Liturgy- Aesthethica ALBUM REVIEW

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On Liturgy's latest album, the interplay and musicianship that made 2009's Renihilation so memorable are magnified with tons of syncopation and detail.
Another great addition to this band's style is their use of swells and crescendos, and it's not in the cliche post-rock way that we're all so used to. This band's dynamics are a result of musicianship and performing as a cohesive unit, not a ton of sound effects throw in during post-production.
Outside of that, the chord progressions of this album are rich and melodic. It's a sweet counterpoint to all of the harsh vocals, guitar chords, and crash cymbals. The moments where tremolo-picked guitars are layered on top of each other only enhance the effect.
There are a few underwhelming moments, and a couple detours, but the album is pretty dang solid! I'm loving the sound, the style, and the songs.
What do you think of this album? Love It? Hate it? Why? What should I review next, eh?
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FAV TRACKS: RETURNER, GENERATION, TRAGIC LAUREL, GLORY BRONZE, HARMONIA

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@dmww262 8 лет назад

This album grabbed me in the first 5 seconds of "Generation."

@Neel-ff4mn 7 лет назад

Daniel Warren Good on you not hating Liturgy. I luv Returner 4 days; it's pure genius.

@MiguelHernandez-ui8cd 9 лет назад

Anthony was so young in this video... The music biz has definitely made him into Oldthony Mantano

@julesmorton 10 лет назад

I can't be the only one who's just noticed The logo for Transcendental black metal is reused from the super smash bros logo... right?

@umcarainteressante 9 лет назад

Exactly what I was going to comment :P

@andreaandrea808 8 лет назад

julesmorton holy fuck lol

@rotkvan 4 года назад

@@tharkanzox1493 I always thought it was Slayer's God hates us all

@Vileinist 13 лет назад

I'm with you on the uplifting, triumphant feeling of the chord progressions. Only a handful of bands can give me that feeling if invigoration and literally take my breath away: Krallice, Castevet, Blut Aus Nord (MV II), Deathspell Omega. Despite the negativity around Hunter and this band, they do have a special and unique sound that I hope they continue to develop. And yes, that drummer is a BEAST!

@shellacSOUP58 10 лет назад

I actually thought this album had a really unique, fascinating sound that I wanted to come back to and continue to dissect. And by the way, LOTS of musicians who have released all kinds of great albums are pretentious windbags. Sometimes it just comes with the territory. It's about the music, in the end.

@roybatty4578 8 лет назад

I couldn't agree with your review more, I got this album like a week ago and have listened to it about ten times already. The people calling this hipster black metal are a bunch of elitists that don't know what the hell they're talking about. This is one of my favorite black metal albums ever, and I've been into said subgenre since 2001 when I stumbled upon a CD copy of Emperor's "In The Nightside Eclipse" at my local record store and splurged five whole dollars on it lol

@alexlapena 8 лет назад

+Hail Krampus You got it a week ago and it's one of your favourite albums ever? lol ok

@roybatty4578 8 лет назад

Alex Lapeña Is it really up to you to question my opinion? Seriously dumbass, explain this to me.

@Neel-ff4mn 7 лет назад

Hail Krampus Well said dude; I was hooked a few seconds into Returner, it's fucking genius.

@D4yO 12 лет назад

One of the best metal albums ever made IMO. I honestly am in awe of the care taken in the making of this. It's almost perfect.

@willwhitman717 9 лет назад

After hearing Anthony's description of the drumming on this album, I had to get it.

@Pretsal 13 лет назад

Don't stop metal reviews. They are by far my favorite reviews that you do. I don't even listen to metal at all, but I wouldn't have listened to Agalloch's Marrow of the Spirit or Sunn's Monoliths if it wasn't for your review, but that shits goddamn exquisite.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@unplugged1994 if i like it a real real real real real real lot. the scores are a personal reflection of my enjoyment, not a grade on a test paper.

@marshmarais 13 лет назад

Stumbled on your Track Review of Liturgy's Mysterium (When you just hit 400 subs in 2009). I thought I would just come here to appreciate how much your delivery of the reviews has improved since 2009. Nothing left to say but thank you and keep up the good work.

@Roisin_catlady 10 лет назад

You're my new hero. Great review!

@PhantomBunny888 13 лет назад

Thank you for showing me these guys. Thank you. Thank you.

@mihajlot331 6 месяцев назад

my god, the discourse in 2011 was so ass that people called this "hipster black metal" as a pejorative.

@LordWorm-n6u 2 месяца назад

This album is complete garbage

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@electriccarpate i was actually thinking of making my next 5 videos metal reviews: ulver, indian, jesu, red fang, krallice, mamaleek, and maybe some master musicians of bukkake (not really metal on that last one, but still).

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@45nothings eh, i'll live.

@EjectedStomach 13 лет назад

Haha I love you man. Every time I'm looking up some random/obscure black metal or noise project or something along those lines, I can always count on my homie Anthony Fantano to randomly pop up in the related videos. It honestly makes me lol sometimes. Keep up the solid work brother.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@JerryJamal54 that's because it is and i'm dyslexic sometimes.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@Creamy360 hahahahaha. i hope you were thinking good thoughts!

@williamscerbo458 11 лет назад

Anthony, this is definitely one of your best reviews.

@twiggylovesyou2 13 лет назад

you are incredibly good at these reviews.

@AmpluexCompressa 10 лет назад

I read the manifesto before I gave any of their songs a listen, and that was a huge problem for me. They promised way more than they could deliver, and their ideas were based off a narrow and erroneous view of what metal is.

@13spite13 10 лет назад

The manifesto attempts to draw a parallel between black metal and the existential movement. Existentialism as a philosophy is very, very, very similar in theme and ideology to what is discussed in black metal (the death of God, anguish, depression, nihilism, subjectivity, and authenticity). Hunter wants to develop an ideology, and merely wants to associate some kind of aesthetic to it, but I think that the ideology counts more in their case... Either way, the emphasis is on aesthetics (the philosophy of art).I don't see the error in his view of metal... He calls Scandinavian bands Hyperborian because they created the 'sound' and overall 'aesthetic' for black metal, and we still use it as a standard to judge and recognize other black metal bands. These guys aren't trying to make a better kind of music; transcendence doesn't exactly mean that here. They just want to break down the conventions, yet keep certain aspects of the traditional ones (set by the Scandinavians) to create a newer ideology and aesthetic.This is exactly what metal did before....... It went against all normative conceptions of what art was, and developed its own identity. Ta-da.

@87LugosiBela 13 лет назад

Thanks For Reviewing This Anthony. I Agree On Almost Everything You Said. Never Heard Of This Band Before And Its Growing On Me. Keep On Doing This.....For Ever.

@squizz222 11 лет назад

"Noooo don't steal our sonic elements! You're not a bitter, misanthropic Norseman with right-wing political leanings, you can't possibly GENUINELY like or understand the bleak and extreme sounds of black metvll!! No, we don't care about image at all! BM is about individuality!"

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@Smurfkiller921 yep, but they make some good muzak.

@SinsOfArcadia 13 лет назад

Damn, wasn't expecting you to review this, even though I did request it. I'm sure others have, as well. Incredible album.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@finalmattasy yeah, i tend to be a lot more subjective. moral nihilism, bro, moral nihilism.

@MikeMac63640 13 лет назад

I love the way you listen to music. And I love your reviews.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@wanabeknut no?

@SinsOfArcadia 13 лет назад

By the way, I agree with you 100% on Glory Bronze. That song is beyond words.

@triplesixmafia 11 лет назад

Man, I love Liturgy. And I love this review. Thank you for doing this.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@goingnowherelikeme yeah, writing it right now

@isaacwyatt3584 10 лет назад

genius album.

@TRIARII117 9 лет назад

definitely a level of musicianship that you rarely hear in metal.

@Imetral0 7 лет назад

lolwut

@leetorry 5 лет назад

You need to listen to more metal

@palbo4 5 лет назад

Why so many dislikes? This album is beautiful

@Unsterblich856 13 лет назад

I've always said they sound a lot like Krallice. >produced by guitarist of Krallice OH WELL GO FIGURE.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@NordKitten if you can't, revisit the album 10 years after the band has broken up. maybe then. :-P

@tommyvi77 13 лет назад

A great record and a great record review. I'm feeling the same way, can't get enough of this album, pure beauty. I saw the band play the "Dudefest" in Germany and was so blown away, especially by the drummer, that I drove a few days later to the show in Munich where I had to spend the night in the red light district in my car - it was so worth it. I'll check out more of your reviews, for sure.

@EErrch 13 лет назад

Brilliant review! this album has turned out to be my favorite black metal release all year! I'd love to see you review This Will Destroy You's Tunnel Blanket, and Jesu's Ascension! Keep up the great work forever!

@TekaDon 13 лет назад

Thanks for the review. It's been a long time since I was into metal but I checked out Liturgy based on this video and have been impressed. I can't stop listening to TrueWill and GloryBronze.

@kmacmuzikmafia27 13 лет назад

And OMG, I was thinking the same thing about "Glory Bronze," it felt so, like, happy. Which is really weird. Usually I'm feeling like punching someone after listening to metal :) Whereas that song made me feel like the chick at the end of that movie "The Descent," when she finds her way out of that nasty cave and sees sunlight for the first time. Of course, all her friends died in there, but you know. She made it.

@finalmattasy 13 лет назад

I read some of your manifesto in response to this band's manifesto. My logical view on it is that, regardless of anyone's meaning (taken away or intended) in regards to anything (music, paintings or paper cups)... there is a single true meaning to any and everything. In the same way that scientific theories are either proven true or false, so is (and will) everyone's theory about anything. As the universe and existence is singular by definition, we are subject to the opinion of "single," God

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@zn3ss sorry, i need to re-inhale and re-think what i said.

@supershiro34 13 лет назад

I can totally dig on the crescendos and the layering of the guitar harmonies and I enjoy the thought put into the music. I just can't get over the vocals!!

@TRIARII117 12 лет назад

i really actually like this band. not so much their views (although, they really are interesting in a way), their style is unique, something that isnt seen especially in metal today. on top of that, they are clearly technically skilled and do have a good grasp of music theory.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@shotgunjoe love this comment

@GoatOfTheWoods 13 лет назад

omg,thank you dude for showing me an amazing band, i'm stunned of how they sound

@JoshCalixto 13 лет назад

@theneedledrop I got the exact same feeling as you about the chord progressions. So great.

@PipkinXIV 13 лет назад

The bigger question is "Who is this writing for?" and I think a fine answer is "anyone interested!" I think setting out to prove something is perhaps a mistake, and maybe one that our bold writer has made! But I don't think the concepts he's really trying to express, the most important being contrast, are entirely incorrect. They're just a bit unscientific, and I think should be approached in that way. If they resonate with you: Great! If not: No bother, they're not meant to be taken wholesale.

@PipkinXIV 13 лет назад

more in common with collaborative, optimistic kinds of music, like playing with other people, versus more introverted and perhaps exclusive kinds of creating, like songs that are contributed by one songwriter. Liturgy's songs are webs of influence and input, and by that nature, I think they are convoluted, and they become difficult to for a spectator to understand and, even harder to describe. So I quite like his pieces of writing. I think they're a gentle insight on how his band interacts.

@HandsOfCinderblock 9 лет назад

Actually the first Litthony Urgytano video I ever saw. Just stumbed upon it.

@alanovski. 9 лет назад

TBH I'm not really big on their stuff; I much prefer Ved Buens Ende.... I don't think it's "groundbreaking" at all because of the tens of bands that did this kind of stuff before: the aforementioned VBE, Dodheimsgard, Fleurety (whose one of the members played with Mayhem live), etc. Anyway, this album was alright for me. I do think it lacks the emotion and passion that many other so-called "noisy, non-musical" BM bands have, though, but still - OK.

@current81 9 лет назад

dibble Word. Scandinavian bands like Ved Buens Ende, Mysticum, Dødheimsgard, Fleurety, Arcturus etc released stuff already in the 90's that was 10 times more groundbreaking for the genre than this hipster crap (which I don't even count as black metal or even related to black metal). In the 2000's we've had bands like Blut Aus Nord, Code, DsO etc to name a few, way before this american hipster wave hit the market, along with their ignorant, clueless fanbase. I wouldn't say the music in itself is "bad", just uninteresting and shallow.

@FLIPPITYFLOOP 13 лет назад

You should review Taake's "Noregs Vaapen". Black metal that's expanding the genre's sound with absolute brilliance. Also check out Old Silver Key's "Tales Of Wanderings". Lots of people are lukewarm about it, but I think it rules. Drudkh + Alcest = "Eargasm"

@Nieosoba 10 лет назад

yep, true the drumer is genius, rest of the band too, great band, great band

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@uphillracer wire- pink flag

@andrewxransom 13 лет назад

Such a full sound on this album. Good words, Anthony.

@401Nero 13 лет назад

@theneedledrop Ulver has a new album? You made my day

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@Polskimg Screw me for making vids @ 3am, shiiiiiiiiiiiii.

@metalmikow 12 лет назад

This album is great. It is mixed very nice and has a lot of variation. To be honest i think most black metal listeners are just biased. If this band wore corpse paint and was from Norway they no longer would be "hipster". I typically stay away from American black metal groups because personally i just feel like they are sometimes posers (from using folky sounding samples & using black metal stereotypes) but c'mon this is good music and i think it is a pretty fresh take on black metal.

@PipkinXIV 13 лет назад

I wanted to make a comment here, finally having listened to this record. As someone who often dislikes self conscious items and convoluted prose, I recognize that many people, when framing their ideas for other people, must rely on analogies, because their ideas exist to convey a feeling they aren't quite able to describe with the words they have available to them. That said, I think this record is very much unlike black metal records. I think this is a ever-shifting kind of record, that has

@TiagoBonamigo 12 лет назад

The assumption that black metal isn't about anything is basically the root of our disagreement. I tend to see black metal, at the very least, as a style that evokes negative feelings, ranging from violent hatred to mild melancholy. Whether those turn to be positive to the listener, well, it's a whole new argument. But still, those guys are saying that their intent is to be positive. And that's what I feel is a strong digression from what black metal represents to most bands and lifelong fans.

@griffinsmith2109 6 лет назад

That intro though

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@PanicPagoda yeah, i derped on that one

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@unplugged1994 dunno what that is. :-(

@sojirokaidoh2 13 лет назад

It is great to hear something that stands out so much from the crowd, they completely lack the solemn atmospheric grimness that I love about black metal. It almost sounds up-beat, which while it is refreshing, it really is only your rather typical BM shit played higher up with a different tone. Like they're doing stuff that, while not necessarily bad, is not nearly as "out there" as they think. Granted, I only listened to five of the tracks.

@aarongtr180 13 лет назад

@renminballer Apparently, most peoples' definition of "metal elitist" on RU-vid is anyone that doesn't think watered-down hipster metal is the best thing to ever happen to music. No thanks. If that's what an elitist is, I'm proud to be one. I'm gonna go listen to Ulver, Enslaved, and Emperor for black metal experimentation.

@enyafreak2007 13 лет назад

The vocals on "Returner" was the only thing that made me believe that Liturgy is a black metal band, their music has more of a loud rock feel than metal, but that's just my opinion. They're pretty good, but I'm looking forward to hearing that new Boris album. If you wrote a manifesto, what would it be about Anthony?

@aarongtr180 13 лет назад

@mightywarriorx Totally agree with you, hipsters should NOT be playing black metal. Black metal has "bad" production for a reason - it actually makes the songs sound better, as in more atmospheric. I can't believe anyone takes these bands seriously, much less buys their stuff.

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@islandmornings hellz yeah

@Purkinje90 12 лет назад

I'll have to check these guys out! Thanks for the review.

@2000Doriyas 12 лет назад

I think it's interesting that bands like taking the black metal style and making something different, I don't understand why people have to shit all over bands like this (even though their "manifesto" is arguably pretentious as hell) and just let variety exist. I love the band Deafheaven as much as I love Ulver, and I'm not ashamed to admit it, I like black metal style with texture from other genres, and I know i'm far from being alone

@finalmattasy 13 лет назад

@theneedledrop ...pt2 (edit) I should probably switch "understand the existence of right and wrong" for "think in terms of right and wrong".. just to help keep the statement's wording agreeable. Taking this line of reasoning to art; I think it becomes increasingly disagreeable that there would be true meaning in the face of personal meaning. Though that is what I contend. In regards to what others consider "moral" views though, I think what I'm saying is quite agreeable.

@jayzee7467 10 лет назад

I am not a music nerd. I don't study a lot of theory, but there are some bands that have it and some don't. I like Om, and hate just about every other "stoner metal" band. I like Neurosis and not Isis. I like Immortal, Gorgoroth and Darkthrone, and WITTR puts me to sleep. So, I will say, these guys sound like music that is written solely for the enjoyment of other musicians. I don't sense any of the emotionality or search for catharsis that moves other bands in a similiar genre that I like. And their manifesto seems to confirm that there is craftsmanship (which is better appreciated by other musicians) but absolutely no sincerity or emotionality. They aren't putting themselves out there, and the result is sterile and uninspired, if technically proficient.

@D34TH30RY 9 лет назад

I totally agree with you and I also believe there is many bands that actually sound way more black metal than this and they still have way better technique. Now, I am a musician, and in my perspective emotion and feeling its what drives music... this guys can be very "eloquent" in the way they try to portrait their musical vision, but for me they lack of honesty and emotion, making their music empty after all.

@Slime-Man-Extreme 8 лет назад

Wtf are you on about mate? Liturgy is purely visceral

@jamieericlowe8190 5 лет назад

I don't agree with you. Suffice to say I am a music nerd, been playing and listening in a bunch of styles all my life and I still think this is garbage 😏 There's nothing to this for real musicians to enjoy. Not really. No complexity, nothing new or innovative, just some power chords and silly little bitch vocals. It's just all obscured with a raw tone so you don't notice how overly-simplified it is. Music can have a raw tone, it's just a different way for it to sound but...quite simply, this is just baaad. Bands like Immortal, Death etc use the raw tones but they actually combine it with some musical ability.

@pbmaster123 13 лет назад

I cringe every time I hear about the whole "transcendental black metal" thing...but I stop thinking about it when I actually listen, cause the music is so damn good

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@quiettheeffort how kind of you!

@Assimilator702 12 лет назад

I agree. Standard Black Metal for the most part leaves me unfulfilled. And one thing I can't stand is a low-fi recording. So bands that can take the genre and infuse elements from other music is refreshing and satisfying for me. If you're NOT from Norway you don't have the right to play standard Black Metal....so that alone leaves only one option....change it up to something new.

@thychaos 12 лет назад

sure, most black metal does feel negative. but we need to look at genres as objectively as possible, otherwise theres no point in having them. theyre supposed to be agreed upon by everybody. black metal usually has a lot of tremolo picking, blast beats, rasped harsh vocals, and there is usually a little more emphasis on atmosphere than, say, death metal or thrash. im sure you already know this, but these are the things we should go by, not feelings. making genres by feeling is too subjective.

@metalnut92 13 лет назад

Any chance of a brief review of the new, free Enslaved EP 'The Sleeping Gods'? I'm a massive fan of Enslaved and I'd be interested to hear what you think of them Anthony.

@Mazeyyyy 13 лет назад

I'm glad you managed to reference the jam of a lifetime in a black metal album review.

@Pansee 13 лет назад

you should do a little hippie festival in your garden - looks really comfy!

@TiagoBonamigo 12 лет назад

Why should people stop discussing this when it is clearly a movement that is rooted not only in the musical side of things? People should give a shit, improve their critique skills. What bothers me is how shallow those arguments end up being.

@goldenrod 13 лет назад

7:21 LETS BE A BLACK METUHL BAND you're fucking awesome

@TekaDon 13 лет назад

They're performing on Friday & Saturday in Wicker Park, Chicago

@Hammersmashed68 13 лет назад

Could you review the new Hate Eternal "Phoenix Amongst the Ashes"? I don't think I've ever seen you do a death metal review, so that would be awesome!

@ukhouseRJ 13 лет назад

lol big fan here I just saw celeb news in your channel funy stuff man jajaajajja

@terrycuyler5659 11 лет назад

Generally speaking I make point it to never bad mouth a band because they must be doing something right if they have fans and are selling albums . With that said I got 3 songs into this album and could listen no further as I found the music to have a disjointed and inharmonious quality . They make St. Anger and LuLu sound good..

@theneedledrop 13 лет назад

@jmanzo2009 just uploaded, bro

@matternicuss 11 лет назад

Agreed. I'm not so much turned off by the band's pretensions (describes a lot of BM artists, actually), but by the music itself. It's certainly unique in sound, but I don't find it 'transcendental' at all. In fact, I can describe a number of other modern BM band's work as such (Blut aus Nord, WitTR, etc).

@Michaelololollll 13 лет назад

You should review Balance and Composure - Seperation next!

@Threecreation 13 лет назад

Great review Anthony. I actually thought this album was really obnoxious/irritating, but whatever. Glad you're liking it more than I am. xD

@shriz 13 лет назад

i honestly wasnt expecting to like liturgy. but i do. very much so.

@finalmattasy 13 лет назад

@theneedle "Moral nihilism" is an oxymoron. It's also non-existant. When translated within the laws of reality it simply becomes, "might makes right." i.e. If someone rapes your girlfriend, it's right for them to do so because they had the ability to do so. It's simply a fact that humanity as a species is aware of the existence of right and wrong. Most thinking that they are right and others are wrong. "Personal right" is illogical because one's "right" affects the realization of another's

@PiEndsWith0 13 лет назад

@danlikesmusicalot Are you kidding? The Trist-like vocals are probably the strongest and most poweful aspect of the whole thing. I agree with TND that the drumming is exceptional but the vocals kill it on a much higher level. :)