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LIV vs. PGA is Ruining Pro Golf 

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The contentious relationship between the PGA and LIV Golf is hurting the sport, says Mike Francesa, and damaging iconic events like The Masters. Will this rift be healed before fans vanish? Plus, the Mets desperately need a win, Malachi Flynn shockingly scores 50, and the Yanks prep for Opening Day.
00:00 Pro golf is at a critical juncture
07:20 NIT Final: Seton Hall v Indiana St.
08:45 Malachi Flynn's 50-point game
11:20 Mets v Tigers
16:20 Yanks home opener v Blue Jays
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@2Thes22
@2Thes22 2 месяца назад
It is delusional to think that golf will go back to the way it was under the PGA umbrella. Both tours can coexist with top players coming together 10-12 times a year.
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 2 месяца назад
There is zero trust from LIV to the crooked PGAT.., who can't be trusted
@NothingToPointOut24
@NothingToPointOut24 2 месяца назад
McElroy going to LIV would probably help out the PGA. Then I wouldn't always have to see him as a favorite every tourney only to see him barely make an impact. All that talent gone from the PGA and he cant even make a dent.
@michaelbirke6050
@michaelbirke6050 2 месяца назад
McElroy going to the LIV will never happen. He IS the PGA.
@jeffreyval9665
@jeffreyval9665 2 месяца назад
They offered him close to a billion dollars and he turned it down. He's not going.
@nicktroiano7738
@nicktroiano7738 2 месяца назад
I don't even know have the players on the pga. It's time they merge just like the AFL & the NFL did back in the day
@scottroberts7463
@scottroberts7463 2 месяца назад
The LIV golfers signed up for fewer tournaments with 3 rounds instead of 4 in a no cut format with some name players like Rahm given contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars. The one solution I see is to make LIV the equivalent of the Champions league in soccer. The top 50 players at the end of the PGA tour season will be eligible to play in 4 to 8 ultra rich tournaments even including some kind of team event. This will enable the tours to merge but with any such merger there will be those out of luck, such as the older LIV golfers who will most likey not be able to compete on the open tour and thus qualify for the LIV bonus tournaments.
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 2 месяца назад
Make 8 elite events in addition to the majors..4 outside the US...and top 30 in LIV and top 50 on PGAT and play these big events at iconic courses.
@springinfialta106
@springinfialta106 2 месяца назад
The real problem for golf is that the greatest don't stay greatest for long, except those robots with no personality like Scheffler. In the "good old days" before golf became a complete science a few individuals with natural ability could rise above and become icons luring in the casual viewer. Now hundreds of hopefuls know exactly how to train,eat, exercise, etc. to perfect their game. Every year a new wave of younger, stronger golfers with no injuries replace slightly older, slightly more injured players. Only the robots who follow their sports psychologist's advice and show no emotion and golf "within themselves" have any staying power. A few purists admire their skill, but the casual viewer is bored. Tiger and Phil were the last icons. They combined skill with emotion and the willingness to try risky shots that wowed the crowd. Spieth could have joined them if his game were more consistent. Dechambeau is a bit of an oddball who is entertaining. But Rahm? Rory? Scheffler? It's more exciting to watch the grass grow on the course.
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 2 месяца назад
Tiger was dominant for 11 years..thats all, but there are actually better players coming on
@andrewsilvia7773
@andrewsilvia7773 2 месяца назад
Where's Mike been, he ok? Waiting for him to talk about the Final 4
@ggkk6474
@ggkk6474 2 месяца назад
LIV is a family event and the kids love it + the best players in the world.......the only thing the PGA has going for them is the Masters and will always be the Masters.
@TOCC50
@TOCC50 2 месяца назад
Mets actually won a game
@moose7454
@moose7454 2 месяца назад
Looking good!
@anthonyclay9694
@anthonyclay9694 2 месяца назад
Bout time!🫤
@waynenewman6481
@waynenewman6481 2 месяца назад
That was extremely bad yesterday...until it wasn't. 😂
@carlosvallejo4926
@carlosvallejo4926 2 месяца назад
Cheers from Canary Islands 👍
@Tyweezy84
@Tyweezy84 2 месяца назад
🔥
@coobay4786
@coobay4786 2 месяца назад
It's the PGAT not the PGA 🙉
@newt0830
@newt0830 2 месяца назад
Mike jinxin UConn big time Back afta dis
@user-ez2wl4ov5p
@user-ez2wl4ov5p 2 месяца назад
rollll tide
@allenantonio4389
@allenantonio4389 2 месяца назад
Liv is sweet..
@kennethmckinney2532
@kennethmckinney2532 2 месяца назад
If you haven't watched LIV you haven't a clue what you're talking about. It's different, fun, competitive and has excellent players at the top and good players throughout. 40 were top 100 when they joined. I attended LIV Greenbrier last summer and it was wonderful and I've been to many PGA Tour events...
@EOSSNJ
@EOSSNJ 2 месяца назад
liv is not fun
@MoMoMyPup10
@MoMoMyPup10 2 месяца назад
That's great, but _what_ are they playing for? Is anyone going to care that Jon Rahm retires as the 'all-time winningest player in LIV tour history'? There's no gravitas to their wins on that tour.
@andrewskratt9552
@andrewskratt9552 2 месяца назад
I TOOK A MASSIVE CRAP ON MY LOCAL GOLF COURSE. WHAT A BORING SPORT
@billnoi
@billnoi 2 месяца назад
LIV is fun. You should watch.
@stevenjohnson5309
@stevenjohnson5309 2 месяца назад
He’d be the 6th person to watch.
@michaeli.5691
@michaeli.5691 2 месяца назад
The LIV guys want their cake and eat it too. You knew what you were doing when you took all that money. Jay Monahan sold out the PGA players and should have never merged with LIV. LIV would have eventually folded as they just have garnered no interest in a new golf league funded by dirty oil money. I enjoy the PGA Tour more seeing guys who have worked hard for years and now can win tournaments and the money and winning actually means something life altering.
@MoMoMyPup10
@MoMoMyPup10 2 месяца назад
That's where the problem lies... there was no end to the litigation LIV was bringing to the PGA Tour, and Monahan saw that, and it was bankrupting them. Or would've. PIF was never going to stop hounding them with the unlimited pockets they have to sue, sue, sue. It's the players that jumped ship for the money that put all of this in motion -- they literally destroyed their own game. What's amazing to me is how many 'fans' have taken the side of the rich guys with the dirty oil money doing the hostile takeover of the best tour on the planet.
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 2 месяца назад
Never watched LIV? Then you should NEVER make any comments about LIV...LIV is a great product. PGAT banned LIV players for life, tried to destroy LIV players, corrupted the OWGR, screwed PIF on investment deal....so don't bash LIV
@MoMoMyPup10
@MoMoMyPup10 2 месяца назад
No, the players on the PGA Tour make up the rules on membership, and the players themselves voted on the rules that prevents the defectors from returning. Then the new people they are working for sued the tour they left for not allowing them back in. It would help if people yapping about this were actually better informed. They shot themselves in the foot.
@frankpalancio8471
@frankpalancio8471 2 месяца назад
I never watch LIV, and the PGA is too watered down.
@MoMoMyPup10
@MoMoMyPup10 2 месяца назад
It wouldn't be if JT, Speith, Fowler, and Rory were up there every week challenging Scottie or whoever else is winning that week. Their fall is a big part of PGA's drop in viewers.
@tyler1480
@tyler1480 2 месяца назад
Fix the audio
@williamtaylor5193
@williamtaylor5193 2 месяца назад
It goes well beyond golf. It's a function of late-stage capitalism, or something like that. The system has gotten pathological. Too much money going to too few. Pro golfers are battling for more, publicly, and they appear utterly tone deaf. Another angle, from the fans perspective, is that golf has always been an escape from the accelerating amount of change and disruption in society. The fact that the disrupters have come for golf is a real turnoff. The only power the average Joe has is to turn off the set.
@jeffreyval9665
@jeffreyval9665 2 месяца назад
With all the talent going to Liv it's still a complete joke and ruined the REAL tour.
@Momus2024
@Momus2024 2 месяца назад
GOLF DOESNT deserve to survive..a bunch of losers who took the cash and couldn't care less about the game so WHY should the public?
@marvinlassegue951
@marvinlassegue951 2 месяца назад
A Tiger comeback story could uplift PGA professional golf sport.
@michaelbirke6050
@michaelbirke6050 2 месяца назад
Tiger is not coming back. Those days are gone.
@marvinlassegue951
@marvinlassegue951 2 месяца назад
@@michaelbirke6050 He has not yet retired. He just resting for his future return.
@michaelbirke6050
@michaelbirke6050 2 месяца назад
@@marvinlassegue951get back to me when he either withdraws from the Masters or doesn’t make the cut.
@papamurphsturf2901
@papamurphsturf2901 2 месяца назад
You guys asked way too much of that guy
@hens13
@hens13 2 месяца назад
Fake sport
@TOCC50
@TOCC50 2 месяца назад
It’s great to play though
@hens13
@hens13 2 месяца назад
@@TOCC50 Is it?
@TOCC50
@TOCC50 2 месяца назад
@@hens13 go out and get some exercise
@hens13
@hens13 2 месяца назад
@@TOCC50 Golfing is the sport to get excercise?
@TOCC50
@TOCC50 2 месяца назад
@@hens13 walking the course
@ortforshort7652
@ortforshort7652 2 месяца назад
The Saudi's have no understanding of the sports that they are taking over. It's not only golf, they've done a similar thing to soccer where they have just extracted a bunch of stars out of Europe and replaced the void with nothing useful. The thing is that the Saudi's are swimming in oil money and are prepared to absorb big losses pretty much forever. The sports are just something that they want to give the tourist parts of their countries a western feel. The point is, the Saudi's don't see a problem. They're getting what they want out of this. Soccer is not failing in Europe. Fans are team and country oriented and losing a bunch of big names isn't killing the product. In golf, the LIV tour will remain as is and is considered a success by the Saudi's. They don't care if the PGA tour fails or not. If the fans and players can't adjust to the new landscape, then the PGA tour will become a shell of what it was. And all of the top players will be forced to go to LIV if they want to make any money presuming the LIV will take them all.
@allenantonio4389
@allenantonio4389 2 месяца назад
BUZZ OFF
@chrissell5002
@chrissell5002 2 месяца назад
Couldn’t disagree more Mike, Let them have their LIV. Who cares about those guys….TAKE A HIKE!!!, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. They are all washed anyway other than Brooks and Rahm. The PGA Tour CAN NOT capitulate to the Saudis. Let them play in their golf shorts, with music playing and beach balls flying around. Sounds like golf to me!!!…..like you said we got enough good guys coming up from the Korn Ferry Tour…..the days of Phil, Tiger and DJ are over with
@midgetworld228
@midgetworld228 2 месяца назад
Bitterness does not solve the issue the numbers don't lie the pga won't exist if this continues; both tours are unwatchable and its not debatable.
@MoMoMyPup10
@MoMoMyPup10 2 месяца назад
@@midgetworld228 it wouldn't be if JT, Speith, Fowler, and Rory were up there every week challenging Scottie or whoever else is winning that week. Their fall is a big part of PGA's drop in viewers.
@Landon.100
@Landon.100 2 месяца назад
LET GOLF DIE. GOOD BYE... YOU WON'T BE MISSED... TOO BAD OTHERS DON'T TAKE THIS VIEW. Walk away and the golfers will find you... My thought will never come to fruition. That's too bad.
@empirestateconstructionllc2336
@empirestateconstructionllc2336 2 месяца назад
Golf will NEVER DIE ITS A GIFT your idea is STUPID LOL
@kennethmckinney2532
@kennethmckinney2532 2 месяца назад
Bye. I'll watch Bryson, Brooks, DJ, Cam, Jon, Niemann etc every time they tee it up...
@craigcrawford6749
@craigcrawford6749 2 месяца назад
It's making pro Golf way better. Liv is exciting, way more interesting personalities. PGA is and always will be boring white toast golf.
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