LIVE COMMENTARY by Hungrybox and EmpLemon on The Never Ever Documentary 

Melee 2020 = Upward Spiral?

My favorite part: “Chess hasn’t had a balance patch in thousands of years”

There will never ever be another Chad like EmpLemon

Everyone just struggling to listen to the start cuz there’s like 3 people talking at once

Not going to lie, Emplemon kind of introduced me into Competitive Melee and Hungrybox.

"When top players from other fighting games respect your play style more than in your own community"

a pro smash player watches a documentary about himself with the guy who made the documentary on a stream we truly live in 20XX

Emp both looks and is dressed like a stock image.

EmpLemon in real life looks nothing like I thought he did.

It is so weird to have two emps talking over each other.

It’s always so trippy to me on the rare occasions when EmpLemon does any kind of facecam because I associate his voice SO much with the Admiral Ackbar Art from the Robot Chicken Cereal bit, with the wrestler body, it’s just how I imagine him when I hear his voice

Two legends, one video.

At first I was thinking "who is this random guy that keeps talking over the video" and then I realized it was the EmpLemon himself

This documentary was outstanding. Some of the greatest work on RU-vid in a while from a single creator.

caught the stream, tbh emp is a blessing to the community.

Emplemon's cold war documentary still gives me chills with how good it is. I never thought he would make another masterpiece about one of my favorite and most niche hobbies.

Uh, Hbox, you grabbed the wrong EmpLemon. That guy isn’t a Mon Calamari wearing a WWE outfit and Joker makeup. I think he’s an imposter. But real talk, both of you are legends and I hope you keep up the good work!! We’re rooting for you!

"chess hasn't had a balance patch in thousands of years"

I legitimately believe I’ve watched this entire documentary more than anyone. It’s been out for a month and I just watched the entire thing for the 10th time. It’s like my favorite movie and you can quote every line before it happens. Can’t describe how brilliant and inspiring this has been for me.

I was floored by EmpLemons Dale Earnhardt documentary, and I’ve prob watched the hungrybox documentary the most despite me having zero interest in melee before watching it. EmpLemon is a phenomenal RU-vidr, I’m glad you got him for this video. He deserves it.

Having EmpLemon talk at the same time as hiself is trippy

The line “You’ll be good but you’ll NEVER be the best” also sticks with me, i am nowhere near saying that it is more impactful to me than Hbox because that was someone PASSING and telling him that, but it is such a strong message that you can always be the best as long as you believe in yourself

go gators

I've watched Comp Melee since Ken's era but never really liked the vocal community. This EmpLemon documentary was really good in pointing out the community's narrow view.

I heard about you from Glink when he mentioned the crab incident in the end of the smelly smash players video, and I didn't really check out your channel and stuff afterwards. But when emp made the never ever video on you, I watched it all the way through. Now, I am trying to main Jigglypuff in smash ultimate and I like to watch your videos regularly. You've come a long way. Thank you for never giving up, Hbox. You're a huge inspiration to me and a lot of other people out there! :D

It's so surreal seeing Emp's voice come out of an actual human being.

disappointed Emp isn't actually a red alien with a single row of teeth

This entire documentary and h-box himself has gotten me into smash. currently recovering from the sleep deprivation caused by playing for a whole week

I'm very grateful for Emp and his documentary. I was a competitive in 2005~2009 Puff-only player in Smash 64 here in Brazil, but, since our country is too big and had very few competitive players, all the competition happened online via Kaillera. I've always had the impression of Melee being too fast for what is human possible to be played on, so I never got interested in Melee on my whole life. The documentary exposed Melee and Hungrybox to me, and I never felt so represented. I've always been a Puff main and in my whole history with smash (skipped melee and brawl but i'm also Puff only on 4/ultimate), i got all the hatred possible by playing puff. Because yeah, i've did camping, i've played super defensively and would only resort to "cheap" things like simple f-throw jump rest. People made fun of me, took some pictures of myself and edited so i looked like shit, and all that kind of bad stuff. In response i've always acted very aggressive towards everyone on the community. I never reached the top like HBox, but it was like watching myself but instead of melee, it was on smash 64. I'm a player that stick to a character or class forever, the same way HBox does with Puff. No surprise that the documentary made me cry. Now I have a much more interests on melee and i'm binge watching videos about Melee and HBox in general. It's so satisfying to know that there is actually champions that stood out against the "sick" players and became a number 1 with a character considered so lame, boring, bad, weak. Like HBox i've became to play Jigglypuff only on a random day that i've discovered how rest worked. Before that i was a Link player, once i've understood how strong Rest actually was, my love for puff was born. Everyone disrespected puff here early on, and winning them all never felt so satisfying.

Maybe there will be a new generation of doc kiddies inspired by this video.

There will never be another smasher who's also a RU-vid Pooper.

"No sea creatures can spark a change in the Melee community by flying" Crab: "Observe"

loved that documentary

I loved your rants HBox! You should make a series called “The SoapBox” where you just rant/make video essays.

Emplemon, one of my favorite youtubers, introduced me to my favorite esports player, Hungrybox, which indirectly led me to picking up that one game that I had struggled so much with in the past, to the point where consistently doing the attacks I wanted was nearly impossible: super smash brothers: Ultimate Thank you, both of you.

7:00 I'm honestly really excited for the future of Emp's channel, especially if he's going to make stuff as deep as that.

The final God still embracing positive and negative feedback of the community that is learning to love who loved them.

EmpLemon is an Amazing Documentarion. The never ever series has introduced me and a lot of other people to amazing peoples that we wouldn't have known or care about if it wasn't for him. I don't care about NASCAR, I Give less of a fuck about it's racers, But somehow He managed to make me a fan of A NASCAR racer, And he introduced me to You and Competitive Melee, Something that I wouldn't care about it otherwise, Hopefully The Never ever series would go on to be one of the greatest Internet series of all time

I absolutely loved the video, it popped in my rec sometime after genesis 7, which was the first melee tournament I watched, and immediately became a hungrybox fan. I don’t play a ton of competitive games, never rly had the patience to be super good, but even without the competitive aspect of it, it’s still so incredible. The drive, dedication, and passion you have is so inspirational, and I know you’ll continue to do well for years to come. Thanks for being so awesome man, keep it up. ✌️

Learned about you & melee in general through this doc, and I'm really glad I did.

“No ads what so ever” ah so you placed the ads on us RU-vid frogs I see

2 legends finally together at last

So glad I caught the stream of you two commentating this, but I’m glad it’s on RU-vid too! 😊

Emplemon would totally talk in a movie theatre. He does it so effortlessly.

This was a real treat. Seeing my favorite youtuber talk more in depth on a sick ass video of one of my favorite players, just great.

Oh my god. I came into this video expecting Hungrybox reviewing Emp Lemon’s video on him and singing his praises. No. Emp Lemon himself, sitting right next to him, and Hbox appreciating his video. I look up to both of these guys, and they are just, getting along. Being friends. It’s enough to bring a tear to my eye. It’s like a dream. I really love this video. Being with these people through some of their worst years, and then seeing them happy and reminiscing. I love wholesome crossovers like this.

Just watched this right after the documentary. Amazing.

Emp is fanboying so hard, Jesus Christ. It's so incredibly wholesome

I found hungrybox through the documentary, I had homework to do so I watched it and I just started watching him*

This is absolutely gorgeous, thanks for this guys. I'm really happy right now

The video was so well researched and made! I already watched it twice and now I'm gonna watch you reaction :)

That Hungrybox is Melee section blew my goddamn mind. That was an amazing analysis and it holds true so well.

That video was honestly amazing and Emp is just such a cool guy for doing this

Fantastic doc. Been casually interested in competitive Melee for about 10 years, but never knew how much Hbox had to go through to become #1 before watching Emp's video. I always respect a legitimate winner and the work that goes into it.

saw part of this on stream but didn't have time to stay. thank you for the video! hbox

I was there for the whole stream, it was fun to watch Hbox! Keep it up.

I didnt even know hungrybox before this documentary and after I watched it, it inspired me to push harder in smash ultimate. Thanks clutchbox ❤

Saw hbox and emp Lemon and had to drop by. Can’t wait to watch it after work

I’ve watched the emp doc I think three times now and it’s great. I used to play smash as a kid with friends and I still like fighting games but I never got into watching them or caring for the players until I started to watch you and m2k years ago. Congratulations on all your victories and defeats. All the negativity isn’t the voice of the community. The real voice of the community is the one that supports everyone in wins and loss because in the end it’s not just a game it’s a community and family that no one should see dead.

I’ve been waiting so long for this and you got the man himself

I got into competitive Smash and watching your streams from this documentary. I'm going to my first regional event later this month. Maybe I'll bust out a drill rest with Puff :) Thanks EmpLemon/Hbox!!!

EmpLemon's documentary was insanely good. Video randomly popped into my feed, usually I ignore stuff like that, but I played Melee casually so I figured I'd give it a watch. Was not disappointed.

This documentary really gave me an amazing view into the melee and scene and Hungrybox himself

Great vid. Also, Emp, thank you for all the amazing content, as always. I can't thank Digibro enough for recommending your channel. The high praise he gave your videos turned out to be entirely warranted, and I can't wait to see what you'll put out next.

Thank both of you boys for getting me into Smash and eSports in general. Much love.

Never Ever is my favorite series on YT right now, these videos are just unreal.

It's so cool to have the commentary for this video.

I've been watching u for a couple of years now, and I was always impressed how you play a so underrated character VS the other S-tiers. I NEVER thought that your playstyle was lame or boring, the way you play was always fun to watch. I always saw u as the Hero in meele, not accepting the standard Tier list and being able to proof that u don't have to play the way all other people play. Much love from Germany, sry for my English XD and stay healthy :)

This vid is what introduced me to melee and is probably why hbox became my favorite player right away

I can't get over how good this series is made, everything is spot on even when you don't have a special interest in a given video theme, you'll end up liking it to an extend

Legendary

It really helps to hear EmpLemons thought process behind how he views the pro scene and making videos. The Never Ever series is one of my favs.

This is my seventh time watching this video, now with the legend itself.

This is actually one of my favorite videos from EmpLemon. He did a great job with it

emps video got me to sub to you. its very cool to see how the man behind the documentary in real time is getting on.

HBox, you are the goat. Never heard a streamer be excited about getting a "whole ass dinner" as a dono, probably the most wholesome thing i've heard in a while

That documentary was the reason I started watching HBox's channel. I am not immune to propaganda

I vaguely knew of Melee competitions befor Emp’s video. Now I’m worried it’ll overtake my studying XD

EMP Lemon. Its a weapon where when its used for cooking, when its cut, it will be activate like an EMP. But in a lemon.

I'm really surprised and satisfied with how EmpLemon's documentary turned out. I hope in depth pieces like these can be more common on RU-vid some day.

I found out about Hungrybox through EmpLemon. Dude had it rough from the get-go. Even though I didn't know about you up till now, I'm cheering you on, my dude. You can always get better and I know you will.

This documentary introduced me to Emp which introduced me to Hungrybox, and being a fan of Both ever since.

HBox talked so much over Emp and also didn't discuss enough with the guy I wish they had whole discussion over the thing together.

I never expected this crossover!

The whole stream is worth checking out on twitch btw

40 minutes of bubble theory poggers

I made and posted this comment on Emplemon’s channel and I’ll post it here also and I’ll subscribe here too “Well I NEVER LIKED SMASH GAMES it has never appealed to me even though I got the game for my son. Even though I’ve been a fighting game gamer for over 20 years and been in circles of smash players. This documentary has opened my eyes, enlightened me, inspired me to give more credit to the smash community. Hbox is indeed all of us he is indeed our hero of the common man over coming the system that’s stacked against us. Well done great job by the creators of this documentary you’ve accomplished to make me a appreciative spectator of smash games. Bravo u got a new subscriber here Hbox I’m not from The smash community but as a avid member from the fighting game community I got the utmost respect of what you were able to accomplish.. Big Respect brother”.

When watching the doc on my own, your story is almost identical to Dale Earnhardt’s, as far as you both not winning the biggest event of your sport for the longest time until you epically did, being hated for being literally the best and having a rival that started off being the best in the world but then you eventually take that title from him. Mang0 is basically Richard Petty lol. But the point I’m trying to make is I literally thought I literally thought you died like Dale did and I was so heartbroken towards the end of the video... but then the video ended and I was so relieved lol. Anyway you’ll always be number Hbox. Thanks for being the Dale Earnhardt of your sport.

People should check out Armada's reaction. He points out where the documentary might have pushed a narrative at the cost of some objectivity

Hey hbox just wanted to let you know that screw all of the haters against you, you are a well deserved champion. Honestly you have inspired me to main and stay consistent with my puff in ultimate keep up and the great work and keep inspiring

There will never ever be another RU-vid series as good as never ever

This video is how i found your channel and im super happy your doing a react

I litterally found Hungry Box and subscribed to him on RU-vid after watching Emperor Lemons video, only like a couple days ago.. Now he's here with hungry box!!!

this is such a fucking gift thank you both so much

warms my heart

34:40 everything wrong with Nintendo and Melees disconnect right here.

This video is how I found hungrybox and most of the competitive scene for smash

Just wanna let you and emp know, y’all are the reason I started playing smash

Just what I was waiting for.

I actually only started watching Melee because of you HBox. I liked the underdog story of the unique Jiggs player who rose to the occasion