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@CourtTV
@CourtTV 4 месяца назад
00:00:00 MA v. Karen Read Day 19 00:14:03 State Witness #51) Kevin O’Hara, Lt Mass State Police 02:24:56 State Witness #52) Maureen Hartnett, Forensic Scientist, Mass State Police Crime Lab 06:01:16 State Witness #53) Ashley Vallier, Forensic Scientist, Mass State Police Crime Lab #CourtTV Catch up on all the facts of the case against #KarenRead, Killer Or Cover-Up #MurderTrial. ⚖👇 MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?
@marcianoyes8743
@marcianoyes8743 3 месяца назад
0:09 0:09 0:09 0:09
@lisaforte1575
@lisaforte1575 4 месяца назад
Why has no one suggested putting a traveling microphone on the prosecutor, Mr. Lally?!
@pennicochrane8886
@pennicochrane8886 4 месяца назад
? You can't hear him?
@lindaeason3480
@lindaeason3480 4 месяца назад
@@pennicochrane8886 Not well
@jovicrazed
@jovicrazed 4 месяца назад
Dude desparately nees a lapel mic. Cannot hear him at all.
@LindaPuopolo
@LindaPuopolo 4 месяца назад
Lally sucks
@Rn.Lisa.W
@Rn.Lisa.W 3 месяца назад
Maybe they don't want him to be heard
@williamfield6285
@williamfield6285 3 месяца назад
Curious as to where Brian Higgins was during the 40 minutes of missing security footage at the sally port. Which just happens to coincide with the arrival of Karen's car
@luvlee1293
@luvlee1293 3 месяца назад
Praying for the O'keefe family, I know this is hard going through this trial.
@pennicochrane8886
@pennicochrane8886 3 месяца назад
Its terrible!! So Distraught and SHE shows nothing When she's outside All of her FANS ARE IN AWE OF HER AND BIG SMILES. HE'S DEAD AND SHE LOVES THAT DISGUSTING ATTENTION
@Gidget_Lynn
@Gidget_Lynn 4 месяца назад
Another day without court for tomorrow? What in the hail is happening here. If I was a juror I would be so annoyed and confused.
@lindaeason3480
@lindaeason3480 4 месяца назад
So much for constitutional speedy trial, right?
@ukgraffitiwalker8846
@ukgraffitiwalker8846 4 месяца назад
Get a life in between?
@jenniferpryor8037
@jenniferpryor8037 3 месяца назад
The jurors must not have jobs because how can they take off so long? Or do they go to work on their days off from court?
@katrinat.3032
@katrinat.3032 3 месяца назад
I think the jurors are probably happy. I mean come on, They’re getting paid nine dollars a day.
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
@@jenniferpryor8037 they can 'take time off' b/c it's the law. it doesn't effect their time off & by law they must still be paid their regular work salary.
@tiesjwan
@tiesjwan 3 месяца назад
Verdict: everyone has a drinking problem.
@ogcatlady
@ogcatlady 3 месяца назад
And needs to learn how to lock their phones so they quit butt dialing
@lolabear3230
@lolabear3230 3 месяца назад
Objection
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk 3 месяца назад
Everyone in that town were driving while drinking.
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto 3 месяца назад
How often do they drink more than 3 drinks? It is ok for an adult to have 2 or 3 beers/wine almost everyday.
@Dove225
@Dove225 3 месяца назад
Your words are not true your accusations are not true. I’ve never drank a day in my life. I grew up seeing what drinking could do to a family so I made the decision to never touch. It never have and never will and I’m sure many people out there think the way that I do.
@DMiller912
@DMiller912 4 месяца назад
So we're supposed to believe a single hair traveled almost 60 miles sitting on the back of the SUV!!! 😂😂
@MaureenODonovan
@MaureenODonovan 4 месяца назад
It's hard to remove a hair in a wet sink sticks like glue. Car was dripping wet in snow. They have not testify who's hair.
@loriduffecy9205
@loriduffecy9205 4 месяца назад
I hope the jury wonders how the hair traveled in the blizzard 🥶
@polybiuschampion7225
@polybiuschampion7225 4 месяца назад
And little plastic pieces also.
@helenhoward362
@helenhoward362 4 месяца назад
Maureen... but they never swabbed the tail light due to a blizzard, and the suv traveled on a flat bed but found a hair and glass on the side of the suv, not embedded...
@MaureenODonovan
@MaureenODonovan 4 месяца назад
Bumper had several inches of snow on top of glass pieces
@josephgrgurich3972
@josephgrgurich3972 3 месяца назад
That is terrible ! You knew that jury would screw this up. She confessed, I did it !I did it ! Also, all that testimony for naught. They need to move the retrial far from the first one. The only thing that makes sense is that community along with court tv, there hosts and all there so- called experts are anti- police. Not a slam dunk, but she is guilty and to me it is clear. This is the difference between a guilty person and proving that guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
@annarose4828
@annarose4828 4 месяца назад
Lally we can't hear you!!!!!! JUDGE PLEASE TELL HIM 2 TALK UP!!!!
@MWe-hr9lh
@MWe-hr9lh 4 месяца назад
She did! 100 times! She was clearly annoyed with him today.
@brandybiscoff9685
@brandybiscoff9685 3 месяца назад
So was the court reporter!!! When he kept talking while she tried to mark exhibits.
@Amontillado72
@Amontillado72 3 месяца назад
No one needs to hear Lallly... his evidence and witnesses are manipulated anyways😂
@andreajoy6135
@andreajoy6135 3 месяца назад
The judge acts like this is so tedious for her. While the prosecutor is showing the victim’s clothing evidence, she is irritated there are too many pictures? Is it so much work for the court reporter to label them? Seems disrespectful and unprofessional.
@kristinruder473
@kristinruder473 3 месяца назад
Exactly! Isn’t that the court reporter’s job? A man died here, deal with it!
@charlenemyers188
@charlenemyers188 3 месяца назад
Michael Proctor and his inappropriate communications to and with others by text has sealed my opinion in favor of Ms. Read. Trooper Proctor should be disciplined. Ms. Read should sue the State.
@josephkain6213
@josephkain6213 4 месяца назад
Technologies tell the sickening tale.
@RoyEGomez
@RoyEGomez 4 месяца назад
The missing video tape at the Canton Police Department really worries me
@kennywoo9012
@kennywoo9012 4 месяца назад
Right. Really shows the level of corruption
@DMiller912
@DMiller912 4 месяца назад
I think it says all we need to know. Way too many coincidences in this trial.
@MaureenODonovan
@MaureenODonovan 4 месяца назад
According to the turtle the wife beater
@MWe-hr9lh
@MWe-hr9lh 4 месяца назад
@@MaureenODonovan who??
@josephkain6213
@josephkain6213 4 месяца назад
​@MWe-hr9lh There is lots of hate for the guy who originally broke this case wide open. Completely delusional McAlbutts defense. Not only does the technology prove a conspiracy it maps it out in great detail.
@1970KID
@1970KID 3 месяца назад
Wouldn’t John O’Keefe have lower body wounds if he’d been knocked over by a car?
@anitafowler622
@anitafowler622 3 месяца назад
Have they suggested he was tying his shoe? I missed that.
@suebdoo5152
@suebdoo5152 3 месяца назад
It’s disturbing watching KR and team laughing and giggling during this trial. Very disrespectful!
@Bunny-ur8fd
@Bunny-ur8fd 3 месяца назад
They are not doing that much. What is disgusting is alllll the lies and stories and evilness these witnesses spew out like they are talking about lunch.
@ItsMeSienna
@ItsMeSienna 2 месяца назад
What because all the witnesses are falling on their arses and debunking all the lies? I'd be smiling too!
@Pete_KPJ
@Pete_KPJ 3 месяца назад
There's no way this jury can get beyond the reasonable doubt milestone
@Amontillado72
@Amontillado72 4 месяца назад
"Tell them the guy never went into the house" Matt McCabe.."Colin was not at the house when John was there" Ally McCabe "Hos long to die in the cold" Jen McCabe ..butt dial after butt dial....and one cute little hair on a car that made it miles and miles without falling down despite of a blizzard. Hos long does it take to turn a tragedy into nationwide comedy? 😂
@pennicochrane8886
@pennicochrane8886 4 месяца назад
Enough with the people in the house and the phones calls! That's old news now! She is so guilty, Defence is now loosing.
@MWe-hr9lh
@MWe-hr9lh 4 месяца назад
@@pennicochrane8886how is a fact of a trial that is on RIGHT NOW old news?? Or is it that you just wish those nasty details would go away? 😢
@mariap4828
@mariap4828 4 месяца назад
@@MWe-hr9lhI think that person above you was referring to the comment above Them. It is certainly current news!
@prisonersdilemma939
@prisonersdilemma939 4 месяца назад
What is your theory on how the hair got there? Did Proctor go the morgue, pluck a hair from a corpse, taking it back to the sally port to stick it in the exact location of the SUV that hit John? Please use critical thinking skills when thinking about what would be required for anyone to plant John’s hair on that SUV. If you do, you’ll know that Read is guilty.
@jenniferpryor8037
@jenniferpryor8037 3 месяца назад
Did DNA confirm that it was John’s hair or just a hair?
@debbiequinn3284
@debbiequinn3284 3 месяца назад
I think she's guilty also more went on that's being said what about the house where it all started and no one went into the gym to investigate it to see what evidence they could get all the marks on looks like a fight or sy I personally think she's guilty just my opinion but did something else go on !
@debbiequinn3284
@debbiequinn3284 3 месяца назад
She's loving this attention I hope they come up with a verdict today this has dragged on to long . Let's get this over
@daniellecomeau2996
@daniellecomeau2996 4 месяца назад
Why don't they get louder speakers for the microphones?
@dianesweat6015
@dianesweat6015 3 месяца назад
I don't know if they got better microphones Aunt Bev would not have anything to complain about she must be going through the change
@daniellecomeau2996
@daniellecomeau2996 3 месяца назад
@dianesweat6015 She is a liability for the state with her exacerbation and irritability. I'm surprised that her colleagues haven't taken her aside and spoke with her about the optics of her behavior. It is unprofessional, at the least.
@mazg47g88
@mazg47g88 4 месяца назад
This case really is messed up, they should be growing wings by now and yet they are still at plan b, very disappointing
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
I think the Defence are really good they are excellent and do not leave any stone unturned.
@mazg47g88
@mazg47g88 3 месяца назад
Some what agree, but that’s there job
@Fido-vm9zi
@Fido-vm9zi 4 месяца назад
If the person hacking & coughing is unnecessary-they should leave the court.
@hoznozhoznoz4261
@hoznozhoznoz4261 4 месяца назад
Lally to with his huffing after objection.
@jenniferlaster5419
@jenniferlaster5419 4 месяца назад
How can anyone in their right mind think Karen Read is innocent? 🤪 She glares at witnesses with her 🦆lips. Just gives off that VERY deceitful vibe! 🤥
@ukgraffitiwalker8846
@ukgraffitiwalker8846 4 месяца назад
TRUE WORDS, I SEE IT TOO. ​@@jenniferlaster5419
@beachgirl468
@beachgirl468 3 месяца назад
@@jenniferlaster5419 She is looking at the witnesses. That's all. It's her trial, she's permitted to look intently at them and she's going to! Defendants are told by their attorneys to look stoic and remain without emotion in the courtroom ~ no faces, no reactions..... they need to remain neutral and unaffected by testimony. Emotions, facial expressions and reactions reflect poorly on the defendant and jurors don't generally like that.
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto 3 месяца назад
Everyone should keep throat lozenges, especially smokers.
@JudySoames
@JudySoames 4 месяца назад
They have to match the Lexus otherwise she wouldn’t be in court
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto 3 месяца назад
State policeman looks alot like Bruce Willis (eyes and mouth) and Mickey Rourke (mouth).
@Slothlife67
@Slothlife67 4 месяца назад
So 13 days later still finding red pieces 🤔 strange that not a single member of the "family " didn't notice debris on their lawn, of course you'd go look if you were LE, the whole pretending lack of interest is suspicious imo. So far CW haven't proved their case in any way let alone BRD.
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 4 месяца назад
so 28 months later still using the same tired & useless arguments. 🤔
@Slothlife67
@Slothlife67 3 месяца назад
@BoxerClover so 20 months later the CW or the witnesses still can't explain numerous "butt dials" between so called witnesses who were asleep/making love. Yeah I often "make love l" 🤦‍♀️ with my phone in my pocket or butt dial onto my bedside table 🤣 I didn't delete my search history, we didn't lose any video, the crime scene was secured, no one had access to evidence, no one knows each other. Ok Chris 👍 🙄
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
@@Slothlife67 so 20 minutes later you're so bothered & triggered u write a short novel & still make no sense.
@Slothlife67
@Slothlife67 3 месяца назад
@@BoxerClover 🤣🤣🤣
@Slothlife67
@Slothlife67 3 месяца назад
@BoxerClover yeah so bothered it took me 20 minutes to bother to read your pish. I'm actually pmsl that when faced with facts the McAlbert/Canton mindless can't even come back with facts! Keep proving my point whilst I enjoy my 🍷 & 🍿
@Colin2324
@Colin2324 3 месяца назад
Did I hear correctly that the search team found the first few pieces of plastic at the same time the car was being impounded 30 miles away ?
@RcPlayer-tt2vw
@RcPlayer-tt2vw 3 месяца назад
So ? The car was at search scene previously
@joditurrisi6004
@joditurrisi6004 3 месяца назад
Was it taillight the found or reflectors?
@Amontillado72
@Amontillado72 3 месяца назад
Proctor provided all evidence ...so state witnesses testify on manipulated evidence or items....
@scottaremillardgmail
@scottaremillardgmail 3 месяца назад
Well I seen where she backed in to a vehicle leaving her driveway. And people who has the means to access her tail light and anybody could’ve taking hair from his dead body in planet it on her vehicle and people can’t see all these people squirming in the chair when Mr. Jackson is questioning them because I sure can
@scottaremillardgmail
@scottaremillardgmail 3 месяца назад
Tell the truth something bad happened at that house his arm was cut and his eyes were swollen closed and vertical is not going to do that to him a SUV in fact that was definitely 💯 blows to the face and had and maybe the dog was involved all they were night marks
@helenhoward362
@helenhoward362 4 месяца назад
Why is tbis judge sustaining these questions...shouldn't she WANT TO KNOW ???
@kennywoo9012
@kennywoo9012 4 месяца назад
Nah that's aunt bev. Good friends of the alberts. She doesn't want certain things coming out unfortunately
@lindaeason3480
@lindaeason3480 4 месяца назад
On the side of the prosecution rather than fair trial for the defendant obviously
@josephkain6213
@josephkain6213 3 месяца назад
Auntie Bev alteady knows silly.
@Whattupp-b7b
@Whattupp-b7b 4 месяца назад
Not only would anyone believe who has common sense would believe that a piece of a tiny hair or even little tiny pieces of glass sitting on the rear glass light 😛 would survive a blizzard driving 60 miles in a blizzard with wind sleet snow while being towed and also while Karen was driving around before they even towed it cmon!!! no way that is definitely a frame up. They must think people are stupid.
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 4 месяца назад
'no way that is definitely a frame up.' glad u finally saw the light! 💡
@stevenprice6957
@stevenprice6957 3 месяца назад
Don’t things stick to ice ? Wasn’t snow covering the bumper after the crime? It’s not rocket science though the state is not great at presenting things well, especially if there’s a few none thinking jurors among them.
@Whattupp-b7b
@Whattupp-b7b 3 месяца назад
@@stevenprice6957 Nice try but it was sitting in the sallyport for a while and they had it either wipe the snow off because there was no snow when the glass was there not buying it for one bit. It wasn’t snowing out when karen read was driving her car around supposedly after she hit him it wasn’t snowing like that in the beginning of the night so there is no excuse it’s just total cover-up.
@Amontillado72
@Amontillado72 3 месяца назад
Correct....the hair was planted...as the rest was...Let Lally try and try.. Jury already got it 😊
@caladan10175
@caladan10175 3 месяца назад
@@Amontillado72 Yup. The hair was planted and the glass was too. And the taillight from her car was somehow acquired and planted too. All within hours of the victim being hit. She just happened to go in reverse for almost 70 feet that night but we all do that for a 3-point turn, don't we? And that magic bullet theory with JFK sounds good too, doesn't it?
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
Defense Trying to put words in the witnesses mouths they are getting desperate
@michellestover2114
@michellestover2114 4 месяца назад
"I don't know when the glass pieces were.. uhh.. uhh.. ended up on the bumper".... wow.. and also, the hair being on the car is not some magic finding. It wasn't even on the bumper/rear area. It was on the side of the car. A car that OJO rode in and had family members he lived with who were also there. The odds of it being there after a huge snow storm and driving several miles, the odds that it was just there rather than someone placed from inside the car where John was that prior night are slim to none.
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 4 месяца назад
spin it however u need 2 help u sleep 2night. 🥱
@michellestover2114
@michellestover2114 3 месяца назад
There was ZERO spinning anything, that was a direct quote from the witness.. and it is also an actual fact that John was in that car along with his niece and nephew who all share a home with him.. to assume a piece of hair survived that drive or would even be out of place to be in, on or around that car is sheer stupidity. You need help 🤡
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
@@michellestover2114 & u need a nose job but u don't hear us complaining.
@Amontillado72
@Amontillado72 3 месяца назад
State has to put each item on the bumper because the bumper boxed and bit John to death. 😂
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
Quit smirking and laughing Karen very rude and disrespectful to the family
@emmitt5443
@emmitt5443 3 месяца назад
Very bad day for Karen and the body language from Karen and her team says they know it That was not a dog attack.
@rickcalderan6476
@rickcalderan6476 3 месяца назад
This judge is ridiculous,,, i can clearly hear everyone from viewing on tablet,,, how can they not hear in a 15 x15 courtroom ,,,, give Lally a microphone if its that much of an issue
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
he has a mic. they all do. & what you're hearing on your device is not necessarily always at the same clarity nor volume as the courtroom.
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
The judge is always worried about extra time then why are they taking so many days off and half days
@dianesweat6015
@dianesweat6015 3 месяца назад
For sure maybe Aunt Bev is giving the prosecution more time to find more evidence I mean that makes as much sense as all this other evidence that's coming up the hair found . I have never watched a trial and I watch a lot that have so many days off
@michellew3441
@michellew3441 3 месяца назад
Her hands were full with other cases but felt a need to be on THIS case. I really don’t like her, I think she’s getting a little better, I wonder if someone is telling her about the comments or she’s reading them herself because she was almost unbearable the first week. There are plenty of judges I have watched and the outcome didn’t go the way I wanted but at the end I thought that was a great and fair judge, I don’t feel that way with this judge, she’s incredibly unlikeable and unfair in my opinion.
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
Haha i agree everyone want to work part time since lockdown. Some judges ie in Chad Daybell case is on ZOOM. Just why is that ? NO NEED AT ALL
@basicallyno1722
@basicallyno1722 3 месяца назад
And then let’s Lally talk about the weather for 10 days straight
@cypresswisteria
@cypresswisteria 3 месяца назад
Why did the tail light plastic fall outward, instead of inward?
@cypresswisteria
@cypresswisteria 3 месяца назад
Hold on, what was the results of the DNA testing of the one strand of hair? I highly doubt that it was John's hair, and if it was how did stay on the car trough the drive home, the search the following morning and tow to the police garage 🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨
@helenhoward362
@helenhoward362 4 месяца назад
This judge is atrocious... I hope that the feds are in this courtroom seeing this omfg
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
the feds are gone gone gone.
@RoyEGomez
@RoyEGomez 4 месяца назад
They talked about a hair on the back of the SUV that traveled 60 mi in a snowstorm on the back of a tow truck and never said it was J.Okeefs.
@helenhoward362
@helenhoward362 4 месяца назад
And that 1 Yair stuck to the suv...also the glass that stayed on the upperside of the bumper
@truthbetold3935
@truthbetold3935 4 месяца назад
You’re talking about freezing conditions here.
@wavylos9029
@wavylos9029 4 месяца назад
I don’t see the defense in the courtroom with that ridiculous bulletin science board with his arm ? During arraignment they showed up with it just to get it on tv and get reactions and views , this sounds like the right time to show the jurors how a dog did that to his arm …. This dog is suppose to me a police / rescue dog and supposedly taken John down while people in the house killed him yet a German shepherd just decided to use its paws and lick him 😅😅 google dog bites in arm and see if you see any significance with what you see on the photos and you mean to tell me the dog only attacked one area ? Dogs will try and bite you else where if they don’t get a grip on you right away , which that would be the case here …. But to a clown 🤡 the sky was purple
@mariap4828
@mariap4828 4 месяца назад
⁠​⁠@@truthbetold3935yes. But blowing gusty wind and it getting stuck to possible ice on the top of the bumper. I’ll even give you that. But guess what? There was no snow in the sallyport! There was no snow on the car or ice on the car or wet on the car. How could you Possibly still think someone’s hair would POSSIBLY still be there on a Vertical surface of a slick painted surface? The answers are …the plastic on the lawn was placed In a small pile. The clear plastic on the bumper was also just placed there and the hair? That’s right the hair was also Not from the scene either.
@MFC7625
@MFC7625 4 месяца назад
KR and O'Keefe were both using the car. Why wouldn't you find O'Keefe's hair on the car? Scratches on the car could have been done anywhere. They didn't find blood.
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
Kevin O’Hara is very smart and accurate
@DOTTIE25
@DOTTIE25 4 месяца назад
They tried to frame Karen and it’s completely obvious
@theevildrjelly4626
@theevildrjelly4626 3 месяца назад
If John was hit by the SUV he would have broken bones and injuries to his legs n torso yet nothing
@theevildrjelly4626
@theevildrjelly4626 3 месяца назад
If John was hit by the SUV he would have broken bones and injuries to his legs n torso yet nothing
@rayhanley4377
@rayhanley4377 4 месяца назад
You can hear Gianetti just fine, Lalley not a chance, even the Judge is telling this guy to speak up. Jesus.
@dianesweat6015
@dianesweat6015 3 месяца назад
Maybe he's talking quiet because he knows all this evidence is stacked up against the state I wouldn't want anybody to hear me trying to get truth out of wise give me a break he looks wore out
@dianesweat6015
@dianesweat6015 3 месяца назад
**truth out of lies*
@JerseytheOG
@JerseytheOG 3 месяца назад
I’m not saying Karen is guilty at all because there’s so many things that point the other way.. However, no emotion at all when they showed Officer O’Keefes sweatshirt.. None whatsoever.. The laughing and giggling she continues to do is a bad look. I pray justice is served to whomever is guilty here
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
This was a few years ago and everyone is different. They were not married and think they had a few problems too. But reactions are different. She is probably just sick of some of the witnesses lying thats her concentration. She listens intensly i notice. Cares about them lying about her. The difference in what they say she said. Some saying she hit him. Some saying she didn't say it.
@JerseytheOG
@JerseytheOG 3 месяца назад
@@user-jq4wb6wo2v , doesn’t matter how long ago it was.. It was a tragedy period! And the laughing and giggling is uncalled for in a courtroom.. And even mocking some of the witnesses on the stand.. Just a bad look all around is all that I am saying!!
@therandomguy1861
@therandomguy1861 3 месяца назад
@@JerseytheOGYou realize she is instructed not to cry during the trial, right?
@SallyJessieRaphael
@SallyJessieRaphael 3 месяца назад
shes spent the last 3 years being framed and accused of doing something she didnt do.. i wouldnt read into that... the framejob by the police is pretty clear
@JerseytheOG
@JerseytheOG 3 месяца назад
@@therandomguy1861 , I am aware.. But being stoic and not crying are two very different things
@christineeaton4985
@christineeaton4985 3 месяца назад
How do they not have a microphone for Lally?
@1970KID
@1970KID 3 месяца назад
Just the lack of care collecting and processing evidence in this case is a massive worry. It’s screaming reasonable doubt!
@michellestover2114
@michellestover2114 4 месяца назад
Seems a bit SUS that everyone has amnesia .. and a big mind blowing moment that NO DNA TESTS WERE DONE AT THE BLOOD FOUND AROUND JOHNS BODY IN THE SNOW... wow. Could have been anyone else in that house as well!
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
'cut myself shaving. think i'll go bleed outside in the snow. best thing 4 it.' can 🐢s not even hear themselves anymore? 😆
@Amontillado72
@Amontillado72 3 месяца назад
I assume state will present blood results later by yet another so called expert . 😂😂 The REAL experts will come with defense team...so we can keep chillin
@joewebster4418
@joewebster4418 4 месяца назад
Not Guilty . Call it a day
@LegendLength
@LegendLength 4 месяца назад
Yep even if she purposely rammed him the police have stuffed this case up beyond repair, they need to be investigated and have their procedures analyzed.
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
Guilty
@AbsurdCats
@AbsurdCats 27 дней назад
3:41:38 this is what my sweatshirt looked like after my dog scratched at it. She was excited and jumped at me but thank god my sweatshirt was dry thick, it never made it to my skin. If this was road rash it would have mangled that fabric into shreds to get to his skin, not make little holes. Very strange evidence.
@martinezlucia101
@martinezlucia101 2 месяца назад
Can’t they just increase the volume or sensitivity of the prosecutor or witness mics? What is so difficult I don’t understand.
@martinezlucia101
@martinezlucia101 2 месяца назад
Did they ever find any other pieces of the broken glass? Other than the pieces on the bumper and the original bottom chunk?
@dr.elysetursi
@dr.elysetursi 4 месяца назад
I wonder what John’s parents think about who did this
@lynneb620
@lynneb620 4 месяца назад
They believe that Karen is guilty !
@MWe-hr9lh
@MWe-hr9lh 4 месяца назад
…and John also took his parents to court for custody of the kids. Not a good or stable relationship with his family. Sadly. 😢
@wavylos9029
@wavylos9029 4 месяца назад
You wonder 😂😂😂😂 you little wondering butterfly 😅😅😅 you can’t possible think they think Karen read did it … they attend cook outs , they helped pay for her legal fees , she even slept @ their house … they are just sitting on the other side of the bench for Tv purposes they don’t believe for a second she killed their son , all they know for a fact is that Karen murdered John that night …. Does that answer your wondering brain 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@pennicochrane8886
@pennicochrane8886 4 месяца назад
Must horrible and sitting rt. Near that thing. Would be hard for so many families! She is so guilty
@kimk8415
@kimk8415 4 месяца назад
They did not take his parents to court he took the kids paternal grandparents to court
@martinezlucia101
@martinezlucia101 2 месяца назад
So when they collected the samples and used one swab it seemed like they could have contaminated each individual area . And why wouldn’t they dna test the blood in the solo cups and all of the samples?
@kellypujue999
@kellypujue999 3 месяца назад
john’s brother looks so conflicted 😐 n confused i hope he gets closure and him n KR can be ok ❤
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
i hope so, too. but that's a pretty big ask.
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto 3 месяца назад
Why doesn't her vehicle damage make this a open and shut case? Do they think someone else drove her vehicle?
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
When she drove out her Tailight was OK they reckon. Defence brought this up earlier i think. Its so intriguing this case. I don't trust the testimony of Police they have already been lying from the difference in their Grand Jury testimony to THIS TESTIMONY
@Truecrimecafe
@Truecrimecafe 3 месяца назад
They have video of how the taillight was damaged after John was deceased
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto
@SorbetthekindUbuyina2ndhandsto 3 месяца назад
@@Truecrimecafeyep when she was backing out of John's garage. Unless that wasn't her in the suv (Higgins?)
@AbsurdCats
@AbsurdCats 27 дней назад
Why don’t the obvious dog attack to the arm make this open and shut? The guy looked he’d been in a fight they said. Even if she backed into him, how would that kill him? Why didn’t anyone see him out there? Why were the injuries inconsistent with the injuries.
@MichelleMybell-pn5us
@MichelleMybell-pn5us 3 месяца назад
I agree. I bet some of the jurors are so annoyed.During the hearings the judge was fed up and said that things needed to speed up and move along yet look at how many days they have half days and days off. Bev seems crabby today.😠 Happy Monday!
@Bunny-ur8fd
@Bunny-ur8fd 3 месяца назад
Lally is the reason it is taking forever. “So, what, if anything did you see or hear when sort of you arrived at the scene?” Then he repeats everything back. If he would stop repeating back what they answer and drop the “what if anything” and “sort of” that would save a lot of time. It would shave at least a day or 2 off of this trial. And his leading questions that he asks so he can get the rehearsed answers he needs is ridiculous. Defense lets it go because they know he has nothing and is so out of his league. At least he has the Judge in his pocket but only because of people above him with power who are pulling the strings.
@Steffanie-n1i
@Steffanie-n1i 3 месяца назад
If you want to support Karen read that is your God given right to do so but a man is dead have some dignity about it this isn't a circus
@shaylynned8786
@shaylynned8786 3 месяца назад
Geezus give him a lapel mike..how annoying listening to this Judge saying, you have to speak up, we cant hear you..
@AshleyMarieMommy
@AshleyMarieMommy 3 месяца назад
Why on earth is she saying Umm between most words. Omg um go um look um at um the um transcript! Lol um
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
golly. maybe- god forbid- she was nervous?
@lindsaybarnes4002
@lindsaybarnes4002 4 месяца назад
I find it hard to believe the hair on her car didn't fly off in the blizzard after she left the scene. Clearly placed there. Omg
@dianesweat6015
@dianesweat6015 3 месяца назад
The hair didn't fall off while traveling to the sally port or the snow melting off of the car didn't affect that hair as Judge Judy would say if it doesn't make sense more likely than not it's not true.
@pauladelrio4235
@pauladelrio4235 3 месяца назад
Possibly could it have stuck since the car was wet with show? Idk so many questions
@wavylos9029
@wavylos9029 3 месяца назад
Defense:Can we agree that my client Karen loves to peck on peckers ? Expert : fair analysis 😂😂😂😂
@newenglandcoast7121
@newenglandcoast7121 4 месяца назад
I wish the viewers could actually hear the attorney's questions.
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 4 месяца назад
judge keeps asking witnesses 2 speak up. when she did so last wk people said she was rude.
@newenglandcoast7121
@newenglandcoast7121 3 месяца назад
@@BoxerClover Right. But it's the attorneys' questions I can't hear.
@martinezlucia101
@martinezlucia101 2 месяца назад
Was the sweatshirt ripped where the lacerations were on his arm?
@lissayers8901
@lissayers8901 3 месяца назад
If this was caused by something under the vehicle, there should have been thread strands still attached to a jagged something??? Right???
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
maybe? but not necessarily.
@IOSALive
@IOSALive 4 месяца назад
COURT TV, This made me so happy! I liked and subscribed!
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
Law and Crime good too.
@yvonnedeboer7535
@yvonnedeboer7535 2 месяца назад
​​@@user-jq4wb6wo2vThe sound here is better!
@ruthaune
@ruthaune 4 месяца назад
Guity
@bb2951
@bb2951 4 месяца назад
Learn to spell
@josephkain6213
@josephkain6213 4 месяца назад
😂
@aslansgirl9014
@aslansgirl9014 3 месяца назад
Bwahahahaha🤣🤣🤣
@hectornegron9155
@hectornegron9155 4 месяца назад
As soon as I heard about that hair that traveled 60 miles without falling off I couldn't wait for Mr. Jackson to take the stage.
@truthbetold3935
@truthbetold3935 4 месяца назад
In freezing conditions? Yeah.
@MaureenODonovan
@MaureenODonovan 4 месяца назад
Try removing a hair from a wet sink. Sticks like glue
@hectornegron9155
@hectornegron9155 4 месяца назад
@@MaureenODonovan I thought it was stuck to Karen's SUV. Didn’t hear anything about a sink.
@JuJu-16
@JuJu-16 4 месяца назад
Stage
@catherinetierney4834
@catherinetierney4834 4 месяца назад
It’s not 60 miles 30 miles and when snow is involved yes things can stick
@Grimey-bp9lz
@Grimey-bp9lz 4 месяца назад
There are always objections by the prosecution and we never hear the legal pretense, improper form/hearsay/etc. What's up wit dat?
@lolabear3230
@lolabear3230 3 месяца назад
It saves time . Its obvious what the objections are .
@sandihulbert5902
@sandihulbert5902 4 месяца назад
So whose signature is it??
@SallyJessieRaphael
@SallyJessieRaphael 3 месяца назад
Trooper Proctor who for some magical reason hasnt been called to testify because hes dirty
@Whattupp-b7b
@Whattupp-b7b 4 месяца назад
Why is auntie Bev asking the prosecutor if he wants to object why is she doing the prosecutors job and helping him that is so wrong!!!
@lindsaybarnes4002
@lindsaybarnes4002 3 месяца назад
Agree 💯 and it was only objected to because he knows it's a mess. The judge should have never made that objection. They'll get it into evidence when they present their case
@lolabear3230
@lolabear3230 3 месяца назад
Because that what happens in a trial when they are putting evidence in they either state objection or no objection it's not a trick question . Some people are so thick 😅😅
@Whattupp-b7b
@Whattupp-b7b 3 месяца назад
@@lolabear3230 You must be talking about how thick your brain is because he did not object she objected for him. That’s the point.
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk 3 месяца назад
The judge parties with the Albert's and friends and goes with them to their vacation home.
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk 3 месяца назад
The judge parties with the Albert's and friends and goes with them to their vacation home.
@angieb2790
@angieb2790 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂2:47:14 was that a friggin snorree 😂😂😂
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
Haha did you hear one of the witnesses breathing really heavily into the mic. The judge should have asked him to keep away from mic when not answering anything
@KayCrisp-lu6qq
@KayCrisp-lu6qq 3 месяца назад
That nick guy don't know what he's talking about blood thickens ìn the cold it also can jell, there is no way the pieces of tail light was planted or glass pieces were planted on his shirts the shoe was not planted it had hard snow over it that had to be broken to find it.GET OVER IT SHE HIT HIM UNTELLING HOW MANY TIMES IN A ANGERY FIT. THE ARM COULD HAVE GOTTEN SCRACHES AS SHE HIT HIM OVER AND OVER . NO A PHONE CAN STAŸ ON BUMPER 😮😮MINE STAYED ÒN FOR 20 MIN. ĜET REAL!!
@helenhoward362
@helenhoward362 4 месяца назад
How is this picture possible for a 27 mile per hour hit with these "scratches " on an arm...1 arm
@lindaeason3480
@lindaeason3480 4 месяца назад
My daughter-in-law just got attacked by a dog and her bites looked just like his. I have pictures. He wasn't drug by the vehicle either, no DNA on the undercarriage or the rear end
@joditurrisi6004
@joditurrisi6004 3 месяца назад
​@@lindaeason3480show us the pictures please
@SandraWood-m7u
@SandraWood-m7u 3 месяца назад
I wonder if any wildlife has been considered for the scratches as he layed on the yard? I see raccoons opossums in my suburban yard in the nighttime
@lindsaybarnes4002
@lindsaybarnes4002 3 месяца назад
The shirt looks like dog bites. Tooth holes
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
@@lindsaybarnes4002 'TOOTH holes.' was the dog a narwhal?
@donnasomma8657
@donnasomma8657 4 месяца назад
I want to see some pictures from the party in the house from that night. Have not shown 1 picture yet. Karen is being Framed.
@truthbetold3935
@truthbetold3935 4 месяца назад
Sure she is. That’s a whole lot of people that must be lying while Karen is apparently the only one telling the truth.
@wavylos9029
@wavylos9029 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂😂 right …. You better start working on a pardon letter in hopes that the orange Jesus gets in office , maybe the filthy rich family can buy a pardon , as a convicted felon I’m sure he can relate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
Guilty
@generousbitcoinbillionaire
@generousbitcoinbillionaire 3 месяца назад
Hopefully defence has some?
@pennicochrane8886
@pennicochrane8886 3 месяца назад
No, You people are being duped!
@sherribudka8104
@sherribudka8104 3 месяца назад
This Judge.......uggghhh
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
There is no way this many people tried to frame Karen it doesn’t make sense Most don’t even know who she was
@jenniferpryor8037
@jenniferpryor8037 3 месяца назад
It doesn’t take that many people. The people that testified today were given evidence to analyze by Proctor.
@caladan10175
@caladan10175 3 месяца назад
Exactly. THAT many people ALL colluded to tell the same story to frame someone they barely knew??? The presence of the glass and broken taillight as the proved she was doing 24 mph in reverse for over 60 feet is super inconvenient to the defense. It is absolutely amazing how many people can be hypnotized to ignore hard facts by a youtube influencer looking for content and fame. Amazing.
@keriissovery9566
@keriissovery9566 3 месяца назад
@@caladan10175I know! I can’t believe how many people think she’s innocent. All it takes is to say it’s corruption to make her innocent. She did some shady things too but it’s all ignored 🙄
@Patricia-kz4rl
@Patricia-kz4rl 3 месяца назад
@@caladan10175 I'm thinking 24 m.p.h. in reverse might be just enough momentum to knock John down & he gets pulled under the car. Maybe Johns' drunk, unsteady, slippery ground. There were two M.E.'S. One said there was no way he died from being backed into by a car. The other M.E. said that, no, he would probably not have died from being backed into. But he WOULD have died from being RUN OVER. If she backed into him & he fell, when she then drove forward she could easily have run over him. The wounds all up his arm were not from the dog, there was no canine DNA found. A few people testified that they were sure that when John and Karen left the bar, they both had a glass in their hand. If John had that glass in his right hand (his right arm was cut up) when he went under the car, it could have gotten broken and cut him. His brother testified that his eyes were hugely swollen. I can only imagine what the undercarriage of a vehicle & a tail pipe could do to a body.. It sure sounds a lot more plausible than the ridiculous story Karen and her lawyer cooked up. And WHY, if he was killed in that house, was he put in the front yard and not the back? John was over 6' & weight 200 plus pounds. It is quite aways from the front door of the Arnolds' house to right next to the road It would take at least two men to carry or drag dead weight at least twenty feet or more. What if a car goes by, or someone is standing at their window looking out. Are these people going to risk being seen? Brian Arnolds' sister-in-law, Jen, was very good friends of Johns. Her daughter & Johns' neice were friends for years. This woman is as guilty as the day is long.
@josephkain6213
@josephkain6213 3 месяца назад
Except for those bogbites and incriminating technology usage by Mcdimbutts
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
Why does Karen always sit down before anyone else
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
royalty always sits before peasants.
@j.taylor3670
@j.taylor3670 3 месяца назад
Trooper Proctor sneering at her "Fall River accent" is more than just hilarious irony given how he speaks....Fall River is mostly Portugese and other ethnic groups OTHER than Irish.. so you have to take that into account. All O'Keefe myriad female friends, all Irish and interconnected had already made Read an outsider, calling her a "babysitter with benefits" etc. There is BIG BIAS UP THERE.
@EldoradoTexas
@EldoradoTexas 3 месяца назад
It appears that the prosecution believes that if they bore the jurors then they appear more convincing. They just might be right.
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
it's not America's Got Talent.
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
I agree i am bored to tears with the voice of the Prosecution. How tiring
@maryharris7985
@maryharris7985 3 месяца назад
No trial again, really
@Brink.9
@Brink.9 4 месяца назад
A polycarbonate tail light housing breaking from impact to a human body? Science would say otherwise.
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
& yet it didn't.
@Amontillado72
@Amontillado72 3 месяца назад
yes, just chill and let's wait on defenses experts
@Brink.9
@Brink.9 3 месяца назад
@@BoxerClover no science has been shown in the trial to prove otherwise tested and proven science of polycarbonate. You can shoot polycarbonate with a 9mm and it makes dents. Polycarbonate is designed to bend, not break, except under specific conditions. You can literally take a sledge hammer to a sheet of polycarbonate and the sledge hammer bounces right off. I don’t know how a plush human body, of a plus 200 pound man, would scientifically be able to crack the polycarbonate. Especially to the degree that it’s entirely missing. So, no, it didn’t. ☺️
@taraann7753
@taraann7753 4 месяца назад
I would fall apart if I had to go into a witness stand and have these Barristers continually throwing questions at me…very interesting to watch though.
@pennicochrane8886
@pennicochrane8886 4 месяца назад
The defence, is loosing as more and more is coming out!
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
You would be ok if you were telling the truth i reckon but it must be nerve racking
@Markelee729
@Markelee729 3 месяца назад
Okay so we do t know if the blood on the solo cups is even blood… cool. Let’s slow clap for these people… If Higgins drove back to the police station why didn’t they go and get proper evidence collection kits….
@dawls07
@dawls07 3 месяца назад
59:20 The photos during the SERT guys testimony when they searched in the evening of the day John died. The first three of the photos look black on bottom and the last white. The last photo, with white sole, the white isn’t bright white compared with the others with black bottom. The first three, the snow appears to be the same around it and the last one the snow on it is different around it too. Packed snow under the shoe on the left near the toe on the last photo. You can even see finger prints of whomever packed the snow. The first three photos show powder snow or smooth snow next to the toe. 1:00:31 The last two photos of the shoe was planted. Look closely!!! And Lally asked witness and this is how the sneaker was discovered, correct. Witness says correct, sir. 🤔
@aemlife7516
@aemlife7516 4 месяца назад
I believe Okeefe was not part of the police group. He appeared untrustworthy, as if he would reveal the bad behavior of their police friendship. And as for Karen, she may be innocent but her relationship with Okeefe was ending. Maybe he was going to pursue someone who was a bit more stable, not a heavy drinker, someone who did not need to be the focus of attention, and she couldn't accept that.
@joditurrisi6004
@joditurrisi6004 3 месяца назад
By all accounts of this trial, seems like the kids were the main focus of Karen's, so I doubt she needed to be the focus, when they had alone time, I am sure she wanted his attention, I know I like attention on date night.
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
Not sure about that. But i think they had a problem with John O. It came out when the officer texting Karen told O'keefe " Are You Coming " ??????? why was he asking that when he was texting Karen that night. She had not spoken to him that night or 9 weeks previous
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
She was already pursuing brian Higgins
@stroudsburg3
@stroudsburg3 3 месяца назад
Yes Margaret that’s exactly what I think. Perhaps you should watch the news once in a while. I also have been watching the entire trial.
@jovicrazed
@jovicrazed 4 месяца назад
Grrr, again the prosecution either isn't speaking into their mic or the mic is not picking them up well. Can barely hear them. If I turn it up so I can hear them, the witness then is extremely loud.
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 4 месяца назад
judge keeps asking witnesses 2 speak up. when she did so last wk people said she was rude.
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
And when they are walking about away from any mics . This is worse from prosecution i can hear all from Defence?
@AlittlebitofMari
@AlittlebitofMari 3 месяца назад
Yall still fighting to save this woman aren't you. Intentionally or not she was drunk and she did it. No one else did. Stop blaming everyone else
@Mack2023
@Mack2023 3 месяца назад
Then why all the hiding and lying? You must know more than what we know so far, do tell?
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
Errrrr that is why there is a court case???? INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN
@user-jq4wb6wo2v
@user-jq4wb6wo2v 3 месяца назад
Glad your not on a Jury
@kristinruder473
@kristinruder473 3 месяца назад
Get better microphones or something! I’m so tired of her complaining about people keeping their voices up. 🙄
@lindamateri7298
@lindamateri7298 3 месяца назад
Maybe the defense are working pro bono
@BoxerClover
@BoxerClover 3 месяца назад
good 1! you're funny.
@DMiller912
@DMiller912 4 месяца назад
Its going to be very interesting to see the defense's experts reconstruct the way the prosecution says she hit JO. It will not match JO injuries.
@truthbetold3935
@truthbetold3935 4 месяца назад
Sure.
@truthbetold3935
@truthbetold3935 4 месяца назад
So much of what the defense lawyers has said came true, right? 😏
@MWe-hr9lh
@MWe-hr9lh 4 месяца назад
@@truthbetold3935right! Every single piece of evidence has been well disputed by them. It’s like anything Lally tries to put out has so many holes, so many questions. And the defense hasn’t even put their witnesses or experts on yet! It’s mind boggling how the defense crushes every witness.
@wavylos9029
@wavylos9029 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂 really , no way !! What defense is going to pay an expert to travel xyz miles and get on the stand and testify as to the opposite of what their argument is ?? Sherlock you can do better 😂😂😂😂
@wavylos9029
@wavylos9029 4 месяца назад
Except the only difference is their expert is not going to be a certified expert and won’t have any degree or certification just years of experience and based on the book that they’ve read no way was Moby dick on Nantucket beach in 1908😅😅😅😅😅
@Rn.Lisa.W
@Rn.Lisa.W 3 месяца назад
Lullaby lally
@kingduran007
@kingduran007 3 месяца назад
Put a microphone at the podium how hard that be
@notbriannaroblox9095
@notbriannaroblox9095 3 месяца назад
They have one. He keeps walking away from it.
@cypresswisteria
@cypresswisteria 3 месяца назад
I started it over, and still no date. Why is the state not asking for the date, of the search, and the arrival time. Where were the pieces of plastic found, in relation to where O'Keefe's body was found?
@Tess-163
@Tess-163 4 месяца назад
Karen read was the only one smiling in court today as usual she’s guilty and she knows it , I don’t think she set out to M John but she did it all the same.
@fernandaacosta2525
@fernandaacosta2525 3 месяца назад
She smiles because she knows this trial is b.s. and will beat it. She is beautiful and innocent.
@sheilarainey218
@sheilarainey218 3 месяца назад
Don't tell is jury and camera man involved now along with the rest off the town 🙈🙄
@raemerritt
@raemerritt 4 месяца назад
Lt. O'Hara 😍😍
@LauraPresentato
@LauraPresentato 3 месяца назад
6:38 Lally saying Jesus Christ while going through his papers
@Rn.Lisa.W
@Rn.Lisa.W 3 месяца назад
I guess no court tomorrow
@fabshelleyg6214
@fabshelleyg6214 3 месяца назад
OMG the poor jurors
@shaylynned8786
@shaylynned8786 3 месяца назад
Whats with this Judge,Yennetti wants to show an exibit, she stumbles over her words, sighs and says, the Jury needs a break..seriuosly..
@plumbermike3937
@plumbermike3937 4 месяца назад
Volume sucks again
@pennicochrane8886
@pennicochrane8886 3 месяца назад
C.T. V keeps going on and on off for days now!!
@pennicochrane8886
@pennicochrane8886 3 месяца назад
C.T. V. Sound keeps going off? Is that happening to others. NJ
@notbriannaroblox9095
@notbriannaroblox9095 3 месяца назад
@@pennicochrane8886not for me but Lally said he keeps walking away from the podium.
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