This trial has decreased my trust in law enforcement in general. I can’t imagine living in the area and being a juror. I’d be worried that they saw me in the courtroom let alone knowing my name for sure.
I don't disagree but I would expect law enforcement would have the resources to find out my info regardless once they had seen me. I'm so surprised there wasn't a change of venue for this.
TB put out a video stating that he watched the bus. He was talking about those jurors that he could identify and wanting information on those he couldn’t. His pink clad mob outside were giving him information on anyone they recognised. That’s disgusting. They wanted to influence the verdict. Imo Karen Read knew about it. She spent over 30 hours talking to TB on the phone. TB has intimidation charges and is appearing in pre trial proceedings right now. He’s already spent 60 days in jail for intimidating witnesses.
Ok. As for Turtle Boy, I looked into that after the trial. And was kinda stunned. He didn’t do anything illegal but they arrested him anyway. And the violence is actually from Alberts and McCabes. I was seriously dumbfounded. It was then that I knew the corruption was beyond real. Several lawyers have gone over TB’s case and all agree
@@riannarodriguez9759 Here is Chris Albert threatening to beat my face up and down the sidewalk for the crime of eating a meal of food at a restaurant next to his mediocre pizza shop. I’m also a witness in a criminal case but he wasn’t charged with witness intimidation. 100% of threats and intimidation have come from the McAlberts and the Commonwealth and I’m sick of the narrative being put out there that I’m the violent one.
Thank you for doing the research and for talking about it. It’s so exhausting listening who just blindly repeat absolute crap they see on twitter without any effort to verify.
@@stevenprice6957who are you? Your all over these videos pushing your Karen is a killer nonsense. Obviously your friends with one of the shit bags in that house or the corrupt cops in the case.
Me too, people are unhinged and people get doxxed and it’s scary regardless of what kind of public person you are - RU-vidr, random guy who went viral, juror
@@Idkokyes no one is trying to find them they dont matter from this point forward a new jury is what matters - no one is going after jurors for a MISTRIAL dude i caaaaaant
My thoughts exactly.. and I noticed when he brother moved so he could see her face. He even commented on it in the interview after the trial. Although I think she deserves a NT I feel so bad for that family so I kinda thought his seat placement was savage but if were my brother and started to question the people he's been surrounding himself with for the last decade they said they've known Jen for like 10 years
So they are not ok but turtle is? Haha. They are witnesses. Once their testimony is over they are definitely allowed. Many witnesses watch the ending ? Fact is Karen is the killer and the rest is a fairy story that sone folk actually believe, even when pointed it is not possible 🥴
Bev should never have allowed the repeated testimony about witness harassment and intimidation. It was not relevant to Karen Read’s guilt or innocence. Now she’s got these jurors terrified.
Auntie Bev did not think that the jurors would contact the defense attorneys. LOL! I imagine the jurors have been reading everything about the Canton police and have decided to come forward.
Its relevant to the extent a judge must act to prevent unlawful intimidation or harassment of jurors where it exists. But it is irrelevant in the main proceedings.
Well, in some cases the public has found jury members with conflicts of interests in the past. But post case jury intimidation is also real. So, I’m undecided.
I don't think he has been forgotten, I think there are a lot of people (like me) who think he was failed by a shoddy investigation from the very start, and now no one will ever know what happened with confidence. It's really shameful that no one cared enough to do things well enough to avoid all the questions and challenges.
@@CityBohoGirlyeah amen the worst part is that this whole case was doomed to fail. Proctor and his goons are trying to prosecute her again and go to court again even though they know they will never convict her because they are trying to buy time hiding evidence and preventing the others from going to court. They were so ecstatic to take Karen to court again despite basically knowing they’ll never ever get a full jury to convict Karen Read. So this whole time John’s girlfriend who tried to save his life and called all night because she was concerned got framed and taken advantage of by those sociopaths. Now the real killers are hiding in plain sight without a single investigation or court request for them. I hope the FBI reveals some data for the others who most likely killed John so he can get justice. I get the Karen is guilty thing at least originally, but the objective evidence said it was impossible for Karen to have killed John. It was not possible according you the laws of physics that she hit him any single way that comes close to fitting the scene. Nobody has been able to produce an example or recreation that shows that Karen hitting John was even remotely possible and I’m not surprised because it was impossible anyways.
@@brynb245 Proctor & Kevin Albert being suspended is just the beginning-FBI has a 20 year investigation on Canton&Stoughton PD- They will indict The Alberts&Proctor with their 3,074 report on Read & Birchmore ‼️
The problem with that is that neither the state nor the Defendant would be entitled to delay a trial merely because federal law enforcement might be investigating some federal crime, and the feds as matter of course in any event arent going to tell you whom they are investigating. Plus the state has to go to trial without unreasonable delay due to the quick and speedy trial rule.
I’m so suspicious about everything with this case. Because of the corruption, my 1st thought was “is this Juror the one Bev chose as the foreperson “? They are using trigger words that align with the strategy of the prosecution.
Exactly my thoughts. Esp referring to “several witnesses expressed fear from harassment against them and their families”. Like a Jen McCabe flying Monkey.
And to think way back to pre-trial, motions in limine, neither side wanted witness intimidation/harassment clming in to the trial and Bev said, "i dont think I agree with either of you..." and just like that it was allowed. Absolute insanity!
The jury note said they were deadlocked on the **counts**, not just one. Karen Read’s lawyer chose not to poll the jury and they were all pretty happy with the mistrial
@@BhubnipzCount two has lesser includeds within it that is where “counts” may come from. Which is why they should have been polled and should have been the judges duty to protect the record in this way. The defence actually were not given a chance to speak up or object or even consent when judge Bev declared the mistrial, in fact she didn’t even show that note to the defence or CW. The defence were under the impression as I’m assuming everyone was that counts did mean all the counts which is why they were more happy with mistrial and any defence would have rathered a mistrial over pushing jurors and causing possible compromise which could result in a guilty conviction rather than hung, it’s what any defence team would do in this situation. Judge Bevs job is to protect the record and avoid these particular issues.
@@KaitlynJaney Right…the defense was happy with the mistrial. So why are you implying that they didn’t want a mistrial or that they weren’t allowed to dispute it? The record is the jury sent a note saying they were deadlocked on the charges, Bev had no reason to poll them.
@@IJamesCordenLoveMyWife Brian & Colin & Higgins brought John to basement.John reported Colin for dealing drugs which led to his arrest-MOTIVE‼️Autopsy shows blunt force trauma, dog bites & hypothermia‼️ Karen's charges are ludicrous ‼️ *Fixed it for ya, Jen Macabre* 🤦♀️
How convenient, the juror was scared by the judges impound order and witness testimony. That testimony should have never been let in. I blame Bev, she choreographed this
@@crippledalien5937 Peaceful protest does not interfere with anything. It becomes problematic where there is incitement but thats Brandenburg and Whitney doctrine - depending upon where we draw the constitutional line.
Yes no one is isn’t and regardless of what the mass media and the McAlberts say the Karen read supporters has are law abiding people and not Krusty panties gang and wouldn’t do any thing to harass the jurors. If a juror feels this way then they should have excused themselves and not be jurors such faint hearted easily intimidated people should not serve as jurors
Sure, jurors should absolutely be safe & feel safe. But when that fear of harassment is the result of having been made aware of the existence of harassment or intimidation charges & knowledge of witness testimony alluding to the same, vs experiencing that harassment, either directly or tangentially via another juror, doesn't carry the same weight. In addition to the fact that the intimidation charges are only charges, not conviction & the witness made allegations of harassment on the stand, & no evidence was provided. The jury does not know for certain that witnesses were being harassed, only that they claim to be. And they don't know that someone actually was intimidating a witness, only that someone was charged w it. Had this juror said they were concerned about harassment after seeing aggressive social media comments or posts directed at the jurors, or said they had seen reporting about TurtleBoy (Aidan) having been arrested (last year) in relation to intimidation charges, I think that would've been different. But they were made aware of the potential for harassment, they were made fearful, by the judge herself. Had she not included that in the first impoundment order or allowed testimony about witness intimidation this juror would not have reason to feel unsafe. Had the juror been made aware of it by any other reason i think this request would be fine. And maybe it still is. But using the unsubstantiated information only made available to them via the judge & trial makes the fear seem a bit less justified.
I feel this claim is legitimate .. nothing would surprise me after all that has transpired. There is no way Karen Read is going to get a fair trial in the same court.
@@estrella5935what’s wrong with that? Their only recourse is to ask the judge to keep the jury names private. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that.
@@lizabeck1221whats wrong with that is that the public has a first amendment right to know, thus triggering strict scrutiny (the order must be narrowly tailored), and the constitutionally required evidentiary standard is clear and convincing evidence - meaning the affidavit needs to point to specific facts and circumstances tending to demonstrate an imminent threat under Brandenburg doctrine. See Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 US 444 (1969) Cf. Whitney v. California, 274 US 357 (1927). See also Counterman v. Colorado last term.
Agreed. Especially in that climate, but any case that they feel concerned about keep their names withheld, I'm thinking Murdaugh if they're concerned about retaliation, although Murdaugh and his peeps visually saw them but maybe doesn't know their name... But probably does small town.
@@Romovictorio Seemed like a very odd way to go to me. If Jackson was so cock sure of himself, why was he almost begging for a mistrial? Did he have no faith in his own abilities? It seemed very odd. I’m wondering what he knew. Inside information from juror #1 perhaps?
The problem with that is that the prosecution lacked reasonable credibillity - should have been a directed not guilty verdict because no reasonable person could believe proctor or the states experts.
I missed that -- was the info from screenshots of convos with jurors "B" and "C"? Or did "A" and J. Doe give direct statement to Jackson and/or Yanetti,?
The Judge created unnecessary chaos and anxiety to everyone involved with her actions, lack of clarity and wording in every aspect of this trial. Evidence, "witnesses ", credentials, motions, timeliness and introduction of personal opinions (ie Turtleboy) that is not relevant to KR guilt or innocence! She created the shitshow IMO🤬
Peter, both sides agreed they didn't want the TB intimidation stuff coming in, and Bev disagreed and said if any witnesses mention it, it is fair game. So, of course, Jen McCabe mentioned witness intimidation.
turtleboy is allowed to have his opinion , hes a reporter , and if it wasnt for him this injustice would go mostly unnoticed and uncovered , no juror has any need to be concerned about turtleboy , Id be more afraid of the other side who hide in the shadows and butt dial each other to hide crimes
It wasn't Turtleboy. It was Yanetti, but it was hugely mischaracterized as to the reason he was near the school. He was meeting with Lucky (defense witness), and going over Lucky's route he took the night/morning. John was murdered. That was their start point, it had nothing to do with the school. He had no reason to know, nor did he know that Courtney Proctor was even an employee there. It was also later in the day and school had already ended for the day.
Aiden hasn’t been convicted of anything having to do with witness intimidation or harassment which is why it NEVER should have been allowed in testimony. This is absolutely ridiculous.
I have a family member that was falsely accused of a crime . It has made me truly wait until all facts come out. It's terrible that anyone can be charged.
Yeah, it was a scene, but let’s be real. The guy was within reach of their shop and whether he provoked them with words or violence his presence would be provoking given all the preceding stuff that has happened
@@BrookeNelson-ok7yc absolutely! If someone was publicly accusing me of crimes and then made a point of always being in my vicinity, I’d be provoked. I’m def not team CW here either, just not a fan of playing it up for the cameras
@@amyfrick1845 these people still have to be held responsible for their actions. You can't say that Aiden provoked them by existing near them. They approached him and called a group of people and two of those adults put hands on him and Chris Albert said he was going to" kick his face in up and down the curb." It's pretty darn evident these people are not in fear of turtle boy at all or they would not all rush to his location and approach him and harras him and attempt to get him to fight them because they don't like what he says. I can see that it would be annoying but it doesn't excuse any of this behavior.
@@CharlieLynne-143 I said that in another post where someone is coming after me. FYI apparently the mcalberts or someone with them is bleach bombing yards. Rita got hit supposedly
Jurors should have the right to anonymity if they so choose in any case. They are not parties to the case and have completed their duty once the trial is over. A KR protester yelled into the crowd that if the jury didnt vote "right" they were gonna have a real problem with them. Absolutely 10000% inappropriate.
thats impossible unless they sit behind a screen and nobody can see them , everyone in the court knows their faces , the press , family , friends and anyone else who wants to be there , those jurors are fully aware all the witnesses know who they are
@@StellaKnights 1) Jurors are not shown on camera and any photography of them is prohibited. 2) Having confirmation vs seeing them in court is completely different. 3) They are asked during jury selection if they know of any of the people in the trial and if they do they are not chosen. I mean just look at some people clamoring away to get their names and they can't, even though the trial was open to the public. Your logic is faulty.
The first amendment establishes a public right to know, so jurors dont have that right as a matter of federal law unless there is clear and convincing evidence showing a case specific need and even then the order must be narrowly taylored in balance with the first amendment right of the public.
This juror is worried about what if’s. They don’t have “personal knowledge” of anything they’re saying. No one has ever been physical either. This is weird.
Truth re Turtle Boy, but I can see jurors being worried! That should never happen! Jurors should be shielded from fallout for performing their civic duty…
Whether the fear be rational or not - who wouldnt be? The whole case constitutes the MA state shit show of 2024, and we can only pray for some resolution of it within the year.
Honestly! Even if you don't buy into the conspiracy completely, the trial proved police misconduct, the deep connection between the Alberts/McCabes and law enforcement, and at the very least the people at the party are shady... OF COURSE you're nervous. Then you get to deliberations and can hear the chaos outside, there's media at the "secret" drop off... And then you see the dumpster fire online surrounding this case?????
@@Mamasaurus-Tex they can come forward to the defense and they will protect their identity. I understand why they would want their identity known though.
The problem is that now that people can watch trials live, everyone is being held accountable and they are not liking it. It truly flushes out the bad apples! 🍎
I agree with your concept. However, I think it is not the “problem” - it’s the “change” - meaning taping trials, which is a good thing to help root out corruption, and our legal system needs to change for the better. It may be a bit messy and uncomfortable to get to the change. 😊🧡🙏
@@teresaperry7928 well said, televising trials brings the light to the darkness, where the evil ones cannot hide. It paves the way for positive change 💕
Please Look at the TB arrest on intimidation charges...It will enlighten you to everything that is wrong in this trial! Especially how they went about it and exactly what they say during arrest!
It bothers me that the police people involved have access to who these people are. Friends, colleagues, etc. If even 1 poor soul gets scared by intimidation, this is blasphemy to our entire justice system.
@@stellaallbright4750 I did watch the trial and I'm not talking about turtle boy. I think he did his job and he did it well. Some may not like his methods but it is within his rights as a journalist to ask questions. I am talking about the other side. You can't tell me that all these people are not intertwined you absolutely cannot tell me that. Something stinks here. Just saying...
So she finds this juror’s affidavit establishes good cause. What about the juror who contacted Alan Jackson and said they voted not guilt on murder charge?
"Can't we all just get along?" Unfortunately, no, we can't. When there are people who simply refuse to even listen to or consider another side, another opinion, it makes conversation impossible. One cannot "get along" with someone who refuses to "get along" with them.
The only important question is why is Karen Read not exonerated on the most serious charge? She was deemed innocent by 12 jurors and nothing else should matter. If that’s happening, then this system needs reform and this judge should be held accountable for creating unnecessary drama. It should be illegal for the judge to ignore the findings of the jury. Injustice.
Bev's fault for allowing testimony of 'intimidation' that had nothing to do with Reed, or the CW. The only people going after the jurors are media companies holding checks.
I know it's not cool to criticize jurors, but I do find it weird that the verdict forms for Count 1 & 3 was not filled out. WHY on earth would they hand it in blank??? It's crazy. These were all SEPARATE counts!!! I also strongly blame the Judge. Her instructions were clear as mud. Also, the jurors should have had the verdict forms in front of them when she gave instructions. They should have been allowed to ask questions before deliberation.
The jurors likely felt extremely intimidated by Brian Albert being allowed to sit in the courtroom during closing arguments & deliberation, and that should NOT have been allowed by Bev!! The fact that jurors could HEAR the chaos going on from the protestors outside the courthouse DURING their deliberations is also ALARMING!!
Thank you Peter for continuing to discuss this case with all of us! 💞 Each new document makes my head spin even more than the last. I hope that everyone is having a wonderful week. 💗
The ONLY difference is ONE side gets arrested for witnesses "intimidation" for just saying their getting intimidated even if their not AND the other side is getting terribly intimidated and it's totally allowed and somehow validated. It just shows how corrupt this all is.
@@crippledalien5937okay well then how did they fuck up all of the information and miss so much evidence over what they felt “happened” before Karen Read was ever a suspect, and it was proven by absolute fact that Karen Read could not have hit John unless it was a sideswipe and basically that is so impossible based on all of the other scene that we couldn’t even start to consider that before a slip and fall situation. We also have guaranteed dog bite marks and Chloe was gone that morning. We have “how long to die in snow” that should been an arrest and court case right away, especially once it was proven the glitch issue does not occur on the iOS version she was on. Then we have both Bryan’s got rid of their phones the day before the mandatory evidence protective order went down. Even under the most generous calculations, the odds that they did that randomly is like 0.0027 based on what they said. So this whole trial we had a made up imaginary scenario made by a scam “reconstructionist” without literally any reconstruction of the scene, any proven repeat of events either in a model or real life, and literally not ever showing even one possible way it could have happened that was remotely possible. The physics and biomechanics experts proved without a doubt that Karen could not have ever hit John, and that the light did not match anything at the scene that could have cause the damage. The prosecution themselves proved without a single doubt that Karen came and dropped off John, and then could have never came back until that morning. The snow plow driver said he didn’t see anyone there after Karen left. At the end of the day they have to prove that Karen did it and that there is absolutely no way that Karen might not have done it. Here we have evidence that there is absolutely NO POSSIBLE WAY she could have hit him and therefore ever caused his death. This is an undeniable fact and the numbers and physics were not even close. As the guy said it isn’t even close to being possible in ANY scenario you could imagine. Keep in mind to convict fairly and honestly you have to prove Karen is guilty without a SINGLE TINY DOUBT. You have to prove there isn’t a possibility that Karen didn’t commit the crime. If you somehow came out of that case and thought Karen should be found guilty or even close to found guilty even on preponderance, then you are either completely retarded, a troll, or someone with malicious intent. There is NO debate that can honestly argue Karen should be found guilty under the terms outlined in the law. The unbiased third party expert witnesses had absolutely nobody of equal intelligence or knowledge that could argue against them, and there wasn’t a single possible timeline/explanation given by the prosecution that has Karen killing John. All the prosecution did was prove that she was innocent if she didn’t hit him with a car. So now let’s look at all of the ONE SIDED failures to collect evidence, research potential criminals, and the planting of unexplained for evidence. There is no explanation for those actions except for criminal and intentional abuse of the investigation. We know for a fact that someone was planting evidence, and from the actions of different people we know at the very least they were attempting to hide or ignore what should have been the most primary suspects (everyone in that house). We also know that in effect that Karen Read was being framed based on the fraudulent evidence. So basically we need more investigation before a full understanding could even be found, but we do know there was either an individual or organized conspiracy going on. How many people directly acted, passively acted, or happened to just turn a blind eye by accident we just don’t know yet. What we do know is proctor is trying so hard to pretend like he’s a fanatic against Karen Read that way when he’s arrested and charged he can claim it was just negligence OR that it was “narrow sightedness”. I imagine it would be much much worse for the conspirators if they prove they intentionally tried to hide the real criminals and if they then purposefully framed Karen Read. I want to say the prosecution just seems absolutely psycho on a witch hunt but they know they can’t ever get a conviction with the expert witnesses proving Karen could not have killed John. So it is most likely that they are pushing for another case because it continues their narrative now (and in the future if the FBI catches their crimes) and it also continues to delay what would be any investigation and legal actions taken upon the most likely REAL killers that took John’s life: Likely someone who was at the residence that night.
Well that's why you need a good Judge. It's like two children having an argument you need a good parent who knows what thier doing to bring the two children a fair result.
If the jury had indicated reaching unanimous agreement on counts 1 & 3, but NOT disclosing which way they voted, wouldn't this have been better for everyone (esp the jurors)?
Not wrong. This trial has decreased my trust in law enforcement in general. I can’t imagine living in the area and being a juror. I’d be worried that they saw me in the courtroom let alone knowing my name for sure. 25:18
This is a nightmare -- very unfair for any Juror to to have to hire an attorney (out of their own pocket) after doing the Public Duty as a Juror. I sincerely HOPE this case will not be retried. I can't imagine finding ANYONE in MA who is not familiar with the case, not to mention the disaster it has turned out to be.
Yeah i def think at least one or two people will lie and say they know nothing about the trial to get on the jury when in fact they will already have their vote decided before the trial starts. It seems so easy to lie if you care enough about getting someone off or putting them in jail.
@@MGHArizona Brian & Colin Albert & Jen Mcabre sat in front of jury for closing arguments to intimidate them‼️ Judge Aunt Bev should not have allowed that‼️ Outrageous ‼️
Also, it should be noted that Turtleboy has ZERO harassment prevention orders against him prior to these witness intimidation orders that was part of a bigger picture. 2 of those same people were already DENIED protection orders. CA & JM . Just saying 🤷♀️
Id be afraid if I was on that jury , its clear some of these people involved will stop at nothing to distort the truth, police , mcalberts , troopers , they have good reason to be afraid
I've watched Turtleboy's hearings as well as what he did, as he recorded every step of what he did. NOTHING he did was illegal!! His charges are a joke, should be tossed out, but it's a very messed up situation with some very crooked people!! This is another example Morrissey's crap! He literally asked questions! Literally & they've used some ridiculous law in the books & morphed the wording to get this done but it isn't right. Nothing was intimidation but they're using hurt feelings as an example of initmidating witnesses. He never once mentioned how someone should testify other than to maybe say they should tell the truth. And that's not illegal. Simplest way to see some of what he's been thru is the watch Aussie Insiders vids in the subject. Microdots had done a recreation of his arrest (incidentally by the fugitive task force led by Tully!!). Almost comical were it not creating this crap!! It's all very, very sad!! The person posing they cited in this filing is a terrible anti Karen Read person. One of the claims Jen McCabe spouted as evidence of being harassed was him blogging about her!! LOL!! Do you know how many times she filed for an RO & was denied? A bunch! So, she finally exaggerated & outright led about what TB was doing & she considered it harassment. Funnily, when TB was asking then questions & they cited it as harassment, Matt McCabe put his hands on TB, NOT the other way around. They've fabricated the majority of the allegations AND in the end, Morrissey is the deciding factor as to going after TB. Again, the FUGITIVE TASK FORCE act to his home to stay him and confiscate all his electronics, which they all have, & guess what was on those electronics!!! It's a mess but it's also another example of crooked policing in that area of MA.
I live across the country and deeply passionate about this case and thought about this exact problem! Jury being afraid, I can see why. 😬 maybe if they retry they can move it somewhere else 🤷🏻♀️
@mandystrong8196 -- ABSOLUTELY NOT. This country and this case need MORE transparency, not less. You don't cover the rot and quietly wish it goes away, you tear off the bandage and exposure to oxygen and SUNLIGHT!!
@@mandystrong8196As a general rule, you dont try to ban court TV. They have the lawyers and the federal civil litigation experience that state judges dont want to mess with if they ever hope for an appellate appointment.
??? Can a juror actually say they are afraid, without saying why? Without saying who threatened them? Are they afraid of the McAlberts, or the police? They should say so, so that we can put a stop to it!
@@JimmyN80where in the world did you hear that? That isn’t what was said during this video. They said they were afraid of intimidation from ALL sides. Never once mentioned the McAlberts or McCabes being in the courtroom.
Turtle boy only said the head floor person use to be a cop and is now a dr assistant. Turtle boy said that juror told a patient or friend that he was voting guilty for charge 2 but that the all 12 had found her innocent on charges 1 and 3. Turtle boy implied nothing bad or threatening. He was simply stating the facts without emotion.
Exactly and he didn’t even track the person down- 2 people sent the information to him because he constantly is talking about it at work according to his coworkers.
Part of the re-watch crew here. I'm not in Florida, but would be very interested in your coverage on the Ashley Benefield case, should you decide to cover it. Thanks!
It is VERY strange that the atty, who authored the juror’s motion, is crediting social media sources that replay and summarize TB’s alleged content (rather than the content IN CONTEXT itself). Disconcerting… to say the least.
@@Harlem55 I haven’t watched the pre trial motions. I know the bare minimum about the case but it sounds very interesting from what I do know so far. I want to try & remain unbiased as possible.
Sadly, i think this juror is right; There's legitimate reason to be concerned. This is the second (actually, i think maybe the third) time recently we've seen jurors have to hire their own lawyers. I would not want to ever be in their shoes. Im sure these things will come to mind when called to jury duty. There just has to be ways to improve the jurors' experiences....during AND after trials. They did their duty and must be protected.
