As a turntablist I'm actually blown away with how good this sounds. I've heard a lot of attempts to recreate scratching in DAWs over the years but this is the best yet. Nice work.
Its super accurate on some of the cuts one the bars was very reminiscent of prime cuts scratching...but I will say producers should hit up scratch djs if they want cuts collaboration is better than anything
@@djdeemz7651 That's very flattering about the likeness to Prime Cuts! I haven't heard anything from Scratch Perverts in ages but seen them lots of times over the years. Prime Cuts and Tony Vegas are two of my all-time favourites (JFB and DJ Woody are up there too!). I completely agree about the using the real thing if you can too, btw. No device can ever replace a real turntablist (for many reasons!) and you should definitely hire a real person to do this if you're able to. :)
I'm an all around dj. I do all realms including turntablism. I'm about to get into it, very excited. I will be back after I master this and put it in some tracks on an EP I'm working on
@@basedmod2139 It most likely is inferior to Fruity Scratcher, I agree! There are VSTs that do the same and are probably much better too. I'm one guy on his own though, and do this in my spare time for fun and give the stuff I've made away for free. FL are a big company with a team of developers. If FL Studio devices worked in Ableton, I'm sure people would be using FL Scratch instead. There are no free MaxforLive that do this for Ableton Live users though, as far as I know. This is why I made it.
Was walking down the street today thinking about how to achieve something like this in ableton, and low and behold, this video pops up in my feed. Wonderful work, can’t wait to give it a try!
@@awedee.0 Yeah, I think I know the one you mean. The Tom Cosm video, I'm guessing? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kX0gMfRF6XY.html - It's really good and sounds amazing too. The only limitation being you can't play the sample forwards AND backwards. The pitched delay effect sounds brilliant though. Really convincing, especially for vocal samples.
Have looked for a good version of something like this so many times and never found something suitable. From the video, this looks perfect. Can’t wait to try it! Thank you! 🤘
my personal niche in music is combining EDM with old-school hip hop, so this is an absolute godsend for me. works like a dream, too. thank you so much for making this!
THIS IS AWESOME! Thank you so much for sharing this! Even the article and your notes in the manual about automation curves are really useful knowledge. I want to learn to scratch to add it to my projects, but until then this is the best sounding way to do it i've seen in 2024 (and I've tried HEAPS of different methods/tutorials!).
I've tried to achieve this in many different ways over the years with varied results but this is just the best. So good. Especially as an instrument. thanks x 1000.
Hi, I was lucky enough to own and use 1210's since about 30 years ago. To my ears, I'm convinced...... this sounds very close to the real thing. Well done, brilliant job!
Cheers! It does seem to sound quite close at certain speeds. Very slow or fast speeds is where you'd notice the difference though. It doesn't behave well at all when playing at these speeds, unfortunately.
Amazing device! Been trying replicate this with multiple different plugins and techniques over the years but not been able to get anything this easy to use & give as good a result 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Andrew, I admire the amount of thought and care you put into this Scratcher - I've seen various over the years, but you really distinguish yourself beyond the basic "back-and-forth" with the exploration into the scratch notation, nuanced controls, and more... even the Humanize knob! Just bought it! 💽 (Gosh darn there's no vinyl record emoji, so I'll leave it at that.)
CMD (or CTRL on Windows) + SHIFT + M to go into MIDI Mode in Ableton Live, click the slider underneath the waveform display then move the dial on your hardware device. The turntable control should then be mapped to your controller. :)
Man, that's a very cool device, kudos. But why when I reload the project I get everything in LOCK? Will it still not work when loading the live set? and even if I map it to a third-party LFO, it still stops working over time. Macbook Pro M1pro
Yeah, the 'Lock' button settings aren't saved with the project, so you would need to manually disable this again if you need the Lock button off when you load your project again. All the Lock button does though is sync the LFO start/stop with Live's transport / Play button. Turning it off just lets the LFO run freely, regardless of whether your project is playing or not. Saying this though, I'm not sure I fully understand the issue you're having. If you'd like to contact me by email (mail@andrewnorris.uk) with some more details, I'll do what I can to help! :)
I'd love to see some turntableist fiddle with this and see what crazy patches they come up with and if it might inspire them for things to try out in real
@@CypiXmusic Ah, nice, thank you! Yeah, my knowledge of the technical aspects of scratching only goes so far and I'm sure there's much more you can do with it with the right skills. :)
Really nice that you can use any sample, In the past you would need dvs + phase or a control vinyl then perform everything, record, then chop it all together. This is much more streamlined right in the daw. Great work
You can use your own sample, yep. There are limitations with the device though which you wouldn’t get with DVS when it comes to sample length. It’ll only really work with very short samples. You just don’t get any kind of fine control with samples longer than about a second. I’m hoping to improve this though. :)
Sick dude. Bought it about halfway through this video. enjoy your coffee. As for future suggestions - being able to read the movement off a DVS vinyl (ie. serato/traktor tone), and mapping to a crossfader so I can scratch directly into ableton. I still want to do my own scratches, but it would be nice to be able to tidy them up a bit if I don't quite get it. the back and forth of recording a bunch of scratches, transferring them to my daw and chopping out the good bits is okay, but it sucks if I didn't quite get it right.
Thank you! Yep, being able to control the playhead with DVS, Phase or a jog wheel is something I'd really like to include at some point. It's a hell of a task though as this isn't nearly as simple as standard MIDI mapping to a slider, dial, etc. It's something I'm looking into though as this has been requested quite a bit. :)
Thank you! It's unlikely, tbh, as it would require a completely different way of handling the audio and the device would pretty much need to be built again from the ground up to do this. As it stands, it only really works with very short (1 second) clips. Excellent idea though!
Super cool! Chuck Sutton made a plugin where you can use the track pad to edit parameters, I might fiddle with this to combine that with this to use the track pad as a turndeck
this is great and im really apprecaite your work. unfortunately turntable doesnt show as an option in the clip envelope. cant work it out at all. the only option is curve
It sounds like you're in Arrangement View and are trying to edit automation from the clip at the bottom of the screen. You need to instead edit automation from the clip in the arrangement itself, not the clip at the bottom of the screen (as this is for editing Modulation, not Automation - except for Curve, Modulation features are not enabled on this device). To edit, just press 'A' to open your automation lane and you should now see 'Turntable' and the rest of the parameters shown in the drop-down menu: drive.google.com/file/d/1-ZydJ62W9u34S-qErwCf39lAqjaY3YBl/view?usp=share_link
Such a cool device. I’m struggling to find out how you got the envelope to show turntable. How do you get the turntable on the envelopes? Mine only sees the Curve. I’m in the latest version of Live 12 Suite.
When you edit a MIDI clip, you should see 'Turntable' listed in the device's parameters. It's here on Live 12: drive.google.com/file/d/1_VDxeXwA-jfCqFRr7OYgQ1QramVUtiJt/view?usp=share_link Feel free to email me: mail@andrewnorris.uk if you're still having trouble :)
This is awesome! something that has been needed for a long time. bought it right away. I am still using ableton 11 unfortunately and i am unable to open the ALP, it says i need to be using ableton 12. Is there a way you could upload the midi clips separately so that we can download them?
Thank you! Yeah, sorry about the example set only working in Live 12. If you email me (mail@andrewnorris.uk), I'll gladly send you the MIDI clips. However, as far as I know, it's not possible to export MIDI clips and keep their automation values. It's just MIDI note values it exports, so you'd only have the notes and not the automation (which you kind of need).
@@AndrewNorrisMusicTech no worries at all! That would be wonderful. And of course, I understand the automation is necessary but it just makes it easier to not have to worry about zooming in and out of the grid and clicking around the piano roll to get midi notes in. I feel it would just keep thing moving along quicker :) On a side note I wonder if you do have live 11 and open the project in live 11 if you would be able to upload an ableton 11 version as well? That way other people may be able to open it in both Thanks again for making this, it’s awesome! Excited to get better with it
@@SopphireSounds Yeah, I really should have done this from the start when I had Live 11 installed. I'll look at making a Live 11 set though for the next update (I can't get the Live 12 project to open in Live 11 though, unfortunately). I've just been put off doing it as it means reinstalling Live 11 and making the whole project again from scratch! :)
This is great, and as others have said is something that I've thought *should* be possible previously. Just as an FYI, I'm not sure I'd agree on some of the names you've given to the clips you've created, eg the chirp is actually what you go on to demonstrate the creation process of at the 4 minute or so mark, (open fader as you push the record forward, close as you come to the end of the motion, then open again as you pull the record back, close again at the end) but they are all sounding good!
Cheers! Yeah, I was wondering if I'd got some of the definitions exactly right or not. I'm in the process of making a more thorough example project so I'll update the clip names accordingly as I'm doing it. Thanks for the heads-up! :)
Looking forward to a Juced Windows vst3 version of your sounmagic suite! (It blows me away that so many developers reinvent the wheel, while you open up new horizons--and no one even copies you!) Thanks!
@@AndrewNorrisMusicTech Hh you’re right. Your scratcher is cool too! If it could do live input (or, less cool but maybe still useful, an auto synced and/or manual trigger) buffer refill, that’d be great!
Unfortunately not, no. For now you can only map it to a standard MIDI controller. It would be great to have it controlled by DVS though and this is something I'd love to add in the future. It's a way off yet though...
Purely coincidental, I promise you! I did see Sam's video last night though (great to see him back!) and thought how remarkably similar it was to what I've just done. Love your devices, btw. I use BiP a lot. :)
Great plugin. If you allow me to make an observation, in Arrangement view, you cannot create an envelope for the last touched parameter within the MIDI clip; it only works with automation.
Yes, automation of the device in Arrangement View must be done in the automation lanes on the main arrangement itself, not in the clip. This is because clip envelope editing in Arrangement View handles Modulation, not Automation. The devices's parameters are not enabled for Modulation control. See: help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209070629-Working-with-Automation-and-Modulation
Kind of. :) By default it’s just on/off. You can turn on the Velocity button though and it’ll respond to note velocity. So there’s no control for it on the device itself but you can emulate a crossfader curve by controlling volume with velocity in the MIDI clip. It’s very much a workaround though!
@@horsesaysquack The device has been updated a little since I made the video. To load custom samples, you now need to drag/drop directly over one of the four ‘User’ slots. Be sure to use .wav / .aif and to drop in one sample at a time.
Yeah, you shouldn't really need to zoom. The sample should fill the window. How long is the sample you're using? The device only really works with small samples (1-2 seconds long). Anything longer and it'll sound terrible! If you're using smaller samples and it's still not displaying properly, please email me a screen grab and the sample you're trying to load (mail@andrewnorris.uk).
@@zeridium9129 Yeah, in that case, you should see the whole sample in the window (without it being squashed up and needing to zoom). Again though, if you're still getting this, just email me and I'll try to fix this for you. :)
Honestly this is the best scratch plugin, I have always been looking for one and I finally found it I would like more videos on how to automate the scratch and how to export it with a song, I had to get the ableton just for this wonderful plugin so I don't know much, I hope to see more of this beautiful scratch
Thank you! I think if you'e just starting with Ableton Live then any video on how to use automation and how to export your work (or resampling a track) would be relevant and useful for you. There are already hundreds of these on RU-vid! :)
I have been looking for a scratching plugin (also for manual scratching!) for a long time and this is the best one I found, you did an incredible job, you thought of everything and more! I wonder if someone who can scratch on a turntable can use this well manually with one hand on the modwheel or a strip and the other on a piano key or a pad! I would love see someone do it and I would love to be able to do that!
Thank you! Yeah, it seems to work pretty well mapped to a fader/slider (not so much with a dial), but yes, a mod wheel or touch strip on one hand and pressing a MIDI note with the other should work well too. Unfortunately, I don't have the skills to demonstrate this well myself though! :)
Nice! Just bear in mind it doesn't sound too good with samples any longer than about a second long. Hoping I can fix this at some point but for now you're limited to very short samples.
@@TurkoftheDrums Cheers! For now, if you want multiple samples, the best way would be to load multiple instances (each with a different custom sample) into a Drum Rack. Multiple samples on one device is coming though. I've had a lot of requests for it!
@@AndrewNorrisMusicTech Hey, I just downloaded the newest version. It's not working smoothly. When it detects a midi not some kind of weird noise appears like you opened first the speakers and afterthat the audio interface. is it possible to make it simpler?
@@TurkoftheDrums Hmm, that sounds strange. It certainly shouldn't be doing that! Could you send me more details please so I can see exactly what's happening (ideally a video - just something filmed on your phone would be fine) to mail@andrewnorris.uk?
I’m on Live 11. When I add my pwn sample it only shows up as a small tiny waveform towards the left of the sample window. I loaded in a very short sample time around one second.
Is this the same with all samples or one particular one? If possible, could you please email me a screen grab (mail@andrewnorris.uk) and ideally one of the samples that's causing a problem?
You can use it in Live 11. It’s just the example project that needs Live 12. In Live 11, just drag the .amxd file into a MIDI track and everything should work fine. :)
woooaaa, thats sick ! gotta check it out !! I can scratch for real. Started out on the turntables circa 2005 :) did all the qbert lessons ... Lets see how this goes !!! From what I see so far. off the bat i'd want 'move presets' , if that makes sense, but I gotta see exactly how this works first
Hahaha those cuts are really good.I stop scratching now. lol. I made a similar device but I want it to use it live. Controlling the sample on Pitchbend (Touchstrip Push) but it's not that easy to build cause when your hand releases the turntable the sample plays straight forward and when you pull back or fortward it spins. To mimic this natural behaviour on a Pitch Bend CC knob/fader or Touchstrip Push is not easy to patch.
@@tonybeatbutcher Awesome! Yeah, I can imagine that trying to create the natural feel of a turntable on any kind of control device other than DVS or a jog wheel is quite difficult to do. You'd need something that adds a kind of 'friction', I guess. That's a lot of maths and numbers! :)
@@AndrewNorrisMusicTech maybe on day I'll manage it to build. But indeed that's not easy I was thinking with a varial line object or envelope, It probably works only on FSR's cause you need to patch something when your hand touches the Touchstrip holding still, to mimic your hand holding the 'record'.
There are old maxforlive devices with dvs control and some clip scratching features. There’s also some vst plugins with dvs control and midi input control too. If anyone (developer included) want some help pointing that out just contact me. Cheers and good job!
@@AndrewNorrisMusicTech I was writting a mail to you but searching for a file… iPad mail app didn’t saved the text xD I will send you a mail right now just to get in touch. 😉
Lovely! Been looking for something like this for a while!! (I've been using ribs in the meantime, it's not great for this kind of thing) On the default theme the text is difficult to read, though.
@@maokus Thanks, I'll bear that in mind. :) I did think of adding a whole FX chain (including filter) to the device but decided not to as you can just as easily use any of Ableton's stock effects if you wanted to. Having a filter which links to the internal LFO might be a good thing to add though.
