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We're putting football rivalries head-to-head in the ultimate debate show. In this episode of Agree to Disagree, Liverpool fan Paul Machin of The Redmen TV tells Man City fan, Big Steve, that he thinks Jurgen Klopp is a better manager than Pep Guardiola.
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Liverpool's Champions League winners or City's Centurions - which team was better?
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@LADbible
@LADbible 2 года назад
With thanks to Paul Machin of The Redmen TV and Big Steve
@chrisyevil
@chrisyevil 2 года назад
Ofc he would say that, He's a Liverpool fan ffs
@MaychTV
@MaychTV 2 года назад
Cheers for the invite, really enjoyed doing the show!
@LADbible
@LADbible 2 года назад
We loved having you on@@MaychTV ! An absolute pleasure to work with
@BigSteveMcfc
@BigSteveMcfc 2 года назад
Paul's a top lad we had a laugh, Cheers lads
@protajidoo2920
@protajidoo2920 2 года назад
@@MaychTV love you Paul you legend. the average fan knows pound for pound Klopp is better than Pep
@andrewp-c3917
@andrewp-c3917 2 года назад
This is the most realistic one so far. Yes they disagree but they're going off passion and respect instead of talking about stupidity
@weSnooker
@weSnooker 2 года назад
Facts
@Anthony-pw5gu
@Anthony-pw5gu 2 года назад
100% g
@browngaymethodistjesuschri1361
@browngaymethodistjesuschri1361 2 года назад
@@Anthony-pw5gu oil sadly
@philipkempbell7174
@philipkempbell7174 2 года назад
Paul talks shit half the time.
@m140i_james
@m140i_james 2 года назад
@@philipkempbell7174 You must have him confused with someone else. Paul knows his stuff.
@kithpadra1862
@kithpadra1862 2 года назад
As a Liverpool fan ,Them agreeing on how disappointing man u look ,just made my day😂😂
@Ragnar850
@Ragnar850 2 года назад
But you Liverpool fans are delusional when you say klopp id better than pep i mean comon where was klopp in 2009 when Pep created the best team ever
@honestmanutdfan603
@honestmanutdfan603 2 года назад
It's the cycle of football mate and lfc and City fans know it better than anyone and tbf I can't mad because I did that to every lfc and city fans basically all other team fans during the 90s and 00s and that's karma now its a cycle we'll come back 1 day and you 2 will be shit again but it's just the cycle of football
@honestmanutdfan603
@honestmanutdfan603 2 года назад
@@Ragnar850 klopp is better than pep bro and am a man utd fan I hate lfc more than city but klopp is better
@Ragnar850
@Ragnar850 2 года назад
@@honestmanutdfan603 yes clearly your a Man United fan you r not going to say that City has the better coach but if you look Pep since his started coaching what he has done you can't compare it to klopp
@honestmanutdfan603
@honestmanutdfan603 2 года назад
@@Ragnar850 pep can't do what klopp has done
@sayak4253
@sayak4253 2 года назад
I'm a Liverpool fan, and I would say Pep gets a lot of stick for managing big clubs. Managing big clubs aint easy. We have seen managers failing at big clubs. Pep has objectively proved that he's a genius man manager and a tactical powerhouse. He's surely one of the best ever. And for Jurgen Klopp he's just my all time favourite manager ever. The sheer passion he exudes on the pitch is just incomparable. Love the man to bits. Can't really compare the two. We're lucky to see them both compete against each other.
@lucademaestri7432
@lucademaestri7432 2 года назад
this is a great comment
@Kevin-bt4wb
@Kevin-bt4wb 2 года назад
I 100% agree with everything you've said, but I'd argue that having success managing big clubs with unlimited spending and loaded with talent isn't enough evidence and the talent and depth of the bench alone can carry a manager. Zinedine Zidane was a manager for less than 2.5 years and won 3 Champions Leagues with Real Madrid, but I wouldn't consider him one of the best managers in the world.
@karamhamdi3218
@karamhamdi3218 2 года назад
yeah pochetinho has one of the best players in history, yet they are having a hard time
@LS15QD
@LS15QD 2 года назад
Managing big clubs is still easier than small clubs...or clubs like Spurs....
@HM-ef1qj
@HM-ef1qj 2 года назад
Well I’m an arsenal fan and believe klopp is a better manager. Don’t get me wrong, pep is an absolute legend and one of the best manager of all time. However he hasn’t won a UCL in 11 years and has been the favourite to win it for the last 3 or 4 years
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 2 года назад
1:16 ''1 title in 30 years'' obviously he means Liverpool as a whole but they way he says it implies that Klopp has managed LFC for all this time. So to be factual, 1 title in 5 years.
@melwinhallstrom1588
@melwinhallstrom1588 2 года назад
Liverpool champions league 1 city 0
@hamlran8502
@hamlran8502 2 года назад
People do the same with pep when they say city never won the cl
@TheMemeJunkie
@TheMemeJunkie 2 года назад
@@hamlran8502 There's a difference between 30 years and never winning it.
@jamesfoley4832
@jamesfoley4832 2 года назад
It amazes me the number of people that think football started with the Premier League. Don’t ever forget the 18mother titles we won. 👍👍👍
@zeno1090
@zeno1090 Год назад
6 now m8
@Akira9212
@Akira9212 2 года назад
This was great. Especially the bit at the end. Both of them letting United fans have it. Hilarious that.
@joedodd6031
@joedodd6031 2 года назад
Obsessed with united
@sathvikkumar3577
@sathvikkumar3577 2 года назад
Ahhh. As a United fan that was a sucker punch at the end. But 2 amazing superfans. 🙂
@joedodd6031
@joedodd6031 2 года назад
@@rabbittko1421 good one🤣
@joedodd6031
@joedodd6031 2 года назад
@@rabbittko1421 I’ll try
@mryoutube9311
@mryoutube9311 2 года назад
Rent free
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification 2 года назад
This part about City being so many points ahead really did age well
@thomasgulliver4522
@thomasgulliver4522 2 года назад
ahh man im getting really worried now
@ThatGuy-tn6lp
@ThatGuy-tn6lp 2 года назад
😂😂 so true
@weSnooker
@weSnooker 2 года назад
All liv fans said league over and boring at the time
@andrewmarrs4149
@andrewmarrs4149 2 года назад
They just did this yesterday......
@ThatGuy-tn6lp
@ThatGuy-tn6lp 2 года назад
@@weSnooker you sound hurt lol
@jacksharkey562
@jacksharkey562 2 года назад
As soon as someone mentions trophies when comparing players, they've completely admitted defeat and are just clutching at straws
@superpantman
@superpantman 2 года назад
'The current state of Manchester United is hilarious' I think the entire premier league can agree on that.
@unanimous8672
@unanimous8672 Год назад
And now we’re mocking them 😈😂
@B_razzer
@B_razzer 2 года назад
Trying to play down how good Virgil is just makes you look stupid tbh. Sometimes you just have to drop the pride and say that player is class.
@norwegianviking2837
@norwegianviking2837 2 года назад
Lmao he actually said Virgil had a «good» season when we was 13mm from 100p and won the CL. That was literally the greatest season ever from a cb.
@mooseyjuice6t9
@mooseyjuice6t9 2 года назад
Nah you overate your players all the time.
@Losmerengues1902
@Losmerengues1902 2 года назад
@@mooseyjuice6t9 exactly
@slimevillage880
@slimevillage880 2 года назад
@@mooseyjuice6t9 I've never seen anyone more overrated than Ruben Dias tbh .
@mooseyjuice6t9
@mooseyjuice6t9 2 года назад
@@slimevillage880 you sound blind.
@salmonero6472
@salmonero6472 2 года назад
"Who called him the best centre-half on the planet.. Klopp?" Kompany did 😅 Also said VvD is the most complete defender in PL history.
@Lifeof3.142
@Lifeof3.142 2 года назад
@EKLAVYA PRATHABHA VARMA Have you heard Maguire?
@salmonero6472
@salmonero6472 2 года назад
@EKLAVYA PRATHABHA VARMA He's the 2nd most expensive.
@karangupta2329
@karangupta2329 2 года назад
Kompany single handedly won 2 Premier League titles with scoring match winning goals against SAF’s united and a 40 yard screamer. Don’t think VVD has ever done that, but how could he he’s only won 1 PL😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@trooperricky2944
@trooperricky2944 2 года назад
@@karangupta2329 this comment makes no sense 🤦🏾‍♂️. Ask any manager in the world who they’d rather have in their team and 100% of them will say VVD.
@gergis31
@gergis31 2 года назад
End of the day Pep is cheque book club 💰, give that money to Jurgen klopp he will win the Premier league and champions league in a row but No matter whatever i love it when Man United are crying
@S--singh
@S--singh 2 года назад
One of the best agree to disagree episode ever. they really agree to disagree. they are both so happy for each other. wonderful to watch. no hate no stupidity.
@aenimic
@aenimic 2 года назад
Paul Machin is class. He makes a good argument instead of being a blinded fan.
@RollieUK
@RollieUK 2 года назад
Let's be real... every fan would like to have a manager like Klopp. Rival fans may not like him because he manages a another team but if he was at your club, you would love him. Every last one of you.
@bobbydogg2860
@bobbydogg2860 2 года назад
Nah I’d rather Tuchel
@Lukas-ow7ow
@Lukas-ow7ow 2 года назад
happy with pep
@abrahamjames7004
@abrahamjames7004 2 года назад
Tell that to us who reach orgasm everytime we watch a Guardiola team pass the ball with so much precision and fluidity!!!
@abrahamjames7004
@abrahamjames7004 2 года назад
@callum And that's suppose to be a flaw??... Lmao tell that to the history books where his trophy records will be displayed!!!
@RollieUK
@RollieUK 2 года назад
@@abrahamjames7004 I hear you guy but if you didn't have Guardiola and had Klopp you would love him.
@devaldyjonathan
@devaldyjonathan 2 года назад
united fan watching: sipping tea smiling until that last question: almost choked n cry 😂😂
@Cooliven
@Cooliven 2 года назад
That was amazing
@Johndoe-gf7eu
@Johndoe-gf7eu 2 года назад
Its weird because loads of liverpool fans hate man city fans and vice versa, some of them mock Hillsborough man city fans so its abit strange tbh, and if one team goes on to dominate over the coming years they will hate them as much as man united 😂
@bobbehfirmino751
@bobbehfirmino751 2 года назад
@@Johndoe-gf7eu Liverpool are a good team so hate other good teams. If City carry on being good, we will hate them. If Utd carry on being awful we have no business with them.
@Smokemeakipper41
@Smokemeakipper41 2 года назад
@@bobbehfirmino751 spoken like a true plastic
@mattsheen4211
@mattsheen4211 2 года назад
Two genuine football fans that can actually have a grown up conversation
@yaneyd93
@yaneyd93 2 года назад
The city lad at one point said Klopp can only win with big money as well. He should inform himself on the situation Dortmund were in when Klopp came. They were almost bankcrupt and nowwhere near competing for international football not even speaking about trophies. Then he won the league twice over Bayern with a team of nobodies and youth products and even led them to the Champions League final. He won titles without loads of money, that's a fact.
@Murph_82
@Murph_82 2 года назад
Pep goes to rich clubs, klopp doesn't.. What klopps achieved is nothin short of brilliant. End of argument
@sauravkumarnanda3193
@sauravkumarnanda3193 2 года назад
For U ...For me Pep is simply better no argument...
@atharvasawant467
@atharvasawant467 2 года назад
you just care about money you dont see how the squad plays a Brilliant manager is judged by how his squad and how he revolutionize a club
@alexbelotti1603
@alexbelotti1603 2 года назад
So Liverpool don’t have money? Loooool
@smokeyste82
@smokeyste82 2 года назад
If Klopp lost to Spurs in the champions league he would've been sacked, which then wouldn't have have stolen the premiership. Liverpool had every ref and the fa on their side that season.
@Rockydenzel
@Rockydenzel 2 года назад
@@sauravkumarnanda3193 klopp can go to city and win everything pep could not manage Liverpool and do what klopp has done no chance . The proof is there . Klopp is on another level
@TG-it8zt
@TG-it8zt 2 года назад
If you want to make 'pound for pound' literal.... then Klopp has spent only £200k per point won in the PL - Pep has spent £650K per point won - and that's on top of the league winning side he inherited. Klopp is clearly the better manager for every single club who isn't backed by a country
@kanchan3312
@kanchan3312 2 года назад
It's not always about money klopp said in his interview that that he likes team with less depth
@karangupta2329
@karangupta2329 2 года назад
Klopp has 1 more season bozo, Even if they spent the same money, Klopp would still be on top just cause he has 1 more season. For all those who saying Klopp doesn’t need to spend to win trophies, for his first trophy he needed to spend 130 million plus net
@protajidoo2920
@protajidoo2920 2 года назад
@@kanchan3312 what he meant by that was he doesn't like a big squad of egos who think they're better than everyone else and deserves more. that's why the fekir deal broke down for eg. he wants the whole squad and club to feel like one family and everyone's got a role. and, for this specific scenario, money does matter cos the question is pound for pound. give Pep 8 mil relegated Robertson from Hull and 5mil relegated shaqiri from Stoke and he wouldn't win the UCL the next season. Klopp did. you could argue forever who's the better coach, but manager POUND for POUND is definitely without a doubt Jürgen Klopp
@TG-it8zt
@TG-it8zt 2 года назад
@@karangupta2329 do you understand simple maths? Money spent divided by points won…. Both with a 5+ year sample size - more games is irrelevant
@nishidkhode8604
@nishidkhode8604 2 года назад
@@karangupta2329 that was Coutinho money 150+ million And the net spend was positive with Vvd Allison Keita coming in
@barrybeattie9163
@barrybeattie9163 2 года назад
“Those Mickey Mouse cups over seas” if City ever win the CL I bet the world club cup will no longer be a Mickey Mouse cup overseas. Good watch though, enjoyed both of them
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 2 года назад
It's funny that the oil money investment and recruitment of pep was to actually get these overseas Mickey mouse cups 😂😂
@alanuk4343
@alanuk4343 2 года назад
America continents are desperate to win that cup.
@hairyppman1703
@hairyppman1703 4 месяца назад
We have won it and it is a Mickey Mouse trophy :)
@Jameshighcock
@Jameshighcock 2 года назад
Thank god we have Paul as the face of redmen tv. He’s so eloquently spoken and has great points. Makes it very hard to argue with.
@poloutz
@poloutz 2 года назад
"The season you won the league, you spent more money than anyone has in one window." Liverpool won the league in 2019/20 and spent £10m in the window on Minamino, Elliot, Adrian and Van Der Berg. Man City has spent £100-200m almost every window... what on earth is he on about?
@sauravkumarnanda3193
@sauravkumarnanda3193 2 года назад
😂😂 So what?? Spent money bro... Don't cry here ...If you can't spent money then Cry more 😀😀...
@dangling-donk
@dangling-donk 2 года назад
Yes you fool hes talking about the window before you won the league, you know the one where you spent 164mil after spending 150 the year before. Hence his point that you won that season of the back of heavy investment. Wouldnt make any sense for him to reference the window after the success would it.
@valerymills1510
@valerymills1510 2 года назад
He’s simply saying Liverpool was breaking transfer records and that got them to a final and got them a league trophy.. how is that hard to understand, the records are there to show 😏
@mark-kq7rc
@mark-kq7rc 2 года назад
so Real madrid dont deserve their titles because they spent money on those UCL and laliga titles, same with barca titles when pep was there too! those big clubs spent money lol
@brianconnolly8769
@brianconnolly8769 2 года назад
Nugget.. Hasn't a clue.
@dylanmurphy9389
@dylanmurphy9389 2 года назад
Scoring a 40 yard volley makes you a better defender apparently
@th3kinghav0c22
@th3kinghav0c22 2 года назад
Not listening to his point fully, focusing on one phrase and commenting out of context, makes your comment valid apparently.
@jmacmcfc4662
@jmacmcfc4662 2 года назад
no being one of the best defenders in the world for years makes him better
@dylan2961_
@dylan2961_ 2 года назад
@@jmacmcfc4662 what a champions league medal for Vincent Kompany
@jmacmcfc4662
@jmacmcfc4662 2 года назад
@@dylan2961_ oh well….. that alone does not make you a better player you know it and I know it… Consistency it’s pretty much the deciding factor for me and van dike has not Done it long enough for me granted he’s been injured but vinny but then again vinny also struggled with injury in the later stages of his city career and he still stepped up and was the commanding force no matter what…but time will only tell if you wonna talk rationally about it… both players are/was amazing either way
@williamwallace3994
@williamwallace3994 2 года назад
@@dylan2961_ was Djimi Traore a better player than Joao Cancelo? Because he won the UCL. Was Michele Padovano a better player than Alan Shearer? He also won the UCL. Your argument is complete bullshit
@owdaniels9390
@owdaniels9390 2 года назад
3:34 “the season you won the league you spent more than anyone else in one window”, I think you’ll find in the 19/20 season we bought two players in both summer and January. Those two players being sepp van den berg for around 2 mil, and minamino for 7 ish mil. Talking out his arse. We’ve actually spent hardly anything compared to other top 6 clubs in the past few years.
@JoeyNeezer
@JoeyNeezer 2 года назад
didnt we sell Coutinho for £145 and spent it on Ally n Virg
@lambrostsiligiannis3312
@lambrostsiligiannis3312 2 года назад
@@JoeyNeezer no. 17/18 season. January: We sold Phil bought VVD. next season 18/19. We spend the most under Jürgen (Fabinho Shaq Ali Naby). But we got rid of some deadwood as well. (That season we finished second and won the UCL) 19/20. Only Minamino came (i mean to be in the rotation for only 8.8 million). That guy made a false statement there about us spending big BUT i dont blame him he is not an LFC fan so he got it mixed up.
@paddeyymcr
@paddeyymcr 2 года назад
As an Evertonian, I have to agree with the Red about Klopp being a better manager. I've always said give Pep a club that needs building and let's see how good he is.
@footballminds3706
@footballminds3706 2 года назад
@@eralpkzloglu1343 LOL. bernado silva was so highly rated after his monaco campaign. Sane, madrid wanted him too. Gundogan such a great midfielders, Walker 50m, Mendy 50m, Dias etc. Are u taking the piss? Klopp has like Robertson, Trent. All of City's players were after by big clubs. None for Liverpool's.
@kichchacultz
@kichchacultz 2 года назад
@@footballminds3706 wtf blind pooler What about Van Dijk?? What about Alisson ,one of the most expensive Cb and GK signings in Pl. The fuck?? You drink piss for lunch?? I can go on and on. And no im no Cityzen.
@ethelburga
@ethelburga 2 года назад
@@kichchacultz Please don't. Instead, of going on and on (believe us we can imagine), go and check the positions in the Premiership net spend table-of Liverpool (a club where ends must be made to meet) and City (a club backed by a sovereign wealth fund, whose unlimited budget extends to being able to circumvent FFP by throwing its weight around). Klopp isn't in the top half.
@footballminds3706
@footballminds3706 2 года назад
@@kichchacultz im not a lpool fan. do u have a brain? klopp only bought established players after reaching UCL final. pep spent loads in his first 2 man city seasons and he alrdy had a stacked team, bar wing backs.
@GobbleWobble123
@GobbleWobble123 2 года назад
This argument is so dumb. Why should the best manager, manage a small club? It just makes no sense. Just because Pep didnt need to manage a small club at first and then go to a big club, doesnt take away what hes done with these big clubs.
@SamsonRyan72
@SamsonRyan72 2 года назад
What is Big Steve saying? The year Liverpool won the league was 19/20, they spent 10m on Minamino and Van den Berg. Unless he is including the season before which was Fabinho, Alisson and Keita which totalled 180m. Man City have spent 300m in one season. So not sure what he is on about there.
@BigSteveMcfc
@BigSteveMcfc 2 года назад
To be fair mate we was talking about a calendar year it just didn't come out right for the edit but we was basically saying a full year,
@anujg188
@anujg188 2 года назад
Which they got from selling Coutinho
@andrejristic4956
@andrejristic4956 2 года назад
@@BigSteveMcfc still not the most a team spent. Compare City and Liverpool transfers windows and you'll see, transfermarkt has it detailed
@yashhirani9645
@yashhirani9645 2 года назад
@@BigSteveMcfc OK fair enough Steve but u can't forget we sold coutinho for 142 million so we recouped the money. That's like city forced to sell KDB to spend... same concept
@neerajsajnani5189
@neerajsajnani5189 2 года назад
@@BigSteveMcfc didnt you spend 200 million in one summer window and buy laporte for 60 odd. What is an Outlier spending for Liverpool (primarily due to the Coutinho money) is norm for City
@bobbehfirmino751
@bobbehfirmino751 2 года назад
Klopp took a financially struggling Mainz into the top division for the first time in their history. He then took over Dortmund despite being a second division manager and ended Bayern's dominance and won two in a row, and reached the Champions League final. That's the part a lot of people don't know, everyone knows what he has done at Liverpool. (Edit): Klopp stayed at Mainz for three seasons after getting them promoted, tipped for relegation every season. Still struggling financially, Mainz finished mid table the first two seasons, and eventually went down the third.
@jackrichardson4089
@jackrichardson4089 2 года назад
Klopp's Mainz also battered Rafa's Liverpool in a pre-season game during those years, doesn't mean much but that's when I first remember hearing Klopp's name
@user-io8cm4dk1f
@user-io8cm4dk1f 2 года назад
Graham Potter took Ostersunds to the 1st Swedish division from the 4th division in 4 years, beat Arsenal at the emirates in Europa league and managed to win the domestic cup with them in 2017, in 7 years he got a 4th division club to the top for the first time ever and won a trophy too. Are people seeing that and also what he’s doing at Brighton and saying he’s the best manager in the world, better than Pep because no one else could do that job? Pep started at big clubs cos he was good enough for big clubs early on.
@bobbehfirmino751
@bobbehfirmino751 2 года назад
@@user-io8cm4dk1f I'm not going to take it as you're being serious, but I'm still going to argue my point. Do you *really* think Sweden compares to Germany and England? Do you think winning the Swedish first division and doing ok in the Europa League compares to winning back-to-back Bundesligas and reaching the Champions League final with the team he had?
@user-io8cm4dk1f
@user-io8cm4dk1f 2 года назад
@@bobbehfirmino751 listen to me. People saying Klopp is better than Pep due to his accomplishments at lower league teams. But the fact is that Pep was at big clubs from the start, obviously there’s a reason for that. And of course I’m not being serious about Potter being the best in the world, but he is a fantastic manager. My point is that what he did in Sweden is bigger than what Klopp accomplished at Mainz, he got back to back promotions with them, I repeat 3 promotions in 4 years, with a team never been in the top flight, them won a trophy with them and look at what he’s done at Brighton. You see how irrelevant the accomplishments in Sweden feel? Then why now that Klopp has won big trophies are people using his small accomplishments to say he’s the best in the world? That’s like for a player, saying he’s the best in the world cos he did it as smaller teams with worse managers and players around them. I’m not against the argument of Klopp>Pep, IMO Pep is better but it’s close, but you can’t use his accomplishments at Mainz, and also can’t use the argument that Pep couldn’t do what he did at Liverpool, cos no one could do what Dyche is doing/has done at Burnley, same for Potter and Ostersunds and Brighton, not many top managers could do those jobs either.
@LolLol-mh8cj
@LolLol-mh8cj 2 года назад
He didnt end the Bayern dominance. He kind of delayed it, because Bayern only really started to win all these titles afterwards.
@topkop286
@topkop286 2 года назад
It's almost impossible to compare Klopp and Pep. Pep is after perfection. He's mostly interested in achieving his ideal football, so he's not gonna settle for lesser players. Klopp also wants to win but he seems more interested in development and unity. Pep definitely has the ability to coach small budget teams but his ambition and temperament will never let him.
@ReaverIII
@ReaverIII 11 месяцев назад
how would you know he has the ability when there is no proof. soft brain.
@brianshockledge3241
@brianshockledge3241 11 месяцев назад
@@ReaverIII No proof of his ability? put those crayons away son and take a nap.
@stevenosullivan187
@stevenosullivan187 5 месяцев назад
​@@brianshockledge3241there is no proof of him doin it with an inferior team
@brianshockledge3241
@brianshockledge3241 5 месяцев назад
@@stevenosullivan187 steve no sullivan I take it.
@dannyupthereds4729
@dannyupthereds4729 2 года назад
I loved the Man City guys explanation of agueros moment
@muhdpeep
@muhdpeep 2 года назад
this is a level headed discussion. i just healed from ty being horrendous the last time this series came on
@abelstretford3097
@abelstretford3097 2 года назад
Great video this! Lovely to see different opinions. It’s our time soon
@aidygooner
@aidygooner 2 года назад
All fans could join in and laugh from 18:28 onwards 🤣🤣
@Venja6
@Venja6 2 года назад
Hold the phone, did that man City fan just say when Liverpool won the league he spent the most money in a window ever???? Why has he not been called out on this blatant lie
@foriegn4life462
@foriegn4life462 2 года назад
Its true
@ra7671
@ra7671 2 года назад
@@foriegn4life462 we bought adrian and harvey Elliott in the window before winning the league?
@dangling-donk
@dangling-donk 2 года назад
Its true, 164mil the window before the win (record) and 150mil the year before that.
@ra7671
@ra7671 2 года назад
@@dangling-donk the window before the win we only signed minamino (7m), the window before that we signed harvey Elliott and adriad (10m) where are you getting these numbers from 😂😂
@Venja6
@Venja6 2 года назад
@@dangling-donk I'm gonna need to know who these players are my guy?
@maxchur
@maxchur 2 года назад
never thought I'd see the day when we finally discovered a city fan
@antongotesson5171
@antongotesson5171 2 года назад
Atleast one that existed before the 2000 thousands
@iswhatitis1361
@iswhatitis1361 2 года назад
Hahahahahah quality
@grealish2234
@grealish2234 2 года назад
Liverpool fan who thinks they are a big club while winning 1 PL in 30 years
@antongotesson5171
@antongotesson5171 2 года назад
@@grealish2234 and how many ucl has city in their history?
@grealish2234
@grealish2234 2 года назад
@@antongotesson5171 lmao . U guys claim we are a small club . Why would a small club have a ucl
@doesnotexist305
@doesnotexist305 2 года назад
I absolutely love all the slight digs at the Invincibles. 70 draws, invincible with 40 points… love it.
@VishwadeepShinde
@VishwadeepShinde 2 года назад
Need more of this agree to disagree football videos 🔥🔥
@GordonSilvestro
@GordonSilvestro 2 года назад
Liverpool back 4 - TAA, Matip, VVD, Robertson = £83m Man City back 4 - Stones, Diaz, Laporte, Cancelo = £228m
@biggestshaq7018
@biggestshaq7018 2 года назад
Dont forget the backups lol: City: Ake 45 mil, Zinchenko 2 mil, Mendy 57 mil, Walker 52 mil Liverpool: Tsimikas 13 mil, Gomez 5 mil, Konate 30 mil, Williams free (academy)
@thelastlegbender7903
@thelastlegbender7903 2 года назад
@@biggestshaq7018 😂😂😂 I was just gonna type this
@FrttMs
@FrttMs 2 года назад
And most of the money on Liverpool's side was spent on VVD lol
@TerroristFunds
@TerroristFunds 2 года назад
That’s what they bought them for year value wise now switch them please
@GordonSilvestro
@GordonSilvestro 2 года назад
@@allanomer6378 try 66.8m and including keepers still puts Liverpool’s still over £100m cheaper
@robertc2324
@robertc2324 2 года назад
nice to see there are actually some nondelusional liverpool fans, really liked this guy
@hyy7854
@hyy7854 2 года назад
He did say van dijk is one of the greats tho
@eizlanhaiqal2007
@eizlanhaiqal2007 2 года назад
@@hyy7854 whats wrong about it?
@mainsxo
@mainsxo 2 года назад
@@hyy7854 he is
@DTM93
@DTM93 2 года назад
@@hyy7854 People regard Jamie Carragher as one of the greats and Virgil Van Dijk is miles better than Carragher.
@user-ny1sc1ys4o
@user-ny1sc1ys4o 2 года назад
@@hyy7854 not wrong
@ErlingEra
@ErlingEra Год назад
“We’ll see” is the best quote in this video. Aged to absolute perfection😭
@johannlothe
@johannlothe 2 года назад
Guardiola is a tactial genius, amazing football mind, but he could never have done what Klopp has done. Guardiola is about the football, Klopp is about people. If Guardiola has the tools, he can do wonders. If he doesn't have them, he can't. Klopp can. Man City wins because every player executes their role perfectly. The right players, doing the right things. You need to be at the right club for that. Liverpool wins because they want it more. They want it more, because of Klopp. You can't beat City because their style of play is unmatched. You can't beat Liverpool because the players will do EVERYTHING in their power, from start to finish, to win. Liverpool isn't the best team, but they can beat the best team. That's why Klopp is better imo. Mentality monsters. Still amazing managers, different managers.
@t0xict1gerfortnite33
@t0xict1gerfortnite33 2 года назад
How do you know that pep can’t do what Klopp has done? He’s never had the chance to do that. Klopp is managing one of the best clubs in the world rn and so is pep but pep is currently doing better. Liverpool are probably the best teams in the world rn player for player but pep is still besting him.
@johannlothe
@johannlothe 2 года назад
@@t0xict1gerfortnite33 I'm sorry friend, but you have to put away your emotional responses for me to take you seriously. It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.
@SuperAyan98
@SuperAyan98 2 года назад
Man City fan here. Really well said. Love the rivalry our clubs have been having from the last 5 years . Really a benchmark for the rest of the footballing world
@michaeldevlin2315
@michaeldevlin2315 2 года назад
100% agree
@mymh8633
@mymh8633 2 года назад
@@johannlothe He’s right about one thing though, we’ve never seen pep attempt to do what klopp has done so there’s no way to know if he could or couldn’t.
@Camere2k9
@Camere2k9 2 года назад
As a united fan For me klopp is clear of pep no debate both are absolute quality but the money pep has had in comparison to klopp is crazy.. bad time being a united fan aye🤦‍♀️
@atharvasawant467
@atharvasawant467 2 года назад
you cant talk about spending money if you dont know how to spend
@Camere2k9
@Camere2k9 2 года назад
The debate is klopp vs pep? And from a financial stand point pep has had a lot more backing hence my point 👆no one knows more than united fans the club is run very badly with stupid wages and signings 👍
@joebarnes100
@joebarnes100 2 года назад
@@Camere2k9 it's the only thing city fans can do is hide behind United's failings in the transfer market.
@biggestshaq7018
@biggestshaq7018 2 года назад
@@atharvasawant467 Only that Klopp also knows how to spend.. probably better than Pep too.. look at Salah, Jota, Robbo etc. Pep spent 40 mil on Nathan Ake, 33 mil on ferran torres, 100 mil on an underwhelming Grealish etc..
@susheelchandra244
@susheelchandra244 2 года назад
Thats why you are United fan. No logic
@rickyleevisuals7216
@rickyleevisuals7216 2 года назад
When Liverpool won the league Liverpool only bought Harvey Elliott in the summer window of the 19-20 season and Taki Minamino in the January transfer window, so the spending big money notion doesn't stand up. Van Dijk and Alisson was bought in the transfer windows of January 18 and June 18 respectively!
@InstigatorDJ
@InstigatorDJ 2 года назад
With Countinho money!
@abrahamjames7004
@abrahamjames7004 2 года назад
Liverpool won the league in the summer they signed Alisson mate!!!
@jayden_0124
@jayden_0124 2 года назад
No we didn’t we won it the season after in the 19/20 season
@joehill4246
@joehill4246 2 года назад
@@abrahamjames7004 that just isn’t true though. That was the season where we won the champions league
@Chris-oz9qx
@Chris-oz9qx 2 года назад
@@abrahamjames7004 no we didn't, we signed Alisson and won the Champions league then in his second season won the league
@renderxtravels8464
@renderxtravels8464 Год назад
Watching this a year later 😂 post-treble and Liverpool playing in the Europa League
@callumcolwell8009
@callumcolwell8009 2 года назад
"Klopp spent more than anyone every has in 1 window the year they won the league".... Erm 2017 City spent £223M in a single window. That year they went on to record 100+ points in the league. Thats the most any English team has ever spent...in a single window.
@abrahamjames7004
@abrahamjames7004 2 года назад
As a city fan, this is the most logical Liverpool fan I've ever seen... Secondly, Kompany is a legend but Van Dijk is a far better player than him
@ermalmulaku4469
@ermalmulaku4469 2 года назад
@@zoheabaleem vvd is a better player as a cb nobody cares about kompany playing CDM and CM that's not the subject
@abrahamjames7004
@abrahamjames7004 2 года назад
@@zoheabaleem Nah this is pure fan bias.... Van Dijk has better passing and better ball playing abilities... Better defensive organization and better positional play...Laporte's first season in City is better than Kompany years at City based on individual performances... I know Laporte hasn't been quite the same but that Laporte first season was better than any Kompany in a City shirt and that wasn't even close to Van Dijk level... Van Dijk might have been around for 3 years as you claimed but Kompany never made City look like a team that could stop conceding goals and that's what VVD has done at Liverpool given how bad thier defensive record was before he arrived, and that's what Dias did last season (and that wasn't anywhere close to VVD's level)
@michaelboycorp8637
@michaelboycorp8637 2 года назад
Still yet to come across a logical city fan though.
@savagejama6501
@savagejama6501 2 года назад
@@zoheabaleem question was who’s the better defender
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification 2 года назад
Maych is a champion.
@KayiEdits
@KayiEdits 2 года назад
this city fan was absolutely had by the LIverpool lad 😂😂😂😂
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification 2 года назад
He couldn't stick on point
@cweston9440
@cweston9440 2 года назад
Yeah Liverpool fan argued in a far more coherent way
@user-rh7lx8nj7e
@user-rh7lx8nj7e 20 дней назад
I love the way Steve tells his stories. He’s got such a way of making you picture everything he’s seen
@ghost-dr1tz
@ghost-dr1tz 2 месяца назад
the aguero goal/istanbul segment was so wholesome between the 2 as they understood each others opinions
@Ajay-d
@Ajay-d 2 года назад
Everyone knows Klopp spent money. Liverpool are not a poor club at all, but "compared to Pep" is the question. How does it keep evading people's heads? "oh hurr durr Klopp too spent money"... Yeah, that's the point. Who spent more?
@cweston9440
@cweston9440 2 года назад
People have this response, because it's easier to try and just invalidate someone's argument than it is to actually go point for point in an argument. It's far easier to just say 'but klopp has spent money tho cmon mate' than it is to properly construct a counter argument to the point 'klopp is a better manager than pep, as he has had comparable success without having had the same level of resource'
@lucasbuyukaslan2857
@lucasbuyukaslan2857 2 года назад
klopp spends what he earnes thats their difference
@VladScousov
@VladScousov 2 года назад
Pep 1 billion quid, Klopp 500 mill. So pep spent half more, crazy
@paulthrutner9114
@paulthrutner9114 2 года назад
@@VladScousov plus the team pep inherited was a PL championship winning team klopp got a team that was top 4 at very very best.
@VladScousov
@VladScousov 2 года назад
@@paulthrutner9114 yh, what klopp has done in his career, steps over any amount of trophy pep won in his lifetime, its not even a debate for me
@mainsxo
@mainsxo 2 года назад
Mickey Mouse trophies when city fans go wild over the Carbabo cup and community shield 😂😂😂😂
@mainsxo
@mainsxo 2 года назад
@Rcn Zizo so what’s citeh excuse for the community shield yous lot go on like it’s a ucl 😂😂
@steved7036
@steved7036 2 года назад
@Rcn Zizo major lololol
@matthewchampion8214
@matthewchampion8214 2 года назад
@@mainsxo What a weird comment to make as Liverpool prepare for a Carabao Cup final. I'm assuming you won't be celebrating if Liverpool win then? Would be a bit embarrassing if you did by your logic.
@butbufaratethemirror
@butbufaratethemirror 2 года назад
@@matthewchampion8214 he's responding to the City fans comment about Mickey Mouse cups, but probably misunderstood that the city fan was referring to Club World Cup and Uefa Super Cup
@TRiXz_2K
@TRiXz_2K 2 года назад
@@mainsxo No City fan mentions the community shield
@PaddyMcMe
@PaddyMcMe 2 года назад
City fan was devoid of objectivity. Liverpool fan actually thought about the questions a bit and wasn't such an absolutist. Also that UCL final vs City vs QPR? Liverpool were in Istanbul and came back from 3-0 down at half time in a UCL final against a Milan team consisting of Kaka, Maldini, Shevchenko, Cafu, Gattuso, Pirlo, Nesta, etc coached by Ancelotti. That's an incredible moment. Man City were playing at home against a QPR team fighting relegation and nearly bottled it... Only managing to snatch the win at the very last.
@scaleman6988
@scaleman6988 2 года назад
Big respect to this City fan! Not a glory hunter like a large majority Great debate between two level headed fans
@Bomberman60001
@Bomberman60001 2 года назад
Pep’s had a silver spoon in his mouth his whole managerial career mate😂 Klopp took a £30 million Egyptian right winger and made him better then £300 million of city attackers combined
@maclawmkim9845
@maclawmkim9845 2 года назад
That savage true!
@th3kinghav0c22
@th3kinghav0c22 2 года назад
compare the trophies, even in big clubs teams flop i.e PSG and UTD
@hitechj5057
@hitechj5057 2 года назад
Pep took a young academy grads and made the Best DM ever and the best player ever
@subhadeepchakraborty4881
@subhadeepchakraborty4881 2 года назад
Pep literally created the greatest midfield ever with the magician from Argentina
@mraves9101
@mraves9101 2 года назад
Bullshittt
@rohannalluri3012
@rohannalluri3012 2 года назад
as a city fan i genuinely think steve is delusional the answers for the first 2 questions were jokes and he just has an aggressive personality in general and doesn’t try to listen.
@shivaanmcfc7512
@shivaanmcfc7512 2 года назад
Guardiola is a better manager, not taking anything away from Klopp. Tactics and all. But the kompany van dijk debate is where he lost me , I love vinny and we'll never have a captain like him ever again but he's not better than Van Dijk (there's an argument that he'll go down as one of the greatest CB's of all time)
@Onomynn
@Onomynn 2 года назад
@@shivaanmcfc7512 would be interesting to hear from a player who played under both managers, like gundogan, his autobiography would be worth a read
@Sheepwillbesheep
@Sheepwillbesheep 2 года назад
City fan forgets that Pep didn’t have to sell KDB to be able to make 2 big signings…That’s the difference & it’s a HUGE one
@lkt6512
@lkt6512 2 года назад
Didn’t that centurions team get knocked out the cl by Liverpool losing at anfield and the ethiad. Also lost the league game 4-3 at anfield. Better team than us but lost 3 out of 4 games against us
@siphomnisi3842
@siphomnisi3842 2 года назад
@Ess 41 it was a dead rubber match
@rajkaranvirk7525
@rajkaranvirk7525 2 года назад
@@siphomnisi3842 When City won the league they beat Liverpool 4-1, February 2021?
@siphomnisi3842
@siphomnisi3842 2 года назад
@@rajkaranvirk7525 that was a different season then. Also van Dijk was injured
@nathand1086
@nathand1086 2 года назад
That 13 points ahead thing went down well
@Rorschach--hm3dk
@Rorschach--hm3dk 2 года назад
I love how Paul comes in with intelligent, coherent arguments. The City fan “Trophies init” . . . Broken record. Totally miss the point of the questions.
@Metali-tin
@Metali-tin 2 года назад
Nah Paul tries to move the goalposts to change the argument more like. Steve said he was basing it off taking his team to winning trophies, then Paul mentions getting to finals and then blames Steve for it. lol Steve is actually a bright guy that makes some good arguments(top banter too), anyone who doesn't see that is probably lacking intelligence themselves. "He doesn't speak posh so he makes no sense to me". Not putting Paul down either, no need to. To be honest, both of them are cut above the normal footy youtube fan on the debating element(knowing their onions).
@Rorschach--hm3dk
@Rorschach--hm3dk 2 года назад
Disagree, saw the same with Tottenham v Arsenal, cannot put bias’s aside to have an actual debate. Saying random words doesn’t make you right. These things are always nonsense, football fans are so one note, so biased and lack critical thinking. FYI, I’m a football fan, doesn’t mean I can’t see the contradiction. Just wish we could have actual conversations about a SPORT we love instead of utter nonsense.
@Metali-tin
@Metali-tin 2 года назад
​@@Rorschach--hm3dk The only one talking utter nonsense is you. He wasn't saying random words I've told you where the "trophies" confusion came from(it was Paul forgetting what Steve said). Plain as day it's ALL about club allegiances with you. You did a poor job of masking that with your faux impartial fronting. Bye anyway.
@Metali-tin
@Metali-tin 2 года назад
@@Rorschach--hm3dk By the way this is LADbible. If you don't like "bants" type back and forth, you pretty much have yourself to blame for clicking. It grates on me too sometimes, not with these two though. The way you praised Paul and dug Steve out says it all for me though... I found your bias complaint ironic in that respect.
@Rorschach--hm3dk
@Rorschach--hm3dk 2 года назад
@@Metali-tin I am a Liverpool fan, that’s truth, hence why I watched it. I get ‘Bants’ as vague as that is, but when two people are having a debate, I don’t get why it has to devolve in to a petty argument, this isn’t the worst one by far, and there was much more respect, but personally I’d love a bit more of an actual unbiased debate, and maybe football fans could get a better reputation. Simply saying “trophies” or in the case of the Tottenham V Arsenal one the lad saying no Spurs player would get in the arsenal team out or pure stubbornness, so Liverpool or not, LADbible or not, I’m not apologising for wanting a bit more of an actual conversation. Jesus, this is my point, most football fans are so one note or fickle, even in the comments you can’t have an opinion 🙄
@daiyan7973
@daiyan7973 2 года назад
This isn’t gonna stop but love listen to the two accents always clash🤣🤣
@HarryKanee
@HarryKanee 2 года назад
Ik 😃
@hvitzark8454
@hvitzark8454 2 года назад
oh my god man the moment when city fan explains aguero's premier league winning goal, i almos cry i swear and im not even a city fan, i felt that bro
@devanman7920
@devanman7920 2 года назад
Great to have two guys who don't just answer with ego
@nicodiangelo7051
@nicodiangelo7051 2 года назад
Liverpool fan here. That last question was hilarious
@jamalwarren2123
@jamalwarren2123 2 года назад
The blasphemy is unreal
@matthewloreilhe7532
@matthewloreilhe7532 2 года назад
The season Liverpool won the league we signed MInamino, Elliot and Van Den Berg
@xdfoty4603
@xdfoty4603 2 года назад
And non of them had a massive impact on Liverpool winning the league. I don’t know what that city fan is on about really
@ratnesh0307
@ratnesh0307 2 года назад
one of the best debates up there❤️ city fan here enjoyed every bit and specially the ending lmaoooo
@smoothmicha7171
@smoothmicha7171 2 года назад
Big Steve wow wow🙏🙏🙏🙏👋he touched that Scouser ...very composed and precise and not emotional in the debate..love it
@unknownv1065
@unknownv1065 2 года назад
As an Arsenal fan let's all laugh at Manchester United. Hahhahahahahhahahah
@TheAzeminem
@TheAzeminem 2 года назад
What do you mean who called Virgil the best CB on the planet? Um just the whole football community as he was voted the second best player in the world behind Messi 🤣
@saicherukuri6324
@saicherukuri6324 2 года назад
Most reasonable and realistic football episode in this series 🙌
@ZolaMagic25
@ZolaMagic25 2 года назад
Really doesn't say much for the rest of it!
@saulgoodman2535
@saulgoodman2535 2 года назад
Paul completely destroyed this guy in a very respectful way.
@ethelburga
@ethelburga 2 года назад
That's what I saw.
@georgeb8679
@georgeb8679 2 года назад
When did he destroy? Half the time he couldn't even talk
@saulgoodman2535
@saulgoodman2535 2 года назад
@@georgeb8679 stick to your Fortnite pal, Paul is a football genius.
@siapaini4379
@siapaini4379 2 года назад
@@georgeb8679 it's the debate between 2 people of course he wouldnt talk 100% of the time WTF
@georgeb8679
@georgeb8679 2 года назад
@@siapaini4379 so?
@danielchadwick-shubat2651
@danielchadwick-shubat2651 2 года назад
I love how the Liverpool fan is being pretty logical and trying to keep emotion out of it while the city firm is purely emotional and not making much sense
@robbieyoung5781
@robbieyoung5781 2 года назад
City fan and i agree, Liverpool fan had great composure in the conversation which overall came out on top in the discussion
@abbey810g
@abbey810g 2 года назад
I think the Liverpool fan is completely boring with his staged persona. Repeating the same nonsense over and over does not show well. Simple facts are that the Liverpool fan tries to bend his opinions to suit and completely ignored the points for guardiola and man city but which city fan should care as pep has taken man city to unprecedented levels whilst higher spending teams like man utd have flopped whilst Chelsea, Liverpool and arsenal have not kept up with man city.
@chrislfc2317
@chrislfc2317 2 года назад
Jürgen Klopp goes to an Europa league side and wins the UCL, Pep goes to an UCL top 4 side and still can't win it. He also has a lot of money to spend while Jürgen had limited resources...
@04foreverinvincible69
@04foreverinvincible69 2 года назад
Dumbest shit I’ve ever heard tuchel took over chelsea whilst they was in 8th and won the ucl so tuchel >> pep 💀 Is this the same pep that schooled sir Alex twice in ucl finals ?
@ermalmulaku4469
@ermalmulaku4469 2 года назад
@@04foreverinvincible69 tuchel had a great team when he came it's just that things weren't working out with lampard
@hazeemA777
@hazeemA777 2 года назад
@@04foreverinvincible69 yeah… look at the team he had plus the freak of nature in Messi. I wanna know if he can beat a Barcelona team with just Divock Origi and Sadio Mane. Klopp did 🤫
@Sonicboom726
@Sonicboom726 2 года назад
@@hazeemA777 with same team under rijkard barca went two seasons without any trophies and when he become their manager in that same season he won a treble for barca
@Surveillance-Ys
@Surveillance-Ys 2 года назад
@@04foreverinvincible69 is it the dumbest shit you e ever heard because you're ignorant or arrogant. The guy just stated facts that's all...relax.
@dillonsiv
@dillonsiv 2 года назад
"No one other than liverpool fans call VVD the best defender in the world" Excuse me what
@peterumathum4903
@peterumathum4903 2 года назад
Yeah that was just straight up delusional. Pretty much everyone is in agreement that he is
@emmanuelcooper326
@emmanuelcooper326 2 года назад
It True Tho idk why u guys say he the Best u have Ramos, Pique, Marquinos, and so on Ramos won soooo many trophies with Real Madrid same with Pique VVD is just starting he won the Premier league that one and the fa Cup yes but u have to look at other Defender who won so much more Where i put VVD is like 10 here for me the Greatest Defender of all time 1: Maldini 2: Puyol 3:Roberto carlos 4: BAresi 5:Cafu 6:Ramos 7: Pique 8: JOhn Terry If your talking about who the Best Defener right now Yes VVD But best in the World no he still has a lot to go
@emmanuelcooper326
@emmanuelcooper326 2 года назад
@@peterumathum4903 I don't agree If u say Best in the World then it a no for me there Defener who are so much better than VVD Maldni, puyol, Baresi, Pique these people have won so much and done so many if u say Who best defender in the Preim yes VVD and who best defender right now is him but VVD best in the world no he only won 1 premier league and fa cup for me in order to be the best Defender u have to have a unstoppable carrerr of winning trophies and contruibte to the team always A Leader im still watching VVD he still has a lot of time but yes some will say VVD is the best but they need to look outside when u say the Word "Best in WORLD"
@dillonsiv
@dillonsiv 2 года назад
@@emmanuelcooper326 I dont disagree with you, but in this context I think they were talking bout currently
@yoreet4656
@yoreet4656 Год назад
Man that Istanbul match is the best match ever this match shouldn't be an other opinions this match it's the definition of football
@kyle_epic
@kyle_epic 2 года назад
19:22 Tranmere fan here and this is 100% true especially near the end of the season!
@steffanh9368
@steffanh9368 2 года назад
The season we won the league the only player we bought was Takumi Minamino. So in fact it the complete opposite of what he said we won the league with the LEAST amount spent in one window. Adding another reason on why Klopp is a better manager than Pep
@plobeck.1572
@plobeck.1572 2 года назад
Hes obviously reffering to the summer before u won the league…
@hugeT_
@hugeT_ 2 года назад
@@plobeck.1572 yeah but they sold Coutinho for £147. So they didn’t spend that much net
@steffanh9368
@steffanh9368 2 года назад
@@plobeck.1572 no he didn’t. He specifically said the season we won the league. So he’s wrong but he won’t mention that now would he?
@skylineultra8120
@skylineultra8120 2 года назад
Klopp himself said that pep is the better manager. 😭😭😭
@LC2K00
@LC2K00 2 года назад
@@skylineultra8120 he’s being humble you clown
@lewiscook129
@lewiscook129 2 года назад
The Liverpool fans on this always win the arguement.
@iamviral7362
@iamviral7362 2 года назад
Not this time. The city fan was too eloquent for the liverpool fan
@LTDudzek
@LTDudzek 2 года назад
@@iamviral7362 Too eloquent? Did you watch the video? Delusional lol
@radef.6177
@radef.6177 2 года назад
@@iamviral7362 do you even unverstanden meaning of the word?
@iamviral7362
@iamviral7362 2 года назад
@@radef.6177 should be asking you Shakespeare
@benspiller455
@benspiller455 2 года назад
Nah there was one video where the Liverpool fan was fucking delusional
@rkid4228
@rkid4228 Год назад
Watching this 11 months on, oh how I want an updated agree to disagree between United and Liverpool
@taofeeqtijani6364
@taofeeqtijani6364 2 года назад
Lol absolutely fucking love these guys. They respected each other throughout the session.
@user-ny1sc1ys4o
@user-ny1sc1ys4o 2 года назад
The Liverpool fan was too generous the city fan is a biased af
@aarnethn
@aarnethn 2 года назад
if he's too harsh on that city fan, he will be called "tOxIc". :')
@user-fd6rf8ht4u
@user-fd6rf8ht4u 2 года назад
What's this city fan on about no one calling VVD the best CB itw??? It's been said countless times by players, managers and pundits. Kompany himself called VVD the best CB to grace the PL, so that's his argument out the window.
@robertward6582
@robertward6582 2 года назад
The best one so far. Both sensible and reasonable
@footballhipstertv
@footballhipstertv 2 года назад
Pep started at the very top, and did the very best that you could possibly do, winning a treble in his first season of management and completely revolutionizing the game.. This was unprecedented, after leaving he could literally choose to manage any club in world football that he wanted to, and yet he is disrespected by casual fans for choosing the very best clubs that would make him most comfortable. No manager's career has ever spanned out like Pep, he's only not won the league title in 2 seasons of his entire career as a manager. People act like these teams have a god given right to win titles. Since he left Barça & Bayern both have had many managerial changes despite consistent league success.
@faytachiMPS
@faytachiMPS Год назад
Barca were in dire need of a rebuild
@littleboy1273
@littleboy1273 2 года назад
Could Klopp have gone to to best clubs with infinite money and win everything, yes. Could Pep have taken over 3 clubs in need of a rebuild with not much money and turn them into European giants? Absolutely not
@EliTheEnthusiast
@EliTheEnthusiast 2 года назад
You literally have no proof of that😂😂😂😂 don’t say absolutely not. Pep has changed the sport, can’t say the same about klopp
@littleboy1273
@littleboy1273 2 года назад
@@EliTheEnthusiast Klopp has completely changed the role of the modern fullback as well as turning alright players into the best in their position. Salah, Mané, Van Dijk, Alisson, Robbo, Trent, Matip, Wijnaldum, Fabinho are examples.
@EliTheEnthusiast
@EliTheEnthusiast 2 года назад
@@littleboy1273 lol pep literally did that before him, pep invented the role of the inverted full back before klopp did. And since when were gini and Matip the best in their position?😐
@alfielee2989
@alfielee2989 2 года назад
@@EliTheEnthusiast I think he’s more making the point that they changed from average players to world class players, meanwhile pep can buy a 22 man squad of world class players
@alexbelotti1603
@alexbelotti1603 2 года назад
Agenda is real. Pep never needed to go to bum clubs. Why do elite coaches need to?
@vishwasshankar3929
@vishwasshankar3929 2 года назад
Klopp is better, if he too had the backing like guardiola has in city, even he would have built a similar kind of dominating team
@oscarfoard5108
@oscarfoard5108 2 года назад
this has been the best one. two blokes respecting opinions with no foolish opinions
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 2 года назад
11:07 One counter argument i wished Paul made regarding City's Centurion team was how weak the Prem was that season. The best team after them was United with 81 points, unconvincingly won their UCL group vs Basel, Cska Moscow and a super terrible Benfica side that lost all 6 games by 1:14 goals. In the Round of 16, they then continued to play bad and got knocked out vs Sevilla, a bang average Sevilla side at that. Sevilla barely qualified for the RO16 previously in a group with Liverpool, Spartak Moscow and Maribor, with just 9 points and a +0 GD while Liverpool got 12 Points and +17 GD, Sevilla finished 7th. A Liverpool side that was still not world class as LFC still had Lovren and Karius at the back and no Fabinho, VVD joined in the middle of the season and LFC barely finished 4th and ofc lost the CL Final vs RM because they weren't truly world class yet and the weak defence cost us. Tottenham who finished 3rd also got knocked out in the UCL RO16 vs Juve. You could very well argue that in that Season, there was no World Class team besides Man City. Man United definitely not, even though they finished 2nd, their UCL Performance was too crap and they didn't do anything special in the smaller domestic cups, maybe LFC because of our UCL Final run but other than that, we weren't great, to get to the final we had a wild shoot out game vs As Roma, aggregate score was 7:6, it was fun but showed how massive LFC had to improve and in the domestic cups we only played 3 games as West brom and Leicester knocked us out.
@McfcGalore
@McfcGalore 2 года назад
Pretty sure I can say the same for the 19/20 season. City were awful that season, so were united and all the others. Liverpool literally were on top since matchday 2, so don't use this silly argument of the prem being weak that season as an excuse to downplay City's achievement
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 2 года назад
@@McfcGalore it's not an excuse just because you don't accept a valid argument, maybe the prem was weaker than usual in 19/20 aswell but you didn't make a detailed argument like i did in my comment so..
@McfcGalore
@McfcGalore 2 года назад
@@LegendNinja41 wdym by a detailed answer? I don't need to write a full English essay on how the prem being weak in 17/18 is a flawed argument bud
@LegendNinja41
@LegendNinja41 2 года назад
@@McfcGalore sure you don't need to, you just dismiss everything and make up stuff. it's a 3-4 min. read, not an essay, well atleast if you can read like an normal adult and don't have a super short attention span.
@CJ-hq2kl
@CJ-hq2kl 2 года назад
With the scouser on this one
@deathdragonslayer1
@deathdragonslayer1 2 года назад
Agreed with him except on the VVD vs Kompany debate. No chance is VVD better than Vinny at this present time. Things could change when VVD hangs up his boots though.
@victorzelo4304
@victorzelo4304 2 года назад
@@deathdragonslayer1 kompany better career (so far)…but vvd better player
@dylanmurphy9389
@dylanmurphy9389 2 года назад
Where’s this manc been? Literally everyone refers to VVD as the best CB
@danielpollock6893
@danielpollock6893 2 года назад
6:44 truer words have never been spoken 🤣🤣
@XLadd
@XLadd 2 года назад
1:38 that fkin hilarious that mate "Ay listen I'm not a brass just to clear that up"
@thivianvarnacumaaran6746
@thivianvarnacumaaran6746 2 года назад
With the first question, its really hard to say being a liverpool supporter. I actually respect pep, and honestly with the resources he has, he got man city within the expectations they should be in. Not many managers can do it in the way he has done it, and people that have done it have ride the success from the previous managers. The only criticism from pep is the cl. Klopp for me I personally love the guy, mans an honest hardworking person that makes any player that does come in better than they really should be. There were a few hairy signings from him that didn't work out (karius) but for the most part he does elevate their levels. He also makes me proud of the club with the progression and constant improvement from the team. He adapted his tactics later on to make us more defensively sound and takes the best qualities from our team to win. I dont wanna jinx it, but I really think this team will win alot this season, and its gonna be cause of diaz inclusion. Despite that, pep will be known to be the better manager than klopp sadly. Objectively speaking, he has done more with the bigger names and his legacy as both a player and manager is set. Me personally, I love klopp and cause of the character he has shown, I think for me anyways he's better than pep.
@spa2damax
@spa2damax 2 года назад
I love the way Klopp goes about it but I hope you aren't suggesting that Pep doesn't raise the quality of his own players? Look how much better Rodri, Cancelo, Mahrez, Zinchenko, even Aguero played after their first year under him.
@thivianvarnacumaaran6746
@thivianvarnacumaaran6746 2 года назад
@@spa2damax 100%, you can even say he really revolutionize kimmich as a cdm, messi as a false 9, and many others as well. Even though pep has taken it from the academy. I do think where klopp got his players from some being absolute no one (lewa and Robertson for example) to being absolutely elite just edges that quality of him over pep. You could definitely make the arguement over busquet as well, but he did play for barca b side...so there was talent there that pep did found in him. Yeah, just think klopp edges him in that regard
@bEsTsMiLePeRsOn
@bEsTsMiLePeRsOn 2 года назад
Paul, a true representative of LFC! The City lad was decent too
@Mogedemog
@Mogedemog 2 года назад
I love seeing Steve in these vids, always sound af
@jamiebeveridge4779
@jamiebeveridge4779 2 года назад
The only signings we made in the season we won the league were Adrian and Elliott in Summer, and Minamino in January. Not quite on the money is Big Steve there.
@applesoranges559
@applesoranges559 2 года назад
An Andy Robertson for an unthinkable 8 Million from stark unknown... a Chelsea & Mourinho reject in Mohammed Salah ... an absolute under rated nobody in Henderson & Trent ... N the list just goes on & on... The man jus keeps building miracles at the background with absolutely no peas to spend at all... It's not just LFC, it's the English game that is so lucky to see and have him 💯 🌎 🙏 ...
@seanhughes3073
@seanhughes3073 2 года назад
Can someone inform that City fan that he's wrong by saying Liverpool spent more in any transfer window the window before they won the League. After Liverpool won the Champions League the only player we signed was Van Den Berg. Big lad is wrong, and great work Paul as always ⚽️🙌
@gb8924
@gb8924 2 года назад
The guy that said Van Djik was the best CB was Kompany.
@HYSTERIA-ee2re
@HYSTERIA-ee2re 2 года назад
Kompany was the glue that held that team together even when he was injured he was like their dad making sure everyone was on time training properly the players said how influential he was and how much he contributed to our success and I dont see that in VVD
@suneethmathur3960
@suneethmathur3960 2 года назад
The Man City fan saying that Man Utd is Disneyland is spot on. Been saying the exact same thing about the Glazer ownership and the current state of our club for years. Absolutely shameful to be a United fan atm.
@joshuaheald2029
@joshuaheald2029 2 года назад
Year Liverpool won the league they bought Sepp Van Der Berg and Takumi Minamino across both windows but 'spent the most amount any club has ever spent in one window'....??
@steel.oneill
@steel.oneill 2 года назад
Lifelong Liverpool fan here, lived in Ancoats when that QPR game happened. Had my door open for that game, I could feel the ROAR from the Etihad when that Aguero goal went in. Still gives me chills - beat feeling other than Liverpool winning titles etc x
@tommychesonis4610
@tommychesonis4610 2 года назад
Interesting this was released when Liverpool are now 3 points off vs when this was recorded at 13 points off. Curious if that would change this discussion
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