This is just so wonderful within Christendom, to see David Shephard, Derek Warlock and John Newton, together, as they always were, uniting our churches in praise of God. May we please and truly rekindle this in the name of Christ, our Risen Lord.
They have been changed in several hymnals, and to me it makes the meaning more clear and relevant. It is true that care must be taken not to distort the meaning.
I'm an american organist who had the wonderful pleasure of attending the RCM. I have one question, I can't seem to find this hymn ANYWHERE. Could one of you british chaps help me out in locating this hymn? Thanks and great choir and organ also.
Even if the title of this clip didn't have "RC" in it, you'd know it was one of our churches because of the full-blown misinterpretation of Vatican II architecture of the cathedral.
nanogeekpro2 Thought so..and Terry on the organ..Phillip Duffy's Wiki page does him no justice,particularly the transition between 'Woolton College' and SFX...a huge gap with nothing explained..I was in the choir mid 60's during the transition between the Crypt and the Wigwam.Plainsong!!
timmy lumsden Nice to meet you then timmy, I was the unfortunate dude at the end who got zoomed in on by the camera man who expertly placed himself between me and the conductor lol.
nanogeekpro2 I have your message but can't work out how to reply! Will have to search old laptop for original mp4 or find original VHS and retransfer (which would prob give better quality!)
I wish a few words could be changed: instead of "Our fathers owned Thy goodness" say "Thy ancients..." then in the second verse: "They bade men rise and hasten to share the great King's feast" "and bade them rise and hasten to share Thy gracious feast" In the last verse: "and then by saints and angels" instead of "and then by men and angels". Or something similar. Then it wouldn't contain sexist language. It's a beautiful hymn, otherwise!
churchwhistles There is no need to deny the Kingship of Christ. That is a step towards denying the ordination of women but only pagans have priestesses.
Over 100 years ago, Pope Pius X of the "Roman Catholic" Church would NEVER have ordinarily tolerated this vernacular singing of hymns in the English language during High Mass! Neither would Pius XI nor Pius XII!! *Canon VII:* The language proper to the Roman Church is Latin. Hence it is forbidden to sing anything whatever [yea, even congregationally or chorally sung HYMNS] in the vernacular in solemn liturgical functions - much more to sing in the vernacular the variable or common parts of the Mass and Office. - Pope Saint Pius X, _Motu Proprio (Tra le Sollecitudini),_ November 22, 1903. *Canon IX of the Decrees of the Council of Trent:* If any man shall AFFIRM ... that the Mass ought to be celebrated in the vernacular languages only ... LET HIM BE ANATHEMA!! (Council of Trent, sess. xxii., can. 9.)
I mean no offence to the Roman Catholic Church but how are people expected to understand what is being said or being sung if it is in Latin? You can't expect people to have to learn another language just so they can learn from the gospel. It is ridiculous! I'm glad the Roman Catholic Church has moved on from always speaking in Latin during services however there are other problems which need to be addressed. I am Protestant and I pray that closer connections would be made with the Catholic and Protestant churches. GOD BLESS YOU
