Sziasztok! For all the Magyars watching, I know Hungary is geographically in Central-Europe. 😄 But I think that people generally tend to divide Europe into two parts, East & West. I guess it's more the difference in "culture" rather than the geographical location. So that's why I called it East-Europe. I don't mean any insult. You are all great! 🇭🇺❤
So called Insta or You tube ‘Star’ you’re a MUPPET you little grass ...find out where actually Hungary located first than spout bs on RU-vid..should’ve started first when Hungary was an apostolic Catholic Kingdom Nederland was still below see level not with this east west bs ... hopp on ur bike and ride quickly back to Belgian where ever you coming from DH...
Maar ik denk dat het een beetje ignorant is. Europa is veel meerkleurig dan een Oost en West verdeling. Er zijn enorm grote verschillen tussen Midden- en Oost-Europa. Dus vooral als een West-Europeaan die in Hongarije woont heb je een zeer goede kans om de misverstanden over Midden-Europa dudelijk te kunnen maken en Nederlanders (en andere mensen in West-Europa) informeren :) Veel plezier in Boedapest, ik hoop dat je van het leven daar kan genieten :)
Haha, yeah Hungarians will never shut up about being "central Europe". This is because we do not want to be in the same group as the rest of Eastern Europe, but let's face it, we are more and more Eastern every day. :/
Yesss! I lived in Gödöllő for 6 years and I can almost guarantee that the fastest Lild cashier is working there. I could barely see his hands. It was like a 10x speed up on a video. I couldn't even take a breath while he finished with all the stuff that I bought.
I have a good friend whom visited me often in Hungary. He was from Limburg which is a quite different region from the rest of the NL. He always says Hungarians are quite rude, because we don’t greet everyone on the street and we don’t really shake hands with unknowns 😂 He also said we are paranoid about spies, wars, political crisis etc (I have to agree with him on that, but that’s because of our difficult history) and that everyone is kind of too private (you don’t get a chance to see into a house and often not even into the garden for example). And that we love to complain and speak about our history and culture!! That’s very true 😂😊 Now, when I went to Limburg (I’ve been there at least 10-12 times for small-long holidays) I found many things strange. Like, they go out to eat soooo often, they drive many kilometres sometimes only to sit on a terrasse in Walkenburg for a drink and they are too curious about people (they have this weird thing to look out their window very suspiciously when someone happens to cross nearby) 😂 I also recall the strange little mirrors in Amsterdam. People fix little mirrors in such a way, that they can see from their window whom is on the street. So it was very funny. I don’t particularly like Western Europe, although I live in different western countries since 5 years, but Limburg is really my favourite 😊😉
Actually the last couple winters have been pretty mild. But usually we get down to -15c as a minimum in most winters, and you should put antifreeze in your car for -25c at least since we get -20 sometimes. Although not for long.
I think it's totally Eastern European economically, politically. There is only west and East. By the way Europe is wilder than we imagine, Russia, Belorussia, even Kazahstan, Georgia. For us it's hardly Europe.
Enjoyable video. I'm married to a Hungarian, and when we got engaged, my (Australian) salary was something like five times her Hungarian one. Weather is good there but.
I really dont understand why people from western european countries come to Bp and then surprised by the salaries, for me people who come from rich country to poor its because they are not succesful in their home country.
He starts the video with a lie, right in the first sentence. East Europe :( Fuck that shit. It's like saying the capital of Hungary is Bucharest. Syberian winter: yes, that's East.
we just call everything from the old eastern-block east-europe exept the balkan it´s not a negative word for us it´s just what they say here i think it´s still from the old times you know
Goed gedaan! Haha, funny watching this as Hungarian living in the Netherlands. I agree on the weather.;)) But as a motorbike commuter I prefer the Dutch weather where I can ride my bike almost all year round, Rotterdam area anyway. You cannot do this in Hungary. Plus you melt on the bike during the summer. Well done for lasting for 3 years! I'm guessing it helps that you don't understand the conversations around you 100% all the time without even paying attention... that's a native speaker thing. Good luck with your time in Hungary!
I only saw very fast cashiers in Hungary but I might encounter some slow ones in the future. The first thing you know is that you put out all your stuff, you blink and the cashier is already asking: credit cars or cash?
I never saw so much rubbish. Slow cashiers and mild winters?? You have been asleep or smoking something bad!! Lack of rain. Yes. Doh! Lastly, wages are based on the economy and your worth.
Hi! The cashier -thing: Its not true. I mean.. its not so dramatic like you said. I'm from Hungary , I was working in several other contries, including Belgium, Germany, France.. and the cashiers are the same or worse like in Hungary. For example is Germany in Lidl there were a 10meters row at one cash..the buyers were sooo disappointed and angry , they were shouting to the Lidls workers that " Kasse Zwei bitte !!!" .. but the only one cashier just sit there..and smiling like and idiot.. This scene was a daily thing.. not just one time. So.. maybe you think that its better is western-europe, but its not true.
Geographically maybe not (though it seems quite arbitrary to me where you draw the line betweem East, West and Middle) but culturally? I mean the mentality of the people... Balkán.
Dear Raf ! Be very aware of Eastern European Countries like Romania because they History’s and they’re from the Big Roman Empire. Romulus and Remus storybook then VLAD the Impaler the Vampire tourist Industry. They are not Eastern but Balkan sheapherders.
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Do you still live here? Has your perspective changed?
It's quite funny but i've got the same cashier-experience in Amsterdam - but it was made the owner of a small pub. About noon, there was nobody in his pub, except me and 3 of my friends. Very nice guys: not much hair, military gear, Martens boots. We weren't drunk yet so we asked him if we could smoke a cigarette inside the pub. The answer was no (all on the empty tables were one ashtray around). Okay, we went out to smoke. When we got back, we saw the guy was smoking. One of my friend grabbed his neck and shouted him, like: "You faszszopó holland geci (nice hungarian expression), why we were told that smoking is forbidden here?" "It's not a cigarette, it's a joint" - he said. "Fuck me, we went out to have a joint in your fucking rain! May we smoke our joint inside from now on?!" "Sure, you do." And a few minutes later he joined us and has became friends with us in a few minutes after a normal conversation (and smoking, of course). We spent more than a thousand euros in a week there, and never saw other customers. One day we found his pub closed, but he was sitting at the next (concurrent) pub and called us to join him and be his guest. He WAS our guest, of course, but who cares. And not this guy is the problem, but all of you, dear Western-Europeans. Because you think, we are some of your voluntarily niggas servants. You don't like the services here. Really? That chip-chip girl in the cashier makes the same amount of money in two months of work what your pub owner made on us in a week. Why she would have to hurry for you when you are standing in the line? And as for the Dutch. Me and my friends used to work here and there in the night life of Budapest. We thought the most arrogant, most annoying and most irritating people are the drunken Germans (Russians are nice and elegant people comparing to them) - before we meet the Dutch. A few Germans want to brawl (okay, come here and let's brawl, Hansi!) - none of the Dutch did. They are pissing on the customers (they think it's fun and they can do anything because they aren't home), and they were wondering when we are playing Flying Dutch with them. Flying OUTTA HERE. Face into the concrete. And they are crying and whining in the corner and call the police. The hungarian police. lol If you don't like here, then go home. You've got your local niggas to serve you. For a while. And one day your local niggas have fucking fed about you, like we did, in Hungary. And that'll be the day - because here in Hungary, we aren't cannibals.
Favorit things about Hungarian cashiers. Cashier1: *doing her job* Cashier2: MARIKAAA! WHAT IS THE CODE OF THIS? *shaking some dread to the air* Cashier1: IDK. ASK PISTA Cashier2: HEY! PISTA. WHAT IS THE CODE OF THIS? And you can hear this from the back of the store.
Another version of this. Cashier 1: WHAT IS THE CODE OF THIS? Cashier 2: They changed it/that's a new item/it's in the booklet elsewhere on page XY. Cashier 1: Oh, you're right. *initiates small-talk with the customer to hide the awkwardness*
Business is business, if she/he doesn’t like her salary/job it is not my problem. Then improve the skils and find a better job. That cannot be an excuse.
For years ago we did talk about west and east Europe. Because of the wall. that seems to be in our bones, because a lot still talk about eastern Europe if they talk about Czechiën and slovakia Hungary But you right it is central europe. East Europe is Ukraine, Belarus and a part from Russia.
@Z.K. I saw British documentary about Prague from 30s (it was somewhere on youtube) and they were calling us central europe, bridge between west and east. So I can confirm, calling our region eastern europe is just product of cold war.
According to the United Nations definition, countries within Eastern Europe are Belarus, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Moldova, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Ukraine, and the western part of the Russian Federation.
@@mywellbeing985who cares about the UN? They can go and f thenselves for all I care. Hungary, Slovakia, Chechia etc are in the centre of Europe. Eastern Europe has a distinctly different culture than central Europe, also central europeans look like a mixture of all europeans, meanwhile there is an Eastern european look.
@@-trimka2841 Kecskemét vagy Debrecen vonzáskörzete? Szerinted aki Detroitban él az mit tehet? A kormány egyet tehet, megpróbálhatja financiális eszközökkel ösztönözni a Kelet-Magyarországi munkahely teremtő beruházásokat.De majd 22.-től Feriék. :-))))))
I always like to hear foreigners are living in Hungary talking about their experiences. It gives some other perspective. Thank :). The cashier thing is funny because it's true :D. However Lidl and Aldi have change the game and you can't be fast enough to put your stuff in your bag at their places, but in a regular Hungarian grocery you definitely have the chance to chill at the cashier :D
Hi! Im a hungarian living in the Netherlands and this cashier thing at first site I would say its not true, but then I think myself here in lidl to pack your shopping as fast as the cashier scans it. Man that is an actual sport and many times i complained about it. Now I take it as fun and a sport…we do it together with my girlfriend then we match the speed!:)
Haha, so funny. As a Hungarian living at the Netherlands, the speedness of cashiers is so stressfull for me. :D Yeah and it's difficult to get used to the rainy days.
Im a Hungarian in The Netherland and thats is true about the cashiers but in the construction sites they can be really lame and slow. They are there for 7-9 hours a day but the usefull part its in it maybe a half day. Drinking watered coffe all day. smoking cigarets every 10 minutes and talking, talking talking. But they are a really nice poeple i like them
@@2u949rnb they just wonder what u are, plus its an interesting tribal racism. You are not their village, rather than another race in their eyes. Dont add much on dogcock weawing. Which dog does it defo dont engage at once.
@@RafRasenberg Central Europe is a common distinction and it tends to be applied to the area between germany and Belarus. Basically the historical borders of the USSR/Russian Empire. And there is quiet a cultural distinction.
Geographically speaking Hungary might be in eastern-central europe but culturally it's totally an eastern european country without a shadow of a doubt. I know many people in Hungary like to think we are closer to the west than we actually are. In fact, quite the opposite is true, we are fairly different from the west in terms of values, attitudes, approach to life etc.. (based on my experience).. Which is ok, no shame in that.. But the problem is that we hungarians all too often take offense when foreigners call us "eastern european" when in fact that is quite true. We are so insecure, it's insane. As a nation we are full of inferior complexity I guess. We should instead be proud of who we are and don't give a damn about what the rest of the world think of us or whether "eastern europe" has negative connotations or not.. Peace!
@@maximmaximus6604 I disagree. Hungary is indeed queit unlike the west, but it is also drastically different from the soviet successor states. Central europe might well be a useful distinction to describe this.
My favorite story about cashiers is when in a grocery shop I wanted to buy a new durable shopping bag but the cashier didn't have it. So she called out to her colleague 5 meters away: "Marika! Do we have any homeless bags left?" It was hilarious.
Raf, if you want to see East yourop, you have to visit Ukraine Blorussia or Russia You will see how different are those places from Western or CENTRAL Europe...
As a Hungarian who moved to the Netherlands, it's fun to hear the other side of the story. I really miss the sunny days and nature from Hungary (hopefully I can come back quite often), but my salary is like five times higher in the NL
How do you feel about the taxes you pay here, I think the coming demographics crisis will likely cause tax to rise even more, and I'm not going to pay for al the baby boomers who are retiring, so I'll be immigrating when the ship sinks.
@@Pidalin They are particularly high in the Netherlands though .Something like 50% taken out of your wage packet .After that high fuel prices etc .Only thing cheap in NL is Cigars and rolling Tobacco and take away beer .
Well in Netherlands things are most expensive in almost all of Europe! So yeah salary is higher but it goes right into pockets of goverment and taxoffice. Self preservation in Hungary is best. Why work like an idiot until 67 years of age which is a mandatory age for retirement pension and then die of heart attack soon after from stressfull jobs in the past running around like the Dutch chickens or example cashiers or even business men driving all day to clients with 1000 phone calls and reports per day.....why people are like rubber balls hopping around like lunatics? Just sell your house in Netherlands and move to Hungary to be happy not living in the fast lane to impress everybody around you how succesfull you are. They will not be crying at your funeral or will we be mentioned in history books like we changed the world so much ......bc world is changing but only in worse way. In Hungary they just don't give a damn and just happy with simple small things.
Hey Raf, I enjoyed your video. I live in a 100K+ pop. city in Hungary. But the cashiers at one of the stores are faster than lightspeed while at some others are much slower. Big big difference. So I guess it is not about the mentality. You should choose an other supermarket! :) Hungarians are kinda yanks in Europe so speaking about salaries is a common thing. I wish you a prosperous staying/living in HU, I bet this is one of the safest places near and far. Take care.
The chasiers in hungary are very fast XD (I don’t know where did you buy your products) but when I shopping I can’t even put my stuff in my bag because of the fast movements of the chasier. From my side this is the problem XD
Hungary is the literal center of Europe. Westerners... They never cease to be ignorant :) Eastern European.... XDDDD And no, it is literally about geographic location. East and West are geographic directions. And saying Hungary is the same culture as say Romania, is just plain wrong and insulting my man :)
It’ll be nice if you talk more about working conditions in hungary and chances of getting hired as an expat etc, also life in hungary compared to that of netherlands
If you can speak German or French (always + English), you should always be able to get a job in a call centre. It is not the best paying job and some of them are quite stressful, but at least you have stable employment from where you can look for better jobs without having to worry about money. There are also more niche opportunities for other languages, so if you can speak English + another language you always are in advantage. Other then that the Automotive Industry is very big in Hungary, tho I have no Idea how the employment opportunities in that sector is if you can't speak Hungarian.
@@farhanfazni5460 Unfortunately I have no Idea and considering the recent corona crisis, I guess the job market for job seekers in that area will be more competitive, at least until next year.
@@jdlc903 1500HUF = 4.16 euro/hour, brutto. means before all taxes. soif you get netto 2.25 euro on your bank? Minimum income is 160.000 (444 euro brutto) and 210.000huf (583 euro) 1 euro=360huf brutto a month. depending education. My friend A english teacher outside Budapest earns that 210.000 Huf /50 hours a week. In Budapest and other big cities the income is around 300-400.000 huf or higher. ( they say??)
@@yabbagabb00 If it's gross it's not even enough to pay for rent and services in Budapest if it's net you can barely survive there. You need to live a county away from the capital to make it semi decent. I earn 2800Ft/hour gross in Fejér (450k/month), although I'm an Engineer so I have better prospects.
I Am Hungarian who I live in the Netherlands 🇳🇱 For me is the Dutch language is not easy but I bet for you the Hungarian is even harder (has no any similarities with any language ) I hope you enjoy Hungary
It's always interesting to hear comments from foreigners about my country, so thanks for sharing your video! The cashier thing is so true. I lived in Austria for a few years and moved back to Hungary, then one of the first things I noticed in shops when I was back that cashiers work so incredibly slow compared to Austria. And do you know the reason for it? In communism it was very uncommon that people got fired from their job (which was low paid of course) so people weren't motivated at all to work as fast as possible. Many cashiers are older these days, so they grew up in that era and got used to this habit, though the younger ones also work quite slow, I guess it remained in our culture.
Low unemployment in last few years is the reason why most of companies started building self service cash desks here in Czechia, it's not literally good, sometimes it's really complicated, but when you get used to it, you can do it 10 times faster than cash desk lady. Sometimes I would like to do it by myself when I see her. I know what is it like running around whole day, I work as CNC programmer/operator and have to work on more CNC machines at once and also I have many office work, people are always like "but I am here for 12 hours, you don't know what is it like" ....omg be glad that you work in some shop, we have to work on like 3 work places in one moment and carry 50 kg things and also many office job, they are just cry babies in supermarkets, I really don't like this, sometimes when I hear them speaking, they think that they are only one people who have hard job and are tired from that, but they actually don't know what real hard job is. Their massive advantage is that you can replace them, I know modern cash desks are not simple, but it's still possible to train someone in relatively short period of time to help you or replace you when you have vacation or something, I don't have this advantage as CNC programmer, it takes years to learn it to level that you don't destroy that machines.
In the Hungarian cashier's defence, I wouldn't give a shit about anything either if I had to work for a minimal wage 12 hours a day and on top of that had to deal with extremely rude customers... :D
I am a hungarian guy from England and I don't really understand why is it so special at the cashiers (and almost everywhere else)? Third of the money means third of the normal speed 😂 And yeah, it is CENTRAL-Europe, not west, not east. We are so special, we have to be in the centre and you CANNOT say anything else! 😂. Cheers! 🍺
Hi Raf. I am from Canada. I am wandering why did You Go to Hungary. I left the country because the kommunist system was there. But I am planning to go back Because the Present government . The Hungarian government dont let The emigrant people go in the country. Na thats way I will go back to my country. Even i will not get the same income what i get here. But there are the piece full Life. Do you have any skills ? If yes Why you dont using that ? Talk to me please. I have lots things what i am taking back to Hungary and I will teach Jung peoples.
1) depends which supermarket you go to. 2) having a landclimate automatically means less rain, hotter summers and colder winters. 3) though i can understand the shock, it just shows how entitled and spoiled people are in western-europe. until you live the life of a hungarian and stop acting like an expat, you jave no idea. Hungarians generally dont go to Beckett's for a drink
I don't think Western European people are necessarily spoiled. The cost of living is way higher in The Netherlands than it is in Hungary. I just got back from Hungary, I can know. On an international level the Euro has a way higher value than the Forint, which means that internationally, Dutch people are seen as richer than Hungarians, but domestically, the difference is smaller than it might appear when calling out the numbers.
@@mcmeyer1785 you are wrong. i live in austria and hungary. hungarian supermarkets are more expensive than austrian ones and dutch are generally cheaper than austrian. also wages are higher in holland. when general wages are 3x higher in austria as they are in hungary, i dont have to say anything about the difference to holland. it may be said, that holland is expensive to live in, however one cannot compare the 2 just like that. with the REAL average wage for low income earners in hungary being about 500€, westerners ARE spoiled. yes, the forint is weaker than the euro. it also means that the price of imports go up substantially. just been to Lidl the other day and bought some icecream. i remember the box costing 700huf before and now the price is 900huf. btw the same box costs the equivalent of about 650huf in austria. again, as long as a westerner has not lived the life of a hungarian with an average wage, you have no idea
Nem hívnék senkit sem elkényeztetettnek csak azért mert gazdagabb országban nőtt fel... Úgy beszéltek mintha az ő hibája lenne, hogy nem magyar és nem tudja. Inkább örülnünk kéne neki mert én őszintén senkinek sem ajánlom, hogy magyar legyen... Nem valami kifizetődő 🙃😅
@@bartduynstee1577 They are not spoiled just Hungary is a shithole and the only thing you can do here is to suffer. And I am saying this as a Hungarian.
Hungarian kids learn in school the difference between a country next to the sea and a country far from the sea side... so they just don't get surprised if there is too much rain somewhere else
So, now you get why: "Hungarians get free money from the EU" is BS. Educated workforce, working for 30% of the money U could earn in NL plus the market where you can sell sht you would throw away in NL...
The first example (cashier) is not a relaxed thing here in my opinion, more like a burnt-out thing. Also you say the salary for third example, and I think from that experience you can calculate how "much" a cashier maybe earns here, which can also result in them being slow and burnt-out.
It was really nice but I was lol when u talked about that we are more relax than people from Netherland :D it's funny because I don't think we see us as relaxed.And for example for me if I travel to Italy they are really relaxed :D thank you for the video it was nice
Hungary looks and sound beautiful and so culturally rich. My only restriction is that unlike the gentleman, I would not rejoice in the lack of rain. I live in Florida, which in the winter is very dry. It hardly ever rains. Every day, it is the same weather, all the time. You end up missing other daylights, and the sound of the rain in nature. Maybe it is a question of temperaments
Same deal. Thanks to ancestry I have easier access to Hungary, but I've grown up used to rainy weather through 2/3rds of the year. Couldn't imagine living in such a dry place.
The last point is why Hungarian people tend to move out from this country as fast as possible. This especially true if you aren't living in the capital city Budapest. Outside of Budapest you are guaranteed to get less salary.
As a Hungarian I would give half an arm (lovely Hungarian expression btw) for the wonderful Dutch weather! :D Hungarian summers suck. Give me cold. Now. It's only May and I already hate it. In fact, I start hating the next summer around the 1st of September. xD I think I might have been misplaced before birth. :D
Ember nállunk 2 hete fagyott minden 🤣 mostmeg elolvadok olyan rohadt meleg van, Magyarországon az időjárás ilyen egyszer lent egyszer fent módban van minden egyes hónappan Emlékszem, pár éve nállunk húsvétkor havazott 😂
@@insecurebee Igen, mellesleg a kedvencem mikor asszem 17/18-ban ütöttük a -20/25 Celsiust, egy héttel későbbb +5/10 volt... EZ MI? O_o (Ezért áldás magyarnak lenni :D )
@@ItzLew Ez a medence effektus. A sziget effektus ellentétje. Az óceán mérsékli a hőingást. Ezért van mondjuk Angliában nyáron hűvösebb és télen kevésbé hideg, mint Európában. Nálunk pont a fordítottja van. A hegyek körülöttünk csapdába ejtik a hideget és meleget, ezzel felerősítve azokat.
Actually the correct translation of the expression is "I would give one arm". (Mert magyarul a "fél" kéz/láb/szem azt jelenti, hogy a kettőből csak az egyik van meg...
It's funny because the salary for this type of job is normally halfway between what you expected and what you got offered. Even if you don't have the experience in this area you are a native Dutch speaker who also speaks English so they should have offered you more especially by a company like BP.
I know about salary thing is really not high in hungary but doesn't it even out with costs of living in general ? (in your experience as you lived in both country)
I can say you that all the things are slowly getting more expensive here but the salary doesn't match with the higher prices. For example, our neighbour tends to go to Austria to shopping because the prices are lower there.
I've been to the Netherlands many times over the years and yes I love it. Everything is in walking distance, language is slightly difficult to learn and the nightlife is amazing. I've never been to Hungary before, but seen videos and photos. All I know is the language is difficult to learn and its a beautiful country. Can anyone tell me if tourist attractions are nearby the cities and if the euro is accepted?
Being in the Netherlands or living in the Netherlands are surely not the same. But hey, come and find out. Lets see what you think of the Netherlands then....