That is such a practical video and clears up one of the most often quoted negatives about EV's "What if you don't have a drive?" Thanks Jack for making this so logical.
Gotta be honest, if you live in a reasonably dense city, it's not that unusual to have to walk ten minutes to where you parked your car just because parking was hard to find the previous day.
I am lucky enough to have a driveway with a charge but currently only have a PHEV (limited options for a 7seater) but I am so excited to find out the Fully Charge Live will be only 5 mins away from me in my home town of Harrogate! Really looking forward to it as I hope to get an EV very soon!
Great video and yes, it can be done...We live in the south of France, and don't have a way to charge in in our parking area. There are three public chargers fairly close to our home: 1) at the train station, a ten min walk. 2) at the grocery store (LeClerc) which is about 20 min walk. 3) at grocery store (LIDL) which is 20 min walk. LIDL charges per kWh. LeClerc gives the first 15 minutes free at their charger, then you pay by kWh. The train station charges per minute (which is bad, as it takes twice as long if another car is plugged in). Needless to say, we choose LeClerc and we do most of our weekly shopping there. We don't often have to sit and wait, the charge while shopping is sufficient for our general driving pattern. It's good marketing on their part. We've had our EV for over a year and this has worked out fine for us.
Great video Jack. Probably a bit London focused, but we need to see this spreading more and more to towns and other cities!! It’s all about councils to be open minded and see this as a necessity…, especially when the government out millions for this and very few councils used that money… But when you do Councils…, please ask first where to install them and make sure they are maintained!! With the current climate that we are in at the moment and how society is becoming so polarised and rude and disrespectful…, I would worry about leaving my car plugged in 10 mins away…. 😳
I’m a homeworker/business user and drive for work. Employer making us go hybrid or EV and has installed a handful of PodPoint chargers at my nearest office which is 20mins/7miles away but they charge staff for using them. I have an EV on order and was looking to get a wall box but have found out I’m on a looped supply and my DNO want to quote me for unlooping my mains supply - they’ve probably got pound signs in their eyes - £££ - so I’m now wondering if it’s a cheaper option to use public chargers rather that commit to the cost of a wall box and digging up my driveway, which my wife will be less than keen on…
I planned to go out and purchase a conventonal hybrid tomorrow. But perhaps I should consider an EV. Hmmmm. I'm in Lisbon Portugal. Not sure we have the charging infrastructure, but we do have more than I thought.
sitting in the car of an evening at a rapid charger is fine if you have something downloaded to watch on your device, a long phone call to make to family, or a bunch of emails to delete (I mean read). You'd be sat at home watching TV, making the call anyway on the laptop anyway.
In London there are lots of charging points, but as soon as you leave London they become rarer. I'm just outside, the only one within walking distance is a supermarket charging point with a 2 hour limit. Best not to overuse the rapid charger network since it reduces the life of the battery.
I've not done an analysis, but could public charging not be free or heavily subsidized with load leveling services provided by V2G? The trade off would be no need to build infrastructure for peak consumption.
haha - this video apply only to countries who even bother to build public chargers. And even if you found some charging place, the price is like 6 times higher that residential.
The local council issue is frustrating as hell , I've been in discussions with my local council for over 12 months about allowing me to install a cable gully ( same as kerbo in this video) They haven't said "no" but won't say yes. To make matters worse i live at the end of a cul de sac so the installation wouldn't cause any issues. Life would be so much easier with a cable gully and not having to looking for working public chargers, I'm seriously starting to think this EV world isn't for me. I could be back to the pollution producing fossil fuel soon, As a side note on the councils website it states its looking to go much greener this year...total BS
In the Dutch provinces of Noord-Holland, Flevoland, and Utrecht. You can request an on-street charger via MRA-e if there is none within 300 meters of your home or work. (And I'm pretty sure that's possible in other provinces too) With current energy prices, it's even cheaper than charging at home.
Don't forget workplace charging Jack. For some people without at-home charging options, they can just charge conveniently in their employer's car park while at work. There are lots of incentives to encourage their employer to install chargers too.
The downside there is you're using peak-rate, commercial tariff electricity, unless you're on the night shift or the factory has solar (or is a hydro dam). It's still cheaper than giving you petrol coupons of course.
my company has one a deal with Genie nd 11p kwh for 7kw charging The problem ?? well I WFH ha ha .. just got an EV so will be going in next week to charge up whilst I wait for EV charger at home to be installed
One thing you didn’t cover is cost. Charging at home overnight is 7.5p an hour. The public chargers in Hackney are 8x the cost. It’s an insane disparity that makes or breaks ev ownership.
We'd like to thank Jack and the Fully Charged crew for this wonderfully balanced, positive and informative video. We are very proud of whgat we've achieved with Co Charger but isn't a silver bullet - there aren't any and this vid hits the real message right on the head: don't let a lack of a home charge point put you off EVs. There are great solutions out there!
Great news but still too much hassle for me. I spend 5 mins at the petrol station and I'm good for 400miles, road tax £30. For now that's about £65, the equivalent EV will cost about £40. For a year it's 65x12 = 780 with my use. 40x12 = 480 780-480= £300 more per year for the ICE My car cost £4000 and equivalent EV will be £12000 if you are lucky, and pray that the batteries are OK. 12,000-4000 = £8000 more for the EV 8000/300= 26.5 years So the higher initial outlay for an EV will take over 26 years to be covered by the extra fuel cost of an ICE. Even if you double my fuel cost it will still take 13 years to break even with an EV. I'll stick with my trusty ICE thanks.
Got to laugh that you just gloss over that you have to park yoir riduculouy expensive car a kilometer away just to keep it charged. Ridiculous! Such a faff. My key take away is that I will be sticking with my highly efficient diesel and keeping the convenience of being able to refuel and do 600 miles between refuels while you drink expensive coffees and walk in the rain to collect your car.
It's not just "EV Haters" who would object to pavements being cluttered with charging cables. I use an EV and would strongly object to cables strung over pavements.
I know several diabled people with EV's (short range MG ZSEV's) they need to recharge every 2 or 3 weeks. they do it by going to pubs with chargers installed. plug in and go and have a nice Sunday lunch while the car charges. Very civilised in my opinion. More Pubs need to install them.
The major issue is that only a tiny percentage of the population actually live in London. The vast majority of us are in smaller towns, or rural villages. Where I am there are literally 8 charging points in total for a population of around 15,000 people. The nearest city is 10 miles away, not a great journey that would flatten your battery, but a hell of a walk when your charge is low! The killer for EVs outside the major cities is still the fundamental lack of investment in a charging network. I can't see where I live getting more charging points in anything like a reasonable timescale. If you're not in a major city, the local councils/authorities just do not have that kind of budget. My area is all communal car parks and minimal lamp posts, so there's no option there. Living 45 metres away from the car park makes for a hell of an extension lead! So, unless billions is piled in to infrastructure, anyone outside London is going to be completely scr*wed in 2030, unless the authorities realise that the majority of us do NOT live in bl**dy London!
I was ok like jack until the explosion in numbers of company car EVs last year with massive batteries and then it became near impossible to find a charger and I went back to a diesel after 1.5 years of EV ownership - depends where you live but it was completely unmanageable for me
As a "company car driver" (mobile technician) most mileage is not near what would be classed as "EV exclusive" parking. It's from/ to the customer, on motorway or trunk roads, then parking on customer premises. Those of us who do work in a city either use public transport or won't need to charge due to the reduced mileage. I would suggest the "McCharge" type infrastructure is where most business loading would occur (other fast food charging will be available....) . EDIT Just to say... "The cars with massive batteries" won't need to charge.
I’ve been an EV owner for 3.5 years. We have street lamp based chargers in Portsmouth and Southsea where I live and I have 4 near my home. One of them opposite my home. My EV is my personal car as well as my driving school car. My business relies on it getting charged. Charging on street has been reliable. In a city where off street parking is rare it can be easier getting a charge than parking an ICE car.
@Richard Nedbalek they aren't that common in the UK yet. But hopefully will be soon, since people can request them and they are (relatively) easy to install. I don't suppose there are many areas in the USA that need it since the country is so suburban. But seems necessary for the old cities (NY, Boston, Philly, San Fran).
I live in Australia where the charging infrastructure is rubbish, but even so, not having a home charger (at least in a city) is not a problem. We just shop where we can charge, often for free, so pretty much whenever we’re shopping, we’re charging. That keeps the car topped up pretty well and for very little cost.
Any link to that curb-o thing. I’ve seen local issue where people have cables across a footpath or in a tree. Wondered if local council would approve it
You live in London and have a Polestar 2? Seen that video where Robert describes driving around London in a barge/supertanker sized car even if it is an EV, as something not good! I also like how a lot of these solutions are London centric, maybe go up North to some of the poor communities? Or try here in Wrexham, where many of the public chargers are knackered most days or way too expensive, so everyone goes to Tesco and sometimes it's rammed! Loving that idea with the groove for the cable!
As always Jack - enjoyable and informative. I live in a city in Canada (Toronto) and our public network is an omnishambles. 1 DC fast charger exists within 5 km of my home. And maybe 10 level 2 chargers - but you have to hunt them. BUT even with this paltry situation I can find the electricity I need (and retain the electric smug).
I also live in Toronto, the situation here is so bad I decided it wasn't feasible to buy an EV since I cannot charge at home so I bought a hybrid for now.
@@quixomega I'm not sure it is so bad that one has to default to a hybrid but i understand the temptation. Looking at the map you can see how the chargers are almost exclusively pooled in the downtown core. In some ways this makes sense for commuters coming from out of the city - but if you live in a condo in outside the core, or you street park - this could be a very frustrating situation. Without a doubt we need to do better with the charging infrastructure.
yeah would never have bought my ev if i didn't have a driveway. still wouldn't. i believe i'm in the large majority. what's the stat; 50% people who drive don't have a driveway. for most, not being able to charge when you want in a short period will always be a challenge and is understandably seen as going backwards in transport. reduces motivation to go electric, to say the least.
Isn't regular rapid charging bad for the long term health of a battery? As a new ev owner without home charging I'm looking for convenience at the least cost but without harming my battery. Any advice welcome.
I think the difference is that charging may have to be a more deliberate and planned event instead of what we’ve become accustomed to with ICE and being able to spontaneously fill up.
I'd say the opposite. Charging will be comparable to parking in a city and paying for parking (or for the old gits, "feeding a meter"). You will just plug in and graze charge when you stop, whenever you stop, without thinking. You will always have to make "a deliberate journey" to fill an ICE.
@@rogerstarkey5390 exactly. If lots of cars have the contactless charging or even the Sono Sion drip charge via solar, we'll have fleets of cars rarely hitting the forecourts.
@@rogerstarkey5390 hopefully in the future it turns out to be that commonplace. But I think right now there is a distinct difference in how one has to go about filling up their vehicle.
Depends on location. When on holiday in Italy or France, I really needed an app to search for a charger. But at home in the Netherlands, almost every street has some chargers, my street even has 8 of them for just 2 small blocks. So yeah, charging is more convenient then making a detour to a gas pump.
Great video. Very informative. I really wanted to purchase the Volvo XC40 PHEV. But in Northern Ireland. We’re years behind the rest of the UK in regards availability of charging points. The infrastructure is so poor. So needed up getting a Mild Hybrid petrol car with no plug-in requirements. Sad reality of the variation across the UK.
Jack, this video along with Robert's renewable energy videos should be mandatory watching for all local councils and government politicians. Keep spreading the good word!
Love that! So much of this stuff seems so ridiculously obvious to those of us who own EVs that it's easy to forget how many people - including some in decision-making positions - aren't clued up on the basics
Agreed Geoff. Some Local Authorities seem completely oblivious to the fact they are eligible to access Government grants to cover much of the cost of installing public charging infrastructure. Plus there are grants available to Local Councils to fund the *complete* install of grids in pavements, to allow charge cables to pass beneath the surface of the pavement, for those who live in properties without a driveway.....
@@6chhelipilot I disagree, it's not great but go to Spain for woeful! I have multiple Rapid and standard chargers within a couple of miles, at 3 or 4 supermarkets I often use, at a pub/restaurant , and at a local car park near many amenities...
@@bellshooter Same here in California. There are 10+ rapid charging stations within 5 miles of me, including a multi-stall EA station at the Target in Rancho Santa Margarita and a Tesla Supercharger at the Shops at Mission Viejo. About half as many as there are gas stations and 3 times as many as there are hydrogen stations (which I currently use).
@@6chhelipilot Woeful some in places, perhaps. Around Kendal there are chargers at several supermarkets, and even one by the register office. At Sainsburglary there are two Podpoint 7kW chargers, and all the rest are faster. I don't often see all the chargers in use at any one spot.
Watching this video a year later and the charging issues remain. Using the public chargers is pain, people reporting that charging points are faulty or having to queue to use them for 30mins+ and it cost more than running an older ICE car. Charging at home unless you have a drive is almost impossible where I live and the council are not willing let you install anything like two solutions you mentioned. The over head or cutting a channel for the cable in the path. Don’t get me wrong I am not anti EV, I would actually love one. With my current commute and lifestyle it would work. But one they cost to much to buy in the first place and I can’t charge at home. In an ideal world, I would want solar panels on my roof, with a battery storage system and use the energy generated from that to charge a EV.
Currently driving an i3 (company car) and charging it solely at work, kinda helps that my job is designing EV chargers so we have a lot of them at the office to plug into but still... companies with on site parking should all have as many of their parking spaces have EVSEs as possible, will take a huge chunk out of the number of cars that will even need on street parking which'll help the people who cant charge at work as their nearest on street chargers will be more likely free day to day.
There are 6.5million street lights in the uk of which most are on streets currently occupying double lines. Let’s be generous and assume they all can be converted and miraculously the cabling to power light bulbs is man enough to support 3KW/h chargers. There could be as many as 3.25 million chargers not bad added to the 17 million homes with drives could provide 19million chargers. Almost enough to charge all the EVs over night.
Yet again - a host who's incapable of talking about and talking to that majority of non-city (eg. suburban) EV owners who do - or could do - 90%-plus of their charging/topping up in their driveways or at their workplace. When do any so-called "journalists" ever tour surburbia and talk to that vast majority of residents who live in semi-detached or detached houses with driveways?! Answer: NEVER!! Paul G
Nice one Jack. I can't charge at home but did my research on ZapMap and decided to go for it with an ev a few weeks ago. Started off using sip charging at Tesco but we shop so quickly it wasn't really worth the hassle. Then we spent a pleasant Sunday lunchtime in our local Premier Inn with a ginger beer whilst it charged to 80%on their rapid BP Pulse charger. Found that to be very good value once the bp card arrived and discovered we could save money shopping at the Aldi on the same site so it did us a favour in more ways than one. I got so engrossed finding my way round the shop the first time that the car was at 100% by the time I got back. Pleased to report that our Ioniq 38kWh suggested we would get 216 miles on the full charge after four or five weeks driving so we must be doing something right. I'm working on our Green councillors to get a slow charger fitted near to us in the village but they're not having much luck persuading their colleagues as yet. I'm sure it'll happen eventually. Research and persuasive powers are what you need to get charged it seems!
Do give Co Charger a look. Even if there's no Host in walking distance from your home (the chances are pretty good that there is) you can set up a free account in a couple of minutes and get notified when a Host sets up nearby.
@@cocharger4630 thanks, I will. At one stage I did have the app on my old phone but as I hadn't got an ev at that point and my phone was needing space I had to uninstall it. 👍
The cost of many charging stations tho. Makes it sooooooo expensive. 85p per kw! Just robbery. I like going out at night in the car. Right when they give cheap rates
One major problem with on street charging, is that some of the kids where I live think it's a great laugh to unplug cars which are charging during the night, so you would wake up to a car that hadn't been charged. Is there a standardised way to lock the charge cable onto the charge sockets so you can only remove it if you have a key? If not, it could be a good idea for a standard lock to be designed.
When a car is charging the plug [plugs for untethered chargers] is locked into the socket. New EV owners probably have more issues getting the plug out of the socket than any other problem until they find out the correct procedure. Read the manual or watch an appropriate RU-vid video.
I have had an EV for 18 months .If you dont dont further than range its easy but if you do it is a nightmare unless you get a car with 250 miles real range and DC fast charging. dont forget if its too hot,too cold,raining,windy or uphill you range will be reduced. i have a ZE40 with a real range of approx 150 miles and i recently went to edinburgh-it was a living hell. 1.charge to full before we set off - usual charger in use so wasted time going to plan b 2.charged half way on M6 (couldnt be arsed to come off the motorway) that was over an hour due to my partner panicing that we wouldnt get on another charger. 3.charged in scotland (10 miles to go with onlly 25 showing and panic set in again) 4.charged in scotland. i must say their infrastructure is miles better than UK. mostly free or 0.30p pkw. 22AC chargers everywhere 5.charged on m6 coming home - over an hour once again 6.charged on lidl pod point at home town- low battery and needed shopping took over 6 hours so 2 extra hour each way If you have a home charger you set off full and only need enough charge to get home.instanly removing 2/3 charges.If you got £50k+ to get an ev with decent range and more imprtantly DC charging then cool if not wait i would wait a few years. i move house in a month and cant wait i bought a charger 2 months ago....
When I got my EV ~4 years ago, there was minimal charging infrastructure around, and I don't have a garage. So, I was having to either slow charge from a standard power point in my parking lot or walk 10 minutes to a L2 charger (2-3 locations to choose from). TBH, managing it all was a fun game I had to play in my head, but I had the freedom and ability to do it. Since then, local charging infrastructure has come quite a ways, and I now have an L2 charging station in my building. But I can see how this approach could be quite inconvenient and impractical for someone else.
My EV on the road charging experience hit a new low on Saturday, I was reduced to having to pick out which pictures had boats in them. And Wetherby major charging hub had about half of the chargers not working along with tempers flaring as to who was waiting first. One of the chargers proudly claiming dual charging simply refused to work when I tried it. And BP Pulse at the Fox and Grapes not working, again.
Picking random on street charging points with no allocated space is going to cause rage from residents who hate people parking outside their house or in that spot they regularly use. I can see a lot of vandalism of cables while your car is out of sight streets away.
In areas that have EV's They are cutting and stealing charge cables from cars that are actively charging. Where my buddy lives theres 50 houses, no driveways and 3 street lamps. They often have to park a few streets away.
I've had my MG5 for almost a year now, no home charger. I tend to charge at work. There's a location that has 12 bays within a 10min walk of work which is free on Chargeplace Scotland. Tends to be full when I'm done my shift, and I usually don't need to charge again død almost a week. Failing this, I use Bonnet on the local Ionity or Osprey... Which I still have a shit ton of free referral credit for. I rarely pay to charge my car
This is something that I have been concerned about as someone without a driveway who uses their car for work. As such, I do a lot of miles (around 70 - 100 miles per day). My main concern is that with all the charging networks in the UK being in private hands I would expect the cost of charging to be significantly higher than charging at home. Unfortunately I am going to have to pour some cold water on this guide as road side charging points are very hard to find outside of London. In fact, I have never even seen one.
Very true. I live in one of the largest cities in the UK and my nearest street charging is not walking distance from my house. Without a drive I would have to sit around on a fast charger a couple of times a week. Can't complain too much though as currently EVs get free parking in the city center and there's fast chargers there.
mmmm Shell have just increased their rates to about 80p a kwh and most EV's do about 4 miles per kWh. I don't have home charging, and at those prices my diesel car doing 48mpg is cheaper to run.... Or maybe the same if you factor in oil changes. The incentive for me to switch is miles away... Plus I drive estate cars, on not too many EV estate options yet at a decent price.
I do exactly the same, I have a point A, B & C within 10 minute strolls from my home. And since I do drive a ton of kilometers I use fast chargers quite often. Luckily on my way to work (which can be wherever in the Netherlands) I always cross a lot of fast chargers and if I have a few minutes left before I need to go to work I just pop by a fast charger and give it some extra juice. Btw. In the Netherlands, if you don’t have your own driveway and no public charger within 300 meters of your home the municipality will arrange a public charger for you. So in a couple of months I will have a new (closer) option to charge. Driving an EV does make you plan all your trips a bit more but I really don’t mind doing so. If I can do it (I drive on average 1000 km a week) than everybody can do it. Thanks for the great video once again!
This video didn't convince me let alone convincing an EV-denier. Walking 10 mins every day isn't suddenly reasonable just because you put a positive spin on it. It's only people who are trying to be blindly positive about EVs that will fall for that. If you have a petrol car and live somewhere where you need to park 10 mins away then it's a negative. You might form a routine around it but for most people it's still really bloody annoying. How people are suddenly convinced that it's a fun thing to do just because it's to charge your car is motivated reasoning. If you live somewhere that most people generally need to park 10 mins away then chances are that the limitations for finding a charging spot nearest your home is often going to mean that someone needs to walk much further. You don't need to manipulate the facts to suit your narrative. It's ok to say that there are still issues with ev ownership for many people. Acknowledge the problem then focus on finding a solution instead of ignoring the problems and saying it's all great. Here in Australia I don't think the infrastructure is as good but even in other parts of the UK it's probably not great. Here in Brisbane there are many apartment buildings with limited parking spaces and they weren't built with EV charging in mind so they need to upgrade their parking lots to include charging that either gets billed directly to your apartment somehow or that you pay for on the spot.
Thanks for a very helpful video. This is also helpful for those who are holding back from installing a charge point at home until they have actually bought an electric car and need something to tide them over while they wait for theirs to be installed. One thing you could add when do an update video on this is spend a couple of minutes talking about what people who live in blocks of flats with off-street parking can do and what they can suggest to their management company to install. In some cases parking on-street to charge a car could be expensive just for the parking alone - particularly if you have your own off-street parking space which is free (or already paid for).
I’m not an “EV hater” I own one, but in most cases footpaths are already cluttered and dangerous for children, the elderly and those with disabilities or visual impairments. Cars already cause enough inconvenience for those who don’t want to travel in them so don’t start littering footpaths with chargers just to support EV adoption that are terribly positioned, leave cables on the path in front of pedestrians or reduce the width of the footpath so buggy’s and wheelchairs can’t get through. EVs should not make public space worse, if they do they’ve completely failed.
A lot of this is all good and well, and trust me, I really would like to upgrade to an EV, but in the town I live in, there are 4 chargers, all at one supermarket, nowhere else. My current daily commute is a 46 mile round trip and my workplace does not have charging bays. To make matters worse, I do not have a driveway and my house is off road and up a pathway. This county has a severely lacking EV charging network, the current government do not give a shit.
The elephant on the bank statement is that public chargers cost 5, 6, 7, even 10 times more per kWh, when compared to home charging. And with only around 35,000 public chargers, the roll-out is so glacial that it makes sense to run a small ULEZ compliant petrol car for the foreseeable future, especially if, like me, you have switched to an e-bike for local trips under 10 miles or so. I very rarely use the car for a long trip, but it’s so reassuring to know that, so long as there are petrol stations, my range is unlimited, and (crucially) very easy to fill up my car without an app, and without having to worry about being fleeced by some speculative operator that wants to charge me many multiples of my domestic electricity tariff. Incidentally, it’s worth bearing in mind that charging a car can use up to 80 times the electricity that an e-bike does, and given that domestic tariffs can be as much as ten times cheaper than public chargers, that works out as costing perhaps as much as 800 times the cost, if you compare a domestically charged e-bike with a publicly charged car. Certainly when everyone is looking at their bills at the moment, this is probably a much bigger difference than most will imagine, not to mention the many tens of thousands saved by keeping an existing petrol car, and investing in an e-bike.
Have you ever wondered about this scenario where, right now Governments all over the world get tax revenues out of the fuel sales to the general public, and that amount is huge in some countries, and when more and more people switch to EV gradually the revenue from fuel sales would decrease and then would come to a point where the Govt starts to increase the electricity cost to balance the revenue loss from fuel. And maybe in my worst nightmare, it may become like charging an EV would cost similar to having an ICE vehicle and filling it with fuel. However if we use Solar panels at Home some of the cost can be managed, but we will still end up using outside chargers often though !!
Thanks for this - I've an EV on order and no driveway; I still have moments when I think I'm crazy but I'll work it out. PS what did you do with Robert - stealing his office and all (and yes I know it's a green screen)?
I think "park 10 minutes walk from your house" isn't going to fly for lots of people. And while overnight street parking will work for some people, and some streets, it won't for everyone. I used to think we should flood all terraced residential streets with lamppost/kerb chargers. But all those trip hazards - I think it would be a real problem if it became widespread. I think there's a lot of people for whom "ABC" - "always be charging" - on low-speed chargers at their destinations would work. Charge while you work, shop, eat out, exercise, worship, watch a film, whatever you do while you're parked away from home. Don't normally expect to be fully charged. Expect your charge to drift up and down. But if you drive 5 miles to the supermarket, charge at 7kW while you shop. 30 minutes gets you ~14 miles, so you've covered your return journey and got a bit extra. Don't go places to charge. Charge at the places you go. For this to work, we need lots and lots of slow chargers in the places where people park to spend time. Not rapid chargers -- you don't want to have to dash out of the cinema to unblock a charging bay.
You may have mentioned this, so if you did sorry I missed it, but the other thing that is becoming more common is provision of chargers at workplaces, so if you can't charge overnight at home, you can charge whilst you are at work during the day.
You need to get out of your London centric point of view to appreciate just how poor the public charging network is. There is no chance that you are going to have a place to park to recharge over night in my area of the world; zero. I love the idea of electric, but without a driveway it is not viable for me or millions and millions of others yet.
Jack, I found this to be one of your best vids as a presenter. Sometimes LESS is MORE, you're extremely likable here, and the knowledge you're sharing feels accurate/trustworthy. I hope to see much more of this side of you.
I liked it too, and I think he has been getting better and better in general. Btw, why doesn't Rob present much anymore? Also i just realized he was in Red Dwarf! 😲
❤ Awesome 👏🏽 video! I’m from India 🇮🇳 and though our charging network is not yet developed it’s amazing to know this is so easily possible. Most cities here have a parking space problem and this certainly shows how things can work out. I’m sharing this with EVSE OEMs, & CPOs. Thank you! 🙏🏽
Yep, I charge without my own home charger using the public network. Charging cost outside my house on a Ubitricity charger when I ordered my Tesla in March was 0.22p kWh. I finally got the Tesla delivered last month, and yesterday the price to charge increased to 0.55p kWh. Its a 5kW charger as well, so it's pretty slow but now the price difference between a 250kW and 5kW charger isn't that different.
FYI. kWh is the total energy delivered. kW is the power - the rate the energy is delivered. So it's 0.22p/kWh (energy) and your battery has a capacity of e.g. 55kWh or 80kWh. The chargers have a rate: 250kW or 5kW. Hope that helps. You could think if it as: kWh is like gallons. kW is like gallons per minute, and also like horsepower.
@@t3chnno Might as well just charge at Shell Recharge locations or at a Tesla supercharger. Ubitricity is just going up and up, I think it went up to 49p last month, and now to 55p so quickly.
I’m here a little off topic… we’re trying to build a better world here and that goes for more than just the clean energy transition. Another big step will be Jack and Robert no longer using self deprecating humor ❤️ you’re not idiots, you’re great and you’re doing amazing work!
It’s true that things are changing. I live in a town of around 30,000 people. The biggest issue here is that the older part of the town that I live in having a driveway is impossible for most people and due to the way the houses are laid out you can’t run a cable neither. The town has two major supermarkets and neither offer charging, neither do Aldi or Lidl not even the M&S food store does. Most of the chargers in the town are just 7kW chargers and the rapid chargers top out at 50kW funnily enough at a petrol station. Things are starting to change though as both McDonald’s and Starbucks are getting chargers installed and by the looks of it they will be much faster than 50kW and if one of the supermarkets manages to get one as well then I think owning an EV here will become practical as most people in the older part of town would live within a mile of a modern rapid charger.
Doesn’t work for those of us whose office IS their car. Food delivery drivers for services like DoorDash and Uber Eats (case in point: yours truly) are of course cases in point on that front.
It certainly exists. My brother mostly charges his car at his work car park. He works at an Amazon warehouse, and they have something like 100 chargers in their car park, with the electric connections to add more as more employees need them,
This is so city biased, the vast majority of owners without home chargers in the country depend on public chargers which are few and far between , often out of order or in use.
I live in Denmark. First 1.5 years of owning an EV I didnt have my own charger. I needed to charge 1-2 times a week. Had several options: charging at work, rapid charging at a local supermarket, or using a couple of slow chargers 1 km away. Not once did I need juice for my car in that period. That being said I love having my own charger now 😆
This maybe a very sumb question, but let's say i park my car near a charging pole and let it charge overnight, is there some mechanism to prevent someone from unplugging the car?
I'm a polestar 2 owner Love the car Hate the infrastructure/charging my car -i'm from Bolton with only options to use rapid chargers. Sometimes have to wait over a hour just to use one of the chargers available.
My advice to anyone thinking of going with Ubertricity , is DON’T. I have had nothing but trouble with these people ever since day one. Put it miles away from my flat, every time i plugged in the fuse blew out. Then after 3 years of complaints about when it was going to be fixed, they got fed up and turned it off. Like I said DON’T.
My wife has a Renault Zoe 40, she's had it for two years, we don't have a home charger, we can't even get closer than 20 m from our house, she has covered well over 12,000 miles, roughly costing about £30 max (extra conservative) but she charges at work for using the free public chargers, Easily doable, and she only charges once or maybe twice a week. I'm saving for an MG 5 because I want an estate.
I live in central Bristol and my nearest publicly available slow charger is a 30 min walk away. The council also forbid running a charging cable over the pavement in any way, including a cable gully - Bristol City Council really need to up their game...
Try asking the question that I did at work - "Can we have a charger installed here?" 4 months later there were two Zappi Type 2 chargers [sorry "EVSE" equipment for the proper name] installed. It cost the company nothing, via govt grant, and charging is free. Btw, I'm not an executive, nor on the board. Just an ordinary employee. I don't have a driveway. So try asking. If they refuse you're no worse off than if you hadn't asked. I have been emailing my Southampton city council for the best part of 5 years, to try to get residential EVSEs. We have residential car parks where I live. One or two per car park, linked to one's electricity account, would entirely solve the problem. Will they do it or something like it? Not a chance in hell. I'm told to drive into the city centre 5 miles away and charge there. Good eh? Thank goodness for the company I work for.
Nice video, but we sadly have problems still, the Ubitricity chargers just don't work 90% of the time, and Source London is eye-wateringly expensive with their per minute rather than per kWh charges. We are lucky though that there are plenty of chargers at the local supermarkets which manage most of our needs along with a bank of fast chargers in Woolwich that were recently installed.
If ALL employer would be strangled by greenwashing politics to do the absolute utmost, a lot of appartment dwellers could charge their cars at work. And with commuting usually a short distance affair, a large part of PHEV mileage would be charged at work. Way more than 50% for such users.
