Living with The GV80: The Good and the Bad 

Did that fix the front sensor going off? This is happening with my gv70 after my front camera sustained a small chip

The crack on the sunroof probably happened because you close the sunroof window while driving the car with all the other windows closed. It is normal, The crack will happen because of diffrantial pressure. The right way to do it is to open up doors windows while closing the sunroof.

@@haithamalhemam2026this is goof info. I had a Santa Fe where the piece that held up the sunroof somehow came off. So if I opened glass would hit each other in one corner

I'm glad you and your wife are fine after the accident. The GV80 received a 5 star overall safety rating from NHTSA, so glad that it did its job in protecting you. Can't blame you on going back to the same, since Genesis is starting to become a solid contender in the luxury segment. Moreover, they're starting to mandate their dealer network to build stand-alone dealerships to meet the industry standards within the luxury demographic.

So happy to hear that you're okay, and that there was no doubt you'd get another GV80. We just bought ours today. It's reassuring we made the right decision.

I am happy both of you came out of the accident alive and well.

@@RichWithCars the dealership experience at Hyundai has been a common gripe from from Genesis vehicle owners. Anyone who has had the Lexus experience is spoiled for life. However, these vehicles are great, and Genesis seems invested in creating their own, special, ownership experience.

i hope you sued that ahole and get a fk ton of money.

Saville silver was another choice for me also. But was fortunate enough to get one of the last allocations for this spec (gold coast silver with black interior). Drive it in good health!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for watching and hope you got something out o f it...

The infotainment system took a little to get used to, but now it's easy to navigate....I'm glad you're having a good experience with the service....I think Genesis has been gradually improving....

I'm glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching. 👍

Thanks for watching and your feedback. You're absolutely correct - and I'm guilty as charged on other reviews I've done. The problem is that it's very difficult to perform reviews on cars from a long-term perspective. The reviewer would either have to get a long-term press car or be well off to be purchasing several vehicles to own for at least a year. Otherwise, how could someone expect to get feedback without having the vehicle for at least 6 months to be able to uncover some of the car's gremlins.

Congrats, hope you enjoy it in good health!

Congrats, I'm sure u must be excited to pick it up. It's an awesome SUV. Thanks for watching!👍

Congrats! You're gonna love it. I'm still very impressed with it after 18 months...the Hyundai/Kia/Genesis group is coming out with some really impressive products. Reminds me of the Toyota/Lexus stuff when they came out in 1989....

@@RichWithCars They really are! I have a 2022 G70 - it is amazing! I never thought 5 years ago that I would own a Hyundai/Kia/Genesis product, but will soon have 2!

@@chadwolf8779 agreed. I'm trying to get an Ioniq 5, EV6 or GV60 to review, but impossible to find. Dealers sell them as soon as they hit the floor!

@@RichWithCars I outbid, yes, outbid three other people for my 3.5t 2021 GV80 Asiatic Blue with black interior in May 2021, at Clarksville, Maryland. The four of us had seen it, called ahead, and showed up within minutes of each other. There were other GV80s in the lot, but this was the spec I wanted. I looked for the same features everywhere else, but we could only locate one other one in the East Coast: in New York. Supply was coming in, but 75% of them were pre-ordered. Things looked bleak. I had been looking at the car on RU-vid everyday for 11 months. I was besotted!!!!!!! I trained as a mechanic after my college degree, so I had a really good idea of what I wanted. This vehicle ticked all the boxes. I ended up paying $4,800 above mrsp (dealer markup), and I have no regrets till today. As a 52yr old, I was coming from Saab, Jaguar, Mercedes S-class, then this very stylish and very high-functioning luxury SUV. I drove it to Baltimore the next day, and while in the tunnel, my half-wound windows went up by themselves! And I saw a message on my screen saying the car "detected poor air quality and the ac was going into air recirculation mode!!!!!" This is not even in the manual! Coming out of the tunnel, my ac switched back to normal, and I lowered the windows by myself again. Maybe if I had waited a bit longer it would have done so by itself. I was already accustomed to all the bellflower, whistles and tricks before I purchased it. Lol. So it was a cruise from the start till this minute. I am the happiest when I am driving my GV80. Best car I ever bought. No problems so far, and will be two years in May 2023. I am one deliriously happy customer. Now my partner wants a GV70. Skeptical at first, but now, a believer❤❤❤❤❤. I'm in love with Genesis!

I have g70 and gv70 “ Great cars … I Canada - we get amazing dealer service …

Can't disagree with you. Lexus owners are very loyal - I've always had a Lexus in my garage - including now. My 3 years with the GV80 will be coming up, so I'll see if I can make an updated 3 year ownership video. Thanks for watching and for your feedback!

Thanks for watching, glad it was helpful. Good luck on the purchase!

Thanks for watching! If you haven't given it a test drive, I highly recommend you do before pulling the trigger. Unfortunately I never tried out the 2.5T, so I cannot comment on the driving impressions.

Thanks for the info - I'll def keep that in mind!👍

Apart from the issues I mentioned, the car has been amazing. Very happy with it. Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching!👍

Thanks for watching and glad it helped!

Thanks for watching!🙏

Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful!

Thanks for watching!

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I guess it's a Genesis thing then....kinda disappointing tbh.

That's a first that i hear of this. I'll definitely take you up on your recommendation and look down on the surface next time it happens. Out of curiosity, how do you know this? Thanks 🙏

@@RichWithCars I've worked for luxury car brands for years... take a look at the asphalt next time. You'll laugh when you figure it out. It will be an "well, I'll be damned" moment. I do have a request... if you were hard on the folks at the dealer about this, man up and apologize. We all need to be better humans. Good luck and God bless!

@@patricklsolis interesting! I'll definitely check out the surface next time I'm stopped at a red light. In regards to your request, no worries - will do, even tho I wasn't tough on them. Though my previous service advisor didn't know what she was talking about, and gave me a deflecting response to my inquiry/concern.

I can attest to having the sensors go off while sitting in a fast food drive-thru line...on more than one occasion...at different restaurants. So traffic sensors are not the only culprit.

@@craigschannel9461 I wonder what it is then....ultra sensitive sensors?

Hopefully, otherwise that could be dangerous...

@@RichWithCars Turns out it was in need of a software update. After the update my infotainment center went blipp, blacked out came back on and all my radio stations and seat settings were deleted. Now they have to work on that.

I can't blame you on that and completely agree about the sunroof situation. I went to 3 different dealerships and they all denied responsibility due to manufacturer defect. Quite disappointing tbh

I'm glad you're enjoying your G70. I still think that the sensor issue is a manufacturer's defect, as it spans across all their models. Nevertheless, I still enjoy my GV80.

Thank you for watching!

Glad to hear that the car has been great so far. But I still believe that our sensors shouldn't be acting up like that...

Thanks for watching! You can try watching one of my other 2 videos on the GV80 to look for the feedback on comfort: 1) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PWkry1VvVlo.html 2) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wVG5zJ3rILM.html

I completely agree. The fact that the majority of them are merged with Hyundai dealerships makes both the sales and after sales experience below par. They've started building stand-alone Genesis dealerships now, but they have a long way to go to catch up to Lexus.

The Genesis GV80 definitely punches above its class. The only caveat is the service experience, as the brand is still in the process of rolling out its own stand alone dealerships

And not sure if I can leave Lexus dealership experience since Genesis doesn't have its own separate luxury dealership, and is still with Hyundai dealership.

The GV80 is really nice. Unfortunately I haven't seen the new RX in person yet, but I hope it sits at the same level as the GV80, since I'm a Lexus fan.

Yes - one massive downside to the Genesis ownership experience is the after sales service. They have improved over the past 6 months, but doesn't rival Lexus. Genesis is now mandating many of its dealers to build stand-alone Genesis dealerships. In fact, my dealer has begun construction on their new Genesis dealership building - will be one of the first in the nation.

@@RichWithCars that would be a game changer. Until then I don't think I can do it. I love the size n style of gv80 but for 60k +, it doesn't have wireless apple car play. That's surprising. The 23 RX is pretty sweet.

@@mig3872 Your Carplay concern is easily rectified for about $100 . . .

Seems like it's an issue with their tech across the entire model linuep. I've gotten feedback from others with the G70 and GV70 that have the same issue.

Thanks for your kind words, much appreciated 🙏 I try to stay away from GM and Ford based vehicles. My bro had to apply the lemon law on his CTS-V and got the mediator to force GM to buy back the car. We also had a Focus ST that didn't fare so well, which we sold after 6 months of ownership. The new G90 is an awesome flagship. Reminds me of what Lexus did back in the late 80's/early 90's with their LS when they entered the luxury market.

That's great to hear. I'm glad you got your issue fixed. Hopefully my replacement is coming in soon.

I was in the exact same position. Generally that's the primary downside of going with Genesis now as an early adopter of the brand. Both the sales and post sales experience alike. As the brand keeps growing and they roll out more stand-alone dealers, it'll improve. I'm one of the fortunate ones that my dealer just opened a stand alone Genesis dealership. Scheduling is only 1½ weeks out now - huge difference!

I'd say Lexus - but the new 350H has a new 4-cyl engine with the hybrid system and it's the 1st gen of the redesigned model. Hard to say. I've had my GV80 for 2 yrs now and haven't had any additional issues since I recorded the video. Personally, I'd go between the Lsxus or the Genesis. Both have been ranked within the top 3 brands in the last 2-3 years in the JD Power reliability study. Check the forums to see if any owners of the latest RX have had any issues. Good luck!

It all depends on how you drive it and what mode you're usually in. I typically leave mine in ECO and I'm averaging about 16.5 mpg. Let's just say it's not the best fuel efficiency for a TT V6

A little late now, it's already been paid. But I asked my insurance and they said it wasn't covered...

Get a new insurance company! Never heard of such nonsense! You should only have had to pay the deductible ! Love the GV80 and hope to have one in the near future!

@@louiscandreva8850 yes I could've done that, but my deductible was $1000. For the $800 I'd save, I didn't want to file a claim....

we also had a huge mystery crack in the sunroof. i found it when i detailed the car. we live in the rock center of the world in phoenix so i'm still not sure but i'll ask the dealer when i take it in for the free oil change. my wife loves her genesis and everyone likes the appearance.

HUD is available and the Prestige trim has it included.

So far, I'd say it's closer to Lexus....

This seems to be a common issue with all Genesis models....

Can you share the link to the article that discusses the cheap glass, please - I'm very curious to read about that....👍

Thanks for the feedback. Not sure if I can go back to the dealer and have them cover something I already paid for. But I definitely appreciate your insight 🙏

About 25k miles.

That shouldn't be happening on any vehicle....especially if you're at least 10 ft away....Genesis hasn't resolved it and apparently it's a commonality across all models...

A fully loaded 3.5T Prestige will run you marginally more - at $73k +/-

You can always pick up a used one . . . lots of low mileage ones to be had, sold by people who are rich enough to trade tearly and who don't rack up lots of miles. One thing is that as the second owner you would not get the free factory maintenance

More like 81k for a 2023. Bought my 3.5T prestige with 22’s today-and it’s gorgeous! Love it! Thanks for the review. Happy to hear you’ve been pleased with it this far.

I haven't had that issue so far. I'm planning for an updated video on other issues I've encountered

Most definitely!

Not sure if it's smoother than the RX...especially with 22's

I've been in RX350's since 2008.... The car never really changed...even the 2023 changes are mostly cosmetic. I do say they're GREAT cars, I never had as much as a burned out tail light. I decided on the GV80 and so far, happy with my decision. I see them equally reliable with the GV80 winning the appearance contest by a large margin. Look around you...every third car is a Lexus RX.....my GV stands out on the road, at the gas station or in my driveway with many compliments... I chose the Saville Silver with the black interior. oh, love the natural wood in the cabin....

Thanks for your feedback. Regardless of what it was, the dealer ended up replacing the camera module. I just found it odd that it would fog up like that. But your explanation could be very plausible. Thanks!

No I have not. Unfortunately I cannot provide any feedback in regards to towing characteristics

😞 sorry to hear that. Should be covered under warranty

That's amazing MPG! Congrats on the vehicle and glad you haven't experienced any issues!

That’s super poor fuel economy! That’s one bad thing in this GV80

Stacked on top of each other - 2 sets over 2 sets I believe so

391 lb-ft and about 5.3 secs to 60mph

@@RichWithCars that's super quick compared to X7. This clears all my doubts to make my decision to buy Genesis. Thank you.

@@naveenverycool1 no worries. If the active safety features like smart cruise and lane keep are important for you, I just released a video on it l, which you can view below: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t_SoS5x6kg4.html

I've test driven the G70 and was quite impressed. Enjoy!

Yes I definitely understand your concern. Initially, the service was atrocious, but over time, I've noticed that it has improved. Also, Genesis is mandating many of its dealers to build stand-alone dealerships. So eventually, the entire after sales experience should improve.

Those 2 SUV's are very different from a performance perspective. Really depends on what you value more - luxury (and reliability) or performance. I can't comment much on the Jag long term ownership, since I don't have that experience. Good luck!

@@RichWithCars thanks! All good with the Genesis tho? No problems ?

@gloxzii3790 no new issues since I made the video. Very happy with it and believe it or not, I still get compliments on it!

@@RichWithCars oh I believe it for sure, it turns my head always so I’m one those ppl🤣. Thanks for the replies, definitely this or gv70 on the top of my list

@gloxzii3790 I'd probably take a closer look at the GV70 3.5T Sport Prestige. You have the same 3.5L TT engine as in the GV80 but in a smaller package, thus quicker. You'll be a little closer to the performance of the SVR (not quite there yet tho), and have very similar luxury and REALLY nice design. I actually prefer the interior layout and materials on the GV70 than the GV80.

Hope you get it soon!

Wow, that's surprising. I'm sorry to read about your troubles with your RX - very uncommon to hear that from Lexus. You won't be disappointed with Genesis....except for maybe their service. Good luck!

Yes I don't disagree. I went to 3 different dealers and they all said it wasn't a manufacturer's defect. Frankly, that's just plain laziness from the dealers, since they would make money from the manufacturer by replacing it under warranty. I would've had to file a complaint directly to the manufacturer, which I don't have the time for.... I don't think the warranty is bad, I truly believe the dealership network (using Hyundai dealerships) for this luxury brand is sub-par

Unfortunately it would be considered under a comprehensive claim, and I have a higher deductible of $1000. Given that this was about $1,800, I didn't want it to affect my future premium.

Wow, sorry to hear that. I went through the exact same situation. Dealer said it was a rock chip - tho I'm not so sure about that - I would've heard it. Curious to know how many other people experienced this

@@RichWithCars I just registered on a Genesis blog site. It seems this is more common than we think. You might want to pull that up and print it out and get reimbursed for the repair you had to make. I will be doing that this Monday when I bring my car to the dealership.

@dmilano56 which blog did u see this on and pls keep me posted on the status of your situation pls. I will do the same once you send me the info. You can shoot me an email: RichAndCars@gmail.com

@@dmilano56 Correct

@@RichWithCars Hopefully Genius reimbursed you it’s a known defect in quite a few. But you wouldn’t have known that with your early model.

That's awesome! Best of luck on the purchase!

I sure hope you didn't buy.

It should, but never tried it. I attempted to use the self parking feature once, and it had a bit of trouble finding a space. I might have been doing it wrong tho.

Thank you for your response

Thanks for the detailed feedback. I couldn't say the fuel efficiency on the GV80 has been great for me, considering it's a TT V6. I've averaged around 17 mpg - no bueno. Thanks, I do try and keep my vehicles in clean and good condition. They did a phenomenal job with the design, especially being their first ever SUV.

GV80 all day long - but I also think it's considerably more expensive

@@RichWithCars I was thinking the same thing GV80 to high in price but the MDX IS Affordable… thanks for the feed back ✊🏿💯

Yes I've noticed. For me it goes off when I'm next to a Ford or BMW

@Rich With Cars everytime I'm near a ford I get a ghost signal saying something is close to me. Even if I'm stopped. Lol

The Genesis GV80 has a 5-year or 60,000-mile general warranty and a 10-year or 100,000-mile powertrain warranty.

Did you end up getting your sensor issue resolved? I'm still dealing with mine. Sometimes it gets so out of hand that I have to turn off the feature, and then I turn it back on. Shouldn't be that way tho....

@@RichWithCars No, I accept this is happening because these other cars are basically sending out a signal,"stay away from this car.":) Whenever I'm behind a Tesla I try to stay as far back as possible at a light, though it still happens. Audi's also cause the alarms to go off as well. You'd think I'm about to crash into the car in front of me.

I have a 2023 G70 and it seems to happen more for me when I'm behind Fords and Jeeps in addition to other luxury vehicles

Crazy how far the entire group has come (Hyundai, Kia, Genesis)

Glad to hear someone else has similar issues (not in a bad way!)...curious to see if you notice that it mainly goes off around BMW's and Ford's.

@@RichWithCars I didn't know when it happened. Now im going to look for it. I'll check back and let you know.

To each their own. I was hoping that Genesis would make the AR GPS view available in the North American market. For some reason, they didn't tho.

Ya, they said it wasn't a common issue, even tho I showed them forum posts from other models in their range showing similar issues. This isn't even remotely as bad as my experience with BMW. Check out my other video with my experience with my F90 M5.

All the time. 93 octane.

@@RichWithCars thank you

@@DavidMacDonald-xs1ut 👍

Really? Is it because they're 22's?

Thats why you're a Hyundai tech...

@@aazjack 🤦‍♂️

Looking to switch this year. Thanks!

Yeah, I'm starting to truly believe that. The chip was there prior to taking it to the dealer.

@@RichWithCars ... if you actually saw the chip prior then that's another story. However I wouldn't put it past a dealer to chip it themselves then show the customer to not cover it. Yesterday was the first time seeing one of these vehicles... very sharp looking SUV. But their reputation for bad failing engines kinda worry me.

@@hmdwn most of the failing engines were on the 2.5L I-4. The 3.5L TT V6 hasn't had many issues.

@@RichWithCars ... define "hasn't had many issues"

Genesis did a phenomenal job with this SUV...

It's kind of funny when I hear the commercial that's fine car my heart races I love just hearing it on the commercial if a gorgeous cart not many women my age know anything about cars I love cars from my childhood I'll be there in a heartbeat if I can get one but I need something in my life real trains

@teresagaut822 never seen a commercial for the GV80....

Ya, it's not great. I'm averaging about 17½ mpg.

Really? If that's the case, then the quality and layers of coats on the GV80 must be low....

You can not take the Prestige with a Matte paint finish through a car wash, which will damage the finish. Matte finishes HAVE to be hand washed!

@bear55811 agreed. That's why I'd never purchase a matte finish car. If I'd ever want a matte finish, then I'd do a matte wrap or Xpel Stealth.

Only applies to the matte finish. I have 23 Matterhorn White GV80, I just take it to a touchless car wash or hand car wash, never any issues with paint. I also ceramic coated the paint and Interior, which probably helps. Paint looks beautiful, thought I'd share, thanks for all your opinions! 😁

@Vu Hoang I have heard some not good things about the GV80's realibity and problems early in the ownership in some cases. For your small sample size, have you had any problems?

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I'm a Lexus enthusiast - and agree that Lexus eclipses over Genesis in regards to dealer support and service. Not sure if the resale value is that bad though. The vehicle is also very solid....

@@RichWithCars Its basically a Hyundai, so yes it’s resale is nowhere near a Lexus or even a Toyota. Just sold a Hyundai Santa Fe, in excellent condition and took it in the shorts. Especially now that used car values have plummeted. Again good luck.

@@kurtwl understood and sorry to hear that....

Yup

Mature is good sometimes 😎

Ya, at the beginning they were quite disappointing, but with time I've noticed improvements with the level of service. Don't get me wrong, they still have a long way to go to match the likes of well established brands like Lexus (from a post sales service perspective)....

Next level!

Wow - I'm surprised to hear that, and sorry you went through so many issues in cold weather. I wouldn't know how it performs in cold weather conditions, as I'm in Florida. Genesis ranked 2nd just under Lexus in the JD Power US Dependability study. I'm both a Lexus and Genesis fan tho....

Sure you did.

Just look at the 2023 JD Power Dependability Study results: www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehicle-dependability-studyvds

To each their own. I don't deny that the BMW would have better driving dynamics, but that wasn't the point of the GV80.

It does! Unfortunately the GV80 is trying to take the Germans head on rather than being the luxury value player undercutting them.

BMW is overpriced for what you get...for as long the GV80 is being around there's nothing negative about them. Don't hate buddy it is what it is....GV80 is being rated 10/10

Why are you comparing a performance SUV to a luxury SUV? Genesis outclasses a BMW X5 easily. Not to mention your outrageous maintenance record. Not every car is about 0-60 times and how much horsepower you have.

You mean drive it to the shop? Let's hear your tone after your warranty expires.

I guess it's a Hyundai thing.

I've had my 2012 Equus for 12 years drive train replaced at 3000 miles engine replacement at 51000 miles air bags replaced twice. Still love driving it. IM hoping they will come out with an all electric g90 car or sedan soon.

@Jumpsuit56 wow, those are low miles to be replacing those components! I believe they already have come out with a fully electric G80: www.genesis.com/us/en/2023/genesis-electrifiedg80.html

@@RichWithCars Yep Hyundai to care of the car rental and gas expensive for my inconvenience.

@Jumpsuit56 ya, at least...but glad they made u whole 👍

Thanks for the advice. I'll look into it, but not sure if the effort is worth it. The cost of an attorney would equal the amount already spent....

@@RichWithCars if it went to court that is true (unless you are awarded court and legal costs) however a letter from a lawyer outlining the facts might yield a positive result without having to go to court and would only cost a relatively small amount. Your choice of course, some things aren't worth the hassle if you have already moved on.

To each their own. Have you been in a newer Genesis lately? Genesis nowadays reminds me of what Lexus was back when they first started.

@@RichWithCars Big difference is, Lexus makes one of best engine in the world and Hyundai's GDI engine is one of worst. Just wait 5 years and see what happens for Genesis. And we will talk 5 years later if you have same opinion like today.

Ignore the brand snobs. I traded in a Porsche Panamera that was only 2 years old for this vehicle I did my homework. This is an amazing car.

Lexus is garbage.

@jellysleeks9428 agreed. The Hyundai group has been doing some amazing things lately ever since they brought in people from Bentley and Audi. No surprise that the GV80 shares a resemblance to the Bentayga.

So far, it is for me as well....

No bragging - just letting people know of my experience with the car...

Thanks

What do you mean by that?

Please send me some of that stuff you’re smoking on .

I haven't driven the latest from BMW nor Mercedes but I've been inside both. I can def say it's a worthy competitor.

I definitely understand.