Carols quick thinking with the "she can't even walk yet" will always get me. So mature of her to deesculate the situation by appealing to Lizzie's side
Less psychopathic and more dissociative. She doesn't comprehend what she did and clearly values the girl she killed in that she wants her to return. If she were psychopathic, she'd be fully aware of what she was doing and doing everything self-servingly
Lizzie acted extremely well in this scene. I felt so bad for Mika that I wanted Carol to shoot Lizzie and I'm glad she did. At this point, Walking Dead was at its peak.
It peaked in season 1. Then went to crap with an entire season at the farm. Something that was done in a few pages of the novel took the whole season 😂🤦♂️
The actress who played lizzie did a phenomenal job. The character is really sad bc before the outbreak she couldve received help, could be on medications. But due to circumstances, what else could they do?
@@Ivegotmoxie037 you too, I had an ex same amount of crazy in em, tried to stab me when I said no to wearing a shirt they got for me (Tried to stab me with a bowie knife bte)
This scene captures the crazy mindset of some females so well. There are many others out there the same but just haven't killed anyone yet. Be just like getting your junk cut off in the middle of the night.
@@zaviermartinez1809 guess I got shotgun huh? To prove it to you, Mika is crazy and thinks walkers are humans, so she kills her sister and wants to wait do she turns and kills Judith so Carol later brings Mika outside and has her turn away from Carol and to look at the flowers before shooting her in the head with a .30 revolver.
She’s not some evil, deranged killer. She’s just confused. Either by the amount of trauma she has suffered or she just has developmental issues, either way she just doesn’t understand. After seeing how she dissected the rats, she definitely has some potential to become a serial killer as an adult, but at this point she just seems confused. She even “protects” Mika, fearful that Carol will kill her for being a Walker. In todays society she could get therapy early on that could help prevent her from developing into someone even more dangerous if it’s recognized early on. Sadly, some parents are afraid of their child being “labeled” and they don’t seek help which leads to exactly what they are afraid of.
@@robpolaris7272 She is a psychopath, even if she is born with that disorder she be a danger to everyone around her. In real life she either be locked away in a hospital or be a ceo for a big company :p
@@robpolaris7272the original comment was NOT calling her evil but the opposite. She has so much innocent belief in a deeply disturbing situation. It's sad and scary.
@@Pounceboi carol 100% didn’t forget about killing a child being the only child she killed in TWD she mentions this season multiple times within seasons 7-9
what's even happening in this scene sidenote that noone asked for but I'm putting in anyway because boredom: 666th like(to ur comment) timed with the music drop at 3:18AM yeah no I should sleep I've been fucking scrolling through shorts for the past 4 hours💀
@@zainabfatima6042 The little girl killed her sister because she thought she would turn into a walker. She thought walkers were just sick people who could be cured as well. Then Carol killed her.
It's unfortunate because I was looking forward to seeing how Mika would navigate surviving the apocalypse. She had the potential for an epic character arc, and I believe she would’ve been a great asset to the group when she was older.
Mika was a very innocent and girly little kid. I couldn't see her growing up into some kind of die-hard survival expert unless something drastically changed her outlook on life.
Yup. I think definitely the writers were demonstrating the impact the apocolypse could have on a young mind. For me, this was by far the most tragic part of the entire series. Will always haunt me.
@@user-vu3ue6xo3hyes😫 when I first watched it I didn’t fully appreciate it, it was actually very disturbing and well acted. A good detail and story to include in this apocalypse
@@user-vu3ue6xo3h Based on the comic when Ben (Donna and Allen's son later adopted by Dale and Andrea after their deaths) killed his twin brother Billy in a similar fashion and said similar things. Ben was killed by Carl soon after.
People are ignoring the fact that she was right. All of them were already infected whether bitten or not, and they would all change at death which is inevitable.
@@BoopSnoot No, she's not right. She thought the zombies could be tamed so she killed her sister because she was trying to prove her point. A point that was clearly false. Lizzie tortured animals, she's a psychopath so she didn't care if she had to hurt people in the process.
@@decab4209 It was amazing. This was the best time in the walking dead. Better then anything after season 5. The show ended up going downhill after season 5. Everything about season 4 tho was just perfect. And this was perfectly written to show the crazy in Lizzie. It’s supposed to be horrendous it’s the walking dead. And the acting was amazing too.
I felt so bad.. she’s so innocent,she’s not trying to be violent at all because she’s only a kid and she doesn’t understand. This scene was truly heartbreaking,the apocalypse made her messed up and she was only a kid…
She was consistently superb throughout - later series did her character a disservice though. I don't think the writers quite know what to do with Carol in the last couple of years; she certainly had very little to do in the final, underwhelming Commonwealth year and related plots. Pity - Carol was by far the most potent character; reluctantly more dangerous than even Rick or Daryl, yet retaining humanity behind her maxed-out killer abilities. Very interesting character, when written right - but that all comes back to this actress doing such a superb job, with the right scripts/scenarios.
I heard that the actress playing carol wasn’t an actress but a writer who stepped in to temporarily play the part of carol. They didn’t know that her character would blow up the way it did so they decided to keep her on and not kill the character off.
Lizzie didn’t understand all of it, the apocalypse made her so messed up and violent but she wasn’t trying to be violent or kill anyone. It was sad when she died but it saved her from the apocalypse and from Judith getting hurt.
Carol has been through so much in her life and it has made her stronger. Some things have even broken her where she had to get away but she has truly came a long way from an abused housewife. The children that she has loved and lost I'm truly lost for words. She has shown that no matter what she will be a fighter to the end.
Bro this had me shook I think it was junior year this episode dropped and we had just finished Of Mice and Men, she got 360 no scoped while looking at the flowers I said “oh she got lenny’d”
I feel like a lot of people aren’t understanding that Lizzie is just a child whose coping mechanism for all her loved ones dying is that walkers are just people, it’s truly upsetting what the world of Twd does to people, especially children
Exactly, I totally understood where she was coming from. Yeah she was messed up anyway with the rabbit thing but as a child she understood that being a Walker was the new way to survive in that world.
@@ay2537 I mean, you can empathize with the character, imagine being like 10 in the zombie apocalypse. It's horrible that she actually did it but she's a kid surrounded by the walking dead, it's an interesting plot point that the show touched on.
She was also the first one to realize that all of them were already infected, it didn't require a bite as they thought at first, only that the person die and their immune system stop fighting the infection.
Everyone’s talking about how sad it was for Carol to have to have her look at the flowers but nobody talks about how sad it is that the world traumatized a child so badly that there was no possible way they could ever be a good or decent human being again because the world they lived in would never be able to help them
@@codylowry4660uh no. There’s no metal health help in the apocalypse. You’re thinking of Lala land. She’s keep killing and KILLING to prove her delusional “point”. She killed heR FKN SISTER and felt that was A OK
Can someone give me a backstory of what happened? Oh wait nvm I saw “Lizzie was crazy, in layman's terms. She didn't view walkers as threats, but as sick people. She didn't see walkers as being dead, either- to her the walkers' previous personalities were just being overwhelmed by the virus, but were still inside the body. Lizzie wanted to prove her ideas so badly, that she killed her own sister to show Carol and Tyreese that Mika would come back from the dead and still be her sister. Of course, once anyone dies in TWD, they come back as ravenous, unfeeling, flesh-eating monsters with no trace of any humanity they may have had in life. Carol and Tyreese knew that, but Lizzie was blind to that fact. Lizzie, therefore, was a threat not only to Carol and Tyreese, but also to baby Judith, which left Carol no choice but to (as humanely as she could) "dispose" of Lizzie. It was a heartwrenching episode.”
I think Lizzie should have just let hersel bite so she would understand. Her sister got to live she was weak but she would have the chance to become stronger like Carol
Tbf tvere are traces of personality in the zombies, like little girl zombie of the openi g scene of twd who finds a doll on the ground and picks it up and carries it around, or the woman who returned to her house and tried to open the door (but was locked, so she just stood there turning the doorhandle) Man, season 1 zombies were so much cooler in this way, but this happened less and less
@@Exsulator2 I think that's because the producers weren't really sure how they wanted to approach the virus before the CDC episodes; wether they wanted to have them have some personality or not. Because after the CDC episode the walkers never showed emotion of any form.
@@thelukesternater of mice and men is a book and i think they may have also made a movie of two brothers one of them had a pretty bad mental health issue he kills some peeps and then the other brother realizes his brother is to dangerous takes him out somewhere secluded and shoots him
@@randle12hmmm i allways remembered them as brothers hmmm well i was still right about the rest it's been awhile since I read the book or watched the film
@@thelukesternater in “of mice and men” there are two main characters 1 guy who acts like the older brother and 1 guy who has mental issues and acts like the younger brother. Note though the older brother is about average height of a man, the younger brother is abnormally tall and strong. Within the book there is a scene where they are at a barn and the younger sibling is playing with animals, but because he is not aware of his strength he ends up killing one of the babies. A Wife of the barn owner comes to the younger sibling trying to seduce him, but then there was some conflict and a struggle. I believe he ended up breaking her neck by accident. When the older sibling founds out, in fear of the town who would torture and execute him, he took him to a pond and told him to watch the water as they go through their future dreams together. About having their own farm, with bunnies and all sorts of animals. Then when the youngest sibling is at his happiest moment of the dream his older sibling puts a bullet in the back of his head to spare him of what was to come. Really amazing book
This girl is going to be a great actress when she grows up. Pretty and great acting. You can literally see the craziness in her eyes, and that gun draw is like someone who has handled a gun for years.
This made me realise why Rick was so concerned about letting Carl to kill many.. during the prison. First it was like, why Rick is unnecessarily scolding Carl..
There is difference though. Lizzie didn't became psychopath after the outbreak due to her actions and what she saw, she was a psychopath long before the outbreak.
@@BloPsy__ how was she a psychopath long before the outbreak? I thought it was after. I didn’t know there was mention of her mental decline before the outbreak. I knew she saw her parents being ripped apart or something
Except this kid was a sociopath before the Governor tore down the prison. She was feeding walkers for weeks and making them threaten the fences around the prison
@@emilyriley6029 Who ever said people like her needed a trigger? Sociopaths are born fucked up. She probably wanted to hurt her sister, others, animals her whole life.
Kids are scary because of irresponsibility, not because of superhuman quick draw abilities. I'd only be scared after the kid fumbled around pulling the heavy shit from their waistband, then another few minutes pass by as they shakily wave the barrel around unable to properly aim at a target.
Carol is choking over Mika being dead and the fact she knows she has to kill Lizzie all in the same moment. Tyrese is just like I did not sign up for this type of crazy. This haunted him until the end.
Even tho I read the comics and knew about this potentially happening I was still so effing shook bro I couldn’t believe they went there in the tv show, to this day it still gives me a visceral reaction. Truly one of the hardest scenes in any tv show ever.
Literally got goosebumps when she said “Judith can change too” this girl scared the shit out of me more than the walkers damn, but carol took care of it i mean it is hard to kill a girl child but she has too 😥
Weren't the whisperers around that time too. And that's why Lizzie thought of them as still human because she saw some of them in the crowd? I'm not sure I haven't finished the series yet.
This whole section of that episode is just beautifully done. Excellent acting and script writing lead to one of the best and most terrifying scenes in TWD. Then the next one after when Lizzie is killed was one of the saddest things ever. You feel happy that she finally died but horrible that a young kid was executed.
That scene gave me chills… carol was so calm and brave to not yell or scold her. Instead, she de-escalated the situation and calmed her down enough for her to let her guard down. That was probably my favorite scene in the whole series!
I liked the comic version better because the boy (wasn’t a girl) was Carls first kill and the way he did it and snuck back into his tent was CRAZY. “A lot of the grown ups are scared of you…but I’m not…” chills
Let's be honest. An apocalypse full of living dead loved ones would push people to the absolute brink of insanity. I'm surprised this show didn't have more of this. Life clings so desperately.
The governor had his daughter, pamela attempted to do something similar, morgan lost his mind more than he found it. There was a town full of cannibals, which isnt so much about loved ones being zombies but they were still quite crazy. Michonne kept her husband around for a while. There are probably more examples but this was off the top of my head. And i havent even watched, or read, the whole story.
It's the fact that she was ready to take Judith out too😢 I know Tyrese & Carol agreed not to speak on it again, but I really wonder if she told anyone what happened that day.
@@robertveith6383 and so was this comment. I cursed once and you felt the need to take a portion out of ur day to tell a stranger on the internet to stop cursing on the internet. Get a life lmao. Im not going to stop xddd Edit: if you feel the need to tell randoms to stop cursing on the internet maybe you shouldnt be on said internet
@@robertveith6383 Swears are unproblematic and hurt nobody. Prove that swears are negative without religious justification or respectability politics. Fucking try that shit.
