LNER Class 800/801 'Azuma' Trains in ACTION! 2019 

There were more when the Deltics replaced steam and they are still going on about it today!

@Sicilian Gecko And they pass it on to their offspring too!

There is an element of lamenting the HST with some people but not all. Some of the criticism is valid. The travel experienceI depends on which specific unit you have. And also which car you sit in. My first trip was in a motor coach of an early (Japanese build) LNER 800 car and I was shocked by now noisy it was. Really very poor. Return trip was in one of the driving cars which was fairly quiet and smooth. Third trip was in a 801 trailer car (UK build I believe) which had AC that sounded like a gale in the cabin and rattling/buzzing panels - build quality seemed very poor. I've heard similar reports of variability of the GWR sets. Some appear to be reasonably refined and well made while others are very poor. I would agree with this assessment. Not had a chance to try a TPE 802 set yet. Perhaps the build quality has been improved by now. The seat have been criticised to death and rightly so - totally unsuitable for a long distance train and its not just a lack of padding. The shape and angle are very uncomfortable over long periods. For this reason alone they have not gone down well with a lot of people. I would have to conclude that in terms of comfort they are a step backwards. Though I think if they had proper seats and the quality control was sorted out they would make acceptable long distance trainst. They are not all bad like some people are making out but there are definitely some quality and design issues that ought to be addressed.

@@soundseeker63 I had to endure these 800s between Reading and Penzance. Seats are like sitting on a rock.

@@seaside-dn8dp you unlucky bastard. I can just about manage London to Leeds on one.

I agree, but also, I don’t. That was putting it lightly. To put it how I said it irl, Absolute nonsense! The IET’s are so uncomfortable it’s like sitting on a pile of metal scrap, the traction motor sound is awful, they look dreadful. The HST is superior in every way shape or form!! THE END

​@redgoon698 well I agree about the seats, though personally I kinda like the traction motor sound and the way it looks.

I was actually really excited by their arrival until I started riding on them. Lets just say there are some fundamental design flaws that need addressing. And thats coming from someone who thinks the HST is long overdue retirement.

Hsts will still run in Wales on less busy lines if people want to see them. But I agree Hst has to retire from the major lines now.

These are better than the shitty 91s but love the HST.

800's are bi-mode while 801's are full electric

But they same the same trains with 9 or 10 coaches.

The Grand Central Class 180 hiding away will win...

We in India make our own Bullet train train18. you buy Japanese with money stolen from India.but still wish u good luck

@@subhranshuganguly9150 India must be making a lot of money, mining all that salt from you.

Class 221 are being replaced yeah with 805/7 class hitachi trains

125mph

But these trains are more greener than the HSTs.

The EMR VP 185's are being withdrawn when the ex LNER HST's are ready to go. So they won't be around for much longer sadly.

Can't wait to see them all gone and Britain finally embrace the 21st century!

@@tsu8003 I'll agree to disagree on that one 👍🏽

I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I believe the London-Edinburgh route is often serviced with two sets like this.

At least these are maintained at various depots across the ECML so people are still being trained on how to fix them up

Les voitures sont très belles, dommage que les faces soient peintes avec des motifs de mauvais goût (comme si souvent de nos jours). Die Wagen sehen toll aus, leider sind die Frontseiten geschmacklos gestrichen (wie üblich heutzutage).

Means they can run a more flexible and profitable service too. Double up during peak times but no need to run double up during off peak times.

Don’t get to CUMFY those trains will be replaced ..... people will always moan about something 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Mee Not really

Class 800 801 802 ....... Then class 705 807 and 810 are the same design BUT bigger Diesel engines THE BI MODE ones to tackle long distances when no electrification is about the BIGGER THE ENGINE higher number so for example 01 02 ..... up to 810 they have bigger engine capacity horse power basically

I see there are different numbers of carriages but that can be detailed the sub designation 800/x

I think it depends on the operating company actually because I'm fairly sure that all GWR ones are classed as 801's. And Hull Trains have 802's as far as I know. But there could be a difference between all of them...

@@oliverthegreatwesternengin8029 The 800 is bi-model with 560 kW (750 hp) engine. However GWR 800 have been uprated to 700 kW (940 hp) 801 is only electric, however GWR were going to have some 801s but delays to electrification meant they were fitted with engines and renamed 800/3 Class 802 is bi-model with 700 kW (940 hp) per engine, also has larger fuel tank than 800 They all have 5 and 9 car variants. So to work out which is which 800 - GWR or LNER GWR 800/0 5 car LNER 800/1 9 car LNER 800/2 5 car GWR 800/3 9 car 801 - LNER 801/1 5 car 801/2 9 car 802 - GWR or TPE or Hull Trains GWR 802/0 5 car GWR 802/1 9 car TPE 802/2 5 car Hull Trains 802/3 5car If there are no overhead wires it's a 800 or 802, however the 801 has a small engine for emergency movements If its TPE or Hull Trains then 802 They all can use overhead power so can't use that to differentiate Can't tell between GWR 800 and 802 they both have 5 and 9 cars. However GWR will send 802s on certain routes. Same for LNER 800 and 801 if under the wires but the 800s will go to un-electrified locations.

Oliver The Great Western Engine GWR’s are 800’s

800 is a bi-mode hybrid running with both diesel and overhead modes whereas 801s are purwlu overhead.

Richard Wills-Woodward Delusion

@@bluestimtv6255 Which part? The trains are a pile of cheap tat.

They will not last 50 years lol! I agree about the poor seats but I think the ride varies between units. Some are very poor while others are ok. Hopefully over time these issues will be addressed.

@@soundseeker63 They'll never address it!

In a regular lifespan they shouldn't have to run 50 years anyway. Rolling stock that's used for 50 years is clearly only still in service due to lack of funding for new trains. Also: None of you know if the Azumas could last 50 years. All you are is stuck up in the thought bubble that everything old is good abd reliable, and everything new is bad and low quality. The fact is after the early troubles are sorted out most modern trains run just as reliably as the old ones did when they were new.

Simon Masson they might not be as comfortable as the HSTs and 91-mk4 sets however they do the job and despite many of the other new train types coming on stream in comparison they are actually pretty comfortable and reliable.

A Baked Slayer MC Giles I’ve travelled 4 times return from Leeds to London in the last month and each time the Azuma has had to be replaced with the electric set, 3 of which the staff told me was down to maintenance issues. Can count on one hand the number of amendments I’ve had in the old days with HST.’s and 225’s. Also due to this I’ve ended up claiming on the seat repay scheme multiple times due to not having my reservation when changes were made

Simon Masson I think it's been more down to the operator itself and how they've handled the new stock. I live nearer to the great western mainline where the 800's and 802's have been a fantastic success and are now reducing times between certain destinations I travel to I.e Reading, Bristol, Plymouth etc. I do agree with you though the HST's were way more comfortable particularly the leather seats!

They literally came into service a few months ago. Of course there are going to be some teething problems; are you honestly saying the introduction of the HST was seamless?

Can you say APT?