Loader Lift Capacity! Round #4 of 8! Kubota BX vs Deere 1025R! 

Tim, I'm really disappointed to see you handicapped the Kubota with those green weights. You should know it only prefers to lift orange ones. The entire test was invalid :-) Few notes. You did not point out the ssqa and its significant lift penalty. With the pin-on or pin grabber qa coming in higher. The QA offset is also a big hit on rollback. We sell 90% with SSQA, so it's fair to include it in the test, but it deserved mention as there is a tradeoff. I personally would say I think you understate the difference in lift\curl between the two. It's a widely held belief kubota excels there. As an experienced operator you've perfected it on a harder to run tractor, but your average operator will run the kubota with more fineness with less seat time. I think you largely reflected what the spec sheets show, the Deere does life more. Nice work.

Truly EXCELLENT review segment! I love that they're real world tests, things we'd actually experience during ownership, and not just lab simulations or something. Thanks Tim and fam!!!

I have a bx24 for years now and I have ran into so many issues with lifting or even running hot while mowing. I'm finally upgrading to a 1025r this week and I couldn't be more excited. Thank you for your video's, they was very informative and I really enjoyed watching. Thank you and stay safe.

You have a great delivery style in all your video's as well as a very honest nature in the presentations ( and real life I would imagine). Love the caparison test, keep them up as I hope to buy my first tractor next year. Thank you!!!

I'm glad I brought the 1025r, test or no test. Nice video Tim.

An eye opener for sure!! Thank You!!!! So many very applicable comparisons! I bought my BX 1880 with a 3rd function valve installed. I think I'll wait before buying a grapple and forks. Anyone interested in buying a sub compact needs to watch all of your comparisons. I wish I would have been able to. Thanks again!

I am looking at both of these tractors. I appreciate your honest reviews. I think both will do what I need. The front loader curl and lift simultaneously was one of my concerns.

These videos are absolutely invaluable to folks like myself currently trying to make this exact purchasing decision. Thank you so much for taking the time to make them! Having grown up on a farm in Wisconsin which had only red tractors I've noticed myself inherently and wrongly biased against Team Green. Looking at these demonstrations, I find myself softening on my long-held avoidance of them. It's still going to take a test drive on both machines to make the final call, as I already own a Kubota M7040SU with a bucket loader and pallet forks for heavy work. For my situation it's mostly going to be a monster lawn mower "with benefits".

I really like the “real” scenario tests it gives you a really good idea on how each tractor will handle - good job guys

Right on Tim. This has been a great series

This series is pure gold, just lovin it. For the record I have zero tractor experience, but after visiting the Kubota dealer a couple of times I really taught that the BX would do better. The dealer really pushed the ability of the BX loader to do 2 functions at the same time and not the Deere. I am new to your channel, but love your honesty....thumbs way up. You have almost persuaded me to go green.... God bless.

I did not think there would be that big of a difference between the two tractors, thanks for the video.

An example of literally being beside himself! Great video!

I love my BX, but this comparison is pretty clear. Advantage JD! Thank you for presenting ALL of the videos in this series with clarity and honesty. It’s a breath of fresh air! Also, LOVE the Proverb at the end.

Did anyone else find it amusing that this comparison was done while Tim was wearing a Case t-shirt? Great Video Tim, again, not really surprised by the results.

Great video! I agree with the "no curl" emphasis, as I use my tractor like a forklift a lot. I can say that my 1025 helped unload a "big gun safe" from the back of my friend's pickup with no real problem. I even got it to the door for him! Cost? Some beer and stuff on the grill after we got it placed inside. Good day for everybody!

Great video! I'm still looking for a comparison between either of these machines and a GC1723E. I use one at work and I love it!

Thank you so much for your comparison videos, I go pick up my new JD 1025R this weekend. Your videos are great.

Great video, Tims. Quite shocking differences in this one, for sure. Couple that with the turning circle shocker from the last video, and I'm definitely leaning green in this comparison.

That's for this video. This one was the one I was look forward to

Great test! Very simply explains a lot about lifting capabilities. Good work. Lovely signature proverb, too. Captures frustration!

Tim you have done a great job with comparing the Kubota vs John Deere. I can’t imagine anyone doing a better job. I really enjoy watching your videos!!!

Really telling Tim!!! Great job at devising a real world test!!

This is a great comparison. Thank you! 💯💯💯

Great tests, Tim and Tim, Christy, and Katriel. I wouldn't have thought there would have been that much difference in those comparisons. I like my 1025R. Great editing Christy.

That was pretty cool... He said he was able to do two functions at once... while he was functioning both of them at the same time... I Get your humor Tim... and I just ordered my JD 1025R it will be delivered in a few days... I cant wait... I am going to make all kinds of videos about playing in my yard... thanks for all the great info you have given me... I never subscribe but I always see your videos... you earned this one... I just Subscribed... Thank you for selling me my Tractor... lol I knew more than my dealer... thanks Much Respect

Love this guy!! Such a great job with these videos. Oh, I love tractors, too 🥰

I know it’s a lot of work, but I’m glad someone finally made a head to head video of real world scenarios with these two tractors.

Well just goes to show all tractors have their pro's n con's in different situations. Think you may of put a frown on the orange folks though... I love my deere, and if it takes awhile longer to accomplish certain duties, that's a plus for more tractor time. Very fair video of differences TTWT... thanks.

Mind blown at dueling Tims.....that is some fancy video editing.

Another nice video, thanks Tim,,,,,and Tim...

Great real world test. Enjoyed watching your twin brother on the lift and curl demo! 😀

Great comparison. This is a clear advantage of the 1025 and applications in real life.

In Canada this is called a Tim's double double. Lol. Great video. Glad I went with the mean green hulk machine. Keep them coming👍

Nicely done

Tim great job, one thing I have done in the past with Skid steers while lifting pallets full of landscape blocks that were too heavy to lift, was to rock the hydrostatic levers and bounce the machine forward and backward and you can usually lift just a little bit higher with the bouncing of the machine to get it off the ground high enough to just move the pallet.

I just did this with aluminum bucket forks on a danco loader on a cub 149 from the 70s with a 400 lb stone on the front and it lifted it great no problem to trailer deck height...

Another very good comparison. It wasn't a surprise to me to see that the JD could lift more but it was a surprise to see exactly how much less the BX could lift in the forklift comparison. Even though that is disappointing to me as a BX owner, I am happy that I now have a real world example of how much mine can lift. Thank you!

Great video, You just hit on reality. I bought a 2019 JD1025r ( My first tractor) back in April. I needed help with lifting IBC Tote crates of firewood on and off of my trailer. I towed my trailer to each dealer with a 3/4 filled IBC Tote of dried Ash firewood ( about 500#) to each dealer JD and Kubota and asked if the 1025r or Bx 2680 could take the tote off and on. The JD1025r did it with no problem while the Kubota could not. The Kubota dealer wanted to sell me the L3901 or the L4701. He said I would wear out a compact tractors doing this kind of task. I explained it would just be about 16-20 of these totes a year (seasonal ) and the rest of the time I would be using the tractor to till a small garden and help with landscaping and cleaning up dead trees on our 1-1/2 acre property and helping out parents and friends. I had no use or the finance committee (LoL) approval for anything bigger. We choose the JD1025r and have been happy with it. GOD BLESS

Thank you for taking the time to make these comparison videos. I recently purchased a Kubota. When comparing between the Kubota and Deere two items stood out for the type of work I am currently using it for. (1) Using a grapple, with the Kubota the addition of the third function capability is really convenient and a factory option. The buttons are located on the knob of the joystick. When I inquired about this with the Deere it seemed to be more of an afterthought and more inconvenient. Deere did say it was available in the 3000 series. (2) The ability to quickly change attachments on the Kubota. This has been wonderful. I realize the ability to do this requires an attachment on the loader arms which decreases lift capacity but for my uses the tradeoff is worth it. Currently I am moving a lot of 5'-8' logs and obviously the length depends on the trunk diameter but have not had an issue with the Kubota grapple and lift capacity. About a year ago my property got hit by a couple tornadoes resulting in over 150 downed trees and the ability to quickly attach/detach attachments as well as a convenient third function switch has made the job much easier. As you mentioned, they are both good tractors and it just comes down to what your needs are.

Great comparison Tim!

Awesome REAL WORLD tests!!

Finally a real world weight rating g test. No sales BS.

I surely enjoy your videos. I can tell you have many gifts, and you share His gifts in very neat ways. I marvel (and sometimes chuckle) at the correlation between the video content and the Scripture passage. Keep ‘em coming “good and faithful servants”!

Love the videos Tim! Keep them coming. Would love to see a 1025R vs 2038R too! That would answer a lot of questions for potential buyers. I myself have a 2038R and absolutely love it!

Another great comparison video. 👍👍👍

Nice comparison, I owned a BX tractor w/ loader and loved it, however the biggest weakness was the lifting capacity

I think those were pretty clear results. The Kubota had a smaller, but not necessarily lighter bucket and heavier SSQA attachment system. I have never measured, but perhaps you already covered how far out the loaders and buckets extend. Could also factor into lift capacity. Do you feel the BX would lift it's rated figures? Excellent video. I'll always be wondering which identical twin I'm talking to from now on 😜

well done Tim

What an eye opener, thank you. You have blown me away by how little each can actually lift in the real world.

Tim Christi good test thank you

Whow tim that is a big difference between the two tractors 💪💪

Very good comparison.

Keep them coming Tim! Really big difference in this test. I really like that you are taking almost every scenario possible.

Wow that 2025R sure did look good! Great video again Tim and Christy!

Great comparison. The forklift test was eye opening. Need a loader that will lift when you need it to.

Tractor Time with Tim Times Two!!! Awesome!

Great video as always. Must have been nice to have your daughter home. I'm not too surprised Johnny's loader beat the BX. To me, the BX series feel a little toy-like, that's why I got a B series. To be clear, a TON of work can be done with a smaller tractor, but a bit bigger is usually a bit better. I wonder how my B2650 would stack up in these tests...

Very interesting, and honestly, very surprising. I'm a fan of the JD quick attach, and I'm sure the Kubota was hurt by the SSQA system, both in wight and extra distance of the load from the pins imposed by that system.

Tim, love these videos. I’ve been watching all these videos on RU-vid about the 1 series and the BX for the last couple months and I was on the BX side. But after your demonstration and unbiased testing I’m now on the 1 series side. I am going to wait until you’ve completed this video series to buy my tractor, but I want to thank you for the time and effort you’ve put in to showing us what these tractors are all about. You , in my option, have the best unbiased videos on RU-vid for Deere and Kubota. -Rich

I love seeing real world differences. We can watch you do scientific testing that the manufacturer provides or we can show what it really does.

First, love your video's and approach. I have posted a few times in an effort to provide some real world examples to support your great information. I have a BX23s, i have had a B2650 and Deere 2038R in the past. I like both Brands. Today I was able to move my Trailer, Dry weight of 6,900 pounds, packed but with no liquids for camping with my BX23s. The Tongue weight of the trailer is 685 pounds. I used a titan hitch from amazon that slides onto the face of your pallet forks (you remove the forks). The BX lifted, pulled, turned and controlled the trailer without any issues or worries. I put it between 2 trees and need to get around a rock wall. Summary: The BX23s can handle 685 tongue weight on a 6,900 dry weight trailer over grass. Hope you decide to make more video series in the future, ignore all the haters!!

Great video!

Two Tim’s, two tractors... It just can’t get any better

You have done a great job with this comparison series.

This is one of the deciding factors for me.

I love that you had the tractor nuetral shirt on.

Katriel says "FUN sized!" I died! 😅

We were considering one of the other color tractors until we watched this video. After seeing this comparison, we are set to purchase a Deere:) This is a VERY informative video! Thank you! By the way, the "twin Tims" video editing was amazing! ROFL

Love these videos man . Any chance you can take them out to your dads farm and try a pulling test try with weight in the bucket and with no weight I’m excited to know witch one will pull out on top

Now this makes me smile. I like real world tests on the machines. Not just data out of a book that I can read. Thank you.

Great Thanks 👍

Great video

Great review Tim! Also, I felt the ground shake when 2 Tims appeared on screen:). Another point to consider from my experience... I have the AP12F / 48" tines for the 2025R. It's too much for the 120R in my opinion. But I have found that tine position makes a difference for lifting the limits. For instance, I had a 1000# pallet of treated lumber wet (so it may have been heavier) that the 120R could not budge with the tines close to center. I spread the tines out to be closely in-line to the lifting cylinders and it lifted the load without issue and I was able to move the pallet 50 yards over soft ground. No issue. The curl trick is important to know too. But it just further illustrates that technique is often as important as capacity with the smaller machines (until the delta is too great to overcome:))

Hey Tim love your videos

I bought an EA 185 Lb. Hardox 42" tine pallet fork and, while pricy, it has almost paid for itself in the savings of not needing a lift gate for palleted goods I have had shipped to my home. When you can get shippers to agree to a residential address shipment, that is. If not, for lifting them off the trailer when I get home. Weighs less so I can lift more. Probably my most used attachment, as I use it to shuffle my other attachments out of shelter and also as a firewood shagger to carry logs or split wood on pallet "cribs" with side rails. Another great use is to stab and turn/aerate the compost heap!

Not only 2 functions at the same time but on 2 tractors at the same time! Nice editing job. Hey Katriel, nice to see you again! How come you didn't help dear old Dad move those weights around? I agree, 300 pounds isn't much to lift. My 5' flail mower weighs 700 pounds. Don't know how much more with the steel angle iron "crate" it came in.

Love the case tee shirt.

I did months of reviews before choosing my BX. Lift capacity was a huge factor but according to all the other videos online I wasn’t going to lose much. I wish this series was out a few months ago when I made my purchase as I most likely would have gone green. I also find very annoying the fact that the BX loader barely moves at idle while the Deere has about 70-80% of its capacity at idle. Thanks for the amazing series.

1 advantage of the BX no counter balance needed it won't lift it. LOL

Wow. Just wow. Epic smack down using just useable facts. Nice video.

I have a 790 and 3032E tractors from John Deere and they can lift quite a bit, but I have not measured how much they lifted and they both are speedy also and I out drove my brother while on the 3032E and my brother on his Mahindra tractor as we drove about 4 miles one way to do work at our church and I beat him driving there and back home.

Amazing real world comparison. Besides a 1025R I own a Kubota 3540 and often surprised how much it won't pick up. I can't fully load my Bobcat bucket when using it on my Kubota.

Multiple functions on the FEL: I fly R/C airplanes and controllers have two joysticks that give four controls in three dimensions plus throttle. Smooth flight rerquires multiple imputs for throttle (speed), rudder (yaw). elevator (elevation) and ailerons (roll) simultaneously; which marks an experienced pilot. Takes some practice. Transitioning to my JD 1025R it didn't take me long to apply the same smoothness in two-axises to the bucket that I had to a model aircraft to get smooth movements. It's like music or golf. Timing and rhythm. Zen tractoring.

Since you have the crane scale you could use it find somewhere to over hang a load you know you cannot move, and see what curl weight is applied and lift. Could even use different buckets/grapple/forks to see what it affects.

Nice Video!

Never knew you had a twin brother. Also never seen pallet forks used inverted. Pretty cool you can lift 2 feet higher.

Good video Tim and Cristy. It's easy to give you guys a thumbs up. Now how about that Sweet Corn...

Is the world ready for 2 Tim's!

Big thanks to Tim, his wife, Johnny and Martha. About 6 months ago started researching small tractors....to help with my dead and dying ash trees as a result of the Emerald Ash Borer. Im tired, getting old, have taken down about 30 large ash trees with simple old fashioned tools and procedures. Hoping a tractor will give me a helping hand...help save my back.. with another 40 trees that need to be taken down.... I reside in Southern Ontario, Canada. I must say that this loader comparison video was the very very most important video in my months of researching...along with watching My Cluttered Garage, GP Outdoors, Messicks to name a few of my favourites. My eyes were opened in regards to lift capacity of the two models... To back track a little, a few years back a friend needed somewhere to park his 20?? series compact Deere. He parked it at my house, and allowed me use of it. I was surprised with the capabilities of the front end loader or should I say incapabilities when I went to pick up a large rock. Now, in fairness, I was a total newbie and really didnt know what I was doing, so Im not knocking the tractor. Anyways, this stuck in my head, and came to light during Tims comparison video. I went tractor shopping....1025R and BX23S. In my area, Johnnies were quoted at $6000 more than the comparable Orange Kubbies!!!. I wasnt real impressed with the Green Salesman and the dealership was 30 minutes away. I was impressed with the Orange salesman, the dealership is 10 minutes away and I have done business with them before. So, I took the $6000 extra and moved up to a B2601 TLB orange Kubbie. Presently anxiously awaiting delivery with hopes these troubled times dont hold it up too much. R14 tires, 3rd function etc are all back ordered, but dealer is expecting basic tractor delivery sometime this month..hopefully. Thanks again for your efforts and time in posting your vids. OH, by the way, your channel is the very first channel I have ever subscribed to.

Always good to see Katriel. Seems she is near the perfect height ( As tall as her mother, also her legs go all the way to the ground, Perfect ). I went from Pittsburgh to the Penn State Ag Progress Days - got to dream and see some tractors and post frame buildings. Now I know how big a 1025R is and a B series Kubota. Thank always and take care.

One thing to think about is if it's to heavy of a load taking it off a trailer it could tip the tractor forward on you as well with or without weight on the 3 point hitch. and if the ground is uneven may turn it over side ways.

Ok, now do Vinny! I've always wondered what Ventrac would do with a loader... not expecting it to beat either, just curious

This is a perfectly executed side by side test of the John Deere Tractor and the Kubota TOY ! This is an absolute embarrassment to Kubota. The sad thing is, I have the Kubota with the exact LA 344 Loader. I am so glad you pointed this out!

When you lowered both at the same time, ya weren’t kidding lol! Like that old Ford commercial with Ernest “Hey Vern, I’m beside myself,!Know what i mean?” Now fix the damage you did to the space time continuum🤪👍.

Great Video as usual, like seeing the side by side, only disagreement I have is how the loader valves work, unless they've changed this was the first thing I noticed coming from operating skid steers, the BX doesn't need a sweet spot. Wish you had a BX23S as the backhoe is what really sold it for me, the ROPS on the BX23S has a lot more room than the JD, but I like how you can add on a backhoe to the JD at anytime vs the specific model for the BX. Keep up the good work and outcome was somewhat what I expected, I honestly didn't think the gap would be that large, but if the BX has some hours on it the pressure might be down as mine needed to be shimmed at 130 hours.

As Chuck Berry said in his song " Go Johnny Go" . Great video guys . Just wondering if there was enough money in the filming budget to cover the cheeseburger costs for 2 Tims.

Nice editing - at first I thought Christie was on Johnny, but in the same thought was thinking, hey Christie's handling that pretty smoothly, she's upped her game - lol

Big question is what does Neil think of all this? Neil V Tim tractor showdown! In all seriousness this is an incredibly practical comparison. I’m quite surprised about many of the outcomes.

Impressive!!!