One of my hardest ROTC debates with my fellow cadets was why “just charge the sniper” with the squad was not a viable tactic. They literally didn’t know that they didn’t know. In their minds a sniper was just a dude with a scoped rifle and better than average shooting skills. As prior service with a delight in military history who worked with Marine and Army snipers, my take was “lol no.” Commanders have charged _companies_ at snipers with the same net effect as charging them off a cliff.
He raised a good point. If the sniper is well trained and not greedy, he will be very hard to find, even in favorable circumstances. Take for example Carlos Hathcock in Vietnam. Bagged a officer and got away with a non-silenced rifle. I heard of a portable device that troops could take on patrol and it will show the direction of a shot. This was years ago. If such a thing actually got fielded, it would help, but not guarantee to find a seasoned sniper.
Yes, it's a directional microphone basically, and can give you a basic direction and estimated distance of where the shot came from. On a lager scale, in major cities they have a grid of these microphones to triangulate when and where a gunshot occurs to more rapidly respond to incidents. In Afghanistan and Iraq, they also would use radar and other systems to find point of origin sites from where enemy mortars and rockets came from and do counter battery fires.
@@M.H.D.actual my former city of residence used such a system called Shot Spotter. It could detect within a few meters, the location of the shot fired. It also recorded the shots so you could tell if it were a rifle or handgun, and how many shots were fired.
It's easier to do in urban areas with dedicated infrastructure and mapping as stated above (used in certain areas of American cities) however I think the portable systems have significant limitations based on placement, terrain, real time mapping ability, and sound changes within different urban environments especially using a suppressed weapon... I'm sure they're still working on the technology, but I'm guessing it's still FAR from perfect... however counter battery missle and artillery systems are much better, but insurgent/terrorist groups tend to use more mobile shorter range rockets and mortars which are much trickier to pinpoint and direct fire onto before they shoot and scoot... It takes a little longer for a towed howitzer or a self propelled gun to get packed up, plus it usually leaves a trail and leads to another trail or road... While not an exact example of American/NATO capabilities observation of the current Ukraine invasion artillery tactics for counter battery fire and response time is something worth studying... We haven't observed a "conventional" war like this since Egypt/Israel and the Balkans/Yugoslav wars as far as artillery/tanks/air assets but those lacked many of the squad level atgms, aagms, guided munitions, intensive use of drone systems, and the ability to gain access to the footage of the employment/effectiveness/strategies of these systems... I hate to say it but I think the US is spending billions of dollars on weapons testing and further R&D more than it is "supporting Ukrainian independence" 🤔 BTW if you look at the breakdown of those weapon aid packages about half immediately went back to the US, and lend lease is not free, Britain finally finished paying the US back for WW2 in... 2020 🤣 The EU is dead without Russian gas and oil so the US seems to be toying with Ukraine but making sure not to give them enough to make Putin lose completely and thus threaten the EU's lifeline of Oil/Gas... 80%+ of Ukrainian exports (especially food) don't effect the US or the EU so the US doesn't have much to gain other than headache of Ukraine wanting to be a NATO member if they defeat their invaders which would be a complete nightmare and a legitimate new cold war ww3 round 2... I definitely got way off topic, but if you read all of this then I apologize for the rambling 😄👍
They have these. Some authoritarian cities are using them not to prevent crime but more isolate who has weapons (and is using them. Those models are big stationary devices atop buildings or akin to a cell tower...but chances are that they can be jammed onto a vehicle same as the portable radio repeaters etc.
That speaks volumes as to why a well trained guy with some adequate equipment is able to paralize a whole division (Simo Häyhä). Even more so in urbanized terrain. Also, that also indicates how high a value is placed on catching a sniper, if a whole battalion is committed to find a single guy with a rifle. "Every citizen a rifleman" should be every country's motto.
So I gotta ask where does thermal come into play these days? I'm not an operator but try to follow a lot, and it seems to have fundamentally changed the game. low-vis day camo/NV camo is one thing, but a heat signature is a heat sig. and w/ cheap drones you can get a IR camera in air covering the area in
Back in the 70’s there was a groundswell militia movement. The government tried to quash it. It went underground. Two senators met with a spokesperson for the militias. And the else high brows tried to brow beat him. He told them You do know that you are talking about people that will go stand out in the woods for 8 hours just to shoot a deer. For fun. The two senators whispered to each other and they backed off. They infiltrated and broke up many militias. But not the spirit. When I was in high school in the seventies deer hunting in Pennsylvania was so popular there were over a million in the woods first day of buck. It’s now less. About 900 thousand but still one state is larger than most counties of the worlds militaries. And equipment is much improved. That’s why they threaten with jets and nukes.
@@burnsm2012 Even so they shouldn't have framed the video in a way that would suggest there is an answer. Not sure why they bothered wasting my time if they're not even going to be getting ad rev off this.
@@mercedes_nuts for me, this speaks mountains. This defines the before deployment mentality vs the experienced viewpoint. After you have spent days and months hunting IED makers u realize, everything is blurry and nothing is definite. The movies make all sniper shot 1 mile, and all IED command operated connected to a terror cell. In reality most shot by snipers were way inside 300, and ied attacks were being carried out by everyday people who had jobs and worked the farm. They were middlemen. Terrorized and threatened with death to all in their family if they even looked at an American. Listing to this shows that no matter what u did we all struggled to place a name to place a finger on the one thing that could help. But in reality you are chasing ghost. Now, we did find people we were successful, but that was more to do with experience and learning human nature than trying to state a single solution to a complicated problem.
