London to Edinburgh: Train vs Plane! Which is fastest? 

It's so much better with voice over. Lovely jubbly.

FACE Reveal & a good voice! :D

It’s nice to see your face. It makes it more personal I feel. But whichever way you do it, I’ll keep watching. ✌️😃

Loved it! I love people with british accent. I don't know why, but for me it's just a great thing to listen to and also a good thing in the background. Very good for a first video with your voice in it.

Whichever way you do it is just fine. 😀

You dont have to arrive that early before a flight. As long as you check in online and you only have hand luggage, you only have to give yourself enough time to get through security before your gate closes. Before lockdown I regularly travelled to Paris and Amsterdam and always got to Birmingham Airport 50 mins before flight departed.

And the environmental benefits?

Or ldn city

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@@adjo82 'i dont have to turn up early to fly, what are you on about? except the turning up 50 minutes before'...so you have to turn up atleast 50 minutes early? lol

Living in Northwest London, we have the odd situation that it's simpler to get to Gatwick by public transport via Thameslink than it is to get to Heathrow plus you get the added benefit on Thameslink of changing at Blackfriars and getting the best view there is of London and the River Thames while waiting for the connection.

Isn't getting a plane to Edinburgh cheaper a lot of the time?

I've usually found the plane is cheaper than train and city airport is often better for Edinburgh

@@jacksimmers1016 yes, but only if you fly from more distant airports such as Luton with its much less convenient connections, and are prepared to compromise on departure time. So if you have a railcard the train can be both quicker and no more expensive than a flight from Luton if you include the full travel time and cost. I'm often taking camping equipment which means that I can't fly unless I buy my fuel at the destination and pay extra for luggage.

Not forgetting there is a faster train that only stops at Newcastle and as Adrian rightfully says 20 minutes if you want a suitcase and then waiting to collect during arrival. All said isn't the train a little more civilized.

Didn't get lost.

Still not lost

And cheaper. All the benefits - zero drawbacks

Could you give me some tips. I'm planning to go Scotland this September or October, can't decide which time is better to go.

@@sheildbethere8529 September is better. The weather and daylight are starting to get much worse in October.

Glad you liked it!

@TheRenaissanceman65 unless you live in either of the coasts that are comparable to size and density. There a train would make sense. Like the Acela if it was made good and fast. Also if he had taken the tube would he would make the trip in a little more time but a lot cheaper like you said.

@aviagamer None taken. I'm a New Yorker, which is like the only decent place to live in the US and it's still not great compared to basically anywhere in Western Europe.

@TheRenaissanceman65 There are tons of densely populated corridors in the US for real. The Northeast Corridor from Boston to DC, the Southeast Corridor from DC to Miami, the Texas Triangle, the North-Midwest with all the rust belt cities around Chicago, California, and Cascadia. The only places that aren't really suitable for HSR are the Great Plains, the Rockies, and the Southwest.

@@DylansTravelReports Love the new format Dylan, keep it up :)

Hahaha, pure facts man. A late arrival/departure will get you fired or suspended without pay for at least a month in Japan, a possible warning/talking to in the UK if it happens often enough, and nothing at all in the US.

@@trippinoutdoors Japan's work culture is flattening honestly. Seems too extreme.

@@Noam-Bahar Then there's the US' Trolleybuses, a bus running on light rail/streetcar catenary that cannot leave it or else it wouldn't work. I'd almost like to punch the guy who invented it haha

@@Noam-Bahar That all is true. Though I too would strongly prefer the rail vehicles instead as it's not only an insult to the versatility and use of buses, but it also is just a clown train dressed as a bus. Might as well just use the real deal, the rail, instead, you know? No logic to trolleybuses at all. You either make a rail line out of it, or you just use actual buses. If you want a set of transit lines that are stuck on their own proprietary corridors, you want a train. If you'd like to have a adaptable, versatile, go-nearly-anywhere form of transit, you use buses. It's that simple. It's the one major reason I actually dislike trains as a mode of transit. If something happens on the line(s), it screws the entire system up and over until whatever it is is removed or resolved. It cannot detour, or continue. It is stuck. Screwed. I'm not against rail at all however, I'd adore having some of that quality frequent service and all over European high-speed intercity and international rail services here in the US. Just... be smart, and separate it from grade, to it's own proprietary track-ways, rather than allowing any grade crossings at all unless absolutely necessary, like when coming into a station that cannot be elevated nor underground. It also is one of the countless reasons to me, buses are by far the best, most practical, fun and efficient modes of transit out there. Specifically in the form of true BRT service - the entirety of all lines using exclusive lanes or roadways made for them only, priority at signals, and the systems on all buses that automatically take pictures and generate reports to local police of violating motorists using or parking in the lanes. The buses 90% of the time can get out of jams, backups, and make detours/reroute around and by anything that slows them down or blocks their paths in order to keep up with the schedule, and get right back on their usual routes. Something trains again, have no ability to do at all.

The fit the USA airlines would have if you fined them for being late!

Oh, I'd love to go to Oktoberfest 🍻

It is fun flying on the Autobahn, but it is stressful (if you are doing it right). You have to keep an eye on the horizon, cause if a truck going 80kph enters a passing area 1/2mi ahead and pulls out, you have to hit the brakes NOW. Plus at those speeds a Mercedes is probably only getting 10mpg (at $8/gal).

That sounds amazing! Yeah Team Train!

They tend to try and avoid them Rocking sir

Cheaper to.

Much more painful on an 800 though. The ride quality is horrendous and the seats are worse than HEx.

@@aidenstanley7305 if they used the 397's... WHO CARES THAT IT'S 15 MILES SLOWER!!!!! IT'S FAR MORE COMFORTABLE! (eesh, sorry for shouting)

Same thing for London-Paris, London-Manchester, London-Glasgow, London-Brussels, Paris-Brussels, Paris-Frankfurt, Berlin-Frankfurt etc. Trains take almost the same time for city centre to city centre travel (if you factor in airport formalities like getting there and checking in early, which negates the planes' speed advantage) and yet trains pollute waaaay less

Remember that you can use the nice pendos and civities

yes indeed.

Thanks!

Me thinks you've used that before...🤔😉

@@77smp it’s also 1:76:2 scale….awwww, lol

same here

I was thinking the same. You wait forever to retrieve your suitcase after your flight.

Glad you enjoyed!

@@DylansTravelReportsCompare 1930s Nazi Germany Vs 2020s Communist Chinazi in your next video project!!!!

@@DylansTravelReports When coming back, you got off at the wrong tram stop, should have got of nearest the mound on Princess Street.

@@matpk why? This is a *travel* channel, not a 'history of stuff ups' channel.

By the time Japan celebrates 100 years of high speed rail in 2064, Australia might finally have HSR along its east coast, but I wouldn't be holding my breath. I won't be around anyhow.

British trains are famous for their unreliability. This video is PR for the rail companies. If you don't believe me ask ten British people who aren't railway enthusiasts, just people trying to get to work, not one will recommend rail in the UK.

A lot of the time, when looking at a return fare, I've actually found the plane to be cheaper round trip (Manchester) than a train. Of course that's before factoring in Railcard - that was kind of cheating to use that though when you're also looking at pricing. And yes, absolutely breaking up the journey is important. Plus I'd rather be in a decent airplane seat with acceptable legroom in the air for an hour than on a poor suspension, poor seat 800 series train for 4 hours+.

@@aidenstanley7305 Tho you're also destroying the planet by flying. So, if the difference ain't night-and-day, nobody in their right mind flies within the UK.

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@@nanderv You're right, and it's one of the inadequacies of Heathrow. The only trains you can get from there go into London. If you're flying long-haul from somewhere else in the UK, with BA at least, it's far more convenient to take a connecting flight, and it usually doesn't add much to the price. Sometimes it's cheaper. It's a downside for those of us in West London (and there are plenty of us). Flying is usually more convenient, but we should be taking the train.

@@acciid when i was flying on the route up to edi or gla i was using LCY checkin was swift being last than 30mins. and the DLR got me into the city quite quickly. with 1st class on the train being £250 plus. the plane was quicker and mostly cheaper.

I defo agree

We don't have this in Canada

@@robertlee7560 we will

Thanks a lot!

I'm new to his channel what language does he speak normally

@@icost4671 English

@TheRenaissanceman65 very good and thank you very much ☺️

I'm "new" and prefer captions, especially if they stay on screen long enough to read :) easier to watch vids muted.

@@grendel_nz that's the problem most of the time they don't stay on the screen long enough to read so I have to stop it and pause it. Just so they use a guy's voice when a guy talks and a female voice and a female talks I'm good with it ☺️

Glad you enjoyed David 😁

He made it worse on himself by going the longest walking route possible around the back of the castle! The Mound is there for a reason :)

Glad you enjoyed it 😁

How the heck is your comment one week old. The video came out today

@@cmtransportvids Patreon early access

It's down to booking in advance although that ties you to a specific train. If you want or need to be flexible you can leave buying a ticket until the time you travel but it's much more expensive. One way it's £79.20 on Saturdays and Sundays or if you arrive in London after 11:17 Monday to Friday. If you arrive earlier than that Monday to Friday it's £166.00. Both before any Railcard discount that may apply.

@@rmac8378 I beg your pardon? The video is about train travel and your comment seems to be about Scottish independence? Which IF your country ever votes for it needs to improve its grammar by the state of your comments grammatical errors. 😂

@@jeremybarker7577 yea but the plane ticket ties you to a specific plane as well. So the on the day train tickets aren't really comparable.

You consider that a small distance? The only bit that was small was the Heathrow Express and I think that’s not bad as it’s never been cheap.

@@sodorflubbs5000 by world standards 404 miles is a small distance

@@jmgrahit26 By UK standards it is half the country. Roughly.

@@sodorflubbs5000 £25 for a 20 minute journey is ridiculous

@@kalicom2937 still a relatively short journey

If booked in advance, even by a few days, the train often beats the plane but.... Next day or even same day journeys via cheaper airlines can often be considerably cheaper and worth the extra hassle, however extra costs related to covid may have made that obsolete.

@@77smp I used train pal for a ticket from kings cross to waverly and it split my tickets to £12.

Spoiler !!!!! Hahahah

As there is not much difference in duration people should be travelling by train and it is cheaper. Only actual data taken from the airlines and railways could give the correct picture.

@@1973dineshkumar Exactley! The train is also all electric making it better for the environment.

me too

I agree! Even if it was the same price, the train is far more relaxed and well worth the extra 15 minutes imo!

Spoiler alert!! 🙄

@@DylansTravelReports District-Piccadilly lines £3.30, 64 minutes.

Jet fuel is free from taxation and airlines don't have to cover any of their externalities (climate damage, pollution, noise). No wonder they can offer their tickets for next to nothing.

Me now wondering why there isn't a bridge/tunnel between ireland and the uk....

PS, take a picnic since the ride is about 14 hours long lol

@TheRenaissanceman65 Haha no sour cream on your sarnies, you're sour enough lol

@TheRenaissanceman65 haha you trigger tool, why you wasting time answering me then, durp.

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Easyjet beats Cross Country! I'd like to see the emissions of a modern A320 Neo compared to a voyager.

£118.40 on the train. 6hrs 19mins direct. That’s not bad is it?

Early morning arrivals into Heathrow will always cause various slot delays . Longest I've had is 35 min coming back from Tokyo going over essex in circles.

I travelled to London in 2012 and was in a holding pattern for 30 minutes as we circled the city. It was one of the most incredible parts of the flight. I literally wore my camera out taking photos of the city.

@@airzulu2733 I actually quite enjoy doing the circle a few times.

I agree!

Certainly

Exactly. Theoretically the train plus tube could be zero carbon at some stage, whereas I doubt that the plane will be electric in my lifetime.

@@nicholasbrown6697 Cantanery wires always will win over batteries. Can't run out of charge when your constantly on charge. And it's easier to convert existing stock to run as electrics from diesel.

That is interesting that you say that. I felt the exact same way when I watched this video. I did thoroughly enjoy this new format, but I admit I did feel “less relaxed“ than I do when watching the other videos. I am not sure why. Maybe I like reading what he’s saying… Not sure.