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Long Range 101 Part 57 - Scope Mount and Rings Installation & Discussion

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There are many different scope mounts and rings available for you to use on your long range precision rifle. Which ever choice you end up making, there are certain things you want to understand before mounting them. Your ability to track moving targets and acquire targets quickly will hinge upon how your scope is situated on your rifle. Most of the grievances rifle shooters have about using optics are rooted in poorly mounted optics. If the scope is set up right, you should have no problems getting on target quickly and efficiently.
In this video, Rex walks you through the entire scope mounting procedure while discussing equipment selection as he goes. This may not be the most riveting action packed episode ever produced, but it is loaded with numerous tips and insights concerning the topic. If your watch this all the way through, you should understand everything you need to know to get your optics properly mounted.
Rex's recommendations:
1. Use a one piece scope base if possible.
2. Match the base to the rings --use the same material (steel on steel or aluminum on aluminum).
3. Leaving enough room for your bolt handle operation, try to get the scope as low as you can -- this may require careful measuring of your scope dimensions before purchasing rings and bases.
4. Use thread locker.
5. Be careful not to over torque / damage your screws.
Rifle: Remington Model 700 SPS Varmint, .308 Win w/ AICS
Base: TPS, 1-Piece, XP, 20 MOA, alloy steel
Rings: TPS, 34mm, diameter, TSR, Medium 1.185", alloy steel
Optic: Steiner (Germany), Military Scope 3X-12X56mm GB2 MIL-DOT, Illuminated, Front Focal Plane, 0.1 MIL w/Zero Stop, CCW Elevation Adjustment
Rex will do a video on bore sighting and zeroing in a future video. Stay tuned!
All the music in this video was created by TiborasaurusRex, an unsigned artist.
Song Title: Wadi Watir
Music and Lyrics by: TiborasaurusRex
Instrumentation and Vocals by: TiborasaurusRex
Recorded by: TiborasaurusRex

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@TiborasaurusRex 5 лет назад

Come train with Rex!!! It would be an honor to meet you in person! rexdefense.com/

@charlieandhudsonspal1312 3 года назад

Well you’re going to get to meet me in October. Hope you’re as excited as me. 😊 I’ve been wanting to talk to you for a while. Not about shooting though, a more important subject 🧐. I sure picked a piss poor time to come see you though.

@TiborasaurusRex 8 лет назад

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@letstalkdogs1 7 лет назад

Hey Rex what is the name of the vice your rifle is mounted in?

@johnlee4249 7 лет назад

Thanks for the great instructions in your videos, to include the music, and the discount you have manage to secure for us, its greatly appreciated. Now where do I send your donation?

@mrsides1 10 лет назад

i would have thought you would have lined the ret up on a plumb line or mechanically set.......you are very meticulous on everything else ? I bow to your greater knowledge Rex - G

@RJTINNC 10 лет назад

Rex, One thing you didn't mention (unless I missed it) that some folks may need to know is when checking for eye relief what power setting (highest power setting) the scope needs to be set to. With a variable scope that can play a big part in proper eye relief when setting up the scope.

@TiborasaurusRex 10 лет назад

Great comment! Thanks for reminding us :-)

@joeanderson8628 9 лет назад

I know you have a huge following, but I am going to give my opinion in over 45 yrs experience in firearms. Saying you can tell the Torque needed is false. We proved that a million times over with our torque simulator setup in the Air Force. 100 percent of the people who claimed they could tell the needed torque by feel were off by large percentage. Is this application super critical? No, but I want the best setup I can get. The same with the leveling. People naturally tilt or have the rifle canted slightly. I have had customer argue their scope was not level. I can put the levels showing the rifle is level and the scope is level to the rifle and they still think it is off. The reason they think it is off is because they are holding the rifle on a tilt. Levels are absolutely needed.Lapping--- those bases are not aligned and that is why the scope was sticking in them. Lapping is very important.Take it or leave it, either way I enjoy your videos.

@TiborasaurusRex 8 лет назад

+Joe Anderson Thank you for the excellent commentary, sir! That seems about right... upon reflection... many folks struggle to get stuff level and don't have the torsional discernment necessary to reach the target torque level. I guess its worth recognizing that although some experienced folks know what "snug" should be, a more quantifiable method may be advised for the less "torquey" of the species ;-)

@larrytaylor9510 8 лет назад

+Joe Anderson I agree 100%...torque and level both need precision measuring.

@risingawareness13 8 лет назад

Can I just leave my scope canted a little then, so that the reticle is level when it's shouldered in a natural way (with a slight tilt)?

@A_friend_of_Aristotle 8 лет назад

+Pastafarian Yes you can, but don't expect your accuracy to hold beyond your zero range. Most people sight-in their rifle/scope combination for a specific distance, then either use their mil-dot reticle or make adjustments to their scope for targets closer or further down range (and for wind, etc.). If your scope reticle is not level with your rifle bore (vertical sight reticle bisecting the rifle bore) your accuracy beyond your zeroed distance will be off. If you're a bench shooter you'll never be satisfied with the rifle's accuracy. If you're a hunter you'll take the chance that you'll only wound the animal and cause it to suffer needlessly...or you'll miss it entirely. The solution is to set up the rifle for maximum accuracy and change your shooting style to take advantage of it.

@risingawareness13 8 лет назад

Ah, thanks. Yeah--I kinda figured that stuff out and already set it up the standard way. I also figured the cant would make ineffective my bdc reticle. I'm going to be both bench rest shooting and hunting when I get good with my rifle (my first bolt rifle).

@sanjose5090 8 лет назад

I want to start by saying thank you for this wonderful series. Second, you are genuine person which is refreshing. Most internet types try to act cool or hard core or whatever and it's a total turn off. Also, I don't like long videos unless they are entertaining or have something worthy of the length...you've nailed it Rex. Thanks again.

@sukkotprepper6004 11 лет назад

if you are not confident with "feel" use a torque wrench. But torque wrenches depend on continuity of materials. Sometimes there is simply no replacement for the personal touch when materials are having trouble meshing together. But todays quality products usually mesh quite well. Good video Rex.

@masterofnone2236 5 лет назад

I thought that I was probably the only person not using a level and fancy tools to install my rifle optics, until I saw your video. I agree with you that I I can tell if the rifle optic is level by shouldering it and looking through the scope you can tell if it a little off just by using this process.

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

That's and Accuracy International Chassis System. Picked it up on midwayusa for like $800ish. Rifle: Remington Model 700 SPS Varmint, .308 Win w/ AICS Base: TPS, 1-Piece, XP, 20 MOA, alloy steel Rings: TPS, 34mm, diameter, TSR, Medium 1.185", alloy steel Optic: Steiner (Germany), Military Scope 3X-12X56mm GB2 MIL-DOT, Illuminated, Front Focal Plane, 0.1 MIL w/Zero Stop, CCW Elevation Adjustment Testing it out - very very nice so far. It suprised me.

@SeaHoundM 10 лет назад

I find its very handy if you are installing a scope by hand to hang a plumb line from the ceiling and aim at it through the scope. It will clearly show if the upright cross hair is actually perfectly vertical. To make a plumb line, you only need a piece of string and a small heavy object with a hole in it.

@patrickkelly9721 3 года назад

I do the same. I remove the bolt and find the plumb string through the bore. Then tilt the rifle if necessary to align the crosshair on the string and in the bore. Then the vertical line of the reticle with the string and the bore.

@dcummings7253 4 года назад

Thank you for doing this without all the expensive tooling other people suggest.

@rooftopvoter3015 3 года назад

Yeah, like who needs an inch pound torque wrench?

@dcummings7253 2 года назад

What ever dude I have everything he used I was talk about other videos I seen. Have a nice day.

@Supergrover1969 11 лет назад

Man, I've watched a lot of instructional videos on RU-vid in my time.. gotta say, that you are one of the best step by step teachers I've encountered... covering both what you should do, and WHY it works, is an uncommon talent. :) Jehovah Jireh.. Thanks :)

@SABjork 9 лет назад

Always entertaining and informative videos. I thought that I was the only one who trusted my eyes over instruments. It's amazing how accurate the brain is. Good job on the Steiner optics; top shelf. Well done, Rex

@dazsmith4022 9 лет назад

Im no expert but just a tip here on plumbing cross hairs. Just slide in a parallel piece of say, steel or similar that is a little wider than the height of the gap between the rail and the flat section on the bottom of the scope at the turrets. Something like a steel rule or thin bar. This goes in at an angle for clearance then turn the bar towards a vertical position until it touches the scope.Easy !

@danthecarpenter71 9 лет назад

When leveling a scope, I like to support the rifle on a table, aim it at a window, get the rifle as plumb as possible and rotate the scope until the cross hairs are aligned with the window edges. Easy squeezy! Warning, make sure the blinds are pulled first. You don't want to scare the neighbor to death and get the cops called on you for pointing a gun at them. : )

@cornbreadburgess1950 3 года назад

Great video brother, knowledge is timeless.

@brosrcool 3 года назад

Yes, it IS riveting. Im taking lots of notes. I will be putting a 10/22 together (my first assembly) and I'm buying the best parts I can find and I really want to do it properly and you are a BIG HELP.

@thecrustyoldmachinist9384 6 лет назад

Hi Rex: I am a huge fan of your videos. There is a great deal you have taught me about long range shooting. I do not understand why you did not lap those scope rings in. The scope tube was obviously in a bind which is why it was sticking. That is a pretty expensive scope to bend up by not lapping the rings. Thanks so much for your videos.

@kaitlynhardin1235 4 года назад

to level scope simply use a set of automotive feeler guages .place them on base and under flat spot on bottom of scope works perfect everytime

@johnnypea5369 10 лет назад

I just started shooting and setting up scoped rifles. I can attest to the importance of setting your eye relief (distance from eye to scope) correctly. After going to the range a few times the scope seemed to be excessively sensitive to eye alignment and I almost got rid of it. Someone suggested checking my eye relief. After pushing the scope out another half inch the sight picture was much better and eye position was much less critical. That half inch change made a big difference in usability!

@daleschmidt7157 10 лет назад

Yep, I too am a fan of your videos. I am currently setting up a M14/M1A rifle system, so there I am studying and researching my Scope options.

@ynotjf 6 лет назад

Rex, you are my main source for long range shooting advice but after this video, no so much for gunsmithing! What I learned from this video is how many mistakes I can make when mounting a scope and still maintain accuracy. This rifle was accurate after your mount job.. right?

@goneballistic 9 лет назад

Hands down the best youtube channel on the planet. Thanks for the work Rex, If you are ever in Utah, Dinner is on me chief!

@skinny4070 6 лет назад

i have been working my way through your 101 videos. im glad i found them. good information from a knowledgeable person. its hard to find stuff like this from someone who knows what they are talking about and not some "Beards Mc Operator" blow hard. good videos

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

Slow is smooth and smooth is fast - even when mounting a scope Hope it all lines up for ya!

@LostInChat 7 лет назад

I just use my digital protractor that I use at work... You can zero the gun at any angle in a vise and then check zero angle on the scope. Great Video man, I watch all of your stuff

@chromatica9557 9 лет назад

Hi Rex, TPS rings are designed so that all of the gap should be on one side of the ring. There is an index mark on the left side of the ring base. There is also an index mark on one side of the cap. These marks need to be aligned and then the screws inserted and torqued down on this side only (directly over the 7/16 nut). Then the second set of screws are to be inserted and torqued down on the opposite side. The gap is designed to be 0.020 inches. This design eliminates the twist of the scope that would occur if the two sides were tightened alternately.

@pulldeauxduck2480 4 года назад

Great job on topic kidO. Like the tool part simple but effective ,dry fitup 🦆🦆

@jimb569 10 лет назад

Just a quick leveling tip. If the bottom of your turret housing is flat, you can use a allen wrench or something else that is flat as a gauge between it and the mounting rail. It's always been faster and more precise for me.

@MayfieldCreekObservatory 4 года назад

Thanks for this. I got my Area 419 base installed on my Remington 700 Police yesterday. I am going to mount my Nikon FX1000 tonight. I was able to test putting the rings on and I can spread them far apart front and back of base. I used a torque wrench on the base but think I will not use it when tightening the scope and top of rings down. Thanks again!

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

General rule: If the rings are of poor quality or the alignment is off, then lapping is helpful, if not then you don't need to lap :-) Most good rings are good to go right out of the box. Badger, TPS, Leupold, NF, IOR, etc...

@danielgilmore2516 5 лет назад

Hey Rex, I wanted to see if you answered this question before asking it, but there are a ton of comments, and this one seemed closest to the topic, but as far "nice rings" not needing lapping, I recently purchased some Burris Xtr Tactical rings in Aluminum for my savage 110 tactical in 6.5CM, and I'll be mounting a primary arms 4-14x44mm FFP scope... Given your experience have you ever needed to lap those Burris Xtr Tactical rings? If so are there any physical identifiers prior to mounting that can help tell if lapping is necessary? (i.e. If the inside finish is smooth vs slightly textured) I hope that makes sense and that you haven't already addressed this issue in particular to the Burris Xtr Tactical rings. Thanks!

@danielgilmore2516 5 лет назад

TiborasaurusRex ^ Not sure if I tagged you or not on my last comment.

@Blackdiscoball2 11 лет назад

I haven't read all the comments so someone may have already said this but one way I've seen to leave a scope (only works on some scopes and guns) is if the scope has a flat part on the bottom and the scope mount has a flat part you can stick a ruler or something square between them and use that to level it with the base.

@Mr2fierce 10 лет назад

subbed for life, love the scriptures in the beginning of your vids also

@Smokeshow767 10 лет назад

TPS recommends lining up the hash makes on top ring and bottom ring before mounting. TPS says that there will be a slightly bigger gap on one side of the ring after torquing down. That's the way it is designed. Now if you want to do it differently then that's on you. TPS also recommends that you don't lap the rings.

@craigcardelucci3228 10 лет назад

TPS, nice rings and veteran owned.

@alangifford5866 6 лет назад

Hey, what's this I hear about you having problems with your TPS reports? Didn't you get that memo?

@williamchristy3063 4 года назад

GREAT INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO!

@the1j043 10 лет назад

Another helpful reminder for TPS rings would be you have reference lines on both the bottom and top ring on one side only. Those need to be married up. Also I believe TPS recommends not doing the crisscross pattern, but tighten the side with the reference marks, then the other side. This keeps the scope from canting and you will end up with a small gap on the side tightened last. That Steiner is sitting in there pretty darn tight. I'd have probably lapped those rings for the $ you got into that rig. Very nice rig btw. AICS stock, Remmy (my favorite), TPS base and rings, and a Steiner to boot !!

@BustedKneeAdventures 9 лет назад

you say to shoulder the rifle to check for eye relief but if you are shooting from prone position won't the position of your head be different than from sitting or standing? should one check eye relief from the shooting position that they most anticipate to use?

@gnmink 7 лет назад

I found the easy way to test your scope to see if it is aligned with your bore is to use a laser bore sight. After you eyeball the alignment and before you snug it down use a laser bore sight to adjust the reticle just like you would to zero. Once you have the rifle zeroed you can run the elevation turret adjust up and see if the laser shits to one side or the other of your crosshairs. Do the same running the elevation adjustment down looking for the same deviation but in the opposite direction. The scope is in alignment with the bore if there is no deviation to the laser bore sight when you make the adjustments to your elevation.

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

A good quality base mounted on a modern factory rifle usually mates up pretty well. Some old military rifles may require some tinkering now and then, but if the actions are contoured correctly, there is no problem.

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

If you plan on doing mostly long range shooting (400-1000m) a 20moa tilted base will allow you to zero in on a target at those longer distances through the centermost regions of the lens as opposed to looking at the target through the periphery of the lens which can result in more distortions. A 0moa scope base would be for closer ranges

@stimey14 11 лет назад

Loving this series. Really appreciate you taking the time to teach this stuff. Just ordered my scope 2 days ago and will be doing this very soon!

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

Howdy! I would actually look at the TPS steel bases and rings. Steel is just so much stronger and less apt to streip out get damaged. The TPS are practically every bit as good as Badger and are much less in cost. Get shorter rings than I used here for use on your SWFA.

@7curiogeo 6 лет назад

You rock. Great info verifies all I have ever learned and taught me more. Total common sense thoughts. Thank you Sir. And blessings to you.

@pv107 11 лет назад

I agree with you with the levels. I just started long range shooting 2 years ago and always a level, and trusted that I was set. But when out on the field my scope was still canted. Once I readjusted without it everything was fine.

@divolb 5 лет назад

If dissimilar metals are an issue (i agree that they are, the have different rates of thermal expansion), shouldn't you use a steel body rifle scope? Seems the vast majority of modern scopes use an aluminium body. In this case, where do you make the transition to the steel receiver of the firearm? In the base? In the rings?

@planeiron7553 7 лет назад

Good job Rex, I wish I had some of your toys. Keep on keepin on

@GetMeThere1 10 лет назад

A good (and very simple) way to make scopes "level" is -- provided they have a straight plane below the turrets, which they usually do -- is to just wedge a straight-edged object between the scope bottom plane and the rail, and rotate the scope until there's no "light space" seen on either side of the straight edge. It's absolutely foolproof and absolutely correct, and extremely easy -- but again, it works only when there's a flat surface on the bottom of the scope.

@TiborasaurusRex 10 лет назад

Good questions: I was planning to shoot the same 168s BTHPs I had loaded for my AR-10. The 1:12" twist in the SPS doesn't overstabilize the .30cal 168s. The reduced static stability allows the bullets to maintain their tractability and they can push the transonic zone with less susceptibility to loosing their dynamic stability at the outer limits. The new Sightron FFP SIII? Havn't tried it yet, but looks like it might be a descent option. I will see if I can find one to play with.

@sfzx54 7 лет назад

Use a torque wrench you only think you can feel it exactly. Also never tighten the base of the ring set to your pic rail till you lay your scope in place to help parallel the rings with the scope tube if your not lapping the rings, thats why your not able to easily move your scope for eye relief. Go ahead and lightly put the ring upper on, no reason chancing a drop of the optic!!! Use a plumb bob or create a level line on a wall with an accurate level and lay a flat across the pic rail to level your rifle, then lay a flat across your top turret and you will be able to get back and set things extremely close. Begin snugging the base of the rings pressing forward and down while you do.

@wheelairrentals7132 11 лет назад

DUDE! Where is the rest of the videos? I've watched hours of your brilliance and want to start making my charts!!!!

@theclaymore5150 11 лет назад

Answered my own question....hope this helps the crew out. 1. Measure the bolt diameter and divide it in half. Example: 0.700″/ 2 = 0.350″ 2. Measure the scope tube diameter and divide it in half. Example: 1.000″ / 2 = 0.500″ (Note: for 30mm tubes use 1.181”) 3. Measure the distance from the top of the bolt in the rifle to the bottom of the scope on the rifle. Example: 0.750″ 4. Add the numbers found in the formulas in steps 1-3 Example: (0.350″ + 0.500″ + 0.750″= 1.600″)

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

I'm not goona lie, the 3-12X56 is amazing. I am sure the 3-12X50 would be great as well, but the exit pupil diameter of the 56mm is very very nice to have. Great value.

@pulldeauxduck2480 4 года назад

Playing with headspace watching the scope vid.🦆🦆ole bud retired from mil . Gave me 308 rounds, . 👁wonder if those were da same ones stripped the lugs off his M1 A🙌🏾 .Great vid KidO. 🦆

@ArkansasBassMan 10 лет назад

Should you not apply some oil under the base to prevent corrosion? Ive seen plenty of frames and bases come out with bad corrosion when soneone wants to change bases/scope. A bit of oil im sure wont create a waterbed for the base to ride on when torqued to spec. Keep up the good work. I absolutely love your videos. Maybe do a precision reloading series as well.

@neroknives1828 6 лет назад

Does it matter if my scope is in mil, but my base plate is +20moa? I’m assuming it wouldn’t, but not positive. Also for a 7mm rem mag. Would you go steel or aluminum? Thanks

@willbranson3216 6 лет назад

I don't want to argue, but I started mounting my own scopes shortly after taking up shooting. And not to save money. Leaving it to otherwise capable gunsmiths caused ongoing problems with improper leveling and scopes coming loose in the rings. Or oftentimes the opposite: screws would strip when I tried to swap the scope. It then cost $50 per screw to have them reamed out! The problem was the gunsmiths simply wouldn't take the time to do the mundane procedure properly. Probably because there was no money in it. Since then, I've always degreased every screw and hole (with methyl hydrate) thoroughly before applying Uncle Mike's Guntite (medium Loctite). And then followed the manufacturers' recommendations for torgue. Lapping the rings, though not essential perhaps is always a good idea - at least with 2 piece bases. I notice TRex doesn't bother with those steps so I won't argue, it but I would rather be safe than sorry considering the short time it takes to do things properly, as opposed to chasing down the reason for poor groups later. Anyhow, since I started to doing my own mounting, I haven't had single problem with dozens of guns. Incidentally, for those using Leupold rings, they recommend against lapping, especially with their QR rings. They told me that they don't want people wearing down the minute grooves on the inside ring surfaces, which were designed to increase grip.

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

If the topography is rugged and the horizon is not flat, a level could be helpful. :) Thanks for the kind words, man.

@senormike5150 11 лет назад

What are your thoughts on using the "cant" bubble levels? I am installing a new USO scope on my Remington 700 and this was one of the "extras" they suggested? Your videos are awesome! I am a teacher and your approach to teaching is spot on.

@TiborasaurusRex 10 лет назад

For the AR, you may want a higher mount like the PEPR for a nice fit. For the Ruger Scout - are you wanting it mounted on the factory scout rail??? If so, you will need a long eye relief optic.

@russellmoore7134 6 лет назад

hey guys you all are criticizing his techniques but you gotta remember... This one is for the wife, lol

@mquigly1547 4 года назад

Can't afford to have her out shoot me!

@rickm4295 Год назад

Man , I thought you had to use levels and stuff , I like this way much better

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

lol - I don't mean to poo poo levels, but the reasoning for this is that although the levels themselves are usually very precise, the surfaces we use to measure off of are not always square with the rest of the rifle. Action contours are not always perfect, and especially scope turret caps are often not completely squarely situated. A level is fine, but you will have to double check how it works out, because it is often that the levels get you more crooked than when you started. :-)

@willb8684 6 лет назад

ya levels on caps and all that wierdness...lol you dont need it...as long as your horizontal line in your scope is horizontal when you shoot your good.

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

Depends....if you plan to shoot more in low light, then the 56mm will give you a slight edge; if you really need something a little more handy, the 50mm will be a little more compact.

@spartan4745 10 лет назад

hahah "nice and peaceful" when shouldering the rifle. maybe just me but that was funny

@ml6049 11 лет назад

I agree with mr or ms drednox you've taught me a great deal and I would love to give back

@johngarrie2633 4 года назад

Very good info keep it comeing

@jasonbarta668 11 лет назад

Thanks Rex I'm going with medium. You videos are a bible of much needed knowledge! God bless ya brother!

@Jonno2summit 10 лет назад

I shared this info on an M1A vid and wanted to pass it along here. "Brad hole tee nuts" are a great way to add anything to your stocks like picatinny rails. Just google the term I have in quotes. They are strong enough for anything including bipod mounts as they have 1/4" of steel threads, and remain completely flush inside the stock. You can pick them up for cheap at any hardware store. The smooth flange will grab just fine when torquing down.

@Drednox1 11 лет назад

Where do we send donations? I feel I should be paying for all this knowledge!

@emburgess7186 11 лет назад

Cool rifle and scope...setup...I'm one of those guys you mentioned that strips every screw and snaps heads off...guess I don't know my own power...loL...tork wrench was a must for me...that way I can read what the manufactures tork specs are and do them just like that...then if the damn thing breaks I can blame it on someone else...makes me feel better.Lol

@johnt4060 5 лет назад

I never have and never will use a torque wrench on guns. It's either tight or lose and as long as it's tight enough so it won't walk out you're golden

@randallsnyder8012 6 лет назад

Great video! Thanks

@battmann678 11 лет назад

Have watched every vid so far. I actually like your willingness to consider minutia in this endeavor. So I was pretty surprised you "eye balled" mounting the scope, and poo pooed using a level.

@mrchuck3338 8 лет назад

Hey Rex whats the minimum distance from barrel to scope that you should go when mounting?

@jacobj.1969 9 лет назад

Rex, I would like to see a review or know your opinion of the new 2015 Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP EBR-1 (MRAD) Reticle optics. I heard that the glass in the new ones are much better than last years Vortex. Thanks for your time.

@TiborasaurusRex 10 лет назад

…so, either way you go is fine...thus the main selection criteria remaining for barrel length will be your required velocity and rifle handiness. As far as twist, if you want to use 208s, the 1:10” is just fine - for ELR shooting you don’t want to go too tight and risk loosing your bullet’s tractability.

@tiputipu777 5 лет назад

Well even Håkan, the creator of Spuhr says that the material doesnt matter but craftsmanship does. Most militaries probably use a steel base and spuhr mount, spuhr is aluminum. You will always have steel to aluminum contact. I had all steel connectors and the scope rings worked out loose during the winter on my 308. You should always check your screws before shooting.

@MrVegasTube 2 года назад

Man just THE video I'm looking for! Subbed. BTW what gun vise are you using there?

@MadMax9to40 11 лет назад

One method I use for leveling the scope is looking through the scope into a mirror. I then turn the scope cant until the horizontal crosshair is level with a portion of the rifle that is known to be level, i.e. the stock height of the bore centerline.

@shelbyville515 11 лет назад

Thanks for the quick response sir I do appreciate it. Absolutely wonderful and informative tutorials!

@Niceplaying 11 лет назад

That model is my freaking dream. Really nice videos dude, keep up the good work !! Thanks alot :)

@22Kreedmire 8 лет назад

I just want to add. If your going to use TPS rings. One of the reasons to use them is the way they are machined. You DONT tighten down both sides evenly. READ the instructions. Put the bottom halves on. Set scope in bottom halves. Set eye relief. Install top half making sure the notch in the upper and lower ring is on the same side. Tighten that side all the way down! Install screws on other side about half way in. Level the scope to the action. Tighten both screws on that side to proper torque with a TORQUE wrench. TPS rings are machined in a way that the scope will not rotate when you tighten one side down all the way and then level the scope and secure the other side It's one of the reasons I buy TPS rings. The instructions even state that the side with the notch will be against each other and the other side will have a VERY small gap. Read the instructions. NO other ring that I know of is made to do this. Not even badger. I won't pay money for the "badger name" when TPS is better and EASIER to use Read the instruction. If you want to tighten down in a cross pattern then get a different ring that isn't machined to .0002 tolerances

@PlantedPSC 2 года назад

Still watching the sniper 101 series

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

Nothing terrible, but some claim there are thermal expansion issues that could potenetially shift the rings if they are tight on one side but loose on the other... I don't think it would cause any significant shift in POI, but its just 'nice' to have it even.

@TiborasaurusRex 10 лет назад

Although its true that the amplitude of the vibrations are decreased in short, stout barrels, the frequency of those vibrations are increased. There are 2 ways to go. 'Conceptually', a shorter barrel often requires less load development, as the amplitudes are minimal, but the higher frequency makes it more difficult to get 'perfect'. A longer barrel often requires more load development, but finding that node and riding can be easier due to the lower frequency of the vibrations. Either works.

@wilfdarr 4 года назад

LOL I just figured this out from your harmonics video 2 days ago (and posted my out loud thinking): you wrote this comment here 6 years ago.

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

lol - yeah, I hear ya. I had a nice ST-10 TPAL laying on the table for her, but she INSISTED on the Steiner. After looking at it, she liked it much better... so what can I do besides mount it for her? :-)

@Fixall7 10 лет назад

I personally feel that you should have Lapped the Rings before mounting that Expensive Scope on ! As you were installing the scope on I felt that there was some tightness between scope and rings even before putting the top half rings , a scope usually has to be able to somewhat slide and move freely on the rings or else your going to put a kink on the scope tube .... thats my 2 cents !!

@bretthl1 7 лет назад

Just curious ... you mount a $2K optic on independent rings without lapping or checking the alignment? Can we do this? When is lapping necessary? Does the Picatinny base eliminate the need to check alignment and lap? Or do we buy ridiculously expensive base and rings and call it good?

@zoidelux 7 лет назад

with tps rings, they actually want you to tighten the marked side all the way first. so you should only have a gap on one side with tps rings. according per their instructions anyway

@theclaymore5150 11 лет назад

Hey T-Rex, hope the vacation was as enjoyable as the vids show. Quick question "sort of" in the domain of the scope/optics...a lot of ballistic calcs default the optic height at 1.5". My question pertaining to that measurement is, are they defaulting to a "typical" center of Objective Lens measured to center of bore. I know you'll probably get into that with a lot more detail in future vids in the series. I'm just curious since a lot of us are using 20moa bases and diff. ring heights.

@philipcrawford7415 5 лет назад

Steven Segul, TPS designed their rings to tighten one side, level the reticle, then tighten the other side and their rings will not cant the scope. Good video and I agree with you on those leveling devices, especially the little level on the turret. I've seen scopes with reticles that weren't square with the turret. And don't beat me up I was just kidding about Steven Segul lol

@Cogzed 11 лет назад

Great video and very informative! I'm about to mount a scope on my .338 so this was perfect timing. Thanks buddy and keep em coming! :D

@heathmcdowell3286 4 года назад

If you used his advise on that .338 you are going to have problems with the rings staying put........

@fimfengius 6 лет назад

Hi Rex and many thanks for your fantastic videos! I wonder however if you have done any testing on the Leupold QR base system for long range shooting?

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

I never had to do it, but i suppose its possible where bedding may be required if it isn't mating up propperly.

@wtfisthathandlelollll 11 лет назад

Hey, any guys out there that need a spotter or something? I'm in Southern AB, don't quite have the funds to get my hands on a weapons system or peripheral equipment just yet but I want to keep learning and put into practice what this amazing series has taught me so far. So, if you need a spotter let me know! Obviously I still need to learn spotter/shooter team communication and all the other things Rex hasn't yet made vids for but I believe the foundation is very strong. PM me on RU-vid! :)

@DDFram 10 лет назад

One way I level the scope is to use shims, feeler gauges, or even a deck of cards. I level the flat bottom of the scope to the picatinney rail by inserting the gauge, cards, or flat steel bar under the flat bottom of the scope and the rail. It works every time. I think it it better than using levels, as long as you have a rail on the action. This won't work if the top of the action is round.

@shanebroomhall 10 лет назад

Hey Rex, interesting to watch thank you. I would not have thought to locktite the rings to the rail. I am curious about what your impression of removable barrels on firearms are. I have Thompson Dimension, and am looking at getting the removable bridge mount that stays with the barrel and is supposed to keep your zero as one option. Another is to put a weaver type rail on the rifle and have a different scope for each barrel, e.g. one for 204 ruger, one for 223 and one for 308. I will be next year getting a 7mm08 or 7mm Rem Mag based on what I have seen from your videos so far to see how far I can push my marksmanship. How do QR rings go when taken on and off a rail, and what are you thoughts on this. My reasons for liking removable barrels is the way that our firearms licensing works here is I can have a rifle and several barrels/calibers more easily than multiple single caliber rifles, where we have to justify each purchase to the police/firearms registry. Cheers Shane Broomhall Hobart Australia.

@QRFCombatVET 11 лет назад

Thank u for emailing me back with such great detail.

@TiborasaurusRex 11 лет назад

Yeah, 1.5" is typical for most centerfire sporting rifles. Mine are often a little higher than that - my .338 has a scope height of 2.25".

@nathanpaul2334 4 года назад

What are your thoughts on lapping the rings and such? Some guys i work with say its mandatory. But ive seen a few guys along with you on here that dont do it. Id much rather not do that.