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I need to do an update video to clear up some questions. See pinned comment for details on the amount of ATF you use and what to do if you have startup trouble the next time you use your equipment. thanks.
In this video I show the my method to prepping a small engine (in this case a generator) for long term storage using automatic transmission fluid
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@johnrodriguez1145
@johnrodriguez1145 3 года назад
Can give me an approximate amount of ATF you used..like 1 ounce...5 ounces??? Just don't want to over fill. Thanks
@Lordofjunk
@Lordofjunk 3 года назад
This is the question I wish I would have answered in the video. I need to do a follow up soon. The amount varies depending on what kind of generator and the style of carburetor is on it. I'm probably putting 2 oz of so in it. However, don't worry about putting in too much. If you put in too much, you WILL have trouble starting it next time. But all you have to do in that case is loosen the bolt on the bottom of the fuel bowl and drain out the ATF. Then tighten the bolt and it will fire right up. Thanks for your question.
@marsflee3815
@marsflee3815 3 года назад
@@Lordofjunk Very good advice. I had my generator stored for 3 years without starting it. My secret is doing exactly what this video suggested, but instead of transmission fluid, I sprayed some antitrust lubricant and sealed everything. This Texas ice storm forced me to take my generator out. I knew it was going to give trouble starting because of the oily stuff I left in it, so I drained out as much oily stuff as I could, put the drain bolt back in the carburetor, then put some carburetor starter, it turned on on the second crank. Easy.
@thelibertarian7381
@thelibertarian7381 3 года назад
Good stuff!
@thelibertarian7381
@thelibertarian7381 3 года назад
Good stuff!
@DoroTheExplorer
@DoroTheExplorer 2 года назад
@@Lordofjunk any update as of today? still good?
@buffyporson1
@buffyporson1 10 месяцев назад
Was never a problem until we were sold the gas/ corn ethanol concoction. Corn farmers love it but forget it as a fuel.
@KenWeston
@KenWeston 10 месяцев назад
This is an interesting tip and makes sense. I would *strongly* recommend that everyone watching *only* use ethanol-free gasoline for their small motors, especially ones that sit for long periods. Stabil really helped me, but I found out the hard way that spending the extra dollar per gallon for the ethanol free, and driving further to get it, saved me countless hours of fixing.
@wakemeupfacto3264
@wakemeupfacto3264 10 месяцев назад
wish i could find it haved looked and can not find in a 100 rad but it is a great tip !
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 10 месяцев назад
The other key is non-California compliant storage containers for your gas. If your gas can is vented (like nearly anything you can buy today), gas doesn’t last more than 2-3 months. An old-school Jerry can that seal up tight with ethanol-free gas and Stabil lasts at least a year.
@brasspick
@brasspick 10 месяцев назад
Gasohol is extremely unpopular among lawncare workers in my area.
@barry8215
@barry8215 9 месяцев назад
Marine gas is ethanol free. I use it in my small engines. Much better than regular gas.
@terryhill4732
@terryhill4732 9 месяцев назад
Your exactly right I started using 93 octane ethanol free in my 2 stroke engine weed eater and chainsaw and the way they run made it well worth the cost, I also run a tankful in my truck along with marvel mystery oil and what a difference it makes in all of their running, also put MMO in the 2 stroke engine too
@harryblackburn9556
@harryblackburn9556 10 месяцев назад
I'll go you one better. I'm 71 and have been using ATF as a fuel system cleaner most of my life. I've never yet had a problem with fuel injectors clogging up and a bonus it will clean combustion chambers of carbon buildup as well. Many years ago GM sold a similar product that was poured in the Carb. Smoked like a train till it burned off but did the job. 6-8 oz. every 6-8 weeks does quite well. Reason behind this line of thought is ATF burns at a hotter temp than gas. Got my first ASE cert in 74 working at a Pontiac/Buick dealership. An old acquaintance of my dads that worked there told me about this ATF. Doesn't matter what kind whatever is cheapest.
@normanschwartzjr2564
@normanschwartzjr2564 10 месяцев назад
I'm 73 and my dad taught me to use ATF in the fuel..
@dangeroustoman
@dangeroustoman 10 месяцев назад
Do you pour it in carb or in fuel tank?
@heffedirte6243
@heffedirte6243 10 месяцев назад
Can't use the synthetic in anything with an o2 sensor
@AB-vc7ox
@AB-vc7ox 9 месяцев назад
I'm 65, I remember people mixing ATF with cheaper non-detergent motor oil to get the detergent effect.
@1AXMRDR
@1AXMRDR 9 месяцев назад
I'm 62 and remember pouring a small stream of atf down the carb of a car while it's running to help clean up the valves. White smoke billowed out the pipes for a minute. Old motorhead taught me to do that.
@donaldshimkus539
@donaldshimkus539 Год назад
Lord of Junk huh? I thought that was me. Your a man after my own heart, saving the lives of countless pieces of machinery. Thanks bro.
@jimireland7299
@jimireland7299 Год назад
2 stroke oil will do the same thing on 2 stroke engines, chain saws, pumps that sort of tool. Amazing!
@daveyhofer7926
@daveyhofer7926 7 месяцев назад
This is A 1. You're a good teacher, just common sense.goes a long way. You're the person who will go the distance. God bless.
@trustbuster23
@trustbuster23 Год назад
Good tip. For any small engine, get the ethanol-free gas if you can. It remains stable a whole lot longer than gas with ethanol in it.
@joseywells9616
@joseywells9616 Год назад
Get propane it last 10 years and cleaner
@dubmob151
@dubmob151 Год назад
@@joseywells9616 I finish off the run-dry by using propane fed into the intake to allow the engine to run completely out and purge all traces of gasoline from the carb. That works on start up also with fuel pump systems that need to run for a while to prime up, so it doesn't need to be cranked for a long time.
@DougJohns
@DougJohns 10 месяцев назад
I have never heard of that before... interesting :)@@dubmob151
@stevejennings1373
@stevejennings1373 Год назад
Learned this from old school mechanic, put a quart of ATF in the fuel tank of your vehicle (20 gallon) every 3 to 4 months and it decarbon the engine and cleans the entire fuel system. I use this method on my motorcycle as well. Never smokes and runs fine. Apparently ATF is about a 5 to 10 weight oil and very high detergent and that's why it works so well. It really is a cheap tune up in a bottle that really works!!
@brucerogers3253
@brucerogers3253 Год назад
It may clean the engine so good it may start leaking oil around the seals cuz some of that varnish seals the oil leaks
@joebledsoe257
@joebledsoe257 Год назад
A gallon of diesel fuel per 10 gallons of gas tank volume will do the same. Do it or your method when you are going to be on the X-way and at higher rpm for extended time. The junk gets hotter and burns off better.
@firstjohn3123
@firstjohn3123 Год назад
I've also used Marvel Mystery oil as well, but ATF does last longer. I keep Stabil in my fuel tank, but swap it out every 6 months. With some metal gas tanks, they can rust from the inside out, since most tanks are vented. Fuel rotation is part of my spring/fall maint. routine. Good tip though. 👍🏼👍🏼
@Patriot-bn9om
@Patriot-bn9om 9 месяцев назад
Old school is good school. Even though I had turned off the fuel valve and let my generator run until the fuel was exhausted, there still just enough fuel in the carburetor bowl to foul the cut-off solenoid and maybe other carb parts as well. This was after just 3-4 months since last use. A small amount of ATF in there is GENIUS. Thank you for this tip.
@kenhurley4441
@kenhurley4441 Год назад
Another old timers trick is putting a little atf in the tank. It'll lubricate the upper cylinder and the rings on the piston.
@yellow_panther
@yellow_panther Год назад
what amount do you put in the tank? ATF:Fuel ratio?
@kenhurley4441
@kenhurley4441 Год назад
@@yellow_panther When fluids were cheaper 2-4 ounces @ gallon.
@JER5389
@JER5389 Год назад
Used to pour ATF down the carb of cars at the dealership back in the day. Smoked like hell but it would clean up the top end. Pour it down the gullett until it just about stalled then stop and bring rpms back up and repeat. That's how we did it back in the 1900s anyway.
@JohnDoe-pv2iu
@JohnDoe-pv2iu Год назад
Another one is to mix ATF and Chainsaw bar oil. If you have an engine that you want to store for a while, squirt a few pumps from an oil can in each cylinder. Turn the engine over a couple of times and replace the plugs. Back off the rockers so the springs aren't compressed and wrap it up good with plastic (and a sock full of kitty litter in the bags) and that engine will be good for years. Another good use is if you buy a used engine from a yard, a squirt of ATF in each cylinder will clean the cylinder and give it more sealing to start easier. When I worked at a junkyard in the 80s, we would just pour some through the carburetor. You would get an engine installed and if it didn't hit on the first spin, two or three of the guys would yell 'Give it some Compression'! That meant to give it a dose of ATF. I hope these uses are handy, John
@kramsdrawde8159
@kramsdrawde8159 2 года назад
On the older cars the transmission modulator valve when it had a busted diaphram would leak and you see white smoke galore, but it cleans the heck out of engine internally, witnessed by engine tear-down...YES ATF is great and does keeps seals soft and combustion chamber clean and also lubricates. BTW I love to go junkin too in my younger days and the wife always complained, after Hurricane Ida all my junking supplied almost everything we needed , she said she would never again complain about the stuff I keep !!! Only problem is finding WHAT you need WHEN you need it !!! LOL !!!
@tomcampbell6384
@tomcampbell6384 Год назад
IKR!!!! Now where did I put those float bowl gaskets for that old briggs???
@petersack5074
@petersack5074 Год назад
yup.....murphys' law. Clean / clear out the garage-shop, and the next day, you needed that hose/fitting/plastic tub/etc for another project....
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk Год назад
Back in tech school ,one of the kids bought a 400$ American land yacht, it might have been a Lincoln. Anyways,we ran the washer bottle hose to the air intake and filled it with ATF. We woulda made James Bond proud 😂
@dirtyaznstyle4156
@dirtyaznstyle4156 3 года назад
Sounds good, I got like 3 gallons of slightly used mercon v sitting around. I use it for stuck fasteners, wiping down my shovels and picks etc. now I got something else! And I’m all about one man’s trash is another man’s treasure
@Bill-wz6tw
@Bill-wz6tw 7 месяцев назад
Dude that is a brilliant tip for storing away a genny and I like your style to
@jayrodriguez5654
@jayrodriguez5654 Год назад
This works fantastic i used this method a few years ago on my generator. pulled out my generator for hurricane Ian fresh gas and a few pulls a puff of smoke and ran like a champ. my buddies dad is an oldschool mechanic and suggested it to me and now i will continue to do this on other small engines. I like to tinker with small engines as well working on a murry rider i found in the trash after the storm.
@grizzle251
@grizzle251 Год назад
OLD SCHOOL Is right, my family had boats back in the 1960's,cabin cruisers, at the end of teh seasonwe would "fog out" teh engine bu pouring ATF into the carburetor while the engine was running at idle until it chockedd it out, this would coat the carb and the entire internal combustion parts and in the spring it would take a shot of starting fluid but it would fire over with a puff of white smoke and be good to go. We would always clean teh plugs after the first use.
@shinola228
@shinola228 Год назад
I have a harbor freight two stroke generator that l had in storage for over 12 years. It wouldn't start after that time due to a bad capacitor. I then read that it is common for capacitors to go bad if left unused. I'm just mentioning that for those who have engines in long term storage. BTW it started up and ran fine with the new cap.
@markrice41
@markrice41 10 месяцев назад
It is a good trick. My grandad taught me this trick many years ago. I can still smell the ATF when I hear you talk about it.
@flilguy
@flilguy 10 месяцев назад
My dad had the resources to buy just about any push mower he wanted. We used a lawn mower somebody threw out. In the beginning, it started well. By the time I was in high school, it didn't start that well although it still worked. The old farmers in the Midwest use ATF for a lot of things. They even spray it in the wheel wells and underbodies to prevent rust in the winter. I use Iso-Heet in the red bottle to store my lawn mower over the winter. It contains isopropyl alcohol and fights varnish. I will share this with my relatives that ended up with my parent's generator.
@michaelbenoit248
@michaelbenoit248 Год назад
This same trick works with putting some engine oil in the gas, all you’re doing is diluting the Ethonol, & preventing it from clogging up. If you take apart a 2-stroke carburetor from a larger engine with an actual bowl since the oil is in it, & not just straight gas the oil has sulfur in it, & it’s the reason why old Diesel lasts so long, & why diesel has the insane shelf life it has. ATF has good detergents & sulfur in it making it an amazing fuel system cleaner, or stabilizer.
@jamesglenn520
@jamesglenn520 Год назад
Actually the diesel fuel today is absolutely terrible. If you let it sit Untreated it grows Algae and plugs up everything. A friend of ours has a Frieghtliner that she had to let sit for about 2 months because of her medical situation. When she was clear to drive it cost her almost 2 thousand dollars to get the fuel system cleaned because of Algae.
@paullageman4782
@paullageman4782 Год назад
I worked for a Ford dealer in the late 60s. One of the top mechanics used ATF for noisy lifters .
@myronadams2101
@myronadams2101 10 месяцев назад
Probably a good cheap trick but you should pull the spark plug/plugs and put a couple tablespoons full into each cylinder and spin the engine over a few times to coat the cylinder walls. Rust prevention and will help with stuck rings from storage. And if you’re from anywhere mud dauber wasps are present, wrapping the entire thing with stretch wrap (the stuff they wrap pallets with to ship) to keep them from building nests in critical parts. Something else to do for storing equipment for emergency use, keep enough oil to service it, an oil filter (if applicable) and a new air filter. Many times foam air filters will break down during storage or damaged by vermin and parts may be hard to find with an emergency on the way
@louiselachance8365
@louiselachance8365 3 года назад
My husband is driving highway trucks sinse 1990 ....and he puts 1/2 quart of atf trans.oil in his tanks every times he fuel .....with every truck that he owned.......and i recall that one of them........the engine had over 1,600,000 km.. ..no engine overhaul ....... and still pulling and working when he sold it........
@DigD97
@DigD97 Год назад
Same here
@0my
@0my Год назад
dang ... I assume those are all naturally aspirated trucks with fuel injectors?
@richardoakley8800
@richardoakley8800 Год назад
Why put atf in a diesel?
@jaybirdls1
@jaybirdls1 Год назад
@@richardoakley8800 for lubrication of the high pressure fuel pump an injectors because modern, ultra low sulfur, diesel doesn’t lubricate the same as the old stuff. Probably not good for the exhaust filters, but if your diesel doesn’t have that stuff then the ATF is going to help keep things clean and slippery.
@rjlkc4668
@rjlkc4668 Год назад
Jay birds… the explanation I’d gotten for putting atf in the fuel as well when the injectors started acting up.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman Год назад
I went through all our small engines this year and put a shutoff valve on every one of them. Was so sick of worrying about if the fuel would last or not, even with additives and such. Should have been made mandatory on all small engines for the sake of storage and the environment.
@tomg6284
@tomg6284 Год назад
Class truck with 855 cubic inch cummins. Wet sleeve. Dumped all coolant out. Filled up system with ATF. Run it for 150 miles never got hot. Parked for 10 years. Put new batts. Fuel and started right up. ATF works every time.
@rexmericle5068
@rexmericle5068 Год назад
Great video. Back in the day (I'm 70) we did similar to mowers using Marvel Mystery Oil. I grew up in northeast PA where winters are long . Now living in NC and this reminds me I need to do exactly that to my generator. Thanks
@vincemajestyk9497
@vincemajestyk9497 Год назад
I used to use MMO to pickle the engines too.
@tomcampbell6384
@tomcampbell6384 Год назад
Me too! I put that sh#t in everything!!....😉
@tomcampbell6384
@tomcampbell6384 Год назад
Oh! And it smells nice 😋
@vincemajestyk9497
@vincemajestyk9497 Год назад
@@tomcampbell6384 Yeah, I think the wintergreen oil is the 'secret' ingredient. They used to say it would 'micro-polish' surfaces. It has very mildly acidic ph characteristics.
@dougreames605
@dougreames605 Год назад
Hell yeah !!
@thenarrowpathoftruth9443
@thenarrowpathoftruth9443 Год назад
Awesome. Ain’t too many things I love better than “old school.” Like treating sore throats with Gentian Violet. Ya know? Or ballpoint ink stains with Fels Naptha.
@facereader99
@facereader99 Год назад
I am full time in small engines repair for the last 15 years. I agree with the concept of having some kind of oil in the carburetor for long storage. It can be ATF, or any thin oil, like 5W30, 10W30, even just 30. I would like to add that some carburetors have a drain bolt in addition to the main bolt holding the fuel bowl to the carburetor body. If so, I would drain the oil first till the fresh gas from the tank comes in, then close the drain bolt. If no drain bolt, no problem. Just loosen the main bolt gently, let us say first, 1/32 of a turn, or in 1/32nd increments, till the oil begins to seep out.
@markbaker1843
@markbaker1843 Год назад
agree before I ever heard of Sta bil, Star Tron, Lucas, etc. when I wanted to mothball a small engine I'd just mix a little plain SAE 30 into the fuel, pour some into the spark plug hole if wanted to go crazy. Spray interior of metal gas tank with WD-40 to prevent rust, and where no fuel gauge was present to interfere, place a piece of plastic bag under the gas cap.
@oday3514
@oday3514 Год назад
Drain the fuel tank, then drain the float bowl (usually there is a float drain screw - sometimes there is even a float drain hose). Spray fogging oil (2-stroke oil in an aerosol spray can) into the carburetor throat, then spray fogging oil into the float bowl (shoot it up the float drain hose). Tighten the float drain screw. Remove the spark plug, and spray fogging oil into the cylinder head. Crank the engine a couple times. Replace the sparkplug. DONE.
@bruceglock7260
@bruceglock7260 Год назад
That’s what we did for prepping inboard and outboard motors on boats for winter storage. Works like a charm, never had a hard start with any customers equipment.
@rcnelson
@rcnelson Год назад
Yours is probably the best way to store an engine, but it's labor-intensive. With my snowblowers, generators, old tractor etc. I drain the old gas (if any), put in Stabil-ized fresh gas, run the engine briefly, and shut it down for the season. (I change oil too at the same time.) After 25 years of doing this on engines of all types I've never had a problem.
@larrysmiths1
@larrysmiths1 Год назад
Looks like a lot more work than the ATF, sorry.
@57WillysCJ
@57WillysCJ Год назад
@@larrysmiths1 Most people just fog the carb. Take the air filter off with the engine running. Shut off fuel supply and spray fogging oil into breather till it dies. The biggest help is to use non ethanol fuel. If you can't find it in regular octane check out the 92 octane as many times it does not contain ethanol.
@mjoygreen6592
@mjoygreen6592 Год назад
why can't you just crank the motor up once a month and let it run awhile?
@alvingoodman6539
@alvingoodman6539 10 месяцев назад
You remind me of my dad. When he died at age 91, we had the estate sale. He had 8 weed eaters, 10 lawnmowers, about four air compressors and several other pieces of equipment. He had picked them out of the garbage that his neighbors were throwing away. I can’t tell you how many of his neighbors came to his house at the sale and heard them say, “why, that used to mine and it broke so I threw it away”. Then they would tell us how it ended up in his sale….and they all worked.
@dirtyharry5878
@dirtyharry5878 Год назад
that's a great idea, I've used ATF in my fuel tanks for my Peterbilt since the 1970s and it's worked wonders. so you are spot on brotha.
@kenrudder9784
@kenrudder9784 Год назад
So it’s hood in diesel?
@dirtyharry5878
@dirtyharry5878 Год назад
@@kenrudder9784 if you're asking if it's good for Diesel engines!! YES! ATF contains detergents that will clean out small passages like injectors. I also use it in my gas engines in the oil prior to an oil change to clean any particulates that may be in my engine passages.
@Lupgaroo666
@Lupgaroo666 10 месяцев назад
Cool trick for winterizing, cleaning engines. Check out some of the other comments too. I'd probably try just adding some to a little fuel ànd run it till it runs out. A shut off valve is good to put in line if possible. I accidentally discovered that with my riding mower that has a float issue. It just let's the fuel keep flowing when the engine is off so I put à shutoff in between the tank and carb ànd run it till it dies when I finish mowing. Its now over 15 years and it starts right up every season. Never had these issues before leaded gasoline was taken off the market. Aluminum/pot metal carburetors don't like unleaded or ethanol. In the late 80s we were burning MOGAS in the gasoline engines in the Air Force. I believe it was basically leaded gasoline. If you ever pull a carb apart that had unleaded left init you'll see all the whitish colored oxidation...basically Aluminum rust...clogging up everything. Nasty stuff. I left fuel in a motorcycle I had one winter and it never ran as well again. My tiller has a shut off built into the carburetor, but it gums up because its the same metal. You need a line shut off that won't get corroded by the fuel. Thanks for the great tip! The comments you got were insightful too. Long term Experienced people are a great resource. I'm sure the repair shops hate that you shared this knowledge if they are anything like air-conditioning people. They make it a practice to troll. Thanks again!
@71160000
@71160000 Год назад
I've got a generator that's over 12 years old and starts on the first pull. Every time I use it when finished I shut off the fuel valve and let it run dry. Open the valve and pull start it easily the next year or two. I've never bothered with oiling the cylinders just keeping the carburator clean and empty. I think by the time the engine has turned over a couple of time by the starting pull there's oil available. Unless you're getting moisture into the engine it should stay clean between uses even a year or two apart. And mine has had plenty of use during power outages. The best investment I've made was around four years ago when I purchased a whole house generator. So far in that time I think we had one power outage that lasted three hours. Who knew that buing a new generator would fix power company outages.
@smorgdonkey
@smorgdonkey Год назад
You know, I like the peace of mind that comes with running the generator every few months.
@condor5635
@condor5635 Год назад
After draining fuel like you do I just remove the drain bolt on the carb and drain fuel out of float area. All of them typically have this fuel drain bolt. I then use my compressor and lightly pressurize the main fuel tank (use a towel to seal tank) which then gets air through the carb and allow all fuel out that doesn’t come out when removing the bolt. You’ll see several drops sputtering out the hole. Done this for years. Never store gas in the generator - Stabil or not. Mine starts on the 1st pull. Great video.
@happycamper5900
@happycamper5900 6 месяцев назад
Condor, great idea! I use 2 cycle motor oil instead of ATF but I like your idea better. Thanks.
@billfrederickfrederick2791
@billfrederickfrederick2791 Год назад
Some good advice here ,ethanol free gas is best of course....another trick I always do is after the engine is stopped I always pull it through to TDC on the compression stroke to make sure that both intake and exhaust valves are closed (on a single cyl engine)
@diaperjoeisaped1723
@diaperjoeisaped1723 Год назад
Same here. I run only ethanol free fuel in everything. It cost more but saves a lot of headaches.
@frankwoodbery2473
@frankwoodbery2473 Год назад
Yup, I also use ethanol free year round.
@brianw6645
@brianw6645 7 месяцев назад
How do you know when the piston stroke is at top dead center?
@kennethscott820
@kennethscott820 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip!Keep me posted with more old school tricks especially on lawn mowers.
@Graybeard_
@Graybeard_ Год назад
I own three timberland properties in two states and a sawmill (with a Kohler V-twin 747cc). I have multiple chainsaws, generator, pressure washer, and brush cutter. All my engines over winter with fuel in them. I always run premium, non-ethanol in both my four strokes and two stroke engines from the day I get them. I've never had an engine not start and run fine the next year, since 1977. I do do regular maintenance like changing the fuel filters, blowing out the air filters, changing plugs and crank oil, but other than that no issues. I'm not recommending anyone doing this, just sharing my experience.
@111000100101001
@111000100101001 10 месяцев назад
You’re a good man with a plan! Thank you for sharing that tip. You make a valid point about atf sitting in a trans for years and keeping things clean.
@robertpeters9438
@robertpeters9438 7 месяцев назад
This is the best advice I have heard for long term storage!
@stephenwalton7079
@stephenwalton7079 Год назад
Stabil has a red and a green product. Green is sold for marine applications and is better for long range storage as it actually combines with the gas. The red puts a film across the surface of the fuel to exclude oxygen. Green does that and more.
@precinct1baltimorecountyre588
We use to add to car crank case to loosen up stuck valves pumping up the hydraulic lifters. Good trick
@glennmiskulin5379
@glennmiskulin5379 Год назад
I've been in engine repair forever I learned something today thanks
@Jayson90210
@Jayson90210 Год назад
Thanks for this video! ATF is amazing stuff..I get a long tube and and drop some ATF into the bottom of the door panels on my stored Mustang to keep them from rusting. Worked great on my Ford Escape also that's known for door panel rust. As far as storing my generator, I just use Marvel's mystery Oil in the gas and run it dry as you suggested. 8 years old and went 4 years sitting in a storage without being started and amazingly, started right up.
@martinsopchak8218
@martinsopchak8218 Год назад
Good info video. I own a small engine repair shop. I always tell my customers to store a extra spark plug in a zip bag to the generator.
@jjjsmith2497
@jjjsmith2497 Год назад
Throw in a carb kit too🙂
@therealjammit
@therealjammit Год назад
My method is to drain the gas and run the engine until it burns off the leftover gas. I then put a quart of ATF in the gas tank and crank it a few times. I then take the remaining ATF in the gas tank and pour it back into the ATF container (only use that container for gas, no refill transmission).
@MMPCTV
@MMPCTV Год назад
Great video. I really like hearing about people recycling stuff. I do the same with computers. People throw them away for the dumbest reasons.
@chriscarter7182
@chriscarter7182 Год назад
OMG I read your comment and my first thought was, "you put atf in, what, your hard drives, maybe the power supply!"? Sorry,,,,I guess I've had one too many beers! Your comment caught me off guard, I'm not criticizing you! I still have my original IBM PC, vintage 1986ish. 64k hard soldered to the mother board with a 576k daughter card, 640K total. I died and went to heaven when I installed my Seagate ST238 30mb hard drive! I still have the green phosphor display, but I don't have the video card for it anymore, it got lost when I upgraded(?) to a cga video card. The keyboard for that weighs more than my laptop!
@YeOldeTowneCryer
@YeOldeTowneCryer 10 месяцев назад
This is good advice. For something that will be stored longer than 24 months, I will begin doing the same. For shorter term I highly suggest using only gasoline that is 100% gas. NO ALCOHOL. NO ETHANOL. And of course use the stabil. For 24 months I suggest a double dose. Ethanol made a horrible mess in the gas tank of a car I stored.
@cphank3722
@cphank3722 Год назад
For small 2 cycle engines with a primer, usually pumping the primer sucks fuel from the tank, through the carb then the primer and back to the tank. Disconnect the line at the carb fuel inlet and use the primer to suck ATF into and through the carb. It will keep the carb clean and preserve the diaphragms for storage.
@simonallan9941
@simonallan9941 Год назад
And being 2stroke fuel, it would only leave a layer of oil on the inside of the carburetor to stop corrosion.
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 Год назад
I wonder if using straight 2-stroke oil in place of ATF would work as well? It would have the advantage that it's deigned to be burnt in an engine so you don't need to worry about it leaving any tars behind. Or maybe engine oil? Makers of engine oil have to assume it will get burnt eventually and (IIRC) most of what uses it up in normal service is the accumulation of products of combustion, which doesn't happen when the engine is in storage and isn't running.
@CuttinInIdaho
@CuttinInIdaho Год назад
That is a fantastic idea for diaphragms. I leave my tanks full and start and run them monthly for a while to keep the diaphragms coated. This will allow me to stop having to do this.
@MrNorthstar50
@MrNorthstar50 Год назад
Most 2-stroke shops say it's best to use two stroke oil in the tank only and use the primer bulb and prime it. Then when you're ready to start it the next year just pour out the oil and pour new fuel in there works great.
@lakerdigital
@lakerdigital 9 месяцев назад
2 stroke oil primed through the carb is the way to go for 2 strokes. That's what I've heard and that's what I'm about to do.@@benjaminshropshire2900
@tomschneider4870
@tomschneider4870 10 месяцев назад
Dude, Your my hero. I've never tried this but will. I do drain my gas tanks and run the fuel out of the motor until it stalls but that is hit or miss. I have 3 generators now that are operational and just picked up three more from the side of the road that need freshened up and a 2" water pump. I usually rebuild them and either keep em or share them with family or neighbors as I also live in a hurricane prone area. Thanks for the tip.
@cphank3722
@cphank3722 Год назад
Squirt the ATF into the fuel line while the engine is still running and it will smoke a lot just before the engine dies. Then continue with cranking the engine a few times to be sure the oil fills the carb. This also lubricates the valves and cylinder walls for storage.
@eddiejames9863
@eddiejames9863 Год назад
I have heard of people using ATF in cars and trucks in the fuel tank as well as the crankcase to keep everything clean and running smooth
@claudehebert3131
@claudehebert3131 Год назад
Basically you did what the airplane guys calls "pickling an engine". They use a special purpose oil and fake spark plugs that are simply plugs with water absorbing crystals (think silica-gel). They also plug all the air inlets to the engine (carb and vents) to prevent moisture from entering the engine. I've seen a CL-215 coming out of pickling and it was quite a smoke show.
@jamesworthy8916
@jamesworthy8916 Год назад
Yes those big old P&W R2800 radial engines in the CL215's are smokers when first starting up. But great engines, they were built before WW2 and continuously overhauled for longer use. Part's were becoming scarce cause they don't make a lot of the part's for many years.
@rodneyw849
@rodneyw849 Год назад
My generator with Premium Non-oxigenated gas with Seafoam was good after 6 years. Started and ran twice a year through the 6 years, put a plastic bag on the filler then installed the cap with fuel shut off no air can enter or leave the tank. Vented is where fuel goes bad pulling in moisture as temps change. I will add some trans fluid, cause that makes sense also.
@rodneyw849
@rodneyw849 Год назад
I actually use the plastic bag and shut off the fuel on all of my small engine mowers etc that have a screw on cap to keep the fuel fresh. And again only Premium Non ethanol/oxygenated fuel.
@jerryholmberg135
@jerryholmberg135 Год назад
I use atf in my high pressure paint sprayer so don’t have to take it apart to get paint residue out works great!
@jimmymundane1084
@jimmymundane1084 10 месяцев назад
Alright! I have all the necessary components to perform this prep. Gonna do the generator, tiller and outboard. Thanks for the tip.
@nathanlambshead4778
@nathanlambshead4778 Год назад
Rural North Easterner here, from ice and snow country. I have had portable generators hooked up to my house for decades (I had a transfer switch installed years back) I buy a new one about every 10 years or so. I always run them at least once a month for about 15 minutes, and about 4 times a year I hook the house up and run the electricity as well. Exercise the magnates that way. They always start up for me. But if I was to leave it for a year, this sounds like a good plan.
@ebla83
@ebla83 Год назад
Very good idea. ATF also works well if you have an engine that sat with water in it and locked up. Drank the old oil, and FILL up the crankcase and cylinder with ATF and diesel Let it set a month. Then slowly work it to loosen it.
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews Год назад
You could fill it with piss and get the same or better results. You could also try nothing and get the same results.
@graemedalgleish8944
@graemedalgleish8944 Год назад
The fuel/oil mix I have for my two stroke chain saw has never gone bad.
@jjano2320
@jjano2320 Год назад
I give a squirt of 2 cycle oil in my old truck and tractors.
@wakemeupfacto3264
@wakemeupfacto3264 10 месяцев назад
good tip as a mech back in the day i used atf to swell valve seals in motors that sat for a while just poured a few teaspoons down the carb when i got em fired up
@SirGolfalot-
@SirGolfalot- Год назад
Good video. I'm going to try it. Also A light coat of ATF fluid will bring your rubber vehicle window seals back to life. and Your rubber ball joints. Some people add some ATF to the vehicle's oil and run it for a while just before they change the oil. There are videos for all of this.
@jpol3808
@jpol3808 11 месяцев назад
I stored a Chevy van for 3 years with a full tank and added stable. It started and ran without a hiccup. I did re add the stable annually! That's the secret. Add annually and you can store fuel filled thanks and engines for a real long time. Just my observation! Later!
@rayhageman
@rayhageman Год назад
I am an old school auto mechanic and I use ATF as lube in air motors and I put it in my motor oil a couple days prior to an oil change. It cleans, Lubricates and keeps the seals supple.
@maureenmillard4241
@maureenmillard4241 Год назад
I used ATF in my MGCGT 4 speed manual o/d gearbox when I experienced slight slippage ,drained the 20/50 oil,filled with ATF the o/d worked perfectly left it in . It was said the Volvo P 1800 running the same box recommended ATF.not sure if that was true,but it worked in my C. Cheers Mal.
@houndsmanone4563
@houndsmanone4563 Год назад
Man, I wish I had known this old-school method years ago. I could have sae myself a lot of heartaches trying to keep carbs from getting so mucked up then ultimately wanting to smash the carb with a steel mallot. This was a GREAT video and so very informative. For that, I am now a NEW SUBSCRIBER!! Thanks again.
@marvelaturraz5405
@marvelaturraz5405 Год назад
I second what Houndsman said!! Thank you so much, Lord of junk!!
@darmok-hm6jx
@darmok-hm6jx Год назад
Me too!
@Eyes0penNoFear
@Eyes0penNoFear Год назад
Me three!
@danray9744
@danray9744 Год назад
Kerosene is better
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 Год назад
@@danray9744 Good antifreeze in the winter too...back in the 40's
@markg1247
@markg1247 6 месяцев назад
Boat owners use fogging oil, Stabil or QuickSilver brand both work great. Spray some in the fuel hose like you did with the ATF, spray some in the carb and pull the spark plug and fog the cylinder. Protects against oxidation, and being a spray fog it coats everything pretty thoroughly. I did a four cylinder Mercury and used about a 1/4 of the can. Nothing wrong with the ATF trick though, use what you got.
@mrmatt7210
@mrmatt7210 Год назад
Great tip. For all my small engines I choose the option of ethanol free "marine gas" at my local gas station. Basically this is the old fashioned unleaded that dont have the addition of ethanol. Ethanol has ruined several of my small engine carbs prior to making this swap. I
@RJ-sr5dv
@RJ-sr5dv 10 месяцев назад
Another carb preservation trick that a brilliant Motor head taught me.. Put about 3 OZ of TW3 two stroke oil into 3 gallons of none ethanol gas.
@DougJohns
@DougJohns 10 месяцев назад
Good trick to remember ... thanks for sharing. I'm about the same age as your father and one of the things I have found is to ensure my small engines never come in contact with gasoline with ethenol and a shutoff valve is helpful when storing for a long time you can simple let the bowl run dry.
@petersack5074
@petersack5074 Год назад
i agree, Mr Junk Lord. Old fashioned = LOGIC. IF it is a 'winner' , then let us just do it. Modern business, just is into 'selling' stuff. NOT re-cycling, repairing nor saving OUR EARTH. Way to go !, some of us, are in the 'reuse' department ; which is missing completely, in this modern, cheap, chinese plastic use-once, throw-away world. I have re-done carbs, on lotsa mowers/generators; some of which i had to use the wire wheel on bench grinder, to clean off crud, from stuck needle valves/floats. And vinegar soak the rest, to remove other stuck stuff (ethanol) . Good day to A L L ! ALBERTA Canada
@tslim250
@tslim250 Год назад
So to elaborate, i think this method is a solid idea. I mean i've had engines sit for years with just premium gas and they fire right up no problem but lets be real, you get some crappy gas with moisture or too much ethanol and its game over for that little carb. Doing this is basically just returning the factory oil coating on the internals of the carb before storage and tbh that little amount of atf burned at first start up isn't going to do a lick of damage to anything. this is a great tip for super long term storage no doubt and i'm adding it to my tool belt.
@alancummings5008
@alancummings5008 Год назад
I use my generator anytime i need ourdoor power. (ie; trim hedges, blow leaves, electric chain saw, etc). Generator is over 20 years old and starts on 1st or 2nd pull. 14 hp b&s. I do keep sta-bil in the fuel. I mounted it on a garden wagon so it is handy to move around.
@fabfabber
@fabfabber 3 года назад
OR, you can do like me-----use STA-BIL and or SeaFoam, crank up the generator, lawn mower and any small engine once every month or two and let it run for a while. Been doing this for years and never had a problem starting the engines.
@Lordofjunk
@Lordofjunk 3 года назад
I agree 100%. I don't have to do anything in my lawn mowers for example, because they run year round. I mainly made this video for people who store equipment for years and then wonder why It won't start.
@fabfabber
@fabfabber 3 года назад
@@Lordofjunk You probably know as I do that one of the worst things you can do to an engine is to not run it, especially for years at a time.
@Lordofjunk
@Lordofjunk 3 года назад
Absolutely. It seems that generators, pressure washers, and tillers are the equipment that gets done that way the most.
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649
I think the point is to accomplish the same thing without buying into product marketing hype and spending more money than is really necessary.
@garryharris9098
@garryharris9098 Год назад
@@Lordofjunk I go where I can get ethanol free gas to use in all my equipment that gets neglected for 6 months or more. But I am a firm believer in ATF in engines since I was in 2 years of automechanics in high-school Mt teacher in the 1970s taught us that an occasional jug in your gas tank does wonders. I have ran a gallon of diesel in a tank of gas to clean out old engines that had carbon buildup you don't see as much with unleaded gas
@JohnnyTalia
@JohnnyTalia 10 месяцев назад
For years, I have used StaBil in 100% ethanol-free fuel for all my equipment. As for my generator, I leave a small amount of fuel in it and start it up once a month, letting it run for a few minutes, Then I shut the fuel valve and let it run until it dies. I've been doing that for 6 years now. Last summer I needed the generator for the first time, and it started up on the second pull and ran perfectly for 60 hours until we got our power back.
@Lt_Tragg
@Lt_Tragg Год назад
This is a great tip about using the atf as a carb preservative. That said, I run nothing but eth free in my small engines. At the end of the mowing and snow blowing seasons, I drain the carbs and put stabil in the gas. No problems. Start on first pull at the beginning of season.
@rayRay-pw6gz
@rayRay-pw6gz Год назад
I just run the engine till it runs out of fuel and then empty my fuel can in my car . Winter gas for snowblower and summer gas for lawnmower. Simple . KIS . KEEP IT SIMPLE .
@masterofate4852
@masterofate4852 Год назад
I have actually had issues with eth free fuel and stabil. Stored a small tiller and gen for 1 yr and had to clean the carbs on both. Only thing I can guess was crap fuel or old stabil.
@wolfmantroy6601
@wolfmantroy6601 Год назад
I use stabil and let the carb run dry too.
@rlan3677
@rlan3677 Год назад
The service manual on 1960s cars said to basically do the same thing, except pour some down the carb while running to leave the cylinder walls oiled.
@bradfarrahgerwing154
@bradfarrahgerwing154 Год назад
15 years on my Yamaha 4 stroke......only use 94 octane premium and ŕun dry before storage and some seafoam in the tank......never been serviced and starts on 2 pulls
@stephenhair5501
@stephenhair5501 Год назад
One other step that I do when running the gas out.......When the engine starts surging and just before it quits, I flip the choke on and get the rest of the remaining gas out of the carb. You'll be surprised how much it can run before finally dying out. I also run Non Ethanol gas in all of my small equipment. I'll try this ATF trick for sure. Thanks for sharing this great tip. Stay well and God Bless.
@royoglesby4801
@royoglesby4801 Год назад
This works great .. but I like to use 2-cycle oil in the same way .. usually cheaper and burns off easily .. and I always mix a little bit in the gas for every small engine I have .. keeps all seals and rings lubricated.
@UnitedWeStand2020
@UnitedWeStand2020 Год назад
As old as I am, I've never heard this before. But it sure makes sense to me. Thanks for sharing this info! 👍👍 Sta-bil works good, but it's not the cure all for long term small engine storage. Today's gas is made so cheap because profits and corporate greed in America are top priority over quality of anything. Gas doesn't last long at all like it used to years ago. Another tip, DON'T USE GAS WITH ETHANOL IN IT FOR ANY SMALL ENGINE, even if you run it regularly, UNLESS IT SAYS YOU CAN.
@grgr8888
@grgr8888 Год назад
Thanks for the tip. I’m always looking for better ways to store Small engine equipment. Good vid.
@lymedog3176
@lymedog3176 9 месяцев назад
Marvel’s mystery oil does the same thing… it’s kerosene based and is great for fuel lines but horrible for an oil additive. I’ve been using this on my small motors for close to 25 years and 95% of my oldest motors start without any issues with carburetors. I don’t use stabil but I use starbrite enzyme as the second additive. This combo has served me well. The other mistake that most make is to use low test gas… I only use high test . My dad used low test and had many issues even with stabil. Once he started using my combo and high test gas.. he never had an issue. Also change your fuel filters every two to three years….that also helps.
@mrnotnomis
@mrnotnomis Год назад
Not in a hurricane zone, but I AM in Texas - a place not known to be able to keep the lights on when Jack Frost brings Northern Canada down here for a visit. So my gen does a LOT of sitting around. I run it for about an hour every 3 months, but this will be a good way to save me that time and have it ready when I need it. You earned a subscriber.
@kevinhitt719
@kevinhitt719 Год назад
I do the same thing with starting it every 3 months but I also run non ethanol gas with Star Tron and lucas in it
@bertgrau3934
@bertgrau3934 Год назад
@@kevinhitt719 I have had very good luck with Lucas products, project farm did a test with Lucas fuel stable, and it failed. I was a little surprised, but the rest of their products are very good.
@kevinhitt719
@kevinhitt719 Год назад
@@bertgrau3934 I saw the same vidio from him and like you I was surprised and even though I don't think it necessary with non ethanol gas I still think it a good product
@bertgrau3934
@bertgrau3934 Год назад
@@kevinhitt719 Agreed
@michaeldubya
@michaeldubya Год назад
I’m outside of Houston, been through a few storms myself. First I’ve heard of this trick. I’ve become the small engine guy at my church. Will pass this on, I’ll end up doing it anyway. In exchange for dinner at a dive.
@amerlin388
@amerlin388 Год назад
Great tip. I'll be checking out the rest of the channel. Maybe not the best example of knife safety, LOL. Cut that tip before screwing onto container... I keep a couple recycled syringes, with and without needle, in the garage for applying MMO to small bearings or measuring out 2-cycle oil; will probably use that or tiny funnel for the ATF.
@alouiciousjackson5812
@alouiciousjackson5812 Год назад
A little ATF in the cylinder can supposedly free up some stuck rings also
@lanceopperude5868
@lanceopperude5868 Год назад
awesome video. never thought about storing small engines with ATF. That's a damn good tip.
@rd8370
@rd8370 Год назад
I was talking to my neighbor yesterday about his generator and now I’m getting this.
@guruoo
@guruoo Год назад
Makes sense, can't damage anything, so I'll give it a try. ATF can also be used as a safe, effective engine flush as well. For this, I add half quart of ATF to my cars' oil about 100 miles or so before a planned oil change. It's one of the many tricks I learned from my 10 years working counter at Autozone.
@angryman3317
@angryman3317 Год назад
Another old school trick to flush an engine, is to warm up the motor drop the oil and refill it with diesel let it idle for 5 minutes, dump and fill it with oil. Over the past 20 years I've done it with all sorts of Small Motors, motorbikes, lawn mowers ect to no ill effects. This is the first time hearing about ATF though.
@kencleg7721
@kencleg7721 Год назад
Marvel mystery oils does the same cheeper
@ItchyKneeSon
@ItchyKneeSon Год назад
Apparently, Seafoam in the oil works great to clean out the gunk, too. Lookup Project Farm's video using it to clean out his old Ford truck. It was one of his first videos before his channel blew up.
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 9 месяцев назад
I put 10% ATF in with the new oil and run it till next change. Truck's got 244K on it and a finger swipe of the tailpipe comes out clean.😊
@robertheinkel6225
@robertheinkel6225 Год назад
On my generator, turned off the fuel, ran the engine till it died. Drained the tank, and changed the oil. When Ian arrived, I just added fuel to the tank, and it started on the first pull. This generator I bought 15 years ago. I only use ethanol free fuel with Stabil fuel additive.
@lewis9888
@lewis9888 Год назад
I started using NON-ETHANOL GAS only in my small engines along with Stabil. Setting over the winter has not been a problem for me. A couple pulls on the cord and it's running next spring. I read somewhere that gas with Ethanol eats the aluminum and pot metal that small engine carberators are made out of. Be safe my friends.
@RobertGoshko
@RobertGoshko Год назад
Ethanol also attracts water, great if you are using the fuel constantly, bad for storing.
@plakor6133
@plakor6133 Год назад
I was advised by someone who supposedly knew that Stabil Marine works better than regular Stabil when used with ethanol gasoline. Don't know the truth of this, but that's what I use.
@benjurqunov
@benjurqunov Год назад
Non ethanol is great if you can get it. Or don’t mind paying 50% higher price. For me, non-ethanol is 60 miles away at the Marina or Small Airport.
@plakor6133
@plakor6133 Год назад
@@benjurqunov Me too. Non-ethanol is not available in my state. I stock up when I can. In the meantime, I use high octane (has ethanol), treat with the stabil marine, try to use it up fast, praying to the small engine gods for mercy.
@blogengeezer4507
@blogengeezer4507 Год назад
@@benjurqunov .Several vids of removing ethanol from fuel.. It Works. ;)
@JamesJohnson-eg6yd
@JamesJohnson-eg6yd Год назад
Good video Lord, also, you can add atf and or engine oil to the gasoline. I routinely add any engine oil (10W-40, 20 50 0W30 , 5W30 30W, it doesn't matter. any engine oil will work) i have to my gasoline in my 4 stroke engines.. roto tiller, lawn mower, dirt bike street bike ( assuming no cat converter ) pressure washer, generator string trimmer etc. Think of how you do this to a 2 stroke engine, but in the case of a 4 stroke, it's not necessary, but still beneficial. It lubes the piston, cylinder, and carb. I'm a dirt biker and that's how I stumbled onto this knowledge. After years of tinkering and using small gasoline engines, i realized I had better luck w/ my 2 strokes in rarely having carb issues after the machine sat unused for a time n figured out it simply because of the oil added to the fuel. I also feel the oil helps stabilize the fuel over time, whether or not the fuel is in the carb or the fuel tank. no need to measure it out, just throw a couple ounces in your fuel before you fill with gasoline. Think of the manufacturer ratios you'd put in a 2 stroke.. 20:1 32:1 50:1 100:1 etc. but again the ratio isn't critical as it is w/ a 2 stroke. You can measure it if you'd like, but it isn't necessary for the idea I'm trying to get across here. Also FYI, it's a good idea to avoid ethanol fuel if possible. E-0, clear fuel or 'Ethanol Free' as it's called is better for your engines than the ethanol garbage which is widely sold nowadays. Ethanol based fuel is hydroscopic and attracts water. Bad idea for carbs and fuel systems. If your cheap or on a tight budget, it's acceptable to run ethanol garbage, but absolutely DON"T STORE ETHANOL BASED FUEL IN YOUR MACHINE IN THE OFF SEASON! This is especially true for folks in areas of the U.S. where Ethanol is higher than 10% . Upper Midwest for example. Adding said engine oil or ATF to your gasoline will likely cause some smoking while operating, depending on how much oil you add, but if that bothers you, then cut back on how much oil you add or simply don't add any, but it works for me and I get extended life out of my small gas engines and I no longer have carb issues when I'm starting to run my machines in the beginning of the season.
@navret1707
@navret1707 Год назад
I just start my generator once a month and run it for a couple of minutes. Never have had a bit of trouble. This not only runs good gas through the fuel system and gets oil up into the workings.
@mikerossman9863
@mikerossman9863 Год назад
Do you plug a fan or some thing that uses some electric in to it? I heard that is something to do as well.
@JimmyJamesJ
@JimmyJamesJ 10 месяцев назад
This man speaks the truth. It works and you should do it. You don't want to be replacing all the carb seals in your chainsaw every year.
@thisdayage7997
@thisdayage7997 9 месяцев назад
the marine stabil stabilizer protects for 2 years …. so is sea foam !but atf lasting 4-6 years is flat out amazing! I used to be a lube, technician straight out of high school, and we serviced a fleet of tow trucks with international engines, and the owner would come over and help us fill the fuel filters up with the clear power steering fluid. Then we would fire the engine up and hold the gas pedal down about halfway until it cleared it out. If we let our foot off the gas before cleared it out, it would die and although it never happened to me or on my watch, the owner would have to flush the fuel System out with diesel fuel to get it to fire up ! also i serviced an old 300z that was in immaculate condition and the owner would stand around an watch me fill motor oil up 90% of the way then top off with a 1/4 qt of atf …. that was 25 years ago and if id guess that 300z is still on the road somewhere
@djsmith4789
@djsmith4789 10 месяцев назад
This is similar to Fogging oil used in marine engines! Have had outboard engine(s) stored upwards of 15 years and they still run fine after a good fogging. I have also used ATF in small Radio Controlled nitro engines for storage as well and like you said, they run fine afterwards!
@redriverrebel
@redriverrebel 9 месяцев назад
Fogging oil works great to lube/protect the cylinder(s) and combustion portion of the engine; this ATF trick protects the fuel system and carburetor. Two distinct and separate systems.
@djsmith4789
@djsmith4789 9 месяцев назад
@redriverrebel True! But fogging oil also works to protect the carbs, ports, injectors, valves, and even linkages. I spray it on the outside of the throttle bodies as well, especially in a marine environment, as it is less messy and requires little to no cleaning the following season. Imo fogging oil is superior to ATF in these applications for short-term storage, eg, up to 1 year. Whereas ATF is my choice for protection beyond a year! If I recall, there is 1 drawback to using ATF. ATF will leave a gummy residue that is difficult to remove if left in or on an engine (read carburetor, combustion system) for too long, eg, my 4 stroke RC motor for 4 years. In my experience, this occurred when the motor was stored in a room temperature basement, which did tend to be dusty with some airborne dryer lint, which in turn probably exasperated the process?!? My experience in this matter goes back 50 years (damn!😕) but I've probably been using the same bottle of ATF for 25 of those years, so the product may have improved? For what it's worth🙂
@kevinmire3745
@kevinmire3745 Год назад
I do the same thing with lawnmowers and weed eaters to. The atf does more than just keep gas from gumming up the carb. But it also keeps the Internal pump diaphragm in some carbs from hardening as well
@malcolmmarzo2461
@malcolmmarzo2461 Год назад
Aviation fuel, 100LL, is something I've used for years with small engines. The qualities that make it good for demanding aviation applications (purity, volatility, and stability) make it great for old air-cooled engines that sit around.
@gordonjones1988
@gordonjones1988 Год назад
Malcom...right on. I am a pilot, and I put 100LL in all my motors (boat, trimmers, generator, &lawn mower) for winter storage, gas stays fresh, and that is the only winterizing I had to do. Everything starts again in the spring like new!
@michaelheurkens4538
@michaelheurkens4538 10 месяцев назад
@@gordonjones1988 I'd bet there is no unnecessary ethanol in "av-gas".
@captainotto
@captainotto 10 месяцев назад
If my TDI dies, I get a tow and a bunch of hassle. If my O360 dies on takeoff, approach, missed approach, over mountains, desert, or water, I may die with it. So we put the lead in the avgas and save the booz for the ground.
@alanfenwick9560
@alanfenwick9560 10 месяцев назад
it has lead in it to get the octane level - leaded gas will carbon up an engine and needs valve job and de-carboned often
@misterbalsa9676
@misterbalsa9676 9 месяцев назад
The key is to only use AVGas at the end of a season. E10 is fine when fresh in engines that get regular use. I'm a pilot too, but only use 100LL for off-season storage. I use stabilized pump gas the rest of the year to avoid buildup and BREATHING leaded fuel exhaust.
@ShaneZettelmier
@ShaneZettelmier 9 месяцев назад
This used to be a lot more common. They called it after run oil, are used to use this in two strokes. I’ve never gone as far as to drain the gas tank. I usually just throw some Stabell in it and once a year or so go out and get it started and let it burn through some fuel And then refill it, but I’m gonna let something sit for a while. I always cut the gas off and let it run the carbs dry, but if I’m going to store, it are usually squirt a bunch of ATF in their end. Turn it over a few times. Another thing you can do is run it on carb cleaner like a starting fluid and that helps burn a lot of the fuel still in the car bout guess everything shot of cleaner and that evaporates much better than fuel. But I really don’t want other people to do this because it’s a great way to buy power equipment and motorcycles when people don’t do the maintenance and then can’t get them started they so much cheaper.😅😂
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