@@uncleb7821It’s taught in history classes as a prime example of authoritarianism in America. There’s a lot of dirty laundry that gets pushed in the closet in this country but this isnt one of them.
Two of my friends are kindergarten teachers, kids don’t know how to write anymore because they had to learn online because of Covid restrictions/parents just put a phone, tablet, or computer in front of them and then auto correct fix’s their mistakes. Meaning they are literally unable to learn from mistakes aka how you learn. It’s insane, they’ve sent me pictures of written in class work answers and I am seriously worried, it’s things like “tomorrow” - ‘tumoro’ sometimes the words were even spelled for them they just had to copy it and they couldn’t. Our government needs to be changed, words have failed us and now the generation to come won’t even know what words to use in their own defense should they need to. (they teach the older kids who should know how to do basic things by now)
“Yeah you can protest, but not in a way we don’t like” Nope. You don’t decide the terms of rebellion, outrage and protests. It’s civil disobedience ultimately, you know, kinda like what Snowden did.
Yeah you do, it's called law, civilization and constitutional rights. Can't go trampling on everyone's rights like that. Protesting does not equal forcibly impeding access to a privatly owned space.
@@rodrigoa4506 law and what’s right aren’t always the same. When law goes against ethics, eventually violence and war are permitted. These are warnings to the ruling class by the civilians. That’s why real Americans want to be armed. If you don’t believe it go read your history, but remember that to end slavery, many white and black people had to die in civil war. Civil war is the end result of ignored protests. Why do I need to explain this to you?
@@bader3677 So you wouldn't have a problem with the student's blockading roads or bridges (public property)? Which by the way, they have done. Of course Rogan, as usual is oblivious to his own contradictory positions. What's new, eh?
Telling how this country sends kids who don't know any better to die in wars over oil and corporate power and spin it into patriotism knowing damn well had these kids had other opportunities they wouldn't join the military.
@@qiangbi5683 The same students who were homeschooled by robots and non-involved parents for 2 years? They are smarter than decades old scholars and historians. Okay dude. abre tus ojos!! 🙈🙉🙊
@@AnotherMoneyShow I wouldn't necessarily say every case is because of parents but it definitely starts at home. Do college students even get an education or are they just taught radical biased political agendas?
@@Bl913 They sure don't party and get laid like we used to. But they are taught a very anti-American rhetoric that is stemming from the massive influx of foreign donors to US Universities.
their free speech is having far too much of an impact on everyone else's. it's one thing to shout your opinions at the top of your lungs at anyone that'll listen it's a completely different thing for governments and mega corporations to step in and create laws and rules for anyone that doesn't agree with what they're saying.
To protest =/= to block entrance to a private place where clients (students) have invested tens of thousands of dollars and are effectively having their lives and professional careers delayed. You can protest whatever your want, whenever you want. But you can't trample on other people's rights. Is that too crazy now? Too hard to understand these days?
@@rodrigoa4506 Privileged much? If you pay tens of ks to go to school I’m sure you wouldn’t give up and cry if the library was closed… go to another building or study in your room with your friends bozo
he didnt imply it was the student’s fault though, he just said its also wrong to allow students to camp indefinitely, which it is. look at how antifa’s doing in the pnw and how they’re co-opting the homeless into their movement
Glad you caught that. Totally contradicted himself. He never said anything negative about Occupy Wall Street when the students here did the same thing like trespassing and encampments and creating civil disobedience. But looks like Joe is regurgitating right wing and CNN talking points.
@TG-ob5fn right, and I fit into the young category and I don't see myself as a fully developed adult. I still depend on my parents for most of my daily activities so idk why people think that at 18 you're a full grown person.
Yup when you’re 18 you’re an adult. If you can vote and enlist, we should stop pretending you’re a child. Either raise the age or take the kids gloves off
Well, they’re attacking Jewish Americans, calling death tomAmerica, and replacing the US flag with Palestines flag. They’re not in the right or just camping on a lawn.
I was talking to my mother who was a nursing student at the time of the college vietnam protests and her recollection was not that these were peaceful protests and that they were just as bad as the current protests. She followed up with those protests made much more sense as it was college kids protests against themselves being drafted into a war which they didnt believe in. However the lesson from history that always seems to be missed these days is "when you protest, your goal is to stay reasonable and force your opposition to be unreasonable to deal with you" once you vandalizing buildings and threatening others you lose your ability to win the protest, until you are willing to have lives sacrificed on your side to make your opposition seem worse than what you are doing.
Just looks like the media would rather talk about the protest instead of what they protesting against, how they protest doesn't change the US is enabling a genocide and these protest are far more mild than the BLM protest
Students are expressing same thing "You can't just take over the places or come and occupy someone else's property." Or is it only applicable to U$ property?
@dogperson432 So, according to your logic, I should claim all the properties in the earth since Adam was first man and I descend from him? Send all your bank details please. Jews lived in Jerusalem alongside Muslims before zionist arrived. Also, aren't the sons of Jacob(Isreal)12 tribes settled in Egypt. They were persecuted by the romans and later by the west throughout the centuries. Crusade, Spanish inqustion etc
@dogperson432 Adam was the first man, and I descended from him. Therefore, I claim your property and don't forget to send me the bank details. Sons of prophet Jacob(!sreal) settled in Egypt.
This is an American war. Remember the 2 navy seals that died? Or the American taxpayer money that is going to Israel to fund this…it’s an American war just like Russia/Ukraine is an American war. 🤡
i mean they arent speaking out against military complex. theyre speaking out against OUR military allies in favor of islamic extremists military complex. basically doing the work of iran for them.
@@nullakjg767how aren't they? So giving billions to Israel for military aid has nothing to do with the M.I.C ? This aid didn't just start this is every single year
@@nullakjg767also how is Gaza a military complex ? You have no idea what you are talking about you probably watch ben Shapiro every day and think Daddy trump going to save the word Trust the plan 😂😂😂
I’m a student of History, your comparing the Vietnam protests, riots to the pampered LGBTQ Columbia protests? these students demanded delivery service from Chipotle after 3 hours 😂
i think there is more to it. you need to dig deep in order to have an opinion. you cant just say they shot 4 ppl and thats is. pportraying them as the bad guys. who were they, what were they doing to get shot, how it actually happened minutre by minute, etc...
I can’t stand these campus protests! Go overseas and fight. I pay a lot for my kids education! They got screwed in the pandemic, no graduation now canceling again! Most of them don’t even know what they’re holding the sign for
Do you know why they’re holding the signs? The majority of these colleges use students tuition money to fund the conflict in the Middle East. My college specifically and most others have undisclosed stock in israeli defense companies. I don’t want my tuition dollars going towards genocide, I pay for an education and I should get that. Protesting is the only way to get them to stop. They won’t sit down for negotiations. If u care about where your money goes and your child’s education then you should support this cause. Your money is being wasted on death, not education.
@@velocirshtr3756it is freedom but universities are not public property. The administration can deem these protests against said school’s policies. It’s not the fact that the school wants to silence them, it’s more of “don’t do it because it will give us a bad look and we don’t wanna be forced into a side”
@@superoshi9695 Have you never heard of public universities? Like James Madison, University of Cali - Berkley, University of Florida, University of Michigan..... There are almost 2,000 public universities in the U.S.
@@superoshi9695 UCLA is not a private school fyi, meaning the taxpayers pay for the UC system to operate (this includes Berkeley). And yes, I understand every school’s modus operandi when it comes to public relations, and how the optics may deter donors from continuing their endowment.
Who knows...But I was told my grandfather was the first person shot during these riots, he was an over the road truck driver at the time coming home to East Palestine. He later became a local pastor and this story never changed
So you do realize if American education system did 4 less years of gaslighting the age of people realizing the truth would be 4 years earlier? They might aswell be kids their entire lives have been in school. You’re not very bright though.
You're wrong. Squatters' rights are on the books pretty much everywhere in this country. Also, who the fuck calls the national guard or riot police to evict someone?
As a palestinian, and a protester, i agreed with Joe for a second there, then I thought about the other alternative options we could take to get the message across to a lot of the ignorant people across the world, and honestly we’re out of options. If the big institutions dont have any agency, if all EU/US policy is against it, if people keep getting caught up in the narrative and forget that 35,000+ have died so far, one of the few options I see is becoming a big inconvenience for the system to the point where they just cannot avoid addressing it, and thankfully we are starting to see results. The narrative has shifted, and thankfully it’s to the truthful side this time. I know you’re a skeptic Joe, and many of you reading this. If i sound unreasonable to you, fair. If I don’t, then don’t believe all the bullshit you see in Western media, or any media. Actively search for the side you’re not seeing, it’s likely you will learn something you didn’t know. I apply that to myself, i’ve learnt more from Israeli people I’ve met, some of whom I get along with, despite having polar opposite political ideas. At least they doesnt believe my people dont deserve to live a decent life in our own land as well just because a book said so, and a book most of the world doesnt follow.
What’s with the outrage? If the cops wouldn’t have been called in the protests wouldn’t have escalated. It’s crazy how people are throwing a fit about students putting up tents where they’re not suppose to and cover it a million more times than they do the innocent women and children dying in Gaza. 20 years from now we’ll be looking at how courages these students were just like we see the Vietnam protestors today.
Actovists are trained to provoke aggression from their targets. They very slyly do it wothin the rules. The goal is to make the opponent overreact so they can run a demonisation campaign against them.
As much as it was a tragedy, there is a clear difference between what happened in Kent state and whats happening now tho. You even acknowledge it at the end where it was a peaceful protests vs what’s basically a trespass situation. I’m not calling for national guards to go to every campus but I agree that these places should be removed (even with force if necessary) because this is not first speech Zone once a physical occupation happens and a good portion of your student body has their safety threaten by their activism.
The amount of guests in JRE Podcast who are trying to create a propaganda that Palestinians are dying because of Palestinians is just mind-boggling. They nitpick on a few things instead of focusing on the bombs still falling on top of innocent Palestinians.
That was sad that happened at Kent in 1970. Then when the vets came home from the war they was treated like criminals that was even sadder . Vietnam was the first war that was reality news coverage. That was not good for the basic solider that had to follow order's. I do believe that we shouldn't of been in Vietnam. But know matter what no American should ever disrespect a vet...😢
@The_universal_cynic because the tuition that the students are paying to the university is going to Isreal, who is currently committing a genocide as we speak. Hence, the current protests.
So the colleges should give into the people who openly support terrorism and chant “Kill the Jews”? That’s a very pathetic Hitler mindset you have there
0:18 "they were shooting kids" is inaccurate. Men and and women can enlist in the police academy and the military while being the same age of those protestors. That's not "kids".
The one I’m most puzzled about is that the gay community has taken up the stance that they stand with Palestine. It just goes to show that people really just do whatever their group does to be virtuous.
It’s just basic human decency, you know they kill people for being gay here in the US also too right? Does that mean all the US is this way now? Regardless of how you feel about Palestinian society and culture the fact of the matter is killing kids is inexcusable. Can you say that?
It was on the opening scene of Watchmen the film 🎥 of kids being shot, peaceful protesters being shot. The opening scene of Watchmen says alot, even President being shot
Sure conflict (violence) is never the answer, but sometimes there aren't any answers and if talking doesn't get you anywhere, then all you have left is the aforementioned. Not an answer one might like, but it does solve the matter one way or another.
If what the students are standing up for is false then I can understand this line of thought, if not then why waste efforts and use violence when the college can instead acknowledge their message and maybe even adhere to it. Do you agree with their message?
@@mohammadissa3418 Nope I don't. But what a group of people is standing up for is not the issue as I was talking about conflicts in general and in reference to what Joe said about those who plea for it.
Clearly joe isn’t educated on the sit in protest during the civil rights movement, it happened then why can’t it happen now? Or does it not fit your agenda of what a protest should be?????