Lord Jamar issues a challenge to KRS-1, Fat Joe, Busta Rhymes and more 

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Bingo

Exactly 💯

Plz nobody accepting that challenge because Lord became a clown for RU-vid. He’s falling off the deep end.

@@Stackhundos What's your background 🤔

U a dummy!!@😂😂😂

Facts ‼️

​@@luthando13and a dummy YOU Ry

Exactly 💯

@@Jrum_KnoyZ FBA

But in a composed, intelligent and respectful way! So nobody can say that he’s creating a hostile situation. That’s how we dealt with most beefs back in the day and when it was all over( win or lose) we shook hands and moved on.

@@Maurio757 Lard Jamon is lying to you and you’re falling for it.

@@goudagalindo1790 if he is lying…. Everybody should come to the table and cook him…evidently he is prepared

@@Rue100 Okay cool. Can we now hear how has that financially benefited us collectively? Do we own Hip Hop?

@@Black____ IF YOUR TRYIN TO MAKE A POINT THAT BLACK AMERICANS DONT " OWNNNNNN " HIP HOP ...BLACK AMERICANS DONT OWNNNNNN SHITTTTT SO WHATS YOUR POINT????

@@Rue100 No they didn't...

@@kayminpierrelarochelle8385 YES WE DID.

@@Black____ WE BLACK AMERICANS DONT OWNNNNNN SHITTTTT SO WHATS YOUR POINT SIR????

Krs is my fav emcee I agree with lord Jamar as well.

LOL......fat joe and busta rhymes probably sweating like usain bolt after running 500 yards

@@lflash204 fat Joe is not da 1 for this convo unless u just looking for views n likes

I would switch fat Joe for like a Tony Touch

@@Urielspeace7378 dont matter if they get tony touch,jesus christ or tito puentes,they still gonna lose

@@lflash204 Bro the argument is already been debunked as for myself I agreed Im just not sold on Black Americans just poof HipHop Done n had no influence whatsoever? Nah son just tip ya Hat to others take ur Credit n Now Build something bigger than HipHop.

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BIGFACTS 🤣

Us...or you!!

@@614GTRjr They know !!! They won't accept

@THISISCHEVIII There is a link to all music, from gospel to soul, Rnb, Rock, to hip hop FBA created it all

@@larkvanderpooli7794 THATS GREAT, NOW WHO WERE THEY SIGNED TO WHICH WHITE MAN MADE SURE TO PAY THEM

Facts and they know we know that they’re lying

That was an ignorant statement... All races invented hip hop... Black people, white people, latino people, etc. ... I was around and old enough to know better at the start of it all... if you need examples I will definitely provide those for you so that you won't continue to talk such nonsense...

@@kayminpierrelarochelle8385 provide examples. You should’ve led with them. I smell bs

@@timothytaylor9835 Black: Grand Master Caz... Latino: The Latin Rascals... White: Rick Ruben... There you go children... Need more??? Go ahead and Google... I'll wait...

@@timothytaylor9835 it would be a good discussion. Everyone is knowledgeable, each has their perspective. I can even see a series

Now, THIS is a nuanced take. Props for this! 🫡 The element of the debate that I don't like is that heads are missing that people of Afrikan descent created hip-hop; period, whether they were from the continental US, Jamaica, PR, or wherever else. I think it's clear that our African-American family laid the foundation for the Culture and the sound, but they too were influenced by the diaspora from the beginning. You can't talk about the Amerikkkan south without talking about places like Haiti and the Bahamas (iykyk). I heard Fat Joe say once, "all this $%#+ is Afrikan." He is correct. I hope that point makes it to fore as opposed to the tribal rhetoric. That said though, big up the American Afrikans for this mighty rendition of our Ancestors' gifts! Big ups to you for giving a balanced take that assigns credit, but makes what was plain known ✊🏿

Real talk!

I’m 46 also and honestly don’t think that’s old enough to really comprehend Hip Hops origins from an “I was there perspective”, I was only 10yrs old in 1988 and definitely couldn’t comprehend the dynamics.

@@lirrflaco I did not say i was there at its inception..I said I know who created hiphop..and young puerto ricans were there..and naturally were PART of it due to the fact that we were completely present. You can imagine how many of the older Puerto ricans and black folks that I knew and even hung out with, friends,family etc. ..when I was 10 that were there at the inception. Which wasnt THAT long ago from 1988...and I listened and loved all the stories. Also, Notice I said YOUNG puerto ricans..because i witnessed,as was mentioned before by others,that the older,freshly here from the island, Puerto ricans (mainly parents) were not trusting of the African American community.

YOU know.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾✊🏾

YES THS FCK HE IS.... MY NGA!

Even if cats apologized, you would still drag it on. Keep it real with yourself. You need an adversary to feel alive.

Busta Rhymes was a Five Percenter. He's a Sunni Muslim these days.

@@BlackMusicGenre I thought Jamar was A Rasta???

@@pistolpat-16 Nope.

@@pistolpat-16 He used to be the *"*black dred that don't sell drugs although he dwell with the thugs*"* -- Return of the Dread Lock. Maybe the dreads was an "FBA thing" all along I hear so much about in these comments.

@@dareal05 At the end of the day Busta wasn't Kingston Rudeboi. He was Busta Rhymes. He wasn't reppin Jamaican culture like that to make him stand out .

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@tonybone132 Herc didn't start hip hop as we've been told, It already existed when he got to the Bronx

​@@larkvanderpooli7794Where's the footage? We need legitimate proof of that

@@dassolosyndikat5113 Because Herc said it himself

@@larkvanderpooli7794 Anyone can say anything just because it's Kool Herc it doesn't mean it's the truth he claims hip hop started in 1973 but we have no proof of that we have not one single footage of hip hop from before 1978 even Crazy Legs said that hip hop more likely started in the late 70's

Are you from NYC or the Bronx?

@@skineyemin4276 I moved to NJ when I was young.

It's not xenophobia because I'm sure he ain't scared of Jamaicans or Puerto Ricans, but I think the discussion is silly because what's the point? It's not like if we all agree that Hip Hop was created SOLELY by black Americans that our problems will magically disappear. I'm more concerned about the prospect of WW3 than who created Hip Hop. Nobody is even questioning who created Hip Hop, some people just wanna acknowledge that people of other groups were supportive of it at the beginning.

​@@dugnice Then why are u here?

The true fact is that this is non-issue as far as West Indians and Puerto Ricans go. You see Puerto Ricans or West Indians making a scene about this? These cats stopped worrying and talking about this over a year ago. Its just that masterminds calling themsellves 'FBA' like Tariq Nasheed found out that they can further increase clout as well as make big money by dragging this out, so they keep putting the battery in the back of the FBA crowd. Ricans are only mad at this point because they keep getting harassed by random cats calling themselves "FBA" over this hip hop thing, which ends up now with some of them saying some out of pocket isht in retaliation.. which then opens a new can of worms. Jamaicans ignore this whole topic altogether as it doesnt matter much to them who created hip hop and it never did. With that said, the one Rican guy that said PRs 'created hip hop 50/50 with BA', was wrong and Busta Rhymes was all the way wrong for saying Black Americans "didnt have a culture". Both of those guys shouldve humbled themselves afterwards. Instead, they allowed masterminds to stir up the hornets nest. Any divisions caused between groups was the whole intent of the people that keep hyping this up, but when was the last time you saw a sheep rebel against a shepherd? Lastly, I just wanna make clear that this is some internet shit, very very few people with their feet on the actual ground in the world actually give a dam about any of this. PEACE.. mentalpistol channel coming soon

@@MentalPistol stupid tether they all have been lying they created hip hop and was leaving us out of it as black americans like in their homeland they don't have nothing remotely to wear hip hop is they created it why they wasn't doing it in their homeland bozo tether

😂😂Facts!😂😂😂

Me too. He’s actually in my top 5

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@@2paco yes but hip hop is a black american thing 100% remove all black American off of hip hop hop and keep all Puerto Ricans u have no hip hop lol hip hop is a black American thing not Jamaican or Puerto Rican only fools believe that none sense

We are already the council as a people nobody trumps us

@@zartan215 Trust and believe you will be disappointed.

hit em up and letem know whats goin down

@@zartan215 Agent

Man KRS exposed himself when he was defending bambooty on some foul shit

@@forevershampoo word

But with respect, that's Jersey. In the East Bronx is where the concept of Hip Hop with rap was developed, then it spread to Jersey, but it's from the Bronx. Also, Crazy Legs (who is PR) and the RSC were doing their thing not long after that. Crazy Legs and/or his crew were from my 'hood on Amsterdam Avenue between 100th and 101st Streets in Douglass Projects in Manhattan, 830 Amsterdam Avenue to be specific, 2 blocks south from where I grew up.

@skineyemin4276 See, I think where people are getting confuse. Your talking about race or ethnicity. However, we are talking about the culture of the people. Latin culture nor any other played a part in the growth of hip hop. This thing of our was solely bases or the creativity of black American culture. We not saying Latinos weren't there or didn't participate. But they were influenced by what came out of the black culture...thats it.

So says the F/anatical B/uckbroken A/coltyes that know nothing about the history or culture. The only "rap" that came from FBA was Tariq Nasheed's "Wash Yo Ass" Absolute failure!

He needs to be there because this stems from him.

😂😂😂hell yeah! That Nicca ain’t letting 💩 slide

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Pete DJ Joines was much older then Bam & Flash he is the one who showed Flash how to hook up equipment. Everyone in NYC Knew Pete DJ Jones had the best system. And passed his knowledge. All the early Dj's before Flash and Bam played Clubs and brought Sound Systems from Sam ASH. Kids where to young to go to clubs so we just took the speakers outside. They would borrow the older Djs Equipment. It had nothing to do with Jamacian Sound Clash Systems.

I don’t think that’s the argument though. We’ve always viewed hip hop as “black music”. The question is WHICH black. Black American, black West Indian, Afro-Latino etc. The argument being made is whether or not Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans had any part in the creation of hip hop.

That's an absolute lie. There wouldn't be no Hiphop in its purest form as we know it if it wasn't for Mr Magic(Puerto Rican) Fly Ty (Black American) and Marley Marl (Jamaican Descent) You clearly don't know the history thius aint no Hiphop head! Know the history before you speak.

@ogunrebukeracistsxenophobe9661 I didn't see one Puerto Rican or Jamaican standing up for Hip Hop when C Delores Tucker wanted Hip Hop off the radio and out of record stores. Chuck D was on the front line.

@@focuz4899 You obviously don't know the history and are merely regurgitating someone else's talking point. Wouldn't have been a Chuck D had Mr Magic, Fly Ty and Marley Marl not stood their ground in keeping Hip hop on the airwaves. And you talk about Delores Tucker. Share with the rest of the class on where she's from? While her gripe at hip-hop was misplaced, it was the sexually explicit hip-hop that put her on that mission and she assumed all hip-hop was the same. You don't know what you're talking about and don't know the history and can't be considered reliable to speak on it

@ogunrebukeracistsxenophobe9661 You ever heard of Coke LA Rock? Widely recognized as the first "brother" to rock a mic at a party.

@@focuz4899 Yeah Coke La Rock was arguably the first emcee, He was part of Kool Herc's crew! Tell the whole story! That's why I say that the FBAs are goofballs trying to move the goalpost of rapping on the mic to before the 70s! As the only person that they'll make obsolete is Coke La Rock who is a Black American. Hip-hop was a collective effort, Bottomline!

He was important enough to have Fly Ty on his show to dispel all this bullshit! Bet top dollar you don't even know who Fly Ty is. Only true Hip-hop heads who followed hip hop in its purest form would know. Something you clearly are not. 🤡🤡🤡🦝🦝🦝

​@ogunrebukeracistsxenophobe9661 Fly ty, SERIOUSLY🤣. He also had Cholly and batch on his show, and they both told him that Hip Hop comes from Black American culture😂😂😂

BIGFACTS 💯

@@melanatedwarrior3530 LOL emojis next to Fly Ty? You ain't no Hiphop head I suggest you do your research on exactly who Fly Ty. Mr Magic and Marley Marl are? What they were willing to give up to put Hip hop on the map and their contribution and knowledge of the game before commenting as you definitely aint no Hip-hop head and are merely regurgitating a F/anatical B/uckbroken A/colyte talking point. The overcompensation of goofy lol emojis, a white supremacist trolling tactic, wont change that fact. 🤡🤡🤡

Notorious BIG was half Jamaican

He has spoke about that thousands of times tho

*"*Watch out rassclot*"*

Relevance🤔

@@melanatedwarrior3530 the relevance is very obvious

​@melanatedwarrior3530 ..Much Relevance!!

One line? Out of all the songs I’ve written? You must be stretch Armstrong the way you reaching 🤦🏽‍♂️

What is Hip Hop? By all accounts it's rapping/MCing, DJing, breakdancing and graffiti art. Who are the black people that INVENTED those things and when did they invent them?

Because he’s a tether himself… He’s Caribbean, he doesn’t want this to happen

@melanatedwarrior3530 or they will just avoid arguing with fools. "A wise man told me never argue with fools cause from a distance you can't tell who is who".-jay z

@@MacKnowMafiosoVIII Lord Jamar is a tether himself. Kissing FBA a$$ doesn’t change that.

Jimmy Lee real name Jimmy Aponte a puerto rican kid founded the Rock Steady Crew in like 1977/78

@@MacKnowMafiosoVIII Tether babble 101😂😂😂😂

@@dassolosyndikat5113 77/78 is second generation Hip Hop. HILARIOUS🤭