Unfortunately, they're are just some problems no studio can fix. Eg. The final bosses (the terrible final boss for the first ending, lack of a real final boss on the second and reskinned boss on the third), enemy variety and lack of varied weapon movesets. A final boss can't be replaced because obviously it can't. Completely new enemies (not that reskin crap they did on Halloween) takes to much time and risks messing with the balance and level design they've got now. More weapon movesets on existing weapons could end up changing the moveset of a weapon someone has invested in and may not like the new moveset. Such core issues are unfixable.
@@Z0RUKPeople love demon's souls. And this game is miles above demon's souls when it comes to refinement of the systems that demon's souls introduced. I've always considered the Griffith chick to be the final boss of lords of the fallen. Same as how demon's souls had false king allant. Weapon movesets do take a bit of a cut when it comes to what we're used to with souls games tho for sure.
You know what? I might end up playing it again! Also I want to support studios like these. Listening to fans is paramount and something really rare in modern videogames industry. These are the developers that I want to see succeed.
Do it. I now have several playthroughs, and it has become what I initially hoped for. Still tough, sometimes still unfair, still shitty End Boss Adyr that I’ll never do again, but overall it’s really really good now. Worth playing and going for different builds.
@@Hauri1972 I must be in the minority, because I actually enjoyed the Final Boss. I was fine with Adyr not being a traditional battle because we already got that in the Sundeared Monarch that you fight right before him, and I'm a sucker for lore and story, and Adyr was certainly a story-centric final boss.
Unfortunately, they're are just some problems no studio can fix. Eg. The final bosses (the terrible final boss for the first ending, lack of a real final boss on the second and reskinned boss on the third), enemy variety and lack of varied weapon movesets. A final boss can't be replaced because obviously it can't. Completely new enemies (not that reskin crap they did on Halloween) takes to much time and risks messing with the balance and level design they've got now. More weapon movesets on existing weapons could end up changing the moveset of a weapon someone has invested in and may not like the new moveset. Such core issues are unfixable.
"Heresy is but a contrivance. All things can be conjoined" - Turtle Pope Truest words ever spoken by a talking dog on the nature of things in the universe
Playing since release, finished 5 times including ironman mod - I enjoy it a lot. Thanks to Ziostorm for giving devs and game some love, surely they deserved it. Waiting for the next game in the franchise 😊
Thank you for talking about this game bro. I commented on one of your recent vids hoping you'd speak on the updates. This game deserves a lot of love now and I love it. I have hundreds of hours on my steam deck playing Lords
What I really like is the ability to start a new game +0, which is restarting the base game with all your loot and levels without going to new game +... so you can do a second playthrough to get duplicate items, find things you missed, or try a different ending.
@@RegalRoyalWasTakenAgree, for me Ng+ should have only new mobs and boss mechanics with some damage and health added, but if everything gets a damn damage sponge then the game lacks its purpose
Honestly LOTF is very underrated and overhated, I'm glad the game got much better and I'll definitely try again. Although i hope to see more enemy variety if possible next updates.
@@blazenfate no it very much is, alot of hate for this game is just really undeserved, I understand the critique but to call this game "dogshit" or say that it didn't improve compared to the past one is just straight up wrong. the game has alot of good things going for it and it's unique mechanics and aspects are pretty cool, it's not like a phenomenal game but it's pretty solid.
@@TheLastGame666 So that's the bar we're setting? "It improved since the last game"? The game is a solid 6. It had potential and some neat ideas but it failed to execute on most of them, and it's taken them 8 months to get this thing to a passable state. Two tries and two mediocre games, I won't be buying the third, that's all I can say.
People sleep on this game. One of the best multiplayer souls experiences I’ve ever seen. I had a great time and will definitely check it out again after shadow of the erdtree
I just played it about a month ago. It was definitely much better than at launch. The enemy density is definitely better. It’s still high at times but doesn’t feel so cheap as last time. The performance is still somewhat lacking in the later areas but better than it was
I’m def gonna jump back into LotF after the ER dlc, the new content looks like so much fun and it seems like they may have addressed my biggest issue with the game, which was the boss difficulty. Especially after having just beaten Sekiro for the first time, a new playthrough using a parry focused build sounds like a blast.
I heard a lot of negative about this game yet when I played about 4 months ago enjoyed it quite a bit. im glad to see that its only gotten better since I beat it. may need a replay.
I REALLY hope LotF gets the recognition it deserves. The devs did put the work in to resolve most of the issues it had on release and it's as close to dark souls 4 as we'll ever get.
Lol only 8 months to deliver the product people paid for 8 months prior. The game is a solid 6, and it's received exactly the recognition and reputation it deserves.
I’m glad they pulled through and kept updating the game. It’s rare to see developers listen to fans and take criticism. Hopefully they learn from this game and create a banger sequel
I totally agree i played through this game 3 times & yet to finish the umbral ending but i will definitely jump back in massive credit to the devs for continuing to support the fans & the game if only every other dev team / company was this way inclined
Months ago, I commented on another Ziostorm video about Lies of P and Lords of the Fallen. I LOVED Lies of P, and considered getting Lords of the Fallen, but the comments section pushed strongly against LOTF. Any new comments from the audience since then??
The devs fixed most of the major issues with the game. The enemy density is very manageable now, performance is good, and the game now has many features that only exist from mods in other souls games. Solid 7/10 from a 5/10 at launch I’d say.
I played it when it first released on PS5 and absolutely love it. Did two playthroughs back to back. But I recently built my first PC and want to replay it on PC. Hopefully Steam will have it on sale soon.
Definitely definitely worth playing. I had tons of fun playing this for a couple of weeks. Now it seems like it has a lot more replay value I’d still put it 2nd behind Lies of P as far as soul likes go..
I'm currently playing Nine Sols, a 2D metroidvania with Hollow Knight + Sekiro influences. Highly recommended! I might try LotF again after the Elden Ring DLC. At the time I didn't really like version 1.0
I freakin’ love this game.. I love the 2-reality concept and it’s just really fun to play. I played for about an hour after the new update (only 1 hour because my soul has been consumed once again by FO4 😅) and it was wayyyyyy more fluid and responsive than it was in the beginning. Graphics look even better too. After I finish this play through for Fallout and give Shadow Of The Erdtree a large percentage of my life for a time I’m going to get back into this game!
I finally had the chance to play it the past couple days and its been so much fun! Been a challenge, but an absolute pleasure (i am running pre-upgraded loot just bc i like being able to just try everything i get). The systems are awesome fun, and I've been enjoying everything I've tried. A bit hesitant to do multiplayer bc of what I've heard, but I'll probably just queue up some invasions sometime and see how it feels
I love lotf. Wither is such a cool concept. It scratched the dark dark fantasy itch that elden ring did not. SotE will probably scratch it. I didnt like how much butterfeet* was goin on when i played, but they could have fixed that too. I made 5 characters and got them all to end game or ng+. Very fun. *Butterfeet is when you swing and the soles of the feet start oozing butter to allow for sliding across surfaces.
This game was overshadowed by lies of P but im trying it out now as I write this, i literally took a break just to tell one of my friends this game is worth it. The devs were truly inspired the umbra mechanics are fun and challenging, I see this game as very polished. In Lies of P when you “edge walk” (walking animation during combat) the speed at which the puppet moves does not match the steps on the ground so its like he is moonwalking everywhere this is one of biggest pet peeves about lies of P this is such an eyesore. Lords of the Fallen does not make this mistake the character actually feels like he is in the ground walking and interacting with everything. Yeah its still complicated and bit confusing too many tutorials and weird names to remember but when you get the hang of it the game feels stylish and crisp. Which is what matters, the gameplay is good shame that this game was overshadowed a bit by Lies but I dare even say im liking lords more than lies right now.
Let’s go!!!!! I’m gonna jump back in today I’ve been hoping to hear this I’m happy for those guys they truly love the game they made and they took criticism from fans extremely well and worked hard to fix that’s stuff. We need more developers like those guys in the community!
It really needs to be stated that since this is a heavy-featured UE5 game, so 13th and 14th generation Intel CPUs require some tweaking. It's not CIs fault at all, nor any other developer...but people still complain about the "game crashing" even though it's related to their motherboard manufacturer rather than the games themselves. LotF is a great game btw...I'm a massive fan. It looks stunning, and the gameplay is (and mostly always has been) awesome.
Just got back into the game a few days ago and have been loving all the new changes! Yesterday I completed the crucibles of fire, faith, and blood. It was definitely exhilarating to get all that shrine currency! I never thought I’d see the day where I had enough pilfered coins to buy that entire armor set 😂😂
I really liked this game at launch. The only issue that I really had was enemy density at the end of the game. I’ll probably jump back in and do a play through before Shadow of the Erdtree
I really hope this game is a huge learning experience for CI and HexWorks. This game has a lot of love and uniqueness to it. The only real thing it’s missing is a definitive arena horde mode
I'm very interested to jump back in and see what they have done in terms of improving the boss weapons and weapon abilities. I was one of the fortunate individuals who had no technical issues at all when I played the game, and I absolutely loved it. However, I was very disappointed in the lack of moveset variety and special weapon abilities, especially with regard to the boss weapons. So I'm very interested to see what improvements they've made in that department.
Oh wow, i played on launch and loved it but didnt touch it again after my first playthrough. didnt even know there were updates. will have to give it another shot
On my 3rd playthrough. This team has been working endlessly and striving to make it the best it can be. I’d highly recommend folks try it out, if they haven’t.
I wasn't personally a fan of LOTF and dropped it after the second "great rune" boss. I still followed all the updates the game got, and it was so cool to see. I think I might try a sequel to LOTF if they make one. I just think Umbral needs to go away (literally discourages exploration with infinitely spawning enemies), and they need to get better at enemy placements and density on launch cause that at least got updated later
I was going to buy this but got lies of p instead because of the criticism you mentioned. Might be time to play this the next 12 days while waiting on SOTE.
My roommate got this on his Xbox One just the other day so I got to play around with it a bit! Honestly it seems like a fun game, the worst thing I experienced was some crazy frame rate drops but beyond that it's cool! I think the voice acting is a little ass though lol! I will definitely be getting this when I I get my PS5.
I absolutely adored this game. I love that you can play it souls, Bloodborne or sekiro style. Love the ranged weapon system. Love the dual-wield mechanics. Can't wait to see what they do next
Completely agree; the game is not perfect but still very fun. In particular I enjoyed the umbral lantern mechanics and swapping back & forth between worlds throughout the game, as well as the more straightforward stats for creating a build. There's definitely still some jank here and there, but massively improved over launch. Good on the devs for remaining dedicated to supporting their product.
I saw this on game pass and laughed because I knew off of the base reviews that it wouldn't be successful, I might play it now tbh. That is, after SotE
I honestly liked Lords of the Fallen, and lived throughout the entire period of the weekly updates. I liked it less than Lies of P, but still, it is pretty cool. But anyways, what about Enotria: The Last Song's demo? You said you would have tried it at launch but you didn't. I would say that now is the best time to do it, since the demo's last update has been released, fixing all bugs/glitches and adding/modifying things thanks to the huge amount of feedback that people have already given on the game's discord. So please, try Enotria. You will be amazed. There is still a lot to adjust and fix, yeah, but the devs have still a bit of time to fix em I can't wait for you to try it! Hopefully you will
Always remember, kids play these games and have the same voice we do. So the “hate train” can often be explained by teenagers in echo chambers or button slappers who can’t find meaning outside easy wins and shiny lootfests. It went from an 8/10 to a 10/10 with unique qualities other Soulslikes can only stare at drooling, but it’ll keep getting hate because some 9 year olds can’t figure out Multiplayer.
This game is so slept on. People just hate on it because it’s trendy to (a lot like dark souls 2). I give this game a solid 8/10. Honestly I think it’s a way better game than dragons dogma 2.
Honestly, I would give this try, but you know... Shadow of the Erdtree is on the horizon and I need to focus on getting my character ready for the DLC. Congrats to the devs on turning this game around, but my main focus is the Elden Ring DLC at the moment personally. Although, I might jump in on Lords of the Fallen afterwards though.
Honestly the thing that bothered me the most about l.o.t.f. was quest layout and to be frank poorly thought out encounters. Example for poor quest layout being that if you cleanse the first marker in the swamp you are locked into the radiant ending full stop, or if you don’t cleanse a beacon after a certain point you are locked into the lord ending and there’s nothing to tell you in game that this will happen or that it hard locks you on a path. As for the poorly thought out encounters, the worst one that comes to mind is the lamp reaper, if you get good enough or even if you over lv yourself and kill him in one of his many encounters outside of the end area you are locked out of like three quests and I do believe an ending purely because you are too good or over leveled.
Funny thing, i have it installed and steam updates it regularly. Bought it some time ago, knowing its pros and cons and what can i expect ( i kinda liked Mortal Shell from souls-like btw, so i am sure i would kinda like some parts of it at least ). Only question i have is, can i finish it in less than 20 days ? :D
I just finished dark souls remastered and wanted another souls like to play, I was about to buy this, but not for full price, I decided to get dark souls 2 instead, so far, I'm loving it
