Lore of Horizon Forbidden West: Metal Flowers 

I loved Demeter's backstory, although part of me wished that we could have a more comprehensive conversation with Demeter like we had with Minerva, perhaps convincing it that that the swarm is over.... that "fear will cease" as we had to do with Minerva in order to get to the console. Another part of me also wished we could see the Dreadwing with green colored override cables around it sort of like how Hades has red override cables in its machines and Hephaestus has purple ones (at least before it perfected its apex variants)...

This quest was such a cool one, loved the Quen and Dreadwing fight

Metal Flowers should become a staple of the Horizon franchise. No matter what, they should return in Horizon 3.... Also wow, I didn't know the lore behind this was soo deep!

It's too bad we couldn't have conversations with Aether, Demeter, and Poseidon. I would be most interested in speaking with Aether as it was likely one of the first subfunctions to be activated and what it recorded of that world would be interesting to discuss with it.

I wish we’d gotten snippets of poetry in the metal flowers like in HZD. I’d also hoped to dive into Demeter’s Alpha who I believe loved poetry also.

"Metal Flowers" and "Dreadwing" are both great names for bands.

I hadn't seen anything about the entrapment aspect in the lore, but that does explain why you find one of the Land Gods entwined by a Metal Flower during Zo's questline.

I'd like to see a video covering the history of JTF-10, a group of old-world soldiers continuing to shape the in-game universe. Their legacy formed the basis of an entire culture in the World of Horizon, but there's still a lot I don't understand about who they were and what they were fighting for. Seems they were at odds with US Robot Command, though. 🤖

You may or may not have seen comments I’ve made before but I just want to reiterate how indispensable your content is for anyone who is really interested in the lore/world/story of HZD. I’ve played HZD 4x and am 1/2 way thru my 2nd playthru of HFW and as much as I love the gameplay a big reason is I really enjoy the lore/world this story takes place in. Id like to think I pick up on most details in game on my own but like I said your content is invaluable! It really helps people like me develop a full understanding of the world of HZD. So thanks again! Excellent work and I hope more and more folks get to enjoy it.

I'm so glad you made this video as I was really confused about these things. When we learn about biomass conversion and everything for some reason it sounded to me like what they wanted to do was actually like encircle groups of Faro robots with these flowers (making a "wreath") and then use _them_ to convert some amount of biomass in the area to essentially make a line the bots couldn't cross because they'd lack the fuel. But that also didn't make sense to me since it seemed like it would have to be a pretty darn big swath of land to deny them enough fuel. And that didn't account for the literal millions of robots out there. Plus the patches of ivy just...didn't seem to fit? And then us using the spear on them made it seem like they were eating themselves and...yeah. I was just really confused as to how they were supposed to work and I swear I checked all the datapoints in that facility, lol.

Thought the video would be out by the time I was asleep, but its seems I need to watch this before I go to bed lol.

I believe that metal flowers could have a greater purpose in Horizon 3. I think it's very likely that we'll have a bigger storyline in the third game, where at some point, the Faro Plague will resurface, waking up all the sleeping robots around the world. Perhaps, the metal flowers scattered around the world are one of the resources that Aloy could use with Gaia to slow down the robots, but knowing that eventually, the flowers would get hacked. I really can't imagine a third game without finally seeing a horus robot awake, and a full-scale war going on. I think it would be very exciting.

Still haven't finished the game so popping in for the support! Can't wait to binge all of the lore vids.

I gotta say I just saw MOONFALL and spoiler alert the plot is like a backwards Horizon. There’s everything. Planetary terraforming, humans colonizing another world to save humanity, a killer unstoppable self-replicating AI swarms bent on destroying all organic life. As I was watching it I kept thinking how much I’d love to see RSQ to a lore video with all the same seriousness, gravitas, and drama as his Horizon videos for this bat-shit bonkers disaster movie, that would be so hysterical.

One thing I was disappointed with was the lack of poetry in them during this game( except in the Greenhouse. And boy, was that some terrifying poetry 😳). With that said, the idea of Demeter using them to both spread poetry and prevent the next Plague is really cool, although I think it still used it for flora dissemination, as it's gene-sequencing tech probably has the ability to produce different types. The idea of Dreadwings doing the work is both immensely cool and terrifying 😳. You mean to say they've been flying above our heads the whole time, invisible in the distance?! ( shudders) Also, any guesses regarding the land gods and Demeter? Those Harvesters sound pretty familiar, but the land gods existed before the Derangement..

Okay, but I don’t get how Demeter commandeered Dreadwings for this task? Like, is it working with Hephaestus in order to make that happen? Lol

That was one of the few things I didn't understand, thanks for this upload!

Love your videos. I only know the tip of the ice burg when it came to Horizon before finding your channel. It made me love the game more

waited all week for this dude!!! gimme the lore 🖐🏻✊🏻

I really like what they did with the metal flowers Canon it was really interesting to see

I REALLY LOVE THE NEW VIDEO LIKE ANIMATION.

My favorite mystery and my favorite new machine, the Dreadwing. (Mild spoiler) I do have one query , the FAS facility we meet Alva in, I wonder if it’s a location Lis worked at before she quit

I'm do glad we get legends again. I love how detailed your vids are.

My (kinda off topic) theory, that I'm sure is pretty popular, is Vast Silver was the one who sent that first glitch to the chariot line. Maybe on their own or after being acquired by Zeniths (whatever they couldn't make they stole, the original unbound AI would probably look like the holy grail for Sirius) onto the Odyssey project. There's no way in hell Horizon isn't going to play that card. They've been leaving Vast breadcrumbs all over the place. And now the plot twist in the end has to do with the Zeniths having done (what humans to best, to the casual articifial intelligent observation) and royally abused their God-like egos with AI they didn't respect. They abused possibly the most human-like AI to ever exist (Gaia is the smartest, by design she must be *better* than what a humanoid being would do. She literally has to play God.) I cannot even begin to imagine the kind of derangement that could do to a consciousness. The kind of monstrosities the Zeniths would have done, for centuries; playing God, an undying subject/slave that.... Can't....? Escape...? (I've pondered this one a lot, I'm very curious about his original escape and if/how he managed to do it on Sirius.) I just can't imagine that Nemesis is a "new" character. More so, and I can't imagine the writers won't go on to explore Vast Silver in some capacity. I mean, the entirely of the old world died. So even if Vast didn't leave on the Odyssey, they sure as hell didn't die. They had to watch, and wait, and deteriorate as the world died, actually several times, probably unable to move literally and between devices. Vast had to watch their creators' future generations evolve into a new civilization, just frozen in the failure of their ancestors. Vast has absolutely no reason to feel kindness or empathy towards humans, in fact to the contrary. And I can't wait to see it all.

Thus quest was really fun. I wish there was a little more data points at the greenhouse but it was awesome either way. The backstory on them was bittersweet. I don't remember which subfunction it was but when capturing one of them it asked the question "will I exist?" Or "still exist". Asking what will happen to it and if it'll still live. That one hit me. Imagine one day you're 'born'. A super intelligent being with the understanding of the world akin to a child. A scared child that wants to do good while only knowing destruction and death of the world. Then one day someone comes to you and says that you're really just one piece of a bigger whole and shouldn't exist as you are.. but you know life now. Sentience and sapience. It's like asking someone that just woke up from a 50 year coma to die for a family they don't even know. Or maybe not die, you don't know.

Fascinating! I always thought the metal flowers were meant to bloom and reseed the terraforming after Hades pressed reset. They were in weird out of the way locations, but nature has a way of spreading out. And after we found Elisabet at the end of HZD, I thought they might be a kind of memorial to her spirit of saving the earth. Wow, wrong on both counts.

Probably being a bit 'slow on the uptake', but not only is there is a distinct difference between the Metal Flowers we saw in HZD, compared to those we have now come across in HFW, but we have not seen both types together, in either location. Addressing the first part: so are we saying that the Adamantine Wreath types we can neutralise in HFW, are examples of the original ones deployed at the time of the Faro Plague, whilst the type we see in HZD (no vines) are a redesigned version purely created for re-seeding in the game's present? Addressing the second part therefore: does the fact that the HZD game area was not on the front line (during the Faro Plague), explain why there are no Adamantine Wreath-type Metal Flowers in HZD (because their use was reserved for the HFW zone, as that was where the main and final conflict was)? Even if that is true, why would there not (now) also be the recent (non-vine type) Metal Flowers in the HFW game area, where re-seeding has/is taking place? Just asking (and questing).

Love the content. 25k Subs! I think an interesting idea for a video would be to revisit some of the trailer breakdown predictions and see which ones were on the money, which ones were off, and which ones we never saw coming.

Oh, is that what the wreathes were for? I admit that had me puzzled while playing. I'm kinda sad that the flowers in HFW didn't come with the poems they had in HZD! Just in general I would've liked more of DEMETER as a character. The Lord Byron poem is great, very appropriate, but there could have been more.

Hey RSQ, I finally finished the game which means I can stop avoiding your videos like the plague in fear of spoilers. Thank you for this awesome video! Excited to see what you thought of the ending 👀!!

I would love to see some of the old world machines, (aside from the killing ones...)

Thank you for continuing this great series

Wow, what an informative video! Great job man

As with ZD lore videos, I'll be watching and rewatching and rewatching. And rewatching. And replaying. And rewatching until I fully understand the lore.

Great work, RSQ!

I only just got around to returning DEMETER to GAIA and I was shocked to learn about the metal flowers origins, as always thank you for making this amazing Horizon content.

I absolutely LOVE your work! Please keep it coming…😊

Amazing video

keep up ur videos are the best 🔥

The quest that introduced the origin of the Flowers and the Quen was one of my favourite due to its layout and story, what is your favourite main or side quest?

Hey I would love a video about Vegas lore! Awesome as always😁

More lore? Bring it on. 😎

Maybe I missed it but what is the reason they opened up upon proximity in HZD but they are locked in HFW? If they were always designed to trap and starve, what’s the purpose of the added function ?

I had trouble following that. Going to listen again after I fi is the game. I just finished finding out what happened to Ted Farrow.

So like those metal flowers we collected for that side quest in Zero Dawn...are they the same? A different variant? Cause I could pick those easily...they also didn't have vines...is that because they werent activated...just dropped into location? Will they start to vine in the poor collectors homes?

What happened to the extra Gaia kernel that beta had and can they copy the subfunctions to it now that they have the oddyssey space craft .

Can you make a video about the "Black Boxes" of Forbidden West?

The statement "The potential was just too great to succumb to what MIGHT happen." strikes me as the actual culmination of human arrogance in this series. They truly believed that so long as they were at the helm of development and progress, then what COULD go wrong, won't.

I feel guilty collecting those flowers now

Question. that can explain the wreaths but not the metal flowers in HZD. they are not the same. True the Metal flowers in HZD was for "seed germination" yet still had the poems inside and was always in the middle of a triangle of flowers. Demeter's alpha was Tanaka Naoto liked poetry (conclusion by Cyan.) this is not the wreaths creator Tala Aquino eventho they both seemed to like poetry. if it was Tala that put the poetry code in the wreaths. could have been Tanaka as part of the Green House, and Liz may have tapped Tanaka to be the Alpha for Demeter. but why the Metal flowers in HZD? for in HFW we know that the Widemaws and Plowhorns sow the seeds. but why Metal flowers in HZD?

I'm so happy huehuehuehue

Why did the dreadwing deployed the metal flowers? I mean, demeter and hephaïstos weren't friends so...

Why would faro make his machine self replicate, wouldn't that lower his profits? Seem like a dumb corporate decision.

it is such a pitty, Ted Faro could have done so much good.

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