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Lost Ford: The Mondeo ST220 Review 

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Prices of fast classic Fords have been going crazy lately, with people lusting after things like the Mk2 Focus ST and RS, as well as the much older Cosworths that came before them.
One Ford however has refused to depreciate - that's this, the Mondeo ST220. But why? I drive it and find out what it's all about.
#Ford #Mondeo #ST220
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Комментарии : 621   
@LiamE69
@LiamE69 5 лет назад
29 and the years have been kind to you. The weekends did some damage though.
@LiamE69
@LiamE69 5 лет назад
@Kris Nicholson Feel free. I stole it from Paul O'Grady.
@bondjamesbond5580
@bondjamesbond5580 4 года назад
Hahahaha 😂
@joelsmith9311
@joelsmith9311 3 года назад
Bahahahahaha! Savage burn, I’m definitely using that... 😂
@markbro4427
@markbro4427 5 лет назад
Great cars,I have an 03 2.5 V6 Zetec S...had it since 06,its had a couple of springs and wheel bearings but it's been mechanically bulletproof and no rust.
@lexburen5932
@lexburen5932 5 лет назад
This generation of mondeo, ether it is the general mondeo or the st220, was awarded with the best chassis at that time available, At least in the Netherlands
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 5 лет назад
I saw a modded ST220 in Sheffield with a full on NFS underground style body kit and bonnet scoop. I'm embarrassed to say it actually looked really cool, something deliciously inappropriate about it. I would love you to get your hands on the old Mazda6 MPS that Clarkson reviewed with the ST220, that sounds fabulous albeit rarer.
@lawrenceheath956
@lawrenceheath956 5 лет назад
One over here. Be it slightly tickled 😂
@jase_llan
@jase_llan 5 лет назад
6 MPS suffers terribly with rust, same as all other Mazda 6s.
@frankcurtis6179
@frankcurtis6179 3 года назад
I've been a fan of the Mondeo since it first hit the forecourts and in 1999 I bought a 2.3 litre GXL I kept that car till 2017 and now regret selling it because it was the very definition of reliability, never failing an MOT and never letting me down. NO matter what the weather it started every time on the first turn of the starter. The only things that needed renewing were bake pads, timing belt, exhaust and dampers and, of course during servicing, plugs and filers. It had been round the clock twice and when I got rid of it, it still drove as good as the day I bought it. In my opinion the Mondeo was one of the finest saloon cars ever built by Ford. Oh, and the person who bought it was one of the mechanics who gave it it 's annual service each year and he's still driving it.
@natesquiggles6666
@natesquiggles6666 5 лет назад
Niceee, my dad used to have one of these, but before I could appreciate it unfortunately
@DunateoRom8v37
@DunateoRom8v37 5 лет назад
I bought a 07 Fiesta xr4 (Australian ST) with the 2l Duratec in it. I love it and I am 35. My wife love. My two young boys love it. I would love to own the Focus ST and this Mondeo. How great would it be to own the 4, 5 and V6 ST models of that era.
@mr2gti
@mr2gti 5 лет назад
Had one, loved it - moved to a Golf R (MK7) from it.
@KXP70
@KXP70 5 лет назад
It's quite a drastic reduction in steering feel isn't it.
@mr2gti
@mr2gti 5 месяцев назад
@@KXP70 I found the Golf to be an amazing all-rounder. The Mondeo was the absolute perfect wafter. The 208 GTi BPS I had after was absolutely immense for steering feel.
@saltbjorn
@saltbjorn Год назад
‘Young chaps that own fast fords’ Me, 20, having just bought an ST220 of my own: 🙃
@davidhayes4814
@davidhayes4814 5 лет назад
The hyundai i30N weighs almost exactly the same as this Ford....... 1440kg.
@jase_llan
@jase_llan 5 лет назад
Crazy stat that shows how lardy cars have become!
@dungareesareforfools
@dungareesareforfools 5 лет назад
Actually though, so does the mk2 Focus ST from 2006.
@johntimken9842
@johntimken9842 5 лет назад
Very timely. I've reached an age where getting in and out of an Elise is going to become more and more embarrassing, and thoughts are turning towards sporty land barges like the Mondeo/Superb/A5/5 series etc. Thanks for the review, a lot to ponder here.
@SirMrShanks
@SirMrShanks 2 года назад
Would an x358 Jaguar tickle your fancy?
@davidviner4932
@davidviner4932 5 лет назад
You are right, Machine Silver is an interesting colour compared to normal silver
@craigd8624
@craigd8624 5 лет назад
Absolutely love my final facelift ST220. It's a pleasure to drive everytime
@dosgos
@dosgos 5 лет назад
Thoroughly enjoyed the narrative!
@moviebod
@moviebod 5 лет назад
Everything else being equal, you can't beat a performance saloon, as long as it is made well. .
@Rs500ybd
@Rs500ybd 3 года назад
i'm 50 and fitter than most 29 year old's The Best Cars Ever Produced By Ford Are The Rs 500 Mk 1 Rs 2000 Mk 1 Mexico Mk 2 Rs 2000 Mk 2 Mexico Mk 2 Harrier But the Daddy's are The Escos and the Rs 200 Mk 1 Focus ST. The Car You are Currently Driving is held back by electronics .
@Rs500ybd
@Rs500ybd 3 года назад
P.s To punish a Ford You need to Know how to sling a car sideways at 70 if not then Do not Try it. The MPG is all down to the Base map they are Not Running Optimal Map from Development.
@dbnpoldermans4120
@dbnpoldermans4120 5 лет назад
Not super loud, but sounds nice
@ItzJigz187
@ItzJigz187 2 года назад
This car in the panther black paint job, 👌
@dalebillster
@dalebillster 5 лет назад
He's just basically ripped off a really nice ST220. Clearly a German car fan. Doesn't do the 220 any justice. He didnt drive it how he should do for one thing. That engine loves to be revved, much noisier & kicks a load more 4k+ revs. Ive owned both the st220 and the ST diesel version for over three years and I'd never go elsewhere. Soon to be ford classics
@thewaymaker6001
@thewaymaker6001 5 лет назад
I want this BMW ST , where can I buy one? Looks good and wow 220bhp is good
@3storiesUp
@3storiesUp 3 года назад
Second time I've tried to watch this video .. second time I've failed. Your constant berating of a really good car for no other reason than badge snobbery is annoying.
@almighty151986
@almighty151986 5 лет назад
If you're 29 and you lusted after the Focus RS go and slap yourself...... I'm 33 and for us it should be the best fast Ford ever made..... The Escort Cossie...
@alexkelk4131
@alexkelk4131 5 лет назад
One problem my dad had with this car is the wheels. He fucked up all 4 and he drives like an old man.
@61percentodicarica
@61percentodicarica Год назад
Isn't this a highway machine? I don't think it's for B roads at all
@NomadJRG
@NomadJRG 5 лет назад
A good car but the Saab 9-3 Aero 2.0T is a good alternative, faster, safer, more comfortable and economical.
@davelowe1647
@davelowe1647 5 лет назад
Prefer the x type with same engine with a few more horses from it and awd
@thegearknob7161
@thegearknob7161 3 года назад
I really like the X type too, but it's a very different character. I drove one again earlier today. Engine is unquestionably better, more powerful and smoother. However there's a lot less room in them because the wheelbase is shorter than the Mondeo, and you couldn't get a hatchback.
@justaskingstoke6139
@justaskingstoke6139 5 лет назад
good vid mate
@leedorey3768
@leedorey3768 3 года назад
I had one of these and the ST200 before it.
@cabovermike
@cabovermike 4 года назад
If nick frost did car reviews !
@rjhandley556
@rjhandley556 2 года назад
Absolutely love my 220 estate. Great to drive, seats and steering definitely the highlight I agree. The engine is also under rated, get it up above 5k RPM it comes alive, and the car can handle the power it’s given. Extremely under rated car, I’ll be keeping mine forever
@remzinoclips
@remzinoclips 5 месяцев назад
Hiya mate, I don't suppose you'll reply 2 years later but what's it like to drive size wise? I've got a vw polo as my first car and it's a tiny little cheese block. How much of a step up we talking lol?
@rjhandley556
@rjhandley556 4 месяца назад
@@remzinoclips you’ll be fine, will take a bit of getting used to but nothing overly intimidating.
@Bloempot12
@Bloempot12 Месяц назад
@@rjhandley556do you have a lot of problems with the car of is it rilliable
@rjhandley556
@rjhandley556 Месяц назад
@@Bloempot12 nothing serious. Brake calliper slightly seized and drop links that’s about it
@realdonaldtrump69420
@realdonaldtrump69420 Месяц назад
@@Bloempot12 In my experience I had some problems with the rear dampers when overloading with weight. I always had to change them if I had to carry a bunch of stuff
@matt.morganphotography
@matt.morganphotography 5 лет назад
Great review. Ive had my ST220 for 4 months now after owning many BMW’s, i think i prefer the ST. Mine is remapped and has an uprated exhaust which gives off an amazing sound from that V6 engine. You’d be welcome to take a look 👍
@futbolists7
@futbolists7 4 года назад
Is it RWD or FWD?
@julosx
@julosx 3 года назад
@@futbolists7 FWD of course.
@ralfhenke677
@ralfhenke677 3 года назад
Video please!!! ;-)
@saltbjorn
@saltbjorn Год назад
What does it make having been mapped both in bhp and mpg? I’ve just bought an ST220 of my own and looking for a touch more noise
@Nimmo1492
@Nimmo1492 5 лет назад
I wish Ford still did an ST version of the Mondeo. Or even an RS version...
@DillonCatterson
@DillonCatterson 2 года назад
They have those st lines but they're nowhere near as class as these.
@alevoulas2338
@alevoulas2338 2 года назад
@@DillonCatterson If ford decided to make an RS version of this i believe this car would be largely more popular.
@baxter009
@baxter009 2 года назад
They did in the US, it is the Fusion Sport with 325hp and all wheel drive.
@jamiemoorcroft2166
@jamiemoorcroft2166 2 года назад
Bro an rs would be insane!! 😂
@Mechanicalrob
@Mechanicalrob 5 лет назад
I thought Mike Brewer had been on a weekend sesh for a minute 😂
@ldforever567
@ldforever567 5 лет назад
That made me chuckle. Cheeky git. 😂
@bensmithkent22
@bensmithkent22 3 года назад
You seen the state of mike brewer lately?? Id say hes bigger.
@Nathan-ng1jt
@Nathan-ng1jt 2 года назад
Who is Mike Brewer? Naïvely, I merely came here for reasonably cerebral car reviews.
@ItzJigz187
@ItzJigz187 2 года назад
Hold out your haaaaaaaaand
@ItzJigz187
@ItzJigz187 2 года назад
Broo don't do Jay like that. Mikes a snake oil salesmem. Jay is a honest car reviewer
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 5 лет назад
That's a very tasty Mondeo indeed, James! Thanks for doing this review, it is certainly an overlooked gem.
@radionautomatic
@radionautomatic 5 лет назад
29!?! Come off it! I'm 36 and you could be my dad 😂
@vergecryptocurrency4552
@vergecryptocurrency4552 5 лет назад
Lol
@bondjamesbond5580
@bondjamesbond5580 4 года назад
Hahahahaha 😂😅
@fullcontrol1000
@fullcontrol1000 4 года назад
Now that is bloody funny :-)
@bazasulli4975
@bazasulli4975 5 лет назад
WANT. I've always loved the mk3 mondeo in any spec and any engine but Christ alive that Duratec V6 has an amazing sound and I'm not a big V6 fan.
@Dazza2292
@Dazza2292 5 лет назад
I'd avoid the diesel St had one.. Terrible
@SilliusSodus
@SilliusSodus 5 лет назад
Can you give a 156 GTA / 147 GTA a good look? Similar era and similar kind of drivetrain and engine but it cost twice as much as a Subaru WRX saloon (the Hawkeye one at that). A video on those would be good.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 лет назад
Definitely will be doing a 156 when I can
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 5 лет назад
I had a nosey at a mint 147 GTA that was in my alfa specialist's shop while my car was being worked on and it's glorious! The engine had been polished up and had a few more bits painted than stock, that busso V6 was one of the sexiest looking and sounding things ever. Shame they're FWD
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 5 лет назад
Christopher O'Grady engine is work of art. Kinda reminds me of an orchestra ☺
@ralfhenke677
@ralfhenke677 5 лет назад
@@JayEmmOnCars I very much recommend to go for a 2.5 rather than the overly bodykitted GTA with its fantastic looking but underwhelmingly performing seats, though. In real life conditions, the 2.5 is probably just as fast but a lot more refined and usable. With an aftermarket exhaust you could even get it to sound just as gorgeous as the GTA's 3.2. A V6 156 in Sportswagon shape, painted in that pearlescant blue is a thing that'd keep me awake at nights. One of my fav cars ever, I must say. That gorgeous V6 mated to a first class FWD chassis and topped with what was arguably one of the 1990s prettiest cars (outside and inside) was just an automotive dream. Hell, even the rather modest 2.0 Twin Spark was all fun. And please do us all a favour: Forget about the 147 GTA. It was, well, how do I put this politely? A very pretty and sweet sounding undriveable piece of junk (just my 5 cents ... so here we go: Alfisti shitstorm in 3...2...1...) ;-)
@bensmithkent22
@bensmithkent22 3 года назад
@@ralfhenke677 1 year later no storm? Wrong place to comment. But share the love for the rare 156 2.5 my favourite compact exec of the late late 90s.
@viktord1
@viktord1 5 лет назад
Clarkson said this car was better than a 3 series back then.
@robertcmcnamara
@robertcmcnamara 5 лет назад
If Clarkson jumped off a cliff, I'd climb up a mountain.
@TheWretchedWorld
@TheWretchedWorld 5 лет назад
he said it was better than the base model e46 3 series, not the 3 series in general.
@cologne2792
@cologne2792 5 лет назад
He said specifically, " Every time I drive one of these things I always get out thinking, Why do we buy anything else ? "
@interceptorm5
@interceptorm5 5 лет назад
@NutriFIT nutritie si fitnes Actually he said it was more exclusive than DB9
@ryandeketenor932
@ryandeketenor932 5 лет назад
Gran tour s3 e14, called on respectful history and making money, i just bought a ST24 for 3k AUD with 70k KM on the clock. It wasn't option after that episode, as a VW guy i am a happy man!
@stuarthunter7559
@stuarthunter7559 4 года назад
Described by Clarkson as the only car you really need when it came out I believe
@LawrenceTimme
@LawrenceTimme 5 лет назад
The Mk3 Mondeo was one of the best cars ever. 😁
@prudiceflc
@prudiceflc 3 года назад
agaaaain =OOOOOO
@LawrenceTimme
@LawrenceTimme 3 года назад
@@prudiceflc everywhere :D
@prudiceflc
@prudiceflc 3 года назад
@@LawrenceTimme is insane! x) got one mondeo 107kw now thinking bout st220 but is long shot)
@LawrenceTimme
@LawrenceTimme 3 года назад
@@prudiceflc the st220 is a great car. i had the ST TDCI rempped as the diesel was cheaper to insure at the time. Its still a great looking car, loads of space and the ST has good sound and performance.
@dpayne8611
@dpayne8611 3 года назад
@@LawrenceTimme as a former owner of a st220. Please tell me whats so good about it? Expensive to run, extremely unreliable and boring to drive?
@furiousdriving
@furiousdriving 5 лет назад
I still see Mk3 Mondeos and think they look sharp, despite my less than stellar experience I actually wouldn't mind another
@gaffnaldo1
@gaffnaldo1 4 года назад
Ha..... I know who you are! 😅
@SteveMillersm101
@SteveMillersm101 5 лет назад
Enjoyed the video. Handsome car in either hatch or saloon. I would pick this over a 330 of the same time. Probably less rust and more bang for your buck to boot.
@notmanynamesleft
@notmanynamesleft 5 лет назад
E90 330i is in a different league to this old Sierra!
@Destroyah32
@Destroyah32 4 года назад
notmanynamesleft talking E46 🤦‍♂️
@MrLg55555
@MrLg55555 3 года назад
@@notmanynamesleft, maybe on the acceleration and top speed front, but handling wise..... No chance. A well looked after ST220 would leave an E90 330 on a twisty road, in its wake..... No danger. The only thing lacking in the Mondeo mk3 range, was a real performance version. In the very late 90's early 2000's, Jaguar/Ford developed a Supercharged 3.0 V6 that developed 350 bhp and its intended use was in a Mondeo with 4 wheel drive..... However, Ford decided, wrongly in my eyes, to abandon this direction for fear of treading on its luxury brands toes! A development of this engine found its way into the Supercharged XF 3.0 V6 4x4 with 380bhp. I was working at Jaguar Engineering, Whitley, Coventry at the time and there was a number of modified Mondeo mk2's used for development purposes,with this engine on board, in varying drive configurations. Plus the Supercharged V8 in similar development Mondeos. A 4x4 Supercharged V6 Mondeo would have run rings clean around an E90 M3 and I most certainly would've bought one.
@rmatt375
@rmatt375 5 лет назад
Great to see an up to date and independent review of the ST220. I bought a pristine 95k mile estate 4 years ago and its lived up to my expectations - quick, reliable and great fun to drive. I agree with most of your comments, the seats are very comfortable for many hours at the wheel but they are designed for a surprisingly wide body. The fuel consumption can be in the mid 30s but I have also had 17mpg caning it on B roads. The stock exhaust makes for a quiet and relaxed car when its not being thrashed but a sports exhaust system really brings out the wonderful V6 noise. Taking the air filter out for a quick run does nothing for the performance (in fact the ECU hates it and refuses to let the car idle) but it does make a great induction noise. At the time of purchase I also tried a BMW530i which was probably a bit faster but it didn't carry the same sense of excitement as the ST , it felt more like a big car with a big engine but lacked the sense of driver involvement. Definitely not what I was looking for. I also tried the ST diesel which had more torque than the 220 but lacked the flexibility of the V6 which can drive from 30 to 150 in 6th. Also the diesels were more expensive and you can expect some big bills around 100k which would mo1re than pay for the extra fuel in the 220. This is my second V6 ST, previously I had a ST24 estate and drove that from 13,000 miles to 160,000. That also had a totally reliable engine, I just regularly changed the oil. Both v6s have hydraulic tappets and chain driven cams so there is very little inside this bullet proof engine to bring you nasty bills. In your test, you liked the 6 speed box. Personally I preferred the 5 speed on the ST24 because when you are out on the B roads enjoying yourself you are using 3rd and 4th which is much faster change than the equivalent 4th to 5th on the 6 speed box. I was surprised you found the handling sluggish but there again I haven't tried a modern hot hatch with a shorter wheelbase. Overall I love driving the car and love its combination of fun on windy roads, comfortable long distance cruising and great practical load carrying capacity. They are an absolute bargain if you find a nice one! Thanks for the review.
@alanhughes7569
@alanhughes7569 2 года назад
I have read that the Estate is the best handling Mondeo.
@TheProrider17
@TheProrider17 5 лет назад
Thanks again for the review James, was a pleasure.
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon 5 лет назад
You DO look like someone who's lead a long, hard life! But who cares? A top bloke is a top bloke, regardless. ST220 is epic and underrated, I always saw it as the modern Sierra Saphire.
@konradmroczek2496
@konradmroczek2496 5 лет назад
I've always liked the shape. New one is too bulky. ST220 would be great to own.
@dirkdiggler69
@dirkdiggler69 5 лет назад
The problem with this car and others like it is £500 road tax in the uk.
@davediesel90
@davediesel90 5 лет назад
€1500 annual tax in Ireland :(
@rmatt375
@rmatt375 5 лет назад
Not if you get a 2005 model!
@Depp500
@Depp500 2 года назад
Vrhunski automobil, neusporedivog upravljanja. Imao sam običnog Mondea, sada vozim BMW 5, ali volan kakav je imao Mondeo Mk3, više nisam imao. Neki podcjenjuju Ford, ali to su frustrirane neznalice 👍
@joecarrolljnr
@joecarrolljnr 5 лет назад
Have owned a 2003 ST220 since 04. Don't think I will ever part with it. Their rare in Ireland as road tax is steep (€1500). Only big expense with mine was a steering rack. Bullet proof reliability.
@kellypaws
@kellypaws 5 лет назад
My 2 Litre handled brilliantly. Hardly driven a nicer balanced car before, or since. The only thing that hurts Ford is snobbery. And that's a genuine shame.
@jase_llan
@jase_llan 5 лет назад
@kellypaws it's not a shame at all, keeps them under the radar!
@petelattimer6808
@petelattimer6808 4 года назад
shame they dropped all the decent engines from the Mondeo. buying new its pretty much diesel or hybrid, and even the diesels are just crappy little 1.5s
@hologram1211
@hologram1211 4 года назад
I have had two ST220s and loved them both, really versatile all-round family car that is also a lot of fun to drive on your own. Recently did a 3000 mile roadtrip in it including long stretches of German Autobahn and it was quite happy at 130mph for extended blasts with much newer less individual vehicles. Thanks for the review. Definitely a forgotten future classic!
@HaulYouNeedisLove
@HaulYouNeedisLove 5 лет назад
Car spotter trivia fact: Jag S-Type R is 4.2 V8 400 horses.
@ItzJigz187
@ItzJigz187 2 года назад
This car is the basis for soo many other cars. So under appreciated. Fortunately manufacturers know and that's why they go to Ford for engines like this
@ippo3963
@ippo3963 4 месяца назад
The thing is that its not a ford engine... its a Porsche engine sold to Ford
@AdamLeask
@AdamLeask 5 лет назад
I recently purchased a 2004 Mk3 Mondeo in standard Zetec guise. I used to have one of these cars years ago and missed the practicality of it. It still strikes me how comfortable this car is and just how effortless it is to drive on a daily basis, as just about all modern cars now have large rims and stiff suspension.
@themanipulator1
@themanipulator1 5 лет назад
A great review, I totally agree with your stance on modern micro suv shit boxes
@carrgazz1
@carrgazz1 Год назад
That’s my old st220 loved it,one of my most favourite cars.
@carrgazz1
@carrgazz1 Год назад
Nice to see it’s still going,and being well looked after
@1970boggy
@1970boggy 5 лет назад
LOL! I’m 48 and I’m never called middle aged. 45 - 65 is middle age you a young guy James 😂👍 That car is an unusual these days. I believe more Bentleys were sold than the ST Mondeo
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 5 лет назад
#topgearfacts
@PiousMoltar
@PiousMoltar 5 лет назад
People don't generally (or ever) live to be 130 so calling 65 "middle aged" seems like a bit of a stretch.
@PiousMoltar
@PiousMoltar 5 лет назад
@John Mitchell He literally said he was 29 at the start of the video, how did you miss that?
@1970boggy
@1970boggy 5 лет назад
PiousMoltar You understand the concept of middle age do you?
@richardbryant3169
@richardbryant3169 5 лет назад
@@1970boggy well doesn't middle age mean the middle of your life?so the average Life expectancy is about 80ish maybe 90 so if someone is in their 40's that's regarded as middle age.
@robertevans6418
@robertevans6418 5 лет назад
You are middle aged, you'll be lucky to hit 60 if you don't start eating less.
@nbrooks1799
@nbrooks1799 5 лет назад
Great video, and some well made points I’ve noticed over the last year of owning one. But great cars nonetheless, look amazing, sound great (much better with a performance exhaust), reasonably rare, have a great community surrounding them and great handling when you consider the size and weight. You go to Ford car shows and it’s: Focus, fiesta, Focus, Fiesta, Focus, Fiesta, Focus, (and what’s coming up next, yes another:) Fiesta. Be different! The Aforementioned cars mainly all have the same mods and require so much to be done to them (mod wise) to get noticed, I was watching a leaving video (some 30 mins long) from a Ford based car show the other day and there was one Mondeo, one, in the back of the shot, they’re widely overlooked motors in this world of crossover s**t and got hatches so please give them the attention they deserve!
@cyclemartin4073
@cyclemartin4073 5 лет назад
It’s a shame the old ST220 doesn’t get Much recognition it’s a Solid car. Comfortable & Fast handles surprisingly good for its size , it’s 0-60mph time may not be the quickest but it goes well once on the move. The 3litre can hold a good speed on the motorway for quite some miles. It’s a good motorway mile muncher .
@ahoneyman
@ahoneyman 4 года назад
The Duratec V6 is a fun little motor and the Mondeo is a well sorted chassis. There's more grip than you expect and it doesn't plow with mountains of understeer.
@davespooney8472
@davespooney8472 5 лет назад
Please try a Puma 1.7 😘 Ps the ST220 saloon drives a bit better, they will cock a rear wheel, the hatch ST220 you were in are still a damn good steer though 👍 Oh and the S-Type R never had a 4.0 or 370bhp. 😂
@andrewjoseph149
@andrewjoseph149 3 года назад
Man I own one of these an 02 year ST220 V6 3.0 Litre and it is mint after considerable input and you're boring. Very. I jumped out and took the roll and bruises well worth it. Worse than Piers Morgan.
@janbert75v6
@janbert75v6 5 лет назад
Got one. Mine isn't as perfect as this anymore but after almost 10 years of ownership, stil a great allrouner!
@SoulTouchMusic93
@SoulTouchMusic93 4 года назад
35 mpg? in that? did he drive both ways downhill with a tail hurracane?
@SmellsLikeGASOLINE
@SmellsLikeGASOLINE 5 лет назад
S-type R : 406hp ; )
@AlexTrain5249
@AlexTrain5249 5 лет назад
The car that Jeremy, Richard, and James all like.
@brianrocks7277
@brianrocks7277 5 лет назад
You are in poor trim for 29 buddy. Maybe a gym membership and a few less buns.
@mrwick7961
@mrwick7961 5 лет назад
tbf i thought u were in ur 40s but ur younger than i am :/ lol
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 5 лет назад
James has had a hard life of M3 ownership
@stevenham1937
@stevenham1937 5 лет назад
I would've said mid 40's to tbh
@TRC98
@TRC98 2 года назад
I have the non-ST version of this car (ghia X) and man I love it (when it works). I would love a ST220, the torque and space is addictive
@samanthabartrum3885
@samanthabartrum3885 5 лет назад
I live in the area you're test driving this 220, my 220 loves the bends around here! It's so much fun to drive on the Sudbury road in it. Great review and a lovely example of the ST220!
@samanthabartrum3885
@samanthabartrum3885 5 лет назад
They don't if they're standard. When they're lowered they corner like an eel. I love throwing mine around bends lol.
@samanthabartrum3885
@samanthabartrum3885 5 лет назад
@@Codzilla71 haha! She's a cutie bless her.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 лет назад
What suspension did you put on?
@ravensthorne4631
@ravensthorne4631 5 лет назад
Good video. I loved my ST220, best all-rounder car I've had. I've got a Mk4 2.5T now, which is quicker off the mark but not as great on country roads as the ST.
@lawrenceheath956
@lawrenceheath956 5 лет назад
I contemplated one of these for my first (quicker) car. Ended up with the Mazda 6 MPS which might even fly under the radar more than the ST220. 4 years later It still makes me smile.
@healthiswealth8153
@healthiswealth8153 3 года назад
MP6 is very underrated and rare
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 3 года назад
The Mazda 6 MPS is a very rare and brisk car, good choice. Recently bought an ST220 myself.
@jediknight108
@jediknight108 3 года назад
Something special about these cars they just look so good!
@grzegorzhugo2287
@grzegorzhugo2287 5 лет назад
ST220 Uwielbiam ten samochód !!!
@stephandolby
@stephandolby 5 лет назад
My brother had an early '07 ST TDCi for a few years and whilst they're more common, not as fast as the 220 and not as good sounding, it was certainly capable, much cheaper to run and I liked it in blue. When he got rid, I was a bit disappointed.
@jaket9198
@jaket9198 4 года назад
My diesel version st tdci was mapped up to 210 on dyno very fast and enjoyable car Shame its falling to pieces and nearly replaced every part in the dam thing but none the less still love it but I will not pay 500 plus for the st220 road tax after 2004 model,Shame il stick to my diesel
@MrMairu555
@MrMairu555 4 года назад
The TDCi ST is very underrated, but can indeed be a bit fragile. Mine was mapped at 205hp with an alloy intercooler, decat, and EGR blank, but it was the torque that was most impressive. Fuel economy was almost double my ST220 after the remap (60mpg on full-tank cross-country A-road return trips to places like Anglesey, Cadwell, and Snetterton), and the tax was half as much! The diesel was a no brainer, and as much as the petrolheads hate to admit it, has better weight distribution than the V6 and therefore handles just that little bit better. Just need to be be lucky with that high pressure common rail fuel injection.... it can get real expensive real fast if it goes wrong. I was one of the lucky ones though. Both the ST220 and TDCi ST actually cost me very little. Worst thing on them was the constant hand brake/rear caliper failures!
@jamescarson6681
@jamescarson6681 5 лет назад
Is there a link to the Pistonheads forum/article on you looking 'middle aged'? I remember TGE TV didn't get a good reputation on there so he mocks those members haha
@Zadster
@Zadster 5 лет назад
Incidentally, the Ford Duratec V6 was originally designed by Porsche for Ford and the ST220 was also made in hatchback and estate form, and the same engine was available in Ghia X and Titanium X trim. You might want to get the owner of this ST220 to check the suspension bushes and maybe the front dampers. It really shouldn't be in any way floaty and squishy around corners. Mondeos are known for their cornering chuckability, and STs in particular should corner like they are on rails. 14 years down the line, the dampers and bushes will be getting more than a little tired. I suspect the exhaust system has started to break up internally and the rockwool filler is clogging up, because the 2.5 V6 I drive sounds more vocal than this one. Check various RU-vid videos to compare. As you say though, it is getting a new exhaust anyway. Don't put a cone filter on, it will sound louder but it messes with the fuelling and the hot under-bonnet air temperatures aren't good for power.
@johnmcquay82
@johnmcquay82 5 лет назад
I heard that about the filters; so many people said about putting in a K&N Cone filter, a friend at work recommended I stick to the panel filter. I bought a washable Pipercross, and just dropped it in the regular filter box. Not sure what real effect it has other than the placebo. The back box is rotting out on one side, so a Miltek will be going on this summer.
@Zadster
@Zadster 5 лет назад
@@johnmcquay82 Panel filter is a good compromise I think. While you are underneath the car, check how old the fuel filter is. An old clogged one can restrict power.
@andreaslarsson3999
@andreaslarsson3999 5 лет назад
Probably a solid daily driver!Modern cars has a lot of bullshit electronics!!
@longden57
@longden57 3 года назад
One thing that utterly transforms the handling and grip on these mk3 ST Mondoes is good tyres, Eibach Pro springs, and the Focus ST 320mm brakes. I run the Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 5 tyres and all of the above, and recently replaced the stock dampers with new O.E items and the thing is a bloody dream on the twisties! (always worth getting the full 4 wheel alignment checked, it can really make or break the handling characteristics when it's out on rear). The turn-in and mid-corner adjustability, aswell as the outright grip on the Eibachs and the Goodyear is night and day over stock setup. And the 320mm brakes give the car the braking ability to match the grip from the sticky rubber. This setup makes the Mk3 ST feel like a much smaller and more nimble car, especially when compared to today's relatively heavy modern equivalents :) I should ad - the Eibach springs don't ruin the ride quality to much, nor do they sit the car on its arse. The Eibach Pro kit feels like it was seriously well developed to give the car the sporty look and feel it should have left the factory with. Mine doesn't feel anymore firm or harsh than some of today's sporty saloons and hatchbacks.
@mabskha7917
@mabskha7917 5 лет назад
To be honest I thought you were in your early 40s Just your character you give out
@willmagruder2861
@willmagruder2861 Год назад
3.0 is the sweet spot for a car that size, i drive an e39 530i and the engine is perfect, just something about early 00s cars.
@lewis72
@lewis72 Год назад
I've got a manual E60 530i. That M54B30 engine is a peach. Also very reliable and easy to service. I had a manual E39 528i before and changed it for the E60. However, I missed the E39 as I thought it was an excellent design, so I bought an E39 M5 as well a year later. Would like a Mk3 Mondeo as well, as being a hatch or estate, it's so much more practical than the E39 & E60 saloons.
@lanehogger1532
@lanehogger1532 5 лет назад
This ST is in great condition. Much better than the tired example Savage Garage are trying to mod.
@Bombastic_Spastic
@Bombastic_Spastic 5 лет назад
Savage garage's is a Diesel too - 150bhp! The titanium x has more power than the ST, joke of a car as a diesel rather have a pd150 golf.
@TheSavageGarage
@TheSavageGarage 5 лет назад
Mine has character
@Bombastic_Spastic
@Bombastic_Spastic 5 лет назад
Savage garage, yours needs a map or something. I was baffled by the power specs on the TDCI. They're not light cars either. Quite underwhelming.
@TheSavageGarage
@TheSavageGarage 5 лет назад
Townsy 876 mine is mapped to 180bhp and 400nm of torque
@Bombastic_Spastic
@Bombastic_Spastic 5 лет назад
@@TheSavageGarage That's more like it! All the tourques
@brentpowell7889
@brentpowell7889 5 лет назад
Had an identical car in 2006, it was good car for its time , however it was the most thirsty car I can remember owning , I was doing a few miles back then, constantly at the fuel station, had to sell due to the very poor mpg, no point buying 3.0 V6 and doing 50mph everywhere, however good value for money into days market.
@dazlad1972
@dazlad1972 2 года назад
If you don't like fords stop reviewing them. Some of us love old fords
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 Год назад
Jay, how does it compare to Legacy 3.0r Spec B?
@johnmontgomery634
@johnmontgomery634 5 лет назад
Iove my 07 st.tdci.best car ive owned..
@edjhutchinson
@edjhutchinson 4 года назад
Me too, mine's upto 253,000 miles now and still going strong!
@ChoppyChof
@ChoppyChof 4 года назад
I had an 07 tdci as well, though preferred my ‘98 ST24 for hard during on the back roads.
@Alfa_Addict
@Alfa_Addict 5 лет назад
Had one of these for 2 years - one of the best cars I ever had. It never missed a beat even though I abused it badly!
@devlad
@devlad 5 лет назад
I appreciate this car more than I did when it was released, because the styling is so simple compared to modern cars with tonnes of fake vents and aero. Also, stuff this talk about your age and physical condition, no one's business at any rate.
@bensmithkent22
@bensmithkent22 3 года назад
The thing is when it was released it looked absolutely huge. Compared to other family boxes of the era. Suddenly the b5 passat seemed small.
@joetaka7620
@joetaka7620 5 лет назад
5:02 is it a very different engine to _presumably_ the AJ30 (the V6 that Rocketeer use for their MX-5 conversion kit)?
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 лет назад
I think it's similar, but related. The Jag unit puts out a bit more power, 240 from memory in the s Type
@crustycorollas
@crustycorollas 5 лет назад
I definitely need to get one of these within the next couple years before they get rarer or expensive
@Menda_Lerenda
@Menda_Lerenda 5 лет назад
The problem is that is to big, for a fwd, to have fun in the bends. If you are into that I would suggest the forgotten Saab 9-5 Aero, that thing could wipe the floor with the Ford easily: frugal, faster, cheaper, stealthier and rarer. An absolute pig on back roads, fantastic on the highway. Some times I still miss it.
@chrwl007
@chrwl007 5 лет назад
The solution to the problem - Jaguar X-Type 3.0
@jase_llan
@jase_llan 5 лет назад
@@chrwl007 my dad has the X Type at the moment in estate guise, pulls nicely all the way through the revs and gears and tows with no problems! Also holds the road surprisingly well 👀
@tracktimevideos5164
@tracktimevideos5164 5 лет назад
These handle like a sportscar compared to any Saab which feel like buses.
@interceptorm5
@interceptorm5 5 лет назад
Do you miss torque steer that Saab generated as well?
@addz17
@addz17 5 лет назад
Saabs have fantastically overbuilt engines...or at least used to but their chassis and brakes are pretty poor. The GM platform is pretty shit as a driver car and i suggest you drive a few more cars if you think otherwise.
@westcoast747
@westcoast747 4 года назад
Still looks fairly modern and underrated car, maybe a classic in a few years time.
@dpayne8611
@dpayne8611 3 года назад
Too bad they dont last that long 😬
@James-cs2wi
@James-cs2wi Год назад
A great getaway car after you robbed a Post Office !!!!!!
@deceptiveanswer
@deceptiveanswer 5 лет назад
Lovely car indeed, I own an ST200 Limited Edition saloon, a proper head turner & only 89k on the clock.
@battman18
@battman18 5 лет назад
Got a 220, love it. Panel filter, Milltek catback and remap really livens them up. 246 bhp on the last dyno session, not rocket ship quick but more than enough to have some fun. Has most of the toys you want, a great all rounder.
@johnmcquay82
@johnmcquay82 5 лет назад
I love mine, and when you get to the power band in 6th gear, she starts pulling again when a lot of cars are running out of steam...
@robertcmcnamara
@robertcmcnamara 5 лет назад
One of the true sleeper cars. Have always lusted after one, but I fear that the insurance (per annum) would be more costly than the car.
@PiousMoltar
@PiousMoltar 5 лет назад
Don't listen to these people, you don't look a day over 29, Doug Demuro on the other hand looks like he could be your dad and he's what, 30, 31? I just turned 34 for reference. Couldn't believe Doug was younger than me. You on the other hand, I always assumed you were a couple of years younger.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 лет назад
Is Doug 31? Daaaamn
@lt1fd3s
@lt1fd3s 5 лет назад
In your MX-5/Miata video, you mentioned Rocketeer's V6 swap - that swap uses the AJ30 - the Jag version of the ST220's engine with VVT.
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