Without her the show would have no more traction. Karlie will blow her own spot up without the producers even asking. I think she is the only person that will have a start to end on a franchise and we are here for it.
Even Karlie's daughter could smell her fake sympathy. Talking about "I hope he don't hurt that girl" when she laughs at their situation any chance she gets. She even added fuel to the fire with her appearance at his bachelor party. Like who does that? Her blatant disrespect is what got her uninvited to their wedding, not Kendra feeling threatened by her. Joc will sleep with almost anything.
No matter how many times or how loudly Karlie screams through the hills that Joc isn't ready for marriage, she will always simmer that he is going through with it and it's not with her.
Right she’s just being childish jealous and bitter and it’s sad that his actual baby mothers ain’t acting like the way she is Fr it’s annoying kuz everytime she talk it’s always Joc name in her mouth
How? Enlighten me please....do y'all know the definition of single and taken? No one is officially off the market until you're MARRIED...I repeat MARRIED...not no bf/ gf, not no fiancee' either... you're still single when you're that... you're old enough to know that so stop acting as if you don't and if you didn't know Google does
Joc is for the streets, been for the streets and will always be for the streets. I do NOT understand how an educated, beautiful woman like Kendra could just blindly forge ahead with that marriage. She shouldn't even be in the same room with most of these people. She is of a different caliber, and she is lowering herself and her value just by dealing with him. She's in for such a rude awakening.
Joc lacks morals and values and has fathered more kids than he has time to properly raise. He continues to find women who don’t value themselves and accept whatever he does. But to be fair he’s an artist, performer, entrepreneur… I’m assuming to be that accomplished he is reasonably intelligent so from that perspective I can see an educated woman going for him. Putting up with the disrespect is what I don’t get.
That happens when a woman will forget herself just to say she has a man or she's a wife. I'll go to my grave single and happy before I settle for a diseased dog. That's what these men are spiritually diseased and broken
Karlie shouldn't have had plastic surgery on her face...she looks like a fictional character now. So sad...now she's more unhappy. Sn: just because a man desires you sexually doesn't mean a thing to him...some men see $ex as a sport. Kendra has his heart thats why he's marrying her. Stop being bitter Karlie. Move on.
Karlie was low key upset Sierra is IN Joc's wedding as a Bridesmaid for his soon to be Wife, who doesn't happen to be her; Karlie. Falling out the chair screaming all loudly she should have kept it mute and cute, but too bad that she just doesn't know how smh
You're so right. And she's mad with sierra that she's in it but knowing how sierra thinks with the "just because you don't like someone doesn't mean I have to" personality,she was extra dramatic. Instead of simply leaving it alone. If you have a problem with her being in the wedding simply tell her in private explain your feelings. If she's your REAL FRIEND then she wouldn't be in it. Sierra looked uncomfortable being in it anyway. She looks like she only did it because Kendra asked. But she didn't look content or Happy being there. Maybe deep inside she was hoping Karlie would say something that way she'd have her way out of the wedding. Also, Karlie is extremely immature. She knows that Kendra did her nothing at all. And if she's really over joc then why is she always in his business one way or another and befriending his exes????¿?
And I think that sina was always mad that Joc moved on. She wanted a family, he only gave her babies no marriage. And anyone else who may receive that position she'll give them hell. She's still angry that he's moved on. Sina and Karlie are both bitter. And sina are using the kids as a crutch to irritate their dad joc. She gave him a hard time only because she was having a hard time coping with the fact that he's actually getting married. She needs to let that go already. Dang. Miserable Karlie miserable sina. 2 birds of a feather causes hell together.
@Charnele Johnskn She went to Karlie's engagement party BEFORE Karlie started mess with her and threw a shoe at her almost getting beat tf up! I wouldn't have invited her ass either. Tf
I want women to know, remember and acknowledge that sleeping with a man IS NOT dating a man. Especially when he hasn't verbally made plans to commit to you. So Karlie and that other women comparing notes is really immature and extremely messy. And Karlie being surprised she wasn't invited to the wedding is laughable.
Gul hush that man was single up until the day he said I do....no one is actually taken unless you're MARRIED.... you're even single when you're bf/ gf and fiancee's...y'all children better do ya research so technically she didn't do nothing wrong...plus his loyalty lies with Kendra NOT Karlie
Fr not one of them looks better after having the work done ... They were pretty already / before , didn't need it n imo actually look worse .. smh. Sad.
I feel nothing but empathy for the girl that is marrying Joc because all these people are talking about her behind her back instead of going to her and being real....some of these people are in her wedding party and are sitting here with women who have claimed to have slept with the guy she's about to marry.....do yall not think she deserves to know this ????? And have no problem sitting in her face... this is disgusting
Me personally I'd want to know and i would've told her if i was her friend and especially in her wedding. Some folks feel the woman won't leave or will sweae someone's jealous. But I would've told her and let her do what she want with it. I would've definitely been the TALK alright 😊🤣🤣🤣I would've allowed everybody to show up and would've went ghost on every mf body!!!
@@princessmotloung5609 I say tell her if you know and what she does after is her problem but don't sit and play in her face that's all I'm saying ya know?
I must be the only one that don’t see anything wrong with Kendra asking a Sina if the kid’s could Be in the wedding🤷🏾♀️ I mean she is going to be the step mother 🤷🏾♀️ if the kids wasn’t in the wedding or asked to be in the wedding that would’ve been a problem as well 🙄 Sina knew this and she also said she likes Kendra. Now I can see if Sina didn’t know the woman. I THINK Sina thought the marriage would never happen 🤷🏾♀️ she still wants joc. Hell joc probably still smashing.
I haven’t watched the season - just this video. I think from what I saw, Sina had an issue with being contacted via Instagram. If Kendra wanted the kids in the wedding, it would have been more appropriate to actually sit down face-to-face with her. But I guess it all worked out in the end so it’s all good😅
I thought I was the only one who caught on to that I feel like she was more so mad about him getting married and not telling her than someone texting her and asking her can her daughter be a flower girl 🤣
@@ambercole3181 I understand that as well but it’s obvious that Kendra don’t have Sina number. So she reached out to her via dm. You gotta understand when you’re dealing with a ain’t shit man they will keep both parties separated. My ex did this to me when he finally got married. He didn’t want his wife to communicate with me. He made it seem as if I’m hostile and always wanting to fight🤣 that’s what his now wife told me. I told her I pop off with him about our kids idgaf what y’all got going on but it’s obviously something that’s not right in the water that he doesn’t want us communicating which is weird if she’s the step mother to our kid’s. I already knew what it was. He was cheating on me with her but I still dgaf🤣 and never let him that I knew that. Hell his friend Told me 🤣 you see carli still around and he still rubbing booties 🤣
i thought the issue was how Kendra asked. they could have done a group chat and invited the kiddies or FaceTime her. Sina didn't give me jealous vibes. let's see if they mention it at the reunion.
Yung Joc is a walking red flag 🚩 the way almost every season he has a new woman and a newborn baby is crazy. His wife got her work cut out for her with all his exes and baby moma drama. 😳
It’s crazy that karlie “not worried about Joc”, but she makes friends with his exes, pop up at all his events, and even told Kendra about his cheating in past. I just need someone to handle her ass frfr
Right! I can just tell their sex life is so boring. And maybe Rasheeda tries to spice it up, but it just always falls flat. And Kirk don't look like he can put it down NO WAY 🤣
Jocs sincerity and the way he speaks to his baby Mama's and admits accountability in some of the worst situations and evidently him doin his thang where needed is what has these women going cray about Joc😁. Women love this shit, even if it's fake. Jocs a smooth operator😆get em Joc
Kendra is a Mathematician 😍 BUT this drama with Joc ain’t adding up! 🤦🏾♀️ Karlie is Phony as Fu🤌🏾 and I’m glad Spice don’t let NOBODY play with her 💯😆🫢
Karlie is wrong, wrong, wrong and messy she is too old for this high-school behavior some people will do anything for a pay check. Karlie go find you some business of your own this is immature/petty behavior.
Exactly like that's exactly why Kendra probably didn't invite her, she always brings some drama or negative energy. Her actions so far in the show are exactly why, if she's the type of person to do all that stuff, like being at Jocs bachelor party, even if she's mad, it's not right and she isn't a good person. We know Joc is a cheater so we expect that but Karlie could've been the bigger person and she's not.
Ive always been a Karlie fan. Even though a lot of people didnt like her, I did. But this season really swayed me. Everything she did was so damn wrong and she is literally the Queen of messy and unhappiness. Smh. Whether Joc was ready to get married or not, that was not her problem nor was it her damn business!
It took you til season 10 to figure this out. Not season 5, not season 4, not season 6 and so on and so forth. But yet at season 10 you finally came to the realization that Karlie is messy and unhappy.
Karlie to old to be falling out on the floor screaming like that… it’s just embarrassing to be honest Karlie really needs some deep healing within her spirit..
@@alishatate7940 nobody’s sending her negative energy so stop projecting: everyone needs healing in certain areas and I’m pointing out facts thank youuuu
That entire scene pissed me off. Didn't even know they were celebrating Spices album because the entire conversation was Karlie talking about Joc. When she fell on the floor it pissed me right off.. rolling on the ground like a fucking child. Nobody told a joke. She's just being EXTRA and nuff like she always is. Did you see Spice's man. He just looked down at her like wtf are u doing down there. He was all getting 2nd hand embarrasment. And she literally was on the floor a hot 5 minutes or something... like bih STAND UP❗️❗️🤬
@@alishatate7940 sad? cut the melodramatics. sending negative energy? step into reality you nutcase because there is no such thing. karlie is negative all on her own so no one has to "send" her anything, grow up.
I was wondering how come the baby mama and son are not part of Kirk's story line when he has all his other kids on the show. Him having that baby and Rasheeda staying with him so easily still boggles my mind 🧐🤯. She knows he cheats and he had a baby...what else is there left to do except bring the next side chick to their house I guess🤷🏾♀️.
it's bc of RASHEEDA...especially since she's STILL more.MAD at Jasmine 4 sleeping with Kirk than she is at Kirk B.K.A. the "MARRIED" man sleeping with & creating a baby with Jasmine....smh
@@reddlady5997 she wanted to know the dates so she could let her kids know. I can't believe so many people don't understand this when it's so clearly like a duh moment, smh.
The problem is Karlie really hopes the 3 way relationship comes up she really wants to still be with joc so bad that she’ll do anything he involved with 😂😂
@@fatonyalmitchell3281 but she wants to be offered it rather than to ask LMAOO ! 😭 she’s obsessed with anyone he’s dating after her it’s weird she’s too old for one but I’m never that invested in a years old ex’s life ! Well not years old cause they obviously still been creeping but girllll you done been “engaged”, trynna have more kids & some more shit
I agree. I feel like if he act’s right this time they could actually make it. He been on IG for a while saying he’s ready to settle down. He didn’t want to settle with Mariahlynn cause he still had feelings for the “one that got away” (Erica)
Spice crazy as hell talking about she thought the party was about her so why she even introduce her friend as someone who dated Joc if she wanted to keep the focus on her she messy too & she knew damn well they all were gonna talk about it & make it a big deal
@@Tito-tn4ds exactly if she wanted the focus on her then Joc would have never came out her mouth period she started this mess even asking her friend on the show she could have spoken to her off camera at any time why wait until the red light goes on & why wait until everybody is around being messy
I don’t usually agree with Sina but she’s right for what she said to Joc it doesn’t matter how busy you are you never promise your child something and not follow through especially since your barely see them already and then come around and try to push for them to be in the wedding without even consulting his children that he’s getting married and their gonna have a stepmom.
I always feel bad for anyone who has a strained relationship with their parents. Watching Rasheeda trying to get her father to do the right thing is heartbreaking because that is something that a parent is supposed to do naturally. When a parent intentionally decides not to pick your calls or show up, there is only so much you can do. He will regret it one day, hopefully it won't be too late.
Trust me my dad is like that I haven’t talked to him in years & I’m not worried about him he cut everyone in his family off including my grandma(his mom) but I’m not worried about it because I have amazing family on both sides & that’s all that matters
Right because how tf have we NEVER seen her but she’s Spice’s “best friend” AND Spice ain’t know she was sleeping with her co-worker? Cus let’s be real, Joc & Spice are co-workers. How you don’t know yo “bestie” sleeping with a n***a you work with?! Girl, bye 🙄
@@bbyphathoneei But Sina credibility a little bit off. I'm stuck on her acting like this was the first time she heard Joc and Kendra was getting married. The DM Kendra sent wasn't the first time marriage was discussed with Sina.
Damn, watching Rasheeda talk on the phone with her father really brought me back to my relationship with my birth mother. Her and I have never had a good relationship, ever time we talk on the phone it’s nothing but yelling and screaming and I’ve had to learn to walk away from all that. I hope Rasheed’s and her dad can build a better relationship.
Same here my father got him a girlfriend and we was sent to foster care because he ain't want us anymore sat and married her and had kids and act like me and my siblings don't exist
"We know about Joc! That man has been everywhere!" As if Karlie hasn't been around the damned block more time than a mailman, a week away from retirement!
Karlie isn't really ready to be in the music industry at all.... Everyone knows she's excited hell I'd be excited too but she has to understand that Spice is a real international well known artist and she can't be taking any chances.. that could've really messed up her whole career 🤦🏽♀️
Karlie has been trying to be a musician for years (since like season 1) and it has not taken off or she gets distracted doing other stuff. When the music stuff doesn't take off she just moves on to the next thing but for Spice this is her entire world. I don't get why Karlie didn't understand Spice being upset.
I don’t understand why these women are so bitter about Joc getting married to Kendra? Especially if he did horrible things to them and plus he is apparently still cheating out here smh
Karlie is doing too much.. I love how Sina called out Joc and let him know that he should do better. Joc ain't ready to be serious with anyone.. I love how Spice is serious about her career and keeping it real with Karlie regardless of friendship.
Her just going to the bachelor party isn't because "her and joc are friends" it's because she was hoping that if Kendra found out she'd call off the wedding. That shits not cute Karlie, not cute. Omg and the look on jasmines face when her mom is talking about the alleged baby is like mom really 🤦
Karlie you extra, and if you were a real artist you would understand exactly where Spice is coming from. Spice takes pride in her work, she don’t release no half done bs.
Spice is my favourite boss lady. Karlie is madd. Everyone else operates in distorted feminine energy. Society praises these types of women(distortion) making their healing journey difficult. Respectfully ❤
karlie is just so hungry to have something to show that shes working on that she doesn't even get how that would be seen as disrespectful to a real artist.
These Hip Hop faces are looking different each season..Karlie, Sierra,.Erica don't need to do anything else to their faces. I keep forgetting I'm older than Erica and Sierra because they did such drastic work. Karlie is almost 60 and this obsession with Joc is crazy.
Tell me about it, too many calling Karlie bitter. Not saying she's without mess, but it's apparent, after how many baby mothers and side things, multiple cheating, that Joc has a certain character.
Ugh. I hate to say this but I think Rich really loves Erica and I think they’re perfect for each other. They’ve both grown and learned and I truly wish them the best.
@@AfrodityJones a thousand perfect. Their “love” is atrocious. The only thing I give Mariah is that she basically forced him to find himself because he didn’t like who he was with her.
Rich and Erica as individuals are toxic and are even MORE TOXIC in a intimate relationship, as friends it could work. Pls dont encourage toxicity. This comment is very ignorant. Just because safaree and ericas marriage was toxic doesnt mean she has to go back to another toxic person. Rich is worse than safree ,trust me.
Sina chile he doesnt need to tell you about his personal love life. He doesnt owe you anything. He is only obligated to yalls kids! Quit using the kids as an excuse to try and control Joc.
I like drama as long as I have zero part in it. These are friends you wish you had for entertainment purposes from a distance but are eternally grateful you know no such people.
