Lovers except we abuse the 200 IQ TOILET STRAT... (modded) 

Scott: Where are you, 5up? 5up: *names location* Scott: *runs to 5up's location* NEXT ROUND Scott: I'm at [insert location] 5up: Okay. Also 5up: *runs opposite direction of where Scott is*

Hafu: *yells something* Scott: "STAY DEAD" lmao, felt that

DK has the energy of someone held at gunpoint saying, "What are you going to do, shoot me?"

*Scott:* You would be _lucky_ to date me. Absolute king, this one.

5up everytime hes a lover with a European that isnt Fundy: * deep sigh * 😔

that first round lol -DK walks past 5up -Stebon walks to 5up and vanishes -DK walks past 5up again and vents -Twice

Them saying "fufufu" in complete seriousness

That’s a great way to respond to “hey qt”, “oh boy”

Can we just appreciate Ryan's sportsmanship to vote himself so the lovers will definitely win even after Hafu spoiled it

“HAFU SHUT UP. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!” 😂😂

dk: I think the assassin is too coward to... Assassin: _Instantly kill dk_ I love that LOL 😂😭

DK is the friend we all want.

The frustration and bit of piss in 5up and Scott's voices when Hafu talks was so genuine and like "stop ruin our game" I laughed a lot. OMG

I'm sorry but it's funny how Hafu always says "deafen" but then is the one to unmute and give information

Kinda upset that Hafu interrupted the final meeting on purpose. The first thing where she says "lovers win" at the start isn't her fault, meeting happened to catch it. But then she interrupted the meeting, breaking the rules, to set them straight. Hafu's the one who went on the little rant about why you need to follow the rules, just wait for the vote to be over to yell at them

The end could have been cooler if janet didnt hear hafu

There should be a role called stalker or fangirl where you are in love with one of the lovers and your job is to get the other one out. And if the person you love dies you either die or can kill people out of anger.

Hafu still trying to justify her thing even after she apologized, like pls omg. I love them all but dang. If that happened to her she would be SO upset! My God.

bro imagine if 5up pulled that on hafu lmao

All I’m saying is that if anyone did that while Hafu was about to win she’d throw the biggest fit and probably won’t invite that person to her lobbies anymore.

Honestly Hafu's outburst at the end was completely uncalled for. That was a deserved win and Hafu almost sabotaged it because Janet hadn't considered some information and the lovers weren't bringing it up to out themselves. Really uncool

for the lying thing and "a gap of information" the point of lying is for the other person to have gap in information and to exploit that and the point of the game is to deceive others with lying it's a fundamental part of the game to use that gap of information to win the game if you're not a crewmate

I’m so used to seeing titles with IQs in the quintuple digits I forgot 200 IQ is still super high

Lately I've realised that Hafu really doesn't like to admit she's wrong on something

damn wtf was going on with hafu in this one? first janet hears her say the lovers stuff and then she just talks while she's dead on final 4 what even was that?

Hafu called meeting ; "DK's just an engineer just vote him out" Also Hafu (dead) said ; "there is an out for him. You liar" In a deception game. And also DK you are allowed to vibe 😭

5up wasn't lying about anything. Tbh, Ryan has 0 win conditions and they weren't taking advantage of him. Just cuz they're getting the W she phrased it as "taking advantage" but if it was her game she'd said it was "her play". Imagine if 5up talks/treats her the way she talks/treats him? Imagine.

I was actually upset when Hafu unmuted at the end even tho she was dead.

I really like Hafu, but she frustrates me sometimes. I know it's coming from a place with good intentions, but sometimes she takes her role as Lobby Police a bit too seriously. On balance it's probably worth it, but sometimes I really wish she'd dial it back a bit.

Hafu at last meeting be like: "would someone do that? Go in meetings and tell lies?!"

Hafu gets so petty lol.

And here we are in another episode of 5up absolutely hating his life because he's lover again. Edit: It's really fun how he hates being lover with europeans (except for one) but he's so good at it tho

Haha the “hey qt”, then the “oh boy” 😭

Hafu could at least waited for votes to be in before making any input smh

I love Hafu, I watch her videos just as much as I was 5up’s but I was so salty at the end there because Janet heard her AND because she unmuted…it was just not cool

Hafu really can't help but overstep bounds and provide external influence xD

I'm just confused, because last time someone tried to help against Hafu she yelled at them to stay dead aswell xD.

For the situation at the end. There wasn't anything about the role mechanics that 5up knew and Ryan didn't. If Ryan thought about it carefully, he, like any other reasonable person, could conclude that he in fact had a win condition. It's not preying on ignorance, it's deception. Which is the point of the game. It's not really a big deal but it's happening a lot with Hafu recently and it seems like nobody in the lobby wants to say "You're wrong and here's why" to not ruin the mood. However, DK dismissing the chat calling her out as haters everytime isn't really helping the situation. Anyway, it seems like Hafu is a bit too stubborn to back down sometimes. When she's right she talks well and confidently but when she's wrong and is asked to explain herself, her tone becomes unsure and she always says "I don't know!" in a high-pitched voice and struggles to rationalize what she feels.

15:44 *5up:* "We're going for that big Lover's win rate" Little did he know he was going to get this role MULTIPLE times right after...

hafu: liar! me: 👀 that’s the point of the game? uhhh she didn’t mute herself then talking while dead? haha wow i don’t want to be annoyed since it’s just a game but c’mon? what is that play? hahaha

5up and Smajor are such an underrated duo!!

Hafu needs to choose one: Keep her mouth shut when dead until back in the lobby, OR don't ever flip out at anyone doing anything they "shouldn't". Because trying to have it both ways just makes her unlikable.

I hate to say this but hafu frustrates me in so many situations. The way she approaches among us legitimately makes me anxious LMAO she just needs to chill sometimes. Too stressful...

Kind of sucks that hafu talked over the last meeting like that. It kind of takes the shine off that win and video for 5up and Scott to have the last half of the meeting and argument between a dead hafu and 5up. They work so hard for videos and sometimes don’t get them for ages. Then 5up and Scott get one and hafu talks over the last meeting trying to coach the imposter. It’s ironic that this video came out shortly after her one where she got angry that a LIVE 5up exposed that she and dk were lovers on 5. And then she proceeded vote out 5up, who was engineer, despite her only win condition at that point being as crew.

If I was Ryan I'd be a little annoyed at Hafu infantilizing me, I hate when someone tries to treat me different rather than how they'd treat others in the group. If that makes sense. That was such a good lovers win!

At the end with Hafu saying that Ryan had a win condition, I don't think that's true. If you and scott stayed together either he kills janet and you win, or he kills one of you and you report

Hafu literally always tells people to stay dead 😬😬 she can’t do that. If he didn’t know how to win, then he didn’t

Hafu would be so salty if that happened to her lol. And then on top of that people still defend her

5up's gotten the 'Lover' role with his European harem so much that all these videos seem repetitive at this point 😂

Hafu told janet that there was lovers alive, so hafu cheated, and then complained at 5up for "lying". She was in the wrong either way there.

I agree that it is part of the game to lie about there being no way to win because they just didn’t measure all the options. They had equal opportunity to think about all possibilities but didn’t realize.

Hafu: "Can we not break the silence of the dead?" Also Hafu: 17:02

Hafu tried to ruin the game. Twice. Saying "stay dead" was the nicest thing she could have heard. It's a social deduction game that people will lie to win. If you feel strongly about what is said, hold it until the end of the game. If her problem was a knowledge deficit that she felt that needed addressing. Obvious bullshit excuse is obvious. I watch these videos not because they're fun to watch, but because people show integrity. Even within this week, you had 5Up seeing Hafu pop out of a vent because a meeting was called (obvious bug is obvious) and said nothing, because that's information he wasnt supposed to have. You had people report a bugged corpse (dead from previous round) and decided not to address it, dont speak of it, dont share information, nothing. Integrity. Not people that are dead deciding to speak about "lovers wins" on final four unmuted, or even going unmuted during the final meeting. That's just fucked up, and pissed me off more than it should. Even more knowing that since toast is not on his lobbies, he wont be the voice of reason to remind Hafu that it's just a game, take a chill pill, there's a time and place for everything, and not ruin it for everyone else. Because everyone else in that lobby is far too nice to tell her as much. And I know i'll take shit for pointing this out, but heh, I'm sure I wasnt the only one pissed that this happened.

Although i like hafu and respect her, she can be so hypocritical

5up's lover: hey bb u lookin' real cute today ;) 5up: please god no

I love how rhiga was like "join the darkside janet!! We could win!!" It was unnecessarily funny in my mind for some reason lmao

hafu at the end... ok.... 😭

i think hafu unmuting to sabotage 5up and scott during the meeting was super uncalled for because not only was ryan a confirmed impostor on 4, but he sabotaged his own win condition by killing ellum who was the only other sus person. the game was going to end with either a crew win or a lovers win, always. the only way he could have won is if the crew deliberately threw the game by skipping on 4 when they know who it is and letting him kill 2.

scott is being so wholesome, and 5up is like 'oh boy'

i like how dk nonchalantly calling out hafu at the end

Hafu is just always envy of 5up's win

I probably shouldn't make a big deal out of this, but wtf was with Hafu this game? Although I can sort of see where she's coming from, her reasoning is just wrong. In addition to that, her trying to influence the meeting while dead is hypocritical to what she's been telling everybody else. In social deduction games like this, it is a given that people will "prey on ignorance" or use "gaps of information" to their advantage. 5up didnt lie about mechanics of roles, so he wasn't in any wrong. If other people can't identify if their win condition is still achievable, then that will and should be used against them.

Every time I see when Hafu interrupt in end meeting I want to cry. So much pain

Hafu was just butthurt at the end because she almost spoiled the game by allowing janet to overhear her say that the lovers won

Hafu basically throwing that game at the end when she is dead is so hypocritical

Hafu doesn't mute so often lol. I feel like I see her give it away so frequently.

5up and Smajor go like cotton candy lmao

Every time I start warming up to hafu she does something else to annoy me

“Deafen!” -person who talks when dead

Hafu needs to just relax lmao

HAFU WHAT? Ryan didn't have a win condition! Janet had one not Ryan! Why unmute for that?

Hafu the deafen queen won't shut up when it counts

Hafu really was trying to sabotage their game

I love Hafu but god dang dude revealing 2 roles and trying to influence the meeting when she was dead doesn't sit well with me. She almost ruined the game by both revealing roles and then trying to teach Janet to win when she was dead. Ignoring that Janet wouldn't even know Scott and 5up were Lovers without her saying when Hafu was dead already. Not cool.

When the lover has Monika hair 😳 J U S T S M A J O R

Everytime I see the phrase "Hey qt" it slowly breaks offa braincell of mine in both a good and bad way

Hafu speaks unmuted then has the audacity to chime in again lol

I agree with 5up at the end. Yes, it was an information gap like hafu said. But it was more of a puzzle than a lack of information. He had all the puzzle pieces, he just didn't put the puzzle together

Hafu tried REALLY hard to make lovers lose 🤣

Good job 5up by not cutting out the conversation after game and exposing Hafu's hypocrisy.

So first Hafu spoils the fact that there were 2 lovers left, then she gets salty about the win? Honestly, I get such bad vibes when she pulls this stuff off, simply cause if the roles were reversed she'd be so pissed. She's done this before to Toast, and it's not nice.

Hafu telling everyone to deafen constantly but can talk and ruin the game when she wants.

I think I'm starting to see why Hafu is at odds with other prolific Among Us players like Wolfabelle and, I gotta say, can't really blame them.

Hafu was right that Ryan does still have a win condition but in this context it doesn't apply. Janet, 5up, and Scott already pretty much know that it's him so regardless of the "out" that Ryan could have, the phrase "there's no out for you" (meaning he's already been found out) isn't used in the same context as Hafu was complaining about. It's like saying to your friend "You're crazy!" Then in comes this medical personnel or whatever that teaches you the definition of what "crazy" actually means when it comes to Medical field when the phrase isn't really used in that context

Yeah, Hafu shouldn't have said anything when she was already dead

Since 5up mentioned "Masons"(role in One Night Werewolf basically Lovers) I hope they add more roles from it. Specifically a Troublemaker role. This is how I think it would play: - During a meeting the Troublemaker can choose to players(can't pick yourself) to swap their roles - There is no visual for this unlike Swapper. It won't show the other players whose roles changed only Troublemaker knows who swapped with who - Troublemaker doesn't know the roles of the people they swap - When the meeting ends the two players effected will either just casually have their role be different or a visual will tell them their new role for a sec or 2 I think Troublemaker would be a fun role with lots of betrayal. Add in Assassin, and it makes it hard for an Impostor who gets swapped because the new Impostor could Assassin the old one.

Lack of information is 100% a valid strategy. Its not like they were lying about how a role worked, the entire game is about outsmarting other people. Trying to make them think its impossible for them to win from something its perfectly within the rules of the game.

When they were denying each other, it was giving me the vibes of like two friends who like each other but are denying that are to one of their other friends.

Imagine being called out for lying - BY A DEAD PLAYER - in her own lobby - in a game about lying.

i love that his outro picture has not changed at all since he started

hafu: i can't believed you lied in a lying game, thats so mean lol (no hate)

Someone needs to remind hafu that the dead can't talk, smh

5up didn't lie he bluffed. It's the same idea of tricking an impostor into thinking they are caught and confessing. Ryan didn't have give up but 5up and scott had to convince him to

OMG, can't stand Hafu!!!! When 5 said that Hafu is lover, she went crazy, but when Hafu said out loud DK's role.... It's just ok. Fuck.

Yeah I don't think that like hafu shoulda jumped in. If you lie about mechanics then yeah, but stepping in to give someone strategy advice is pretty lame.

hafu is always saying deafen and telling everyone to deafen every round. and then she unmutes and completely ruins the surprise factor and could’ve blown the game if ryan didn’t vote himself

I feel like the issue with the case he argued around 9:00 is that the Lovers win is already more prioritized (for both crew and imposter) because it's more difficult. Whereas if you're a Loving Imposter where somehow the Imposter win is designed to be more desired/favorable, your crewmate Lover is just a free kill and the Lovers role doesn't impact gameplay that much.

The amount of times hafu tries to ruin the game for people at the end is staggering. It’s usually 5up that it happens to as well.. what is her problem??

I'm honestly watching these videos less because it frustrates me when Hafu has outbursts like that which kinda spoil a well deserved moment, or when she's constantly calling deafen but obviously can't seem to manage to do it herself. I used to enjoy her energy, but as of late it feels angry and hostile, and I'm honestly not a fan of it. It kinda sucks, cause I love your videos 5up. I just hope whatever is going on with her lightens up and she lets people enjoy themselves in games. I hope her undeserved outburst didn't ruin the fun too much.

I think there should be a chance that it’s just a vanilla game, but no one knows. So you have people realizing like halfway through why things happened a certain way because it’s vanilla. To like keep things fresh with the occasional simple crew vs imposter.