Fun fact: While no one's Ruthlessness animatic has the Laestrygonians, they are the deep voices echoing Poseidon in the chorus, we didn't know this until one of the saga debut streams in Jorge's lyric and narration subtitles
To add to the fun facts when Poseidon tells him " I'm your darkest moment" He actually was repeating what Odysseus actually told the cyclops in the end of the "Remember Them" song
So just to be clear, when people talk about the gods having the choirs and summoning voices, there are two types of choirs. The synthetic choirs made on a keyboard are just instrumental. But if a choir or anyone not present is singing lyrics those are summoned by a non mortal. Hope this helps really loving the reaction so far.
Just to add a bit to the Ruthlessness reaction: If you look closely at the lyrics, Poseidon wasn't saying he "wronged children" per se, it was the opposite actually... ...The whole song, Poseidon was basically saying "Why didn't you just kill my son? I wouldn't even need to be here had you just killed him just like you offed that baby earlier" after all --> Ruthlessness is MERCY upon OURSELVES. So by being merciless to others, he's showing mercy to himself and his crew. Edit: I just wanted to explain the lyrics a bit cause, this song in particular, is hard to catch the message conveyed in a first listen.
Hello! In the musical, mortals can have a "choir" but only through other mortals (the crew for example) While the Gods can summon their own choir out of thin air.
So this is VERY nitpicky, but it doesn't have to be other mortals for a mortal's "choir" - prime example being the backing vocals during Warrior of the Mind when Ody tells Athena he knows who she is, where Athena is the source of his backing vocals (I assume because she likes his enthusiasm)
It’s actually kind of funny when people draw or think he’s upset that his son is hurt. Not Gigi or Anniflama’s, though. They draw him like “You made _me_ come _all the way over here._ Come on. You know how long the commute is?? Time for you to pay with bloodshed, I guess.”
The crew is a bit different from the usual choir, if people are present then the choir is not necessarily divine but the gods are the only ones who can summon a choir without other people being present. But the crew specifically also serve as Eurylochus' instrument.
What a coincidence I was just watching your reaction to the Cyclops saga when I see this on the sidebar and see that it released 30 minutes ago. Just in time for a final video before bed.
So in terms of choirs, non-diegetic choirs are associated with gods. However, diegetic choirs, like the crew, are very human. And Eurolychus’ instrument is actually the crew. Otherwise, he adapts to the situation or other people. But the crew’s voices are consistently his “instrument”. Hope that helps! :)
Did you like anniflamma’s ruthlessness it’s my favorite cause it also leans into Poseidon god of tides creator of horses and it makes Poseidon seem more like an insurmountable threat more than just an angry force or nature check out Gigi’s too it’s good too I just prefer anni’s
Same. Love them both. They both have their moments to me, but that horse’s teeth, man. And seeing the closeup faces of the people drowning makes it so much more personal. Gigi’s is good if you watch her KYFC first because you know the wind bag’s design and Aeolus. Anni’s is good even as a stand alone. It doesn’t really matter which artist’s version you saw before it. (unless it was Gigi’s, then you’d be lost to the plot). 😂
My personal favorite is tamatama's Ruthlesness, but in Anniflamma's one I absolutely love the part with the destruction of the fleet, the frantic, desperate feeling of it, and the viewer seeing things basically from the perspective of a slowly drowning crewmember. It's chilling!
Same but my personal favorite is Neal Illustrator's Ruthlessness, the crew is moving around and doing stuff to stay alive unlike in some where they are just in the background. Also, the amount of water horses is great.
I've said it before, but your face is so expressive. Also where are you from I really can't place the accent you have, unless you've traveled and would explain why I can't place it, also are you a natural red head? Sorry I'm a ginger and just curious Edit: sorry for all the questions I just love the reactions you put out on this
haha it’s fine! My mom is an immigrant from Holland so there’s a bit of that, I was born in Ontario so you probably hear some Canadian, then I grew up in Montana and live in Pennsylvania now, so my accent is probably a weird mishmash of all those places. I was a redhead as a kid but I think my hair is pretty much brown now! But it might have red undertones, who knows?
Diagetic choirs are mortal, non-diagetic choirs and gods. Diagetic basically means that it's physically created by something in the scene. So choirs by mortals must be done by other mortals present, so the crew is Ody's choir. While the gods have choirs of people who do not actually exist. :)
Can't. Most people just aren't allowed to post reaction videos to the Livestream version after it's already aired. Mortius has special permission, iirc.
@kyratries reactions to fan animatics are fine. And honestly there are amazing ones for both sagas. But yeah if you wish to watch the livestreams on your own time. I Def recommend them because you also get to see the creator in the corner reacting along with you. 😂
Fun Fact, the gods/goddesses/higher beings have a more electronic instruments compared to the humans, like Odysseus, Eurylochus, Penelope etc. who have real instruments.
It's worth remembering that in ancient Greece mercy was not considered a virtue. The gods demanded total victory in battle (ie destroy them utterly) and to 'spare' a defeated enemy was an insult to them, not a mercy. As such P-daddy is actually mad that Odysseus didn't kill his son, because maiming him and letting him live would have been considered MUCH worse. That and when he asks Ody to appologize he instead tries to justify (which is hubris). There is some debate whether it would have mattered but i suspect Wet Hades would have killed ONLY Ody if he begged for mercy and spared his men. By instead insulting the god by trying to justify what he did instead of begging for mercy he earned the full 'kill all your friends then you' treatment.
Commenting again to say I've finished updating the wisdom saga animatics - the last one is the mash up of canon animations from the livestream because it's just too good not to be! So you're good to go through up to date now. Also I was rewatching some of your older analysis vids on Stolas and Blitzø and so on, and I'd love to see your take on a deep dive into Fizz sometime!
I don't recall if music makes you cry easily. But I've noticed you are weepy in general . I recommend boxes of tissues as you continue. I'm mildly surprised you held it together for the end of Ruthlessness 😅 just trying to help
I can't wait for you to get to the next saga. In the last video you said you like strings, huh? Well no one has better strings then the puppeteer herself
I wish I could say I enjoyed this reaction, but by the 7th comment in a row about "so modern" I just desperately wanted you to move on to some new topic
Alot of the songs have a modern tone in order to grasp a more modern audience. So those who usually don't like musicals can like this song and follow along easier. Plus, Jorge mentions this is a new modern retelling of the Odyssey. So makes sense to have a modern feel to the music to prove it's a new version of telling the story.
Something a lot of people forget is before all this happened, Ody took his First Mate down to the Cabin and was like, "I need you to trust me and I need you not to question me or to sew doubt in the men." Meanwhile, he did nothing to stop who ever did it from sneaking up and stealing the bag.
I feel like he was saying more, “Don’t doubt me in front of the men. We’ll die if people start doubting each other.” Eurylochus had shown clear signs of distrust, and that’s why Ody didn’t trust him with the bag. If Eurylochus hadn’t said those things in front of their crew, I think Odysseus would’ve trusted him more.
@@icemagiciangh Agree that is the reason Odysseus doesn't let Eurylochus take the second shift of guarding the bag. But I also kind of think that if he had followed the wind god's advice of "keeping your enemies closer", given Eurylochus that trust, even if he didn't deserve it, that it would have made Eurylochus feel responsible to keep the bag closed and honored Odysseus trust.
