There's a big difference between "trolling" and someone who isn't very experienced with the game or position and make mistakes, it's called "making mistakes"... But I suppose people these days are always victims so Ya they're just doing it on purpose.
That and LoL players have no middle ground in either play or language. When the tame comments go from "bruh" to "inting noob" and everything else is "x dif", "trolling/inting", to the profane and incendiary... that and the victim blaming attitude of "ur just soft" so anyone can call you what they want. Nope. It's called common decency in a public forum. Mistakes happen, no need to point and laugh and mock your own teammates like a 7yo bully. But w/e, that's the community and nothing short of Rito helping clean it up will fix it.
@@Undomaranel I mean it's a game online. Anonymity given to most in any way in any time period will act exactly the same. I don't participate in even interacting with randoms in leauge on either side of this weird fence and I'm firmly telling both parties to suck it up. There are no "victims". I actually have more respect for the "trolls" than I ever will from someone so stuck up and spoiled that they believe some kids in a game on a text chat constitutes "harassment". Individuals like that are noticed only pathetically sad but honestly a rental probably long for this-and-that worlds bring that weak and shallow. I feel no pity towards anyone who actively pursues a life of being a coward or a sympathy vampire
@@RoomerJ I feel like I'm having a dumb moment, but I feel your reply just basically proved Undomaranel's point. maybe you're definition of trolling and harassment is different from what they are talking about. because you sound like the person who doesn't care. when in reality, if ppl constantly get annoying pings, the constant negative talking (like it's so rare seeing someone just neutral, not even nice, just neutral), and the assumption that any mistake is on purpose, they will feel annoyed. this is why there is no improvement in this game. ppl there's always someone to say suck it up. so when we suck it up, we are silent and the raging toxicity is left to fester even more.
@@ggundercover3681 There isn't any other definitions of harassment. Harassment is not pings and some random stranger saying you're bad at a game in some chat. That's not harassment, at most that's a mild annoyance and even calling it that is a stretch considering you can mute or just not look at the chat. There's not even anything to "suck up". If anyone considers that "toxic" behavior then they just haven't lived long enough to know what actual harassment is and should suck it up.
I'm astonished by the fact that these people are holding onto their trinkets. If anything, I'm guilty of instawarding whenever trinket's up, which is arguably a whole other problem.
Yeah I have that issue as well, dropping 3 trinkets and control ward around objectives in 10 seconds to find the team thinks ignoring the objective for the next 2 minutes is the best plan
I always save 1 ward for popping in a bush if we engage and they try to drop autos, or when I think we are being engaged on to spy if there’s anyone there. Good habit to get into
10:05 “ ... who saw, on a ward, that the enemy jungler, a potent level 3 ganker, was starting topside and therefore very likely pathing bottom.“ Me: Bold of you to assume he saw Vi in the first place LOL
@@scottgill2643 this is rather true and why I don't main enchanters as supp anymore. Most adcs don't know how to play with an enchanter or just can't use the utility it gives. Just picking swain or other mages adds damage and cc allowing you to actually do something if your adc is a potato and you need to step up to fill that role.
If youre low elo that mains a lane role, I think it's incredibly useful to practice jungle. Understanding jg pathing and timing, especially in the early game, is very helpful in understanding ideal wave management and vision control
Agree. Its really helpful unless enemu jgler is doing really random shenanigans in the jg. Like completely random shits, then its just gg play on instinct XD
I think this is true for everything in LoL. You need to play it yourself to understand it. I have a much easier time playing against champs that I play myself.
@@slayzet4293 That might make it easier for you, actually Cuz i remember a game where an amumu seemed to be all over the place cuz their pathing was trash and, because of this, they were underleveled too Needless to say, it was a free win
RU-vidrs always have a completely wrong impression of what „low elo“ is. Platinum is not low Elo.Less than 15% make it into Platinum or higher. The majority of the player base is in Silver or below, making silver mid-Elo. Bronze and Iron are true low Elo. Calling everything low Elo is exactly why people get frustrated with being stuck in their rank. If you’re in silver, you’re an average player and that’s ok. Not everyone can be above average especially when you haven’t been playing 8h a day since season 2.
@@alexandrepambianchi451 but it is low elo. it isn't measured with percent. if you don't have ambition to go to high elo that's totally alright but if you have time to watch videos on youtube to improve, you can't really make an argument about time.
@@gremphilurd5743 If we talk purely on stats, it's not low elo. Watching a video on YT doesnt take a lot of Time, not like 3 games of LOL. So yes, when you work, study, have a social life, it is quite impossible to reach what you call high elo.
@@Morganaplays if it supports the champ then yes. If you scale with ap dont build it. Just take oracle. You should be taking Oracle regardless as soon as you get sightstone.
Well its better for the support to go ward especially if it's a tank sup cuz incase the enemy jungle or mid is there waiting it's better for the support to die or even make it out alive
Low Elo literally doesn't buy control wards and as a support main as trying to climb it's hard to be only one that wants vision control and buys control wards as much as possible
How to play support: Is my lane partner walking up when the 9th minion is close to dying? Yes? Then wait for 1000 gold (mobi boots) to become a jungler. No? Become a jungler right away.
Ca. 65% of players are silver or lower. Silver is literally mid-Elo. His definition of “low Elo” starts in top silver, which is already above average. Calling Platinum “low Elo” when less than 15% of players are in Platinum or higher is just complete nonsense, unless your ambition is to become a pro, but most people have a life besides LoL and that’s a good thing.
I used to consider Gold Rank high elo and plat and diamond god level... but honestly Gold players just cry if their one trick gets banned and flame the jungler the rest of the game. They are to be comsidered as average players, gold I maybe as above average but thats it.
@@KevinementD It also all depends on what server you play on. Typically, the more players there is on any given server, the more players there are in "lower" elo, and the more difficult it becomes to climb ranks
@@KevinementD nah it doesnt matter what rank most people are, if you are plat, youre shit at the game...ask any challenger player they will say that mid elo goes from dia 4 to dia 2 ish, maybe 1
Your videos seem to assume that as a support main the players you are with will actually pay attention to the vision you place and act on it. Most of the time getting a low elo adc to even realize there is vision is more difficult than knowing when to place it.
@@MarxyBasement For macro watch videos and for teamfights watch your replays to see where you messed up. Most important thing for macro is to think actively and have a goal in mind e.g. drake 1 min so you want to get vision.
Can you do the support times. There are the: Inting Support, the Support that thinks they know eveeything (control freak), the true support whos inside your head and knows exactly what you want to do; regardless if you should do it. Etc
This was really helpful, especially the part that explains what areas to deny vision and what areas ideal for having vision around objectives. Also, I think Riot should add a change where once your support item gets 500 gold quest and you recall, it switches your trinket automatically to sweeper. I sometimes forget to change it and it's so annoying having to take an awkward recall or walking back to change it.
you should practice the sweeper part. sometimes you want to have farsight or even yellow instead, so having the consciousness of when to change or not is essential 👌
@@casbb I have never taken farsight on support. Could possibly be useful in cases where it's risky to actually go and ward an area where you need immediate vision. But yellow wards just aren't worth because you have a 3 ward limit anyway
@@armughanaslam sticking to yelloe very far from optimal but could still fit some scenarios like if you want to contest vision and you know your first few wards would be denied and both the jg and mid already have Oracles. My point is it's better to be conscious on trinket switching rather than relying on automatic function.
Maybe I'm just having trouble with the math here, if you happen to be in the top 10% of players (Platinum), you're better than 80% of players and there are ALOT of people who play this game, therefore, you would not be low elo. There are also 4 elos under you and 4 above you, it would be mid elo if anything. But this toxic ass community seems to think that unless you're going to LCS you shouldn't be proud of your skill and accomplishments
I hear you mate. Max I ever reached has been Plat. Point is they're talking about the things that divide low and high. I understand that as a support, though let's say that you might think that you're not expected to be a monster at mechanical skills (it's just an example), since there's so much else to pay attention to, although sometimes, despite being somewhat good at map awareness, predictions, warding (highly related to map awareness/memory) - which surely would make you a kind of bright lone soul when compared to other equal-ranked supps - you lack that mechanical side, which means, you somewhat get when a skill's been used, but it's still hard for you (and for sure it is, loads of info at the same time) to react properly, whether defensively or pro-actively knowing your own and theirs limits. I had the opportunity to play as a sup with a very, very high elo friendly adc once - I was like "Please, forgive me if I make mistakes...", and he, like, "chill babey, we've already won". Still he added me (for a limited time), made me watch the match again and pointed out a few things I was missing and/or needed to improve, including lack of mechanical skills on my own champ (which I thought I was already good enough at.. haha) - which I kindly and thankfully accepted, I mean, so much constructive info that really mattered! And I noticed that, while sups love complaing about their tunnelvisioned-ish (low-elo!) ADCs - IMO it's a fair complaint, - I've been left with the impression that as the elo goes higher, awareness tends to be more or less equalized among the team (at least it should, right?), as he, on the other hand, had such a vision amplitude that compared to him, I felt like I was somewhat blind (or dumb?) I would say that, jsut doing what the others at you level do isn't ever enough, you must be better than them, same way you were (I know high pro stuff never prizes anyone for it, but hey, it's still at least something) able to climb up to gold or plat, for instance. Maybe you won't skyrocket and cross the next threshold instantly, but I'm pretty that if you keep up at it, sooner or later "low elo" will be but a memory. Another thing I'd like to word here (sorry for such wall of text) is that sometimes, we (I at least?) feel bullied when some top players play or watch our matches and comment that that or this one is trolling and stuff, as on our side we're like "Frak that, I'm not trolling, I'm trying my best, maybe I'm jsut not that good? But... ... ..." Point is that once you've crossed a threshold, there's no way to go back to the previous state, there are many facts you now are aware of, and it may be even impossible to ignore them. As an exemple, even Silvers laugh when watching Iron matches and that frak-a-ton misuse of flash. Think about it. ;) Ps. Btw, I'm aware that chances are what I typed above is already common knowledge to you, but who knows whether any other soul passes by and it adds up something for them? :)
skill capped content is literally how to be a good player the amount of skill i learn from those videos is making me feel like a smurf in most of my games
That Blitz clip is not Blitz's fault. He goaded a flash out of Jhin, his work was done. Twitch was on the verge of tower-diving the Jhin that was clearly going to live.
Here is a tip I learned: if you try to hit one ward per minute at the end of game (at least) your vision control will greatly increase in early/mid and late game even when behind ;)
As someone who just started playing recently and pretty sure about maining support, I really appreciate the format of these. By asking questions, you make me analyze and think about things I wouldn’t otherwise. I’ve still got a long way to go, but this helps me get into the mindset easier. Hopefully, I eventually can be competent 😅 so thank you!
haha same, I started playing LoL a few months ago (I came for TFT but oh well), and I like playing with my friends. I honestly just want to get better so my team can have a fun time with me! Kinda funny when they call me "bad" like, "I know I am, I am trying to figure this out too!"
"Trying to figure out" isnt that easy as it sounds. When you're alone playing and does not know all the champs that can be your opponents... it's easy to sit and watch the videos, but when it does not turn out the way you want, you're confused about "Why the heck did we loose?? Where was the mistake? Was it me?"
I mean you can take flay and hook level1 Hook is mostly good against ranged supports where youd take too much damage if you just walked up and flayed and flay is much better in melee vs melee matchups because you do more damage with your passive auto, its easier to land for aftershock and you can disengage the enemies off your adc. I recommend flay against alistar. Low elo supports will walk up for their support item stacks even if they lose the level1 hard so you can e him and slap him back under tower because he cant do shit to you.
@@christhis9597 I think if you are a good thresh player it is a rate of 60/40 between Q and E . but if you are an autofill b*tch just pls go and take E (because you gonna miss Q anyway ) :D
It pains me when supports are so wasteful with their mana and abilities. I feel the average skill of support mains in lower elos is a lot lower than other lanes. If they played the way they did in a solo lane (trigger fingering/missing important cc, wasting mana, taking horrible trades) they'd be in a lower rank, for sure.
No, not really, I think it's better to say support players, support mains on the other hand are a lot better than autofilled supports. Also you seem to make it seem like support players have it easy, they do not, even in lower elos supports, imo as a mid main, have it harder than both adc and top. The macro knowledge is so much more, and while they may not be great mechanically, it's not that punishing. I see a lot of sololaners that don't have the macro sense of supports and if they were put in the support role they would also be a lot lower elo, it goes both ways.
Yaa the average skill (micro) for supports is usually lower but the (macro) is usually higher it’s a trade off. Support is not less than any other role in any elo in the bigger picture
This video wasnt inforitive for me as a support main. But then again cant talk about why adc's cant ward the third bush in lane for deep TP from our top laners to help while we warding river!
The twitch at the start was hard trolling, not blitz. The blitz almost got pulled under tower while the twitch was trying to 1 v 2 with 100 hp under said tower. Blitz made the right call to back off, Twitch on the other hand...
Yeah, when I see my ADC has death wish I just let them die. I can sacrifice for competent teammate but not for autoattacking greedy noob who has no idea how to play his role...
the problem with these guides is simple. much of the suggested play is based on what intelligent and calculated players would do. "if this happens that means they're about to do this". this simply cannot be relied on in an actual game. it just doesn't happen like that. people do crazy shit in random ques across mostly all the ranks so these strats are theory crafting at best.
My supports tend to be really passive...they usually don't hit minions even when they have the execute trinket, they rarely poke and they sure as hell do not zone the enemy.
Most supports think that the support gameplay is only to buff/save the ADC. They don't know warding/dewarding, harassing, helping to clear the wave, roaming until high Dia.
It's much better to keep execute stack for cannon minion, both in terms of gold/quest efficiency and lane management making shove/countering show. Unless You are pushing lane, support should use execute as a last hit tool. Also almost never should a stack be used it on ranged minion.
For any of u adc mains out there, would you consider this trolling? - Support killing minions when they are under your tower and you are either dead or have recalled (note u wont mange to get down there before they are all dead). Secondly would this count as trolling, you attack minions when you are there but not killing them, just lowering them enough for you to auto them off? The reason im asking this is when im not playing with my friends many complain to me cuz i do these 2 stuff when im support and that i shouldnt. I understand stealing minions is trolling but im not sometimes i even get comment on cuz i have 2 cs or 10 cs which i got when i was fighting the other champs.
If nobody else can get a minion, sure go for it - especially in that "under turret"case. Attacking minions with Your ADC on lane is more problematic as better players can manage lane CSing on their own while You are destroying lane balance. There are only few specific situations when You want to help Your ADC in this: 1. After You get gank/kill/force enemies to recall. Then try to push as fast as You can to the enemy turret to deny exp/gold from them. 2. When Your champion has skill that can benefit from auto-attacks on minions (very rare case on support champions). 2. When You are getting pushed and there is Dragon spawning soon/already alive - You want to push a bit to help cover Your jungler if need be and create vision behind the pit for reasons stated in the guide above.
Thanks for the tips! I used all of the advice about warding and got a vision score of 56 in a 30 minute game. Definitely helped me improve my vision game significantly!
what if as a sp, the jg keeps running mid to bullly my mid, should i stay on my lane?(bot), or should i stay around bot river to see if i could help?, for early game
1) think about the adc, can it stand alone and not get punished bcz u aren't there? 2) if u go: can u stop the bully ir u'll go to die too? 3) is the mid the win condition?
Hurts to see these support players do things as simple as misplay in positioning & ward management, meanwhile I've been on a 5 game loss streak just because jungle fails their 1st ganks in top/mid and proceeds to RQ/troll the rest of the match. Gold 3, if anyone cares for point of reference.
@@dizzyheads Nah, there's definitely a difference, otherwise I would be stuck in there every season reset when it throws me back down from gold 2 to bronze 1 If you said silver I would have agreed :D
I have come to peace with the fact that I'm too stupid to ever be good at this game. Or, more accurately, too stupid to ever not be utterly abysmal. Plus I'm old and doddery. That doesn't help.
@HEIL PEPE Hmm, nah, I think I'll keep playing ranked. And if the community doesn't like it, they can maybe question why they're being matched with someone ranked Bronze IV. Plus I'm not really likely to take a Nazi sympathiser's thoughts on community all that seriously.
I'm low gold and sweep like the blitz. Walking into somewhere with no vision at least he knew the enemy had no vision of him. Yes it isn't efficient, but its not like his teammates had placed vision basic vision.
The problem with telling people to think is just that... they don’t think. Those very same people you’re telling to think and get better, they’re the ones NOT watching this videos. The ones that watch, already should have a common sense of knowledge about these things.
okay...i have a question. i am very new to the game and i like to play nami, obviously all her abilities depend on mana. i was playing today with a jinx and my mana was really low (early game) so i couldn’t really use my abilities without waiting a long time in between so i pinged my low mana and returned to fountain to recharge and get an item while i was at it. while i’m there the jinx dies and i apologise saying i needed to recharge my mana. the jinx just said no you didn’t and spent the rest of the game nitpicking all my mistakes, calling me a baby, and telling me to just listen cuz i clearly can’t think for myself. i prolly got a bit overly frustrated by this and wasn’t playing my best... but it made me wonder... is recharging mana a bad thing? i guess i coulda just sat there trying to wait for it to recharge and just healing jinx whenever i could... but it felt like it wouldn’t be getting much value out of my abilities without being able to cast more than one ability every 30 seconds or so and thus getting no combos or putting us both at risk. i’m guessing i did the wrong thing but what should i have done instead?
sometimes threatening to use abilities, using more auto attacks to poke and being wiser when using abilities makes mana way more efficient. so, you just gotta use it better. going base is most strategic in getting wards and your itens
also, you gotta see which nami abilities are good in lane phase, that depends on your build and the whole composition of the game but there's a bunch of complete builds that teach you which abilities to use more and how
Don't really agree with the lvl 2 advantage because as support you cant do anything with a lvl 2 advantage if your adc doesnt help and that happens 90% of the time. However i do walk up and ping my adc to engage but if he doesnt respond and keeps farming i just retreat behind my minions or in brush
yea that twitch and blitz clip blitz made no mistake he backed off when his cooldowns were down and the jhin he hooks flashed away also after hooking jhin twitch auto'd swain for some random reason then proceeded to walk ina a 2v2 chasing after the jhin that flashed away who he wasnt focusing in the first place... thats more twitch making a lot of mistakes than blitz maybe not the best clip to bring your point across
If league was a game about playing perfectly at all times that would've been a bad clip to show, but that's not what league is about, especially at low elo. A big part of the game is anticipating when your teammates (or the enemy) are about to do something stupid, and following up on that to take advantage of the situation. If blitz tanks a few shots there, he and twitch could kite out the swain and probably get a kill on swain's overchase, but instead the blitz was probably thinking what you were 'god my adc is such a piece of shit' and leaving him to get 1-for-0'd.
@@dashy90210 Yeah, but this ADC was piece of shit. Even if Blitz body blocked for ADC there is guarantee that Twitch wouldn't suicide right away seeing his trash plays...
Good guide, these are the "invisible" things that make you have higher winrate than the others. 12:00 That's a good warding place even if your adc thinks othervise.
Cait wouldve died anyway doesnt really matter there, caitlyn was commited to pushing those minions in. That ward wouldnt have saved her, the furthest she wouldve gotten before dying would be the 1st brush of bot. That ward is good from preventing sneaky ganks with blast cone/river ganks. Doesnt do much if youre pushed that far, you would need atleast a tribush ward, deep ward or just be more aware on where to stop greeding for the wave. Regardless, if Im not mistaken janna was trying to freeze the wave thats why caitlyn was keeping in on the aggression to not loose even without getting ganked.
This is actually super helpful I like how you give us the opportunity to try and come up with the correct decisions opposed to just telling us how things are supposed to done helps understand the ‘why’ part of why you’re making those decisions
It hurts me to see this but tbh most of those players are probably autofilled and have no idea what should they actually do, and that lulu polymorph was so bad lol i mean i that situation just try to slow with q and when he gets in range to do dmg then u cc him
As an ADC in silver, the absolute most frustrating thing is when the supp aa's the wave when you want to freeze/slow push. Or doesn't when you want to hard shove them under tower.
Let's say that i want to start ranking, the main reason why is teamates, for example i had a match where i was thresh support and my adc didn't know to farm, how should i improve when my adc is rushing them with 2/8 and 53 cs on enemy adc with 7/2 with 100 cs, as a support i have to go with defensive stats for teamates and helping them when needed and placing vision, i've got this problem everytime when playing ranked as a support, if im solo in a lane, like top, i can push freeze, zone and ward when i feel is needed and help when is require, or when to split push, i can't do that as a support when my adc is doing bad things
@@jerymarika I play pyke as well, morgana, yummy and one more, but i forgot that champ, anyway, meanwhile i started playing ranked and i had succes as top player
What is advice for ADCs dealing with supports like this???! 0_o* I feel like I get these supports every time I play adc. Many games I end up having to be alone in lane vs a difficult comp before lvl 6 even though my supp decided to feed like crazy. I hold my own great sometimes and even get farm, with no jungle presence from my team even when I ask; then when I get ganked by 3 v1 or 4 v 1 I get yelled at. -_- Makes me extra sad as support though. I sometimes have done one of these bad things and that's because I forget stuff about some of the rarely played champs (out of the 100s)...but then I fix myself in-game. I have a self-competition about placing wards (without doing so at the expense of the team)...I beat other supports and team members by A LOT 90% of the time or more. Yet I'm stuck in low ELO, I can't play many games regularly and so don't have a team. I have to rely on total strangers to cooperate and listen to me. It bites. Even statistically (based on what is provided for role) I have many skills at diamond and supposedly even challenger level yet somehow I get stuck in bronze LOL I'm just pointing out that levels don't mean as much as people try to say...I have a silver friend whose top champ/role stats say bronze level....Grrr.
Not me watching this because I got yelled at for killing one minion with my K/DA All Out Seraphine skin I immediately bought when I started playing because I love K/DA and my duo saying I’m trolling. 😭
I may sound like an idiot, but I don‘t care. I love being support but I have one question? If supports are there to giveout more vision around the whole map - so jungle included - what is the junglers job? Just ... clearing it? Seems kinda unfair if you ask me. So supp is supposed to help the adc, giveout vision not only on lane but also on drake and such and all other „lanes“ if I can call it as that are just supposed to „push“ to destroy the nexus? It‘s like - Supp? Ye you gotta heal us, give us vision, and helpout on other lanes if they need such help, since the jungler can‘t split himself into 3 lanes? So basically supp is like being a god (but you always get of course an erruption of hate from the whole team if you make one mistake) I watch all this to get better but I sometimes feel like it‘s just the whole map being rested on supp‘s shoulder. Btw, please don‘t send death threats? I just started playing PVP cause this whole community‘s toxic and I‘m too afraid sometimes to even play PVP.
Like, I am sure this vid gets better but at 1:35 when Thresh and Caitlyn are pushed to second tower, Thresh does make the mistake of engaging enemy minions before they clash with allied minions because minions agro on him and follow to wall. Now he is surrounded by minions, but then Cait then stands in minions too even though she is long range. Not only that. She positions pretty much right behind Thresh, who is surrounded with enemy minions in front, allied minions on side, wall on other side, and ADC right behind him. I don't know if cait had anyways but someone should have ward somewhere around cruggs, and cait could have stagger stepped from where Thresh was, auto enemy champ once pulled enemy minions to middle of lane, drop at least one trap where Thresh was standing, and give him one ping and they could have repositioned. As badly as Thresh played there, Cait played just as bad if not worse. In my personal experience, low elo ADCs think bot lane is a farm lane where they stand in the middle of lane and support will fix all their mistakes. Not that supps don't make mistakes, but silver and lower dont know how to position. Legit told a friend that the other day. "Anyone can play adc. You just need to stand in the right spot." Aka, if adc stands in bush on top of Senna as she autos for sickle, you are just baiting your Senna and shouldn't play ranked anymore. Specially if you are lurking in a bush as an Ez and you have reliable getaway. Idk. Call me salty. But this was a lame recommendation on RU-vid's part for a first of your videos. I will have to check the others out. But I will finish this first.
Ok, so Gold/plat is low elo? Im gold 3 and 80% of what was mentioned in this video I do naturally.. no thought process for it at all(like breathing). You have a very poor idea of what low elo actually is. Maybe in season 3 this is valid but not today!
I have a video discussing how Alicopter (if you wouldn't know former support main) plays you can watch the video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r4XMHBgyEHU.html
Did you watch that thresh do half both their health and ashe just auto farms like a bot. 10/10 that's how supporting goes. Never assume your adc will ever attack anything. It's just you. You are the one who does all the damage, gets the enemies off the wave, control the wave that your adc will auto hit till its at their tower 100% of the time. Then when you're almost dead they will jump in and wonder why you aren't going in with your 20% hp
Right now I've listened to about 10 guide videos in a row across various youtubers and literally nobody gives tips on lategame supporting. Everything is about laning phase or roaming or vision in early to midgame. For me personally biggest problems start after laning phase and especially lategame as thats where the game feels like a flip. Would be nice if some expert made guides on that
If you're a melee support, be ready to get ass blasted and not being able to lane by Senna, Lux, Thresh and Lulu. There is no way to beat these supports unless you get jungle help or have mechanical skill advantage. I am happy leaving lane with no more than 1 death at 14 minutes (mid game).
Punishing on level 2 is dumb in low Elo because most likely only one of you know about level 2 power spike I used to try doing it all the time but I'd have my ADC not trying to even walk forward. I could hit every single skill shot and my ADC would be hitting minion wave
Just like alway ward the river. Doesnt matter if you’re top or bot lane. Always do it. I laughed at that braum main since im a braum main myself... even if warding the river means abandoning your adc for a sec... just use W to get back to them if the get traded.
Is having good vision score where i've placed about 80 in about 30 min where they been placed in good spots good? like i've placed wards so me and my team could easily see the enemy team and when they gank, Im silver 3 and playing with gold players due to that i team with someone thats in gold and i still do a little better then gold. (main support)
As good as these guides are, I hate the vocabulary used. Making mistakes is not trolling. Sometimes it feels like these guides are making fun of their audience. It's a very unprofessional approach imo.
Swain was a horrible first example. None of his abilities can be blocked by Blitzcrank. You want to actually be behind your teammate to block his return E root if you want to block it. Though you should only move into that position after E is first sent out to catch it at most. You can also grab Zombie Ward so that your sweeping creates vision. Or Ghost Poro so your vision lasts longer.
Don't wanna be rude but at 2 minutes how is it blitz's fault he grabbed poked some then fell back twitch overstayed and then hit a minion and then turned for no reason ... I mean yes blitz could have saved him but it's not primarily his fault
little question concerning blitz at 0:11. It look like his adc was going too far, wouldn't he just have died too trying to help him ? At least in this situation he can hope to leach some xp from the lane and not completly lose the lane no ? legit question, not troll.
Yeah. Looked to me like blitz thought it was a losing fight and was wanting to back off to me. Admittedly if he had gone in and tried to save the adc and died doing so he would have got flamed for that as well.
Well I find the problem is that people don't actually know how to play ad at gold level. For instance that blitz hook get a good trade then we leave, why would that twitch all in. I really don't think blitz did anything wrong but rather that ad is bad and don't understand trade
I hate smurfs so many of them might as well flip a coin on who gets the smurf late in the season. Also ruins the mmr calibration. It's like a tball coach hopping into a game. Just stay on the sideline you clowns.
The greatest mistakes a support makes is when an adc is real low health and they are full health and all of a sudden they attack them all out. Then the adc lifesteals and turns even a 10% adc around and kills them.
As a support main i see vision control as a really big issue for support players (and also all other roles) .... it is really rare that the enemy counterpart support gets near to my vision score (80% of it at least). Most of the time i double or tripple their vision score and you can really see how it makes them lose the match
On my eune acc i got like 84% winrate from a fresh acc up to gold4. (After which i quit eune) All i did was ward properly and choke out their vision completely. Makes the game so easy because your team is way less likely to get caught
