LS | Why Cloud 9 Have So Many Problems ft. Selfmade and Unforgiven | TL vs C9 

If you watch the recent C9 vlog it seems like everything is going wrong behind the scenes, Berserker was raging because nobody else on the team cared about scrims

They blind picked Lee game 2 because he's blind! The perfect blind pick champ

Man, remember when 3/5 of C9’s current roster made it to quarterfinals at worlds? I miss that. Bring that back.

gonna have to fire yamato after this failure.

Berserker going back to LCK daaaayum nice

systems diff

Berserker wants out lmao

Waxwell Maldo, Bane of Balgernon

Maybe I am wrong, but it feels like Blaber is getting more credit cause of his history, than his performance has show. Its like Clozer or Santorin at the end of their "hyper carry" days. Free pass on inactivity and int plays no one else would get.

If they're better pound for pound, all they have to do is follow a supersize me program.

It probs mean a lot to LS because the dominant C9 in recent times was basically built within the LS network of friends/recruited by LS. And watching these things crumble just makes him tilt

Greatest part that came from this C9 roaster is the C9 sub reddit. If you havent viewed the absolute crazy frenzy C9 fans are going through on reddit, youre missing out. Simular to when C9 fired LS, the entire Subreddit has pitchforks.

C9 chemistry and their systems have been so scuffed ever since they let go of LS. LS diff tbh.

There is no point in time where you could say fudge was or is a better top laner than impact bro

Jack wants to keep the members for summer.

C9 needs to bring back stability. Impact up Top, Jensen in Mid and Zven back as support. Zven actually understood how to unlock Berserker, especially with Berserker's language barrier and probably has better team building skills inside and outside the game. Mithy as a coach hasn't been working out for a while now, the drafts have been weird and hard to execute when the current C9 super team members all want to play a different way.

Selfmade’s giggle at 8:00 was way too funny

Systems9 LuL

Nah surely Beserker leaves for Lpl or Korea. C9 is so bad.

cant be super team with Fudge on the team

Your boy Fudge is the issue

Lmao Jojo regreting not joining TL for sure :)

usually you watch the pros to learn... love the random shit look like my elo

@3:08 the reason that c9 loses this fight is due to blabber engages onto apa which looks good until you realize the backline has no peel to stop jax ksante and in a fight without carries c9 loses every time because renekton and maokai arent meant to beat jax ksante unironically blabber fucked this up by not playing for peel he played maokai like hes vi or xin zhao think fudge carried that fight if blabber wasnt so horny to engage

Why senna shroud look like liou V logo

Blabber can’t hit a single lee sin Q in game 2 and god it’s so hard to watch

Zven seems like a big aprt of the teams identity and they were consistently winning bot lanes i never thought he should go and may have been correct im more then fine with the JoJo swap mid but i would have swapped Fudge for Licorice before i swapped Zven with Vulcan.

15:45 blaber ward?

C9 needs Licorice, Sludge has been consistently getting destroyed top lane if Blabber isn't camping tf out of him.

Draft full face comp 3 games in a row. Get outscaled and outplayed in the early game, lose again and again. Play Lucian Nami when no one but the most die hard LPL teams play it. This just goes to show the problems with this team. It's worse in this region because these players (C9) are so much better than the other players. So their concept and philosophical issues are not being exposed until playoffs, just like James Harden. Your system will be exposed for what it is. A scrub stomper and not a real winning formula.

Systems fckn diff , C9 is the New TSM , ruining LCS by getting top tier players from Na/the west and farm lcs , and never actually try different things to achieve something internationally. Jack playing it safe.... Ffs

i think zven leaving was super bad, they need more hard workers. Vulcan is good, so is Jojo but I dont think they are like devoted tryhard players. but idk I can be totally off base, I havent watched previous games only Vlogs they done

The Systems are so powerful you guys...

C9 is a team who got 69 shot callers

There is no leadership experience on these teams and it shows. Just because someone was a good LOL player does not mean they can coach, those are two wildly different skillsets. Also this pussiefied "we all have to say and think the same thing" is not only stupid, it flies in the face of basic human nature. Super teams will have overwhelming failure rates because having 5 individually strong players does not automatically equate to a strong team. Sure help them with physical health but what is any team doing for mental development? Sending them to a head shrinker or wiping their ass when they whine is not going to do it. This game is literally oozing millenial/zoomer vibes and THAT is why it is failing. These players need to be broken and rebuilt from the ground up. You treat them like special snowflakes and that is what you get.

TL slowly becoming NAs t1 😂. Lose for 15 mins, get an objective and instawin.

Why did LS stop covering other regions.

Crazy that you put a spoiler in the thumbnail and title. Actually defeats the whole purpose of the video and feels so shit to find out the result this way

fugde is washed that it

Nice to finally see C9 collapse

Fudge and blaber are straight up trash been saying it for years some of the biggest chokers in NA

i hate to admit it but. Emenes is Right lmaoooooooooooooooo

okay JACK get selfmade and nemi on the phone after this one JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE

LS is full of it. So called expert

Every game is the same boring champions. No wonder people stopped caring about competitive LOL.

Emenes was right.

c9 have 3 problems. 1.) Berserker never does that much dmg and is usually out dps’d by enemy adc 2.) Fudge is hella overrated and just an average LCS toplaner. Small champ pool and seems to just survive lane and do nothing. That being said he actually had his playoffs I have ever seen and actually kept them in it longer then they should have 3.) c9 got no go guy. They don’t have a corejj who will engage in and int sometimes but also land some sick fcking engages

So much hate aimed at the third best team in the region. They completely body anyone unable to match their hands. Get bodied by those that can. Poor team work is the issue. Get to the midgame somewhat close and you'll beat them. C9 are the gate keepers between awful teams and decent teams. No legit great teams exist in NA. MSI will prove that.

You predicted c9 winning 3-0. You have 0 credibility when your friends are in the mix 🤷‍♂️

What happened to maxwaldo??

Ls not blaming fudge cause theyre friends when fudge is a dirty inter