LS3 V8 ND Miata Track Impressions

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Quinn is let loose in the most rowdy Miata he has ever driven on the FCP Euro Proving Grounds at Limerock Park. This LS3 powered ND was hand built by Sarasota Super Sport Performance!
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@sarasotasupersportperformance Месяц назад

In an effort to answer some questions before they reach our inbox...... The test car Quinn drove is fitted with brake pads and an adjustable rear swaybar both intended for street-use. While we do not offer a dedicated "Track Pack" as of yet, clients who express their intent to participate in HPDE-style track days may receive a car with much more aggressive brake pads and given the option to retain the OEM rear swaybar (in addition to the upgraded rear swaybar, all at no additional cost) if they have an inner-knucklehead like Quinn does. We'll be back for that lap record. Watch your back C7 Z06! ;)

@tealchief Месяц назад

What tires run on this car?

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

A little suspension tuning and a little more tire would make this car an absolute weapon! But at the end of the day, does it really matter? This car is a great joy to drive and that's what matters the most.

@RobertMeany Месяц назад

Awesome... Sorry if I'm being a broken record, but... I just wish, for those of us (and I know we are a small part of your viewership) that run the regular autocross days there, there was an easy way for you to shift over to using the same layout as we do so we have a basis for comparison on the times!

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

If you are talking about adding the uphill to our layout, that's most likely what will happen with every new car we test from this point on.

@RobertMeany Месяц назад

@@TheSlipAngle yessir, thanks!

@renellplatero7408 11 дней назад

I want to start off by saying I'm a Ford man thru & thru. With that aside, even I can see the engineering that went into this build. That LS sounds sinister Mazda & Chevrolet need to collaborate & put this machine into production. Great job. Wow!

@maybelive765 Месяц назад

this is awesome. Literally what I wanted since I was 14.

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

It's a great formula

@davidmccaughan2710 Месяц назад

8:08-8:50 is like a dream! Great camera work as always.

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

Thanks! That means a lot!

@Dansyoung Месяц назад

I am doing a similar swap into a 2005 RX8 - LS3, T56 magnum f, 8.8 with 3.73 gears. Thanks for the video it looks like it’s going to be a blast.

@mykhailjw Месяц назад

Holy cow! I would love to be able to do this to my 19 ND2. I absolutely love my car, but this would take it to the stratosphere.

@RYCOPZ Месяц назад

Uh oh. I think my bucket list just got fuller.

@MikeDawson1 Месяц назад

@sarasotasupersportperformance let Throttle House review one, and your interest in these will skyrocket

@mountainofmangos 24 дня назад

savagegeese would do this car justice

@DeadVibe_ Месяц назад

I want an nd to add to my miata collection so bad

@bandlover4life472 Месяц назад

I think you can get an ND1 for around 16k maybe less

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

It's a great chassis!

@Tony_miata Месяц назад

It's the only Miata devoid of steering feel and involvement. Test drive first. Hardest if passes for me

@bleachit42 Месяц назад

@@Tony_miata eh... you're not wrong about the steering, but at the same time- you get used to it, and then you don't miss it. The steering is very light and easy to use. You're never fighting the wheel. Drifting is very intuitive and controllable. It's not *completely* devoid of steering feel but yeah it's nothing like hydraulic.

@EVOVIISWE Месяц назад

@@Tony_miata This build includes a Camaro hydraulic rack, so no electric assist any more.

@alphadriver2840 Месяц назад

Long time subscriber from down under here.. props to you Quinn for articulating things whilst hanging the car sideways at decent speed + love the slow shots too! This thing is an absolute weapon and I secretly dream of doing this to an ND in the future. Having owned an NB previously, now own an FD, my million dollar question to you is.. What's your take on how this compares (if you can compare it), to your FD? Balance, power, overall feel + fun factor?

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

Thank you brother. It's just an entirely different car. Not better, not worse, just different. The FD still holds a spot in my top 5 cars of all time.

@maxcactus7 Месяц назад

Positively efffing MENTAL!! I want one!!

@NicoBremeau Месяц назад

great driving and amazing review.

@constantinrenoir8273 Месяц назад

Very great job man! It could be possible for next videos to fix a camera on the pedalbox to film your footwork please? :)

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

Something we always talk about. We will try to make it a point to do it.

@constantinrenoir8273 Месяц назад

@@TheSlipAngle Great, thank you very much! ;)

@tomek9567 Месяц назад

perfect i want this for nc

@wackit6756 Месяц назад

The adrenaline and racing heart continued on me after watching! So much fun. I do think this application would look better in the soft top as opposed to an RF but hey, it works. 👍

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

We personally like the look of RF but the soft top is about 100lbs lighter!

@VictorPitstop Месяц назад

FINALLY!!

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

Sorry, this one took a while to release. Life happens sometimes...

@VictorPitstop Месяц назад

@@TheSlipAngle the RU-vid grind is unrelenting.

@tomoday4450 Месяц назад

Looks like great fun 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@JacesOwnWorld Месяц назад

Miata owners: The Miata doesn’t need more power. All you power guys need to chill. It’s about handling. Miata owners after seeing this video: I need more power. 🤣🤣🤣

@AstroZombie1 Месяц назад

I agree Miatas could use a little more power, but an LS3 with 430whp on a car that can only handle 235 tires just seems like overkill. Rarely in this video does he maintain traction with even slight acceleration. I think threshold for max power and quickest track times is well below 400whp and probably closer to 275-300whp, which would warrant a beefy 2.0 or 3.0 turbocharged motor.

@TheSlipAngle 29 дней назад

lol

@summushieremiasclarkson4700 4 дня назад

@@AstroZombie1 What the miata needs - an inline 6. Power is irrelevant, even if it made the same 181hp, an inline 6 is way better for balance, handling, smoothness, and is usually the same weight as an i4 due to the lack of balancing weights inside the engine, and usually less complex.

@travisswanson3449 Месяц назад

167th big fat like. Call it the Sidewinder SS, just to stick with the modern day Shelby cobra progressive snake naminculture, the hint at the Chevy engine, and the sideways nature, lol.

@gcooper9 Месяц назад

My 30AE RF needs this.

@arrivendrive6831 Месяц назад

Nice camera work. I was surprised to see it was only 2 tenths faster than the OEM version. I am sure that on a larger 5 would be a bigger gap. That Z06 put down a super impressive lap.

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

The ND you're speaking of was supercharged and setup as a dedicated track car. It was substantially faster than a stock ND. The Z06 though heavier has substantially more tire and power than this car. If you put more tire under this ND and decrease the rear roll stiffness a little, this car would no doubt set a record on this track. For a prototype car without much suspension setup, this did extremely well.

@arrivendrive6831 Месяц назад

That car is defenetly impressive. I would prefer a Mazda engine like a rotary 20b NA, but I do like the v8 also.

@TexasVexes Месяц назад

What a monster.

@neilobusk Месяц назад

Tasty for sure..... we call it raaging it...Hooon... Its a Pocket rocket... sort of like the lady I need... Matcheeeeews on the cam..? excellenteeeee N x

@Kevaughan Месяц назад

Do any customers buy these for racing (i.e. Gridlife) or most of the owners just for drive casually?

@dantrevino6193 Месяц назад

Looks like fun and interested to know what the track times were compared to other cars on the same track. The setup and tires don't favor track driving, but it looks like it is capable and with a few adjustments it could be a serious track beast. But I think the market is going to be more street and weekend driving on curvy roads. The cost is about right for such a fine-tuned car that is not going to get you killed. Corvettes are 100k plus and Mustangs are about 60k but this is one of the ultimate handling and power capable cars for miles of smiles.

@Nebbia_affaraccimiei Месяц назад

Im shocked it didn’t beat that boat of C7 on all seasons

@jjchockey Месяц назад

@@Nebbia_affaraccimiei235 tires vs 295 tires.

@Nebbia_affaraccimiei Месяц назад

LoL more rubber is useless if you cant use it properly

@markmartin7384 Месяц назад

He has lap times of other cars at the end

@markmartin7384 Месяц назад

@@Nebbia_affaraccimiei c7 is a more capable chassis

@colinbowman8816 Месяц назад

2790 lb full fuel, no driver. Gained around 350 lb in the swap? Seems like a lot. I'm sure it's absolutely worth it though.

@R03333 Месяц назад

Better to think of it as a lighter muscle car than a heavier Miata

@colinbowman8816 Месяц назад

@@R03333 1120 lb lighter than a newer LT1 Camaro. Around 50 lb lighter than a new GR86. Pretty cool.

@AlumarsX Месяц назад

Same weight as a stripped out S2000 with double the power and triple the torque

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

@R03333 This

@groo2765 Месяц назад

God that has to be so heavy!

@SilverSurfer77 Месяц назад

I believe the engine and driveline only added 150 lbs.

@groo2765 Месяц назад

👍

@TheSlipAngle 29 дней назад

2790 lbs

@JDtimesten Месяц назад

This looks like a desirable exotic that could cost less than many desirable NA 80's Porsche 911s.

@just.a.simplejoe Месяц назад

235/40 R17 ........ on this V8 monster. Wtf, they crazy. I run alongside many other hpde ND guys at 245/40 R17 with a stock na ND2 and I can let the car loose at 200hp. Jesus help the owner.

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

A street car with maximum grip is not as fun as one without...

@just.a.simplejoe Месяц назад

@TheSlipAngle I guess that's one way of approaching it hahaha. It's a sweet ride but good heavens are those tiny tires for that power to weight ratio.

@illsz Месяц назад

I've got an LS3 NC down in VA with 255s, and I can confirm it still spins the RT615K+ pretty well 😁

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

@@just.a.simplejoe We were actually surprised how well those Azenis were able to handle the power especially in that size.

@yeetusdeletus9 Месяц назад

i get the feeling this car wasnt designed to really chase laptimes. it was built so you smile as you drive it, and breathe a sigh of relief when you step out of it lmao

@seaofrage Месяц назад

Shiet this guy can drive! I gotta watch him rip it in more cars.

@bananers6013 Месяц назад

What do they charge for the conversion?

@JohnnysGarage Месяц назад

i want this but man its expensive

@crool88 Месяц назад

Do you know how much it costs?

@JohnnysGarage Месяц назад

@@crool88 car+the work = about $100k

@crool88 Месяц назад

@@JohnnysGarage yikes. Pretty sure the entire package was about $50k when Flyin Miata was doing it (not including the base car)

@junk3996 9 дней назад

@@JohnnysGarage for this though, that isn't bad at all you'll be spending like 100k for whatever else too and it isn't as unique or crazy

@rynorx7 Месяц назад

I’d love build my own in Aus

@travdripdrip382 Месяц назад

C7 still bested em. That's crazy! I thought for sure this would beat the c7

@Arcaged Месяц назад

That thing is a dragster all that power is wasted if you don't drive it with eggs under your foot but i think if you master it it can match

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

A little suspension tuning and more tire would make this car considerably faster.

@billm5004 Месяц назад

38.52 lap time seems impressive. What is the record there?

@rooneyw2208 Месяц назад

This looks like the most fun you can have with your clothes on

@mastercricket7626 Месяц назад

Cool car , but I still prefer the feel of a turbo 4cyl

@grocerylist Месяц назад

It appears to be a fun drift toy, but it seems wasteful with 235 tires. I am not a fan of widebody kits, but with this much horsepower, it seems necessary to fit more appropriately sized tires. It would have been nice to see an attempt at a good lap time rather than drifting around the entire track.

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

The first part of the session was strictly for lap time.

@grocerylist Месяц назад

@TheSlipAngle sorry, i must have missed the laptime.

@seanmabey1609 Месяц назад

While I love a big engine in a small car, id like to see the difference between this and a turbo k24 swap in the same car

@andrewrossnagel9433 Месяц назад

Depends on the K24. Lightly modded vs built k24 is big difference in price.

@TheSlipAngle 29 дней назад

I don't think anyone has actually K swapped an ND yet

@monaro383 Месяц назад

looked like it was a diff problem (LSD loose) spinning inside wheel. nice car tho

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

It's from the stiffer rear bar. Too much roll stiffness in the rear

@Nebbia_affaraccimiei Месяц назад

No LSD???

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

It's got an LSD from a Camaro ZL1 1LE, not sure if thats a Torsen or clutch pack diff though..

@philb8437 Месяц назад

This is just so odd, it feels so much like the sound track of the v8 has been added to a video of a miata, it just doesn't belong

@evoguy23 Месяц назад

Man this thing needs a widebody and at least 285 tires

@johncanale3454 Месяц назад

First. In before he says it's a baby corvette

@ricepony33 Месяц назад

I guess that makes me last? ;)

@JFaucey Месяц назад

Going for fast laps but didnt even put the top on... All kinds of drag

@TheSlipAngle 22 дня назад

It's not like all the money is on the line for some championship race series. We film these videos to show what realistic any day of the week performance looks like. So the cars are run just as they are run on the street unless otherwise noted. This isn't a high speed course so the difference in drag is probably negligible anyways.

@lucas____6403 Месяц назад

sounded like that lsd really wasn't doing it's job

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

It's the stiffer rear sway bar picking up the inside wheel which causes the LSD to unlock. It's an easy fix

@roustabout4fun Месяц назад

That looks like funn~ I want m0re feelavisi0n! lol You have a fun job and hobby!

@cablecutter12 Месяц назад

Exponentially? LOL 155 squared is over 24k, not 400 or 500. The word you were searching for is Geometrically.

@TheSlipAngle 29 дней назад

I said performance, not horsepower. Thanks for watching!

@chipattack912 Месяц назад

Why don’t you run the real track?

@TheSlipAngle Месяц назад

It's a lot to try to film with only a 2 man crew and it costs a good amount more money to rent.

@chipattack912 Месяц назад

@@TheSlipAngle makes sense

@jdcarguy1242 Месяц назад

Seriously under-tired.

@elesjuan Месяц назад

These videos anger me to my absolute core. Way back in 2016 I popped yet another 1.8 turbo engine in my NA MX5, only to have my shithead brother plant the idea of "why not just LS swap your car?" in my head. Legit did not want to spend the actual THOUSANDS of dollars on the V8R subframe, tarns/diff mounts... My brother is a pro metal fabricator by trade, says to me, "get me a stock subframe and we'll make the rest." 45 minutes later he had a stock subframe, meanwhile I go click click click and have an L33, Hurst t56 Magnum, axles, diff, etc etc etc etc.... What is today? July 2024, my brother has yet to lift a finger building me a subframe for an LS swap. FFS....

@TexasVexes Месяц назад

Gonna have to pay someone else at this point. You already have all the other parts it seems.

@sarasotasupersportperformance Месяц назад

Sell brother Buy Miata SS

@colin_g Месяц назад

Of course the car is impressive and exciting, but man does it ever look good too. I think the black RF with the 6ULs looks spectacular, like a mean little Japanese muscle car