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Nigel Thomas from the London Symphony Orchestra gives a timpani master class for the RU-vid Symphony Orchestra 2011 lso.co.uk/players

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@GoOKuSj33
@GoOKuSj33 7 лет назад
Very important: Don't rush, keep it steady, again don't rush, ah and also: DON'T RUSH!
@SMmarcus100
@SMmarcus100 6 лет назад
I think you forgot to mention..."don't rush!"
@wilhelmpitz1
@wilhelmpitz1 7 лет назад
Mr. T. you are of the main reasons I go to hear the LSO concerts in the Barbican. Your playing is spell-binding, and I cannot take my eyes off you when you play. How crazy for a seriously old person such as me not to have realized it is the timpani that sets the rhythm for the orchestra to follow... of course you do! The subtlety of your playing from deftness to powerful expression is truly brilliant. You were made to take a single bow recently at the end of the concert, and the audience went crazy for you. Just as it should be. Bravo.
@nicholausbisma
@nicholausbisma 11 лет назад
I am learning about the musical instruments used in the orchestra. Thank you very much!
@halloausdusseldorf
@halloausdusseldorf 6 лет назад
Thank you for your wonderful presentation and tips!
@shawnellemartineaux6212
@shawnellemartineaux6212 3 года назад
I love this instrument on so many levels. 😍
@jonhillery7736
@jonhillery7736 9 лет назад
"You'll look like a chump"
@agnieszkaglonek2531
@agnieszkaglonek2531 5 лет назад
Thank you. My children really liked it.
@BeauFerchaud
@BeauFerchaud 11 лет назад
I played Timpani in 8th grade. I love the way they sound and how you can put them in a key with your foot! I wanted to go all "John Bonham" on them.
@retrogaming7654
@retrogaming7654 12 лет назад
It was great, very instructive, thank you.
@DaneBryantFrazier
@DaneBryantFrazier 11 лет назад
I don't play either and I'm watching this, lol. I've actually watched about all of this stuff with these different instruments, because they are all awesome and done by a great orchestra.
@uiet1123
@uiet1123 12 лет назад
The enigma piece sounded so cool.
@StephenFiorentini
@StephenFiorentini 13 лет назад
A man of true technique
@MissGrannieHannie
@MissGrannieHannie 11 лет назад
Thomas: "I know it sounds pretty messy without the orchestra, but..." Mere mortals everywhere: ._.;
@PhantomDrums917
@PhantomDrums917 11 лет назад
Excellent technique!
@mechanichalpixels
@mechanichalpixels 10 лет назад
I'm not even a classical musician, and yet I'm inspired.
@emanuel_soundtrack
@emanuel_soundtrack 4 года назад
hearing the timpany my safari creashed unexpectedly
@34672rr
@34672rr 8 лет назад
I love how the renaissance heads sound like a metal string. I have a few drums with them and they all have that mettalic boing to them.
@lucasrodriguez2176
@lucasrodriguez2176 5 лет назад
Increíble masterclass
@csarito
@csarito 12 лет назад
yeah, great band, great album and that beautiful song to wrap it up, i fucking love groundation and those irregular measures
@cuentavueltas123
@cuentavueltas123 7 лет назад
Wonderfulll!!!
@MrPianoSynthesia
@MrPianoSynthesia 11 лет назад
His shirt is awesome :p
@theslow-down
@theslow-down 11 лет назад
i have to agree with this. I have played timpani on a grade 6 piece. It was Parkour by Samuel Hazo. It is very hard when you are playing 16th notes and have a random 16th rest every few beats. My biggest problem is grip and rolls because you cant bounce the mallets.
@mikeneug3769
@mikeneug3769 12 лет назад
"Looks easy!" ~tries to play~ "The fuck is this black magic?!?"
@milestucker
@milestucker 9 лет назад
The overtones on his D for Beethoven 9 are killing my soul.
@34672rr
@34672rr 8 лет назад
That's because you are not hearing them with the orchestra. Renaissance heads have this very stringy metallic overtone that sounds kinda harsh when alone, but blends in and cuts at the same time with other instruments. I use them for many different drums, and they are the best I have ever heard. Calf theoretically sounds best but only when in tune, and that's rarely. It's almost impossible to clear calf heads for any period of time.
@tympanzi
@tympanzi 11 лет назад
I used to feel the same way. Nearly 40 years ago I was originally taught to play standing. When playing using a French grip style, standing is not at all awkward. For Beethoven or similar parts that don't require rapid tuning, standing is fine and has some long tradition to back it up. For a modern player, playing modern parts, this is no longer practical. After all, early tympani did not have pedals, so keeping both feet available was not a consideration. Modern music requires of sitting.
@detectivehome3318
@detectivehome3318 4 года назад
Ling Ling 40 years
@lflarry1
@lflarry1 13 лет назад
@UpcomingJedi You're kidding of course. Timps are quite challenging to play well
@AttitudeCastle
@AttitudeCastle 11 лет назад
In my experience the Timpani is much more about the details and precision. Not the most technically demanding instrument in the orchestra but it can really make or break some sections. A talented and experienced Timapnisit will benefit those around them is what I've always found!
@uhoh38125
@uhoh38125 13 лет назад
HI, I want to find a big drum that will make a low end booming rumble for a percussion in my Church (very contemporary)... not the drummer. Is a tipani my best choice or should I use a surdo or something. If i tune this down low will it work? Thanks anyone who can help,it is very appreciated.... I love your work!
@Rickeeey1
@Rickeeey1 11 лет назад
Because it's interesting to find out about other instruments, especially if you're considering orchestrating or composing. Besides as a trombonist you should know how the rest of the players in an orchestra play so you can play with them better.
@SC0RP10N54281
@SC0RP10N54281 10 лет назад
I personally find it easier to tune drums during pieces when im sat down and playing, it doesn't affect musicality
@NocturnalReality
@NocturnalReality 13 лет назад
@kryptonx13 Same here except for my school I'm currently play Timpani for our indoor Percussion program as well as Marching band, Good Luck!
@musicinmotion11
@musicinmotion11 7 лет назад
Super. Such clarity and accuracy. Only minute quibble: Piu Allegro is subtitled as Pure Allegro (3 times!) :)
@DevynPope
@DevynPope 13 лет назад
@uhoh38125 Use a concert bass drum. Timpani in the low end just sound wobbly.
@dustylee
@dustylee 13 лет назад
any chances you can post a video about pedaling(pedal gliss) and maybe double pedaling. i am unfortunate to only be able to play on three timpani (highest pitch timpani was stolen) at my school so i have to compensate by pedaling but i dont think i have the right technique. also the pedal doesnt stick, so i have to keep my foot on the pedals to keep them from tightening. someone mentioned sitting on stools for timpani. i only sit down when i double pedal but most ly when i play i stand
@paratimp
@paratimp 6 месяцев назад
What should be the difference between the first beat of bars 544 and 545?
@MichaelMyers6789
@MichaelMyers6789 6 лет назад
Man so crispy
@matthewd2528
@matthewd2528 8 лет назад
good job
@francescolupo6171
@francescolupo6171 7 лет назад
How can he get that roll speed? Does he use fingers? That's strange!
@Michael-Oh
@Michael-Oh 7 лет назад
Why is it strange?
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 5 лет назад
I’m not a fan of his roll speed.
@bassbonemexie
@bassbonemexie 11 лет назад
useful to know if you are interested in performing or teaching ( another trombone player here )
@Cyberbob182
@Cyberbob182 13 лет назад
@teddyguy83 So the emotion goal of the timpanist isn't to create emotion himself, but to transmit it in union with the other instruments am I right ?
@ihateuutube
@ihateuutube 11 лет назад
i heard timpani and oboe are usually the highest paid positions. is this true?
@Cyberbob182
@Cyberbob182 13 лет назад
I really don't know the timpani technics, but I know a little bit about drums. As a beginner drummer, I don't find those examples really hard, but I know I'm wrong, he knows what he is talking about. But why is it so hard ?
@shawnellemartineaux6212
@shawnellemartineaux6212 3 года назад
Because with drums, you don't really sight read much. Timpani are percussion, but they're tuned percussion. So, it's kind of like playing a bass as a percussion. And, the rest of the orchestra depends on the percussionist to keep time, all while considering that it is a classical instrument and classical music tends to be heavily emotive. Imagine playing something written in counterpoint and if you strike the wrong drum, the whole chord gets screwed up. 😂 It is that deep.
@PlanetNinetyTwo
@PlanetNinetyTwo 11 лет назад
Isn't amazing what a masterful player can do with two or three tones ?
@Dracodeumonis
@Dracodeumonis 12 лет назад
Classical Drum Solo!!!
@shakuras24
@shakuras24 11 лет назад
After Reading all the comments here...¿Percussion section still Underrated? Time to grow up people.
@heymynameiscleeff
@heymynameiscleeff 10 лет назад
awsome'
@PercPhreak
@PercPhreak 12 лет назад
it's like chess, a minute to learn, a life time to master. Hochrainer etudes would destroy you
@5758Wanderer
@5758Wanderer 11 лет назад
Viene voglia di suonare i timpani...
@bsennello
@bsennello 13 лет назад
If I had a set of timpani, I'd just spend all day playing Also Sprach Zarathustra. :)
@shawnellemartineaux6212
@shawnellemartineaux6212 3 года назад
Same.
@vicentetellogalarza6804
@vicentetellogalarza6804 9 лет назад
what timpani is it, please.?
@tomassdaleyy
@tomassdaleyy 11 лет назад
Yes I do, and look at all the professional players. Do they stand up?
@klmsdrummer
@klmsdrummer 12 лет назад
This is my goal.
@AnthonyMariano2112
@AnthonyMariano2112 13 лет назад
@soullessSiIence Why would you be sad? Timp kicks ass!
@gabrielleholly9148
@gabrielleholly9148 11 лет назад
Viewed this video as research for a scene in Book 3 of my paranormal erotic romance series. Now I think I've fallen for Nigel.
@00ChaosDragon00
@00ChaosDragon00 13 лет назад
@Toshfunk but this is not drumset now is it?
@monster3386
@monster3386 11 лет назад
it gets harder once you in high school
@murphaucamp
@murphaucamp 11 лет назад
nice tuning bro
@StephenFiorentini
@StephenFiorentini 13 лет назад
you need a lot of hand control to handle timpani drums
@Hx402rRS
@Hx402rRS 10 лет назад
Release the khrp
@thecelloman1300
@thecelloman1300 13 лет назад
"Don't rush."
@SuperSaiyanScandinavian
@SuperSaiyanScandinavian 11 лет назад
It's kinda ignorant to say it's easy or difficult, really... I mean, it all depends how you use it. Sure if you're in an orchestra, it could be quite difficult. I wouldn't know, I've never been in that situation; however, if you're using it on your own and adding it to a song you've written etc. then it can also be quite easy. It depends completely on the written material and the situation you're playing in. Same goes for just about any other instrument too. (except for the french horn maybe)
@contr4dixion
@contr4dixion 12 лет назад
@aaronrocs Warcraft 3 soundtrack music for a little tribal/racial twist?
@Vesivian
@Vesivian 12 лет назад
u jus hit dah drum laaa
@lakerspzy
@lakerspzy 13 лет назад
pardon me, is the D a lil bit on the flat side?
@johnz.miller2258
@johnz.miller2258 11 лет назад
Excellent old boy you'll be there in a jiffy.
@Roligyilok
@Roligyilok 13 лет назад
ok but what kind of sound is this?
@MrPianoSynthesia
@MrPianoSynthesia 12 лет назад
lol i like his shirt
@aaronrocs
@aaronrocs 12 лет назад
yeah I feel bad now. I didn't notice that it was supposed to be a lesson. I just wanted to hear some epic Timpani music that reminds me or War Music. It's really hard to find and I got a little frustrated. I wanted (what I consider) war music, but every video I click on is either civil war marching band junk or heavy metal crap. If you have any suggestions, please share.
@ryanm.russellsmusicrecordi63
@ryanm.russellsmusicrecordi63 4 года назад
Are you a percussionist ?
@NoahAngott
@NoahAngott 12 лет назад
Allegro non Trompo? Way to go, subtitles.
@schnozz87
@schnozz87 13 лет назад
@Toshfunk Actually Nigel is a brilliant drum kit player too, some people maybe just play different to you? Crazy idea, I know...
@MrMertakhai
@MrMertakhai 12 лет назад
He makes it look easy* I can assure you, it's not
@coaldoubt2879
@coaldoubt2879 4 года назад
I wouldn’t know. My home is not big enough for these things. Plus, I tend to rush things.....so
@872andy872
@872andy872 11 лет назад
I'm just a beginning percussionist, can anyone add anything helpful onto what he said?
@kaoru1998
@kaoru1998 5 лет назад
Get a teacher? This stuff won’t make any sense to you for a while yet, being a beginner. That’s the best advice I can give. A teacher, lots of practice and then, later comes the repertoire.
@4thwatcher777
@4thwatcher777 12 лет назад
The difficult part about the Timpani isn't playing it, but is tuning. When there's a key change in the piece, you're going to have to tune them inconspicuously! Most of the time, you will only get one shot to perfectly tune the timpani. If you're tuning is off, every one will hear it and it won't sound pleasant! It's not easy to memorize the pitch and intervals!
@Donutswithlazerz
@Donutswithlazerz 5 лет назад
4thwatcher777 na
@matthewlewis8292
@matthewlewis8292 11 лет назад
What kind of timpani are those?
@someguythatsucksatdrumstan1510
Aenhelt Timpani made by Lefima
@SuperNguyenChannel
@SuperNguyenChannel 10 лет назад
Sounds like a Trong Drum
@Vesivian
@Vesivian 13 лет назад
Looks easy
@Bloodark124
@Bloodark124 11 лет назад
I don't know, but consider this - a percussion player is to learn and know a great variety of percussion instruments, and they are most importantly, must be extremely reliable. If you make a mistake (e.g. too loud, slightly too fast, hitting with the wrong way/technique), everyone knows and you will have no where to hide, unlike a single violinist's mistake and 10+ other violinists covering your mistake. So, knowledge of instruments + skills + rare specialist = high pay? Probably. So,
@repugnant__6379
@repugnant__6379 11 лет назад
I'm doing Beethoven 9 for ensemble auditions and I thought I had a good grasp, but my rolls are just absolute garbage in comparison.
@bonniebowduns431
@bonniebowduns431 7 лет назад
Don't feel bad - Nigel has one of the fastest rolls on timps I have ever seen. I'd like to ask him if there is a way to speed up your rolls . Mine are ok on the 32 and 29 but are too slow on the 23 and 21. Watch his hands - he must be doing 10/second with each hand compared to my 6 or 7/sec - jealous !!
@kaoru1998
@kaoru1998 5 лет назад
@@bonniebowduns431 -How fast the roll should be depends on the size drum you are playing on. Do you have a teacher? Contact the professional orchestra in your area and see if you can study with their timpanist. Then, you can get your questions answered. It’s too hard to explain in words how to properly play rolls. The power doesn’t come from just the hands. It’s a combination of movement. It’s hard to explain without showing what I mean.
@wadoryu2u
@wadoryu2u 13 лет назад
anybody else notice his muffling technique? it was pretty sad, every single time he muffled the timpani made a very noticeable vibrating sound
@examine1525
@examine1525 11 лет назад
But... what makes it really hard?
@100fakeman
@100fakeman 11 лет назад
I had the first excerpt for a symphony audition and I'm in 8th grade -_-
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 4 года назад
So how's college?
@willprater3234
@willprater3234 11 лет назад
its really hard just telling you its not easy
@missmaestro1
@missmaestro1 13 лет назад
aww he looks sad
@panplayer
@panplayer 13 лет назад
He's totally playing into the drum & the sound is just breaking up. Hmmm.....
@PoisonXGun
@PoisonXGun 12 лет назад
For everyone who says Timpani is an easy instrument, try and then speak.
@schnozz87
@schnozz87 12 лет назад
@Maybe listen to what he says, you might learn something...
@csarito
@csarito 12 лет назад
french grip all the way huh?
@Bambatsa13
@Bambatsa13 11 лет назад
I play the trombone...why the hell am i watching this...(very nice by the way)
@shawnellemartineaux6212
@shawnellemartineaux6212 3 года назад
Mood 😂😂 But it's sooo good!
@FilipusWisnumurti
@FilipusWisnumurti 12 лет назад
hitting the timpani is easy, BUT, tuning it and memorize the pitches and where you must hit id very difficult, so it's a diffucult instrument
@Skutieos7
@Skutieos7 11 лет назад
purchase a timpani drum key and ask your band director to teach you how to clear a timpani head. assuming your high school's timpani sound like crap, nobody is going to fix it but you.
@Vesivian
@Vesivian 12 лет назад
I was trolling ;p
@UpcomingJedi
@UpcomingJedi 13 лет назад
@milillom Who cares what you think anyways?
@anastasijaredzic8649
@anastasijaredzic8649 11 лет назад
i suppose you sit down while playing. :P
@Roligyilok
@Roligyilok 13 лет назад
Leather sticks for this part of Beethoven 9th????Are you crazy???
@funkfactor1
@funkfactor1 13 лет назад
fabulous player, does look like mr myagi from karate kid though!
@Jetgui22
@Jetgui22 12 лет назад
@Regginyaga so modern music is good for you? hah! now that sucks!
@jemimalamb78
@jemimalamb78 12 лет назад
right..I dont play the Timpani and even i know that its difficult to master....are you a muscian?
@anastasijaredzic8649
@anastasijaredzic8649 11 лет назад
But i have dear sir, but i have...People now sit, even when they dont have to. To each his own, i'm sorry if i have offended you.
@tommytimp
@tommytimp 11 лет назад
Good luck if you have no ear.
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