Lucas Botkin & John Lovell Discuss Industry Trouble, Changes at T.Rex & Why He Drew His EDC 

"The tighter the jeans, the tighter the groupings" -Administrative Results😂

I love how John the entire interview is just always trying to get him to be his friend

This is the most I've ever seen Lucas smile.

It’s important that I can watch a video with my young son watching over my shoulder and not have to worry about bad language and inappropriate comments. This is why I’m a fan of WPS, T,Rex and Hailey Strategic. God Bless.

Brothers don’t shake hands, brothers hug! - Tommy Boy

"Have you pulled the goalie" KILLED me! 🤣Great interview gents!

Smiling Lucas premiering on WPS.

These are my two favorite guys on RU-vid, and seeing them doing an interview together makes me happier than I’ve been in months 😆

Two minutes in and I’m dying….”if you’re a bird then I’m a bird” 😂😂

Awesome interview; 35:58 Lovell to Lucas "Are you on the spectrum?" I almost fell out of my chair laughing! '

This by far is one of my favorite interviews from the 2A community on YT! It did not seem fake or pretentious like so many other interviews on social media. It really vibrated genuine comradery and brotherhood, and was funny too! God bless you guys, and God bless America!

My Favorite part is how wholesome this is.

I was adopted and I'll forever be grateful that I was given a chance at life by my birth mother and adoptive family.

1:01:58 when Lucas accidently directly quotes the Joker. "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message." Lol

This should have been a 4+ hour interview! This was great! God bless! 🙏🏼🇺🇲

You 2 were the most influential on me growing up as a younger man. WPS and Trex has gone a long way in shaping my ideology and philosophy as a man. Really matured not just personally, but spiritually, professionally, and in the gun world as well. I have encountered a lot of success in my life lately, and you all and the community certainly helped that. Keep up the great work guys!

Just want to say as a son trying to become the 4th generation in a family business that is about 120 years old, and trying to become a partner with my brother. I really take so much inspiration from the Botkin story.

Thank You LUCAS! You guys (Trex Arms) helped me get back into the 2A community after my house fire last year! We lost everything. I would still be struggling to get kit if it wasn't for the trex team. I am extremly gretful and I can't thank you guys enough!

It makes my heart all warm and fuzzy to see a homeschool kid (with a touch of the tisim) grow up and be so successful. 😊

I have to say I didn't like Lucas for a while, but he has grown on me. I now have a lot of respect for him and his company

Two best Christian 2A “influencers”. Keep up the good work both of you. Our country needs more men like the both of you. Let’s go Brandon!

I have tremendous respect for Lucas, Isaac, and all of the people at TRex Arms. Their company motto is “Equipping Serious Citizens” which is awesome. From putting up free training content on their website to creating high-quality gear, they live up to that goal day in and day out. They’re also heavily involved in local politics, which is something many of us neglect in our own lives. We have to be prepared for the worst while doing everything we can within the system to save this country from barreling off the cliff.

31 years in my marriage. 35 years of knowing each other. We are still learning and evolving together. It is awesome!

I was in catholic school for 10 years and you two discussing Matthew 18 in dealing with conflict is more useful and memorable than all of my religion classes. I haven’t gone to church or studied the Bible in over a decade and I love the discussions. Your thoughtfulness and integrity are rare and admirable.

Man these two should collab more. I want to see the story development when Lucas caves to being Johns friend

lol the fact that John quoted the notebook makes me love him even more 🤣🤣🤣

CLEARLY, you should both be running for office. Even just for a single term. You WILL make a positive impact on this country. Great episode! Thank you.

Trex and warrior poet society. What a duo

This conversation is why I have such massive respect for both of you and for what you each have built. I regard you as my brothers and allies. As such, thank you for this conversation. It gives me hope.

We need more of this in not only the 2A community but in the world. Great interview guys. John I just want you to be my friend dangit!!

This is one of the most energetic versions of lucas i have ever seen. Yall really make a good duo, more content together would be cool

I could see myself getting along with Lucas. Same age, play video games, shoot guns, some fellowship too. Great interview guys

2 guys that I highly respect in the same interview. Much love and respect to both of you.

I notice how remotely compitent homeschooled kids who are ushered into adult hood in a good way all seem (even in my own life, thinking back to most of the home schoolers who I met in highschool, college and after) to become socially potent leaders. The lack of being ordered under social norms gives a real solid back bone.

THANK YOU BOTH!! Super Great getting to know you. Really appreciate this

Always refreshing to hear from Lucas Botkin and John Lovell. Their insights into the challenges and changes within the firearms industry are invaluable.

Hey John and Lucas, I have never commented on a RU-vid video, but feel compelled after your discussion on adoption. We finalized our first adoption last month and I will say that our experience was very different, yet at the same time, along the same lines as John described. State to state there are differences, but the largest variances lie in the different agencies and/or attorneys who assist with the process. I would encourage every Christian couple to entertain the idea of adoption or fostering, and in asking around at their churches and communities, you will unearth the good and bad agencies/attorneys pretty easily. I would also not let the financial aspect scare a couple away. For example, with the agency we used, there was a flat fee well below what John described, and that covered you whether there were several “fake outs” or whether you got a placement in the first month. In addition, there are many grants available, and I think if you are not in a position to adopt, you should at least think about donating to a reputable org. If each “pro life”conservative gun owner would donate one Glock’s value to an adoption agency you would see the change you both are wishing for. Adoption is life changing and not just for the baby. You will find your whole world upside down in a good way and your priorities will never be the same again. Thank you both for your discussion and may God bless you both.

Brothers don't shake hands, Brothers gotta hug! Man I miss Chris Farley.

Lucas, I'm almost 48. I have a four year old and a one year old. You're NOT too old to have kids!!! I'm not suggesting to wait, but don't shut the door on that option. It's the greatest blessing Ever!!!

Pure gold. Start to finish. Thanks for doing this

2 of my favorite guntubers.. Good stuff.

Already saw this on WPSN but commenting for the algorithm! Great interview, love these two dudes!

To see you two do an interview is awesome! Much respect to both of you for the contributions you have made for the 2A community.

Man, I needed this. It's probably the most opened up that I've seen Lucas be, and I've been loving this interview series.

the team up we all knew we needed

I appreciate you both more through the experience of watching this video. Keep being the Salt and the Light. I feel your pain around finding good friendships Lucas.

So cool this happened. Two of my favorite guys on RU-vid. Thank you both.

I seriously have such a huge respect for people like Lucas. He has kept true to his original vision and kept true to his morals while being super successful with his company over all these years. Well done!

It’s so cool to see real believers be this successful and have this great of a platform and not be ashamed to speak about their faith. You guys are both legends in the industry and are the kind of people that the 2A community needs to follow. You can tell that they’re genuine and just humble guys. Love to see it.

Would be cool to see more content of you two. Respect 👍🏻

Great respect to both of these guys.

Great conversation from the two of you guys!!! Two persons down to earth and very humbled about how much they know about 2A. Congrats boys and God bless you always!!!

John and Lucas most down to earth dudes on internet. Great guys and patriots.

The beard helps John. Thank God he grew it back.

Resurrection - best answer i could not think of

This was very interesting! Glad to see these two guys chatting. I sure hope Lucas watches this back and took away a lot from this conversation. John, you handled this interview amazingly well!

Two of my favorite guntubers. Great collab!👍👊🇺🇸

Great conversation. Rising tides rise all ships!!

Man I love how this collab finally happened

One of my favorite interviews of all time.

This is great, my 2 favorite gun-tubers.

There is so much good in people. Christlike love (including Christlike correction) is the number 1 way to improve the industry. (Not to mention ourselves.)

So much wisdom from these two! Love these guys!

This was pure gold! Big thanks 🙏

49:18 “I fired him right after 🗿” maaan John had to hold his comments back 😂😂

Freakin love John Lovell

One of the best RU-vid videos I’ve ever watched!!! Thank you.

Already commented earlier, before I watched the video. Now that I've watched it, THANK YOU John for having Lucas on. Ive been watching his content since he started, and same with yours. Cheers to both of you 🇺🇸

These two are my favorite people! Wish I could meet you guys in person

1:33 That look when Lucas says he wants a hug :)

Great stuff! Really glad y’all made this happen.

I dont think I have ever seen Lucas this relaxed before.

The shot timer for milking the cow's.. very funny!

Having been part of an adoptive family, it still breaks my heart that my folks had the chance to provide a loving, stable home to a child in need yanked away not once, but twice. I am so sad for the children being adopted out through the "state solution" when the state sanctioned foster care system is such a mess and, by their own admission, is more rife with abuse than any private organization in history.

I've been involved in a few family businesses, and my rule about who to go into business with is: Never go into business with someone whose feelings you're afraid to hurt. Great interview, John! Keep doing what you do best. 💪

Honestly, an absolutely knockout podcast. My mom who does not love guns got this as a recommendation tour from me because it’s candid questions with candid answers about running a business with family. Absolutely wonderful.

John definitely was an influence in converting me to homeschooling my children.

Literally my two favorite people in the entire gun industry. Love it.

I Love the faith driven company leadership. Great opportunity to disciple to many. Both of you and your businesses are a great example for us all.

I already appreciated these dudes and this was fantastic. Thank you gents

The legendary interview we've all been waiting for.

Two of the better folks on the Tube for sure ! Excellent

Been waiting for this pair up for a long time now!!

I'm a Volunteer and the Botkins are a force for good in this State! Keep up the good work Lucas and Bros!

Lucas - "I've never seen the notebook, but I know it's overrated." John (making direct eye contact with Lucas) - "If you are a bird...I'm a bird." 😂

2 powerhouses in the same room! The Warrior Poet Trex team up! Epic!

These are my two favorite people in one video. This is awesome

Great questions and also,great answers. You two guys are great people.

My wife said this is like watching Tolkein and Lewis. Both pairs are the most influential philosopher entertainers of their culture. I said this on WPSN, but felt it was worth putting here too.

John talking about how to disagree on things was definitely what he tried to do with Tim Kennedy. He really gave the platform to lovingly help Tim out of the hole he dug himself into.

Thank you John

What a great video. Excellent conversation between two exceptional leaders in the industry.

You should get a smaller table, John! :)

Imagining Kid Lucas walking around chugging monsters and hitting A zones (pissed off at B zones) is hilarious Edited: C Zone

I love seeing you two in this format! So funny!

Love it glad to see Lucas

I got the notification!

Go Branden!

My respect for you John, just increases every day. Hold the line brother!

Love this. You both were how I got started with training. Very appreciative. God Bless.