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Luka Doncic is NOT a better offensive player than Kevin Durant 🗣 - Stephen A. | First Take
Stephen A. Smith and Chris “Mad Dog” Russo debate whether Luka Doncic is the best offensive player in the NBA.
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@StanleyMabonga
@StanleyMabonga 2 года назад
Offence isn't just scoring. Creating open looks for your teammates is also offence. KD can't do what Luka does for others.
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 2 года назад
Luka cant score like kd without holding ball and stopping ball movement.
@deeztruckz2430
@deeztruckz2430 2 года назад
He's now slowly figuring out how to involve his teammates. His usage rate is still really high,and he's very ball dominant. It would be amazing if the Mavs could get a shooter like Klay Thompson,and a decent big they'd be a huge problem.
@brysongraves2202
@brysongraves2202 2 года назад
@@deeztruckz2430 i honestly think gobert is a good fit for dallas. luka will actually be able to get him the ball on offense unlike his current teammates
@skies44
@skies44 2 года назад
I was just about to type that! Yes sir
@weinaracewarandslaverystar3408
@weinaracewarandslaverystar3408 2 года назад
Lol after the first 4 games of the suns series, everyone was saying luka is wayyy too ball dominant and now because they beat the suns he’s this great distributor,those are cheap assist, those are not rondo assist, or j Kidd type assist, it comes from hogging the ball and finally passing it when you get double teamed, that doesn’t make you a great passer
@mercisadiki
@mercisadiki 2 года назад
I don't think you can force Luka into going 1-10 or keeping him under 20 when it matters most...they did that to KD. In more than one game. Just saying
@twitchplazmagr5941
@twitchplazmagr5941 2 года назад
Luka isn’t even 33 years old yet, whose to say he won’t in the future. It’s happened to a lot of all time greats like dwade and shaq and lebron in the playoffs
@nickb2486
@nickb2486 2 года назад
Luka played a choking suns team along with the Utah Jazz just wait till he plays a defense as suffocating as the Celtics he will fold and screw up his team because he won't be getting those open assists and will chuck up threes hoping to catch fire. He can score 20-30 all he wants, but he will lose his team the game everytime against the heat or the Celtics if they get past the warriors.
@Klocks420
@Klocks420 2 года назад
@@nickb2486 The Celtics haven't beaten Luka since 2019. Sit down lol
@thekingbradable
@thekingbradable 2 года назад
One thing Luka does very well scoring wise is take advantage of mismatches. He never misses those opportunities
@jeyj4372
@jeyj4372 2 года назад
@@nickb2486 Both team Luka played against are top 7 in defense this year 😂. Next excuses
@xaviermiller2940
@xaviermiller2940 2 года назад
Offense is more than scoring. All Stephen A cares about is how good someone jumper & handle looks lol. Passing, playmaking, pace is all apart of offense. KD may be a better scorer than Luka (but even that is debatable because Luka scores just as much & just as easily) but Luka is a much better offensive player.
@JustAguy25548
@JustAguy25548 2 года назад
@Risankd is an overrated scorer Lmao
@TheDiegoo17
@TheDiegoo17 2 года назад
Luka has a better handle
@duvaltilwedie904
@duvaltilwedie904 2 года назад
@Risan better passer only? Bro he runs the pick and roll amazingly, he hunts the opposing teams best player, averages more rebounds and assist and points for the playoffs and a career lmao so what are you talking about “better passer only”? Stop playing 2k you and Stephen A love them pull up shots til they get you swept in the first round.
@georgevenues4066
@georgevenues4066 2 года назад
That's because Stephen A is a casual alongside with the 80% of the people watching ball.
@wendigosdfgwsedrf1297
@wendigosdfgwsedrf1297 2 года назад
facts and Luka's handle is much better
@skii7602
@skii7602 2 года назад
Steven A. again with the KD meat riding
@juyahmad
@juyahmad 2 года назад
He loves to protect his husband
@jordancarroll1217
@jordancarroll1217 2 года назад
@@juyahmad 🤣🤣🤣
@harv2211
@harv2211 2 года назад
The meat riding never stops with this man
@datsapaddlin6449
@datsapaddlin6449 2 года назад
Kevin Durant is definitely better at gettin swept in the first round with another all star level player 🧹
@user-nl4cn1ew4w
@user-nl4cn1ew4w 2 года назад
There's such a bias against non American players, it's actually pathetic.
@fthenonasian3505
@fthenonasian3505 2 года назад
You are 1 million % correct. It always about black American. Not even white American.
@user-nl4cn1ew4w
@user-nl4cn1ew4w 2 года назад
@@fthenonasian3505 nah because giannis still gets disrespected to this day
@therealbiggiemcez7396
@therealbiggiemcez7396 2 года назад
@@fthenonasian3505 It's not even a racial thing, it's a national thing. Perkins just the other day was pinning for "when is an American player going to take the MVP race personal?" in reference to Jokic, Embiid, and Giannis leading the MVP convo all year.
@masoncharette4206
@masoncharette4206 2 года назад
I know right, Luka Doncic is the best player in the league by far
@onfoenemgrave5034
@onfoenemgrave5034 2 года назад
@@masoncharette4206 no he isn't lol he ain't better than giannis
@AirParker23
@AirParker23 2 года назад
SAS is so biased against international players it’s ridiculous lol.
@MattTheDreamer7199
@MattTheDreamer7199 2 года назад
White*
@dizzy8175
@dizzy8175 2 года назад
He's not biased against Giannis, who is an international player. He's just biased against white players.
@AirParker23
@AirParker23 2 года назад
@@dizzy8175 nah he refuses to admit Giannis is better than KD when it’s pretty clear he is
@dhuman9321
@dhuman9321 2 года назад
It’s more complicated that that, but the simplified version is, “Yes. And both. But then…” He downplays Giannis. (Who is the best all around, overall player.) He ignores Jokic. (Who is the best all around, offensive player - better than either Luka, KD, Giannis, whoever.) He promotes Embiid… *unless* there’s a LeBron>Ja>KD>DeMar>Booker/CP3>Steph>Luka(i.e.LeBron-lite)>etc that better fits his “type” and is giving him pretext to promote ahead of even the most media-appreciative & alluring of non-[fully in-group] domestics… *until* there’s a scapegoat like Simmons/Harden he can turn his actual attention, passion and “skill” towards. It’s weird until it’s not. Then it’s just sad. With how predictable it and the pattern is. And how ugly it compounds, in so many who’re influenced by his platform and (mis)use of it.
@thejeangenie100
@thejeangenie100 2 года назад
I mean..after everything he's achieved, you'd hope that ESPN hosts could say Luka's name properly
@Carlosspamm
@Carlosspamm 2 года назад
I love KD, but playmaking doesn’t count as an offensive skill??
@alexdorisca
@alexdorisca 2 года назад
It does, but regular folks tend to ignore that offense includes playmaking/rebounding/making your teammates better.
@thekingbradable
@thekingbradable 2 года назад
It does, which is why KD isn’t the best offensive player
@Carlosspamm
@Carlosspamm 2 года назад
@@alexdorisca yeah man, every time Stephen A Smith talks about KD he never mentions that. I honestly think Luka and Jokic are better offensive players than KD bc with them alone you can have a good team offense.
@alexdorisca
@alexdorisca 2 года назад
@@Carlosspamm I agree with you wholeheartedly.
@alexdorisca
@alexdorisca 2 года назад
@@thekingbradable facts. I got LeBron in Year 19 as a better offensive player than KD if not the best right now. Jokic and Luka are right there with him too.
@sergiomorfin5956
@sergiomorfin5956 2 года назад
He’s definitely a way better passer than Durant will ever be. And Luka doesn’t jump from team to team like a homie hopper.
@joeltaylor2321
@joeltaylor2321 2 года назад
What does changing teams have to deal with skill? Get Lukas nuts out your mouth
@boosyturnred
@boosyturnred 2 года назад
It’s only his 4th year eventually he might leave if they can’t win a title
@sergiomorfin5956
@sergiomorfin5956 2 года назад
@@boosyturnred He will be a Mav his whole career and will win at least 1 tittle he’s already so good rookie year 20 5 5 only lebron and jordan have ever done it both have rings
@boosyturnred
@boosyturnred 2 года назад
@@sergiomorfin5956 apparently this guy can predict Lukas future , bravo 👏
@leetraviusmckay2.066
@leetraviusmckay2.066 2 года назад
@@sergiomorfin5956 lmao how tf do you know if he will stay a Mav his whole career? Everyone thought the exact same about KD with OKC in 2014-16 yet he left, we dont know what the future holds
@treyzzz33
@treyzzz33 2 года назад
Stephen a been meat riding KD since mama Durant put him in check 😂🤡
@victorsullivan9107
@victorsullivan9107 2 года назад
Luka is the only guy who’s an easy choice for top 5 scorer and top 5 playmaker. There isn’t a shot Luka can’t make, and there isn’t a pass he can’t make either. He might not be an efficient at scoring as KD, but he’s in another Galaxy as far as playmaking is concerned.
@lord4806
@lord4806 2 года назад
LeBron definitely. LeBron is an top 5 all time scorer and playmaker. James did his thing in the 00s, 10s and 20s without the highest usage rate in nba history like mj or Luka have. Lets not forget that.
@bigsmall2842
@bigsmall2842 2 года назад
Lebron. But I agree Luka is right there.
@teelee4097
@teelee4097 2 года назад
To exclude Luka's dad LeBron is blasphemous! Turn in your NBA fan card immediately.
@Fiverr7890
@Fiverr7890 2 года назад
Did Jokic die?
@cp3190
@cp3190 2 года назад
He's more efficient than KD in the playoffs so far in his career. And thats including the years KD played with the warriors where he was getting far more open looks than the rest of his career. KD without the warrors is a below average 3pt shooter in the playoffs.
@billpap.9669
@billpap.9669 2 года назад
Luka is the best offensive player in the world. Harden has fallen off drastically, KD showed that he's mortal in the Celtics series and Steph is just not as efficient as he once was nor as versatile offensively as Luka.
@leeroyuckface6893
@leeroyuckface6893 2 года назад
You'll be saying something different this series...you guys are prisoners of the moment
@philw8080
@philw8080 2 года назад
KD showed teams win championships, not superstars. 10 silver hands is always better than 2 gold ones. KD never passes the ball once its in his hands 9/10 times. Only reason he won in GSW is because the ball is only in his hands if Curry/Klay don't have a shot and they need KD to pull an isolation move or he's part of the catch-and-shoot 3's triangle, but the ball is always in Draymonds hands and Draymond doesn't hold the ball to shoot. Also, Draymond > Kyrie as a facilitator and defensive presence. Teams shouldn't need more than 1 iso player if any at all.
@unisensei260
@unisensei260 2 года назад
He won two series and now he's Jordan to yall clowns
@jcw180
@jcw180 2 года назад
Luka is good, but the best player in the world is currently Giannis. In both offensive and defensive end. Theres just no way. Hope the Mavs burry GSW btw.
@brandonroque2226
@brandonroque2226 2 года назад
@@unisensei260 you gotta give him props at his age doing what he's doing.
@JaydenFuller
@JaydenFuller 2 года назад
KD is a great scorer and easily the most dynamic especially at his height, but offense means more than just scoring or how pretty it is. It’s playmaking, your ability to dominate matchups, controlling pace and being able to affect the floor offensively without scoring. Jokic, Giannis, and Luka are all better offensive players than KD.
@wwebigfanfan
@wwebigfanfan 2 года назад
Bruh you smoking loud
@rah6229
@rah6229 2 года назад
Lmao just scoring 💀 35 10 and 5 against Milwaukee la at year by himself but Alr 😭
@aaronmichaelc.7482
@aaronmichaelc.7482 2 года назад
Y’all clearly don’t know what offense is .
@him2674
@him2674 2 года назад
giannis just isnt as complete imo
@kennethbrooks5157
@kennethbrooks5157 2 года назад
@@wwebigfanfan ong
@thethommonator2378
@thethommonator2378 2 года назад
Boston just put the *clamps* on KD when it really mattered, multiple times, while the 64 win Suns watched Luka cook them so bad they couldn’t outscore him put together and let him sit the 4th. I know who I’d be picking to run my offence right now
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 2 года назад
The Suns aint the Warriors though. Everybody knew that they'd only gotten to the finals due to injuries last year.
@ismaelsaga
@ismaelsaga 2 года назад
KD put them (Boston to sleep) last year averg 32.6 pts and 7 reb. and then we all recall his perf against giannis so please stop it the guy is simply the best
@jimsmith5250
@jimsmith5250 2 года назад
@@ismaelsaga bro I figured it out😭 they just really be waiting for kd to lose so they can say”see he not better than them” which is crazy to me how easily they forget we beat them 4-1 last year🤦🏽‍♂️
@joeljohnson6137
@joeljohnson6137 2 года назад
@@ismaelsaga KD had Kyrie an Harden last year while Tatum had only Smart because Brown an Kemba was hurt
@lolwtf9267
@lolwtf9267 2 года назад
@@ismaelsaga Yeah cause KD can only win when Brown and Kemba are injured
@hottakes2633
@hottakes2633 2 года назад
KD looked pretty mortal when Boston decided to double him. Luka is quite literally the most doubled player in the NBA (legit stat, look it up). He thrives in those situations bc he’s an elite passer/playmaker.
@markreadin7124
@markreadin7124 2 года назад
Luka more doubled than Curry? What are the numbers
@erickhines4121
@erickhines4121 2 года назад
Curry gets double & triple teamed
@nikhilchaudhary9389
@nikhilchaudhary9389 2 года назад
@@markreadin7124 Luka is double teamed 27 times per 100 possession. Second is Ja with 24. Steph gets doubles teamed 20 times per 100 possession. Luka was the most double teamed player last season too.
@coops1992
@coops1992 2 года назад
Kevin Durant is old and past his prime. Luka is the best offensive all around player right now.
@markreadin7124
@markreadin7124 2 года назад
@@nikhilchaudhary9389 False...
@Klocks420
@Klocks420 2 года назад
Luka is a way better offensive player than Kevin Durant. Offense isn't just scoring, can KD beat you with just his passing? No. Can Luka? Absolutely.
@KyRiAkOsTheGreaT2
@KyRiAkOsTheGreaT2 2 года назад
Exactly , if we talking about strictly shooting then i get it but when we talking about an offensive player it has more than just shooting and playmaking is one of them
@jamanwashington6426
@jamanwashington6426 2 года назад
Said the same about thing comparison with lbj vs kd. Overall talent same thing about lbj vs mj. Scoring is not just the art of offensive in badketball
@ryanlambert1265
@ryanlambert1265 Год назад
put down the drugs 😂
@port6834
@port6834 2 года назад
In terms of Offence: Luka is a better post player, better ball handler, better at controlling the pace, better off the double team and obviously a better passer. Not to mention that he is already a better leader than Durant. I would also argue that Luka is more clutch than KD. Really the only thing KD is better than Luka is at shooting. That said, on his day, Luka is just as impactful. I completely disagree with the idea that KD is a better offensive player than Luka.
@MrRglas
@MrRglas 2 года назад
Another problem with KD is his size, he's too skinny. If you push KD you'll find him outside of the arena.
@999WRLDGAMING.
@999WRLDGAMING. 2 года назад
Did u really just say Luka is a better post player? KD's post fadeaway is far superior than Luka's. How is he a better leader? What has he lead them to? Lets see him make a finals first before we get ahead of ourselves. Luka actually plays point and dominates the ball yet only averages 2 more assist. KD is better at scoring in general not just shooting. KD has a handle too but doesn't have to use it as much cause he just rises for his shot. Luka hasn't shot 50% yet. He's not as efficient.
@mikalgangmark
@mikalgangmark 2 года назад
@@999WRLDGAMING. tell me the time Durant carried a team full of nobody’s to the western conference final , I’ll wait. And the only time he won anything was when he went to a STACKED team. Durant have always had 1-2 superstars to ride a long with him, if they swapped teams I’m not sure Mavs are in the playoffs
@scottmason5628
@scottmason5628 2 года назад
@@MrRglas I laughed out loud. That was good.
@port6834
@port6834 2 года назад
@@999WRLDGAMING. I will take your point about KD having an elite Post Fade. But I would still argue that Luka has better footwork and can even bully people in the post. Luka can give you both power and finesse. In terms of leadership, did you not just watch the previous series? Luka just beat the # 1 team in the NBA & the reigning Western Conference champion. Not to mention he makes those around him better. At the very least, Luka is on the same level as KD from a leadership point of view. Lastly, regarding him being inefficient, that is fair right now. But at the same time, that has a lot to do with the fact that he plays on a less talented team, and thus it is easier to double him.
@KingKeno777
@KingKeno777 2 года назад
Stephen A just can't give props to the White Boy, keep hating 🤡
@Andrezseventeen17
@Andrezseventeen17 2 года назад
Or he's just not. Has nothing to do with that he's white.
@KingKeno777
@KingKeno777 2 года назад
@@Andrezseventeen17 Sure it doesn't.
@Anthonycheesman33
@Anthonycheesman33 2 года назад
It’s more to do with him hating any none American player .
@kermdafro
@kermdafro 2 года назад
SAS wiff'd on Doncic when he was drafted. That's what this hate is all about. SAS keeps fallen from the ugly, idiot tree on Luka.
@shalom8858
@shalom8858 2 года назад
@bee sweez how much food stamps you get a month boy
@162iceguy
@162iceguy 2 года назад
Kevin Ducant is watching the games just like everyone else. When Ducant wasn’t playing with a made team he always came up short.
@Fabian6980
@Fabian6980 2 года назад
Okc was made for him too Westbrook and harden were there he just sucks at winning
@chuckplaysgames7925
@chuckplaysgames7925 2 года назад
Durant*
@162iceguy
@162iceguy 2 года назад
@@chuckplaysgames7925 That was intentional buddy
@sbj97
@sbj97 2 года назад
@@162iceguy 😂😂😂
@izaakwilliams8017
@izaakwilliams8017 2 года назад
And Luka was the last 4 years. If Luka suffers a significant injury, you will sound like Kanye west. When it all falls down. Luka is playing greatly this season; however, it is much too early to call him a great player.
@wildeslothe5475
@wildeslothe5475 2 года назад
Stephen A. You don't give us no Luka Dončik. Give us Dončić. Must be so hard to memorize this.
@s36430
@s36430 2 года назад
He says it on purpose 100%
@soul2squeezy439
@soul2squeezy439 2 года назад
We're talkIng about Kevin DurSwept? 😭
@zacharygodfrey874
@zacharygodfrey874 2 года назад
Luka will score just as much as KD and is a way better playmaker
@Jaccobtw
@Jaccobtw 2 года назад
KD is more efficient though
@whynot3111
@whynot3111 2 года назад
@@Jaccobtw did you watch him he choked
@xredgreenbluex
@xredgreenbluex 2 года назад
@@Jaccobtw Not in the playoffs
@carterervin
@carterervin 2 года назад
@@whynot3111 it’s one series. KD literally has a whole career of putting in work.
@surafelf
@surafelf 2 года назад
@@carterervin Lost 3-1 against warriors
@onidtubes
@onidtubes 2 года назад
KD doesnt bully anyone the way Doncic has been bullying everyone offensively in the league.
@Jac.iezaki
@Jac.iezaki 2 года назад
U just started watching nba this season huh😂
@onidtubes
@onidtubes 2 года назад
@@Jac.iezaki no, but KD was never this scary on offense like Luka. And KD always had an all star playing alongside him.
@philw8080
@philw8080 2 года назад
Doncic is the second coming of LeBron James. KD can will buckets, but he can't will victories. LeBron can and Luka can with just a decent team around them. Luka can facilitate and still drop 30 points. You translate all of Luka' assists (minimum 10) to 2 points, that's like 50 points him just being on the court. Durant gets you 30, its usually like 3 assists. Quite honestly Luka is going to be better than LeBron, LeBron still needed to hand pick his team or have a second star. Luka is taking the Mavs to the WCF with a buncha role players. If Mavs beat GSW (tall task), I will take back everything I said about Morant should be the face on the NBA and give that back to Luka.
@onidtubes
@onidtubes 2 года назад
@@philw8080 He will be better. I don't remember Lebron shooting the ball like Luka at age 23. The kid shoot turnaround three point fadeaways , it's ridiculous.
@1jaythefinessa
@1jaythefinessa 2 года назад
@@onidtubes lmao 🤣 y’all just be talking. Luka defense is nowhere near Lebrons was or ever be.
@LukeCage1015
@LukeCage1015 2 года назад
Kevin Durant don’t hit the same when homie couldn’t even get ONE GAME off the Celtics WITH KYRIE and Giannis is taking them to game 7 w/o Middleton
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 2 года назад
The same guy you're praising was taken to 7 games by KD without Kyrie. The Celtics swept the Nets because of terrible coaching and the Celtics coach had insider knowledge on the Nets, as he'd been their assistant coach JUST last season.
@albaptiste8691
@albaptiste8691 2 года назад
@@smoothsavage2870 the nets still had the better team
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 2 года назад
@@albaptiste8691 The Nets had the better team and the Celtics had the better coach.
@coops1992
@coops1992 2 года назад
Kevin Durant is old and past his prime. Luka is the best offensive all around player right now.
@GoldenWind30
@GoldenWind30 2 года назад
Giannis & Luka could possibly be in the top 10 of all-time.
@markreadin7124
@markreadin7124 2 года назад
They will both pass KD all time, Giannis definitely will
@tylerwest3161
@tylerwest3161 2 года назад
@@markreadin7124 Giannis already better all time then KD
@De3dSh0t
@De3dSh0t 2 года назад
one day, people will learn the correct way to pronounce Luka's last name
@giorgoslolos9132
@giorgoslolos9132 2 года назад
Man can we stop bringing up the 2 championships KD won when we compare him with other players.We can talk about his skills but lets stop this hes a champion nonsense,any top 10 player would be a champion if he joined that team
@superteamvideo1930
@superteamvideo1930 Год назад
Warriors would've won with ANY decent player.
@wendigosdfgwsedrf1297
@wendigosdfgwsedrf1297 2 года назад
KD got clamped by entire Celtics cuz his handle is not good enough and his passing is not good enough Luka would never get clamped like that cuz he can go anywhere he wants on the court his handle is much better , his passing and basketball IQ is much better and his footwork is better with all that said KD is not even better scorer than Luka , scoring is not just shooting over someone. Luka can beat you in WAY MORE different ways offensively
@ohappy6762o
@ohappy6762o 2 года назад
Respectfully Luka cannot beat you in more ways scoring wise than KD lets not go there lol but i hear what ur saying about his handles and passing ability
@wendigosdfgwsedrf1297
@wendigosdfgwsedrf1297 2 года назад
@@ohappy6762o He can Luka is much better finisher at the rim and he can drive anytime he wants he led the league in drives last season and his footwork and post game is better and those things are very significant when it comes to scoring
@DJ-ll9hv
@DJ-ll9hv 2 года назад
Why does no one give Steph props? What other 6’3” player is doing what Steph does? Most of the greats are 6’6” or better so height really makes a difference in the NBA but the fact that Steph’s resume is stacked means something.
@davidbollmann4356
@davidbollmann4356 2 года назад
“Prisoners of the moment” is the best way to describe the media
@sportspsp
@sportspsp 2 года назад
For once, Mad Dog Russo no doubt beat Stephen A on a 🏀 topic.
@Nikketmzee
@Nikketmzee 2 года назад
For once ? Please.
@sportspsp
@sportspsp 2 года назад
@@Nikketmzee whatever, dude
@Nikketmzee
@Nikketmzee 2 года назад
@@sportspsp acting like Stephen A is this basketball guru, Biggs been wrong most of the time just feelings from him
@sportspsp
@sportspsp 2 года назад
@@Nikketmzee compared to a Mad Dog Russo, Stephen A is a genius
@mercisadiki
@mercisadiki 2 года назад
Stephen A is talking about how BK was tied for the best record before all the drama, yet after what Luka did to the suns we are reminded that what you do in the regular season means nothing come playoff time. With load Luka has to carry by himself you don't think he should be fatigued? I don't want to hear it...
@rah6229
@rah6229 2 года назад
Bro stop luka had wayyy more help than Durant did this season
@jacksonnfokolong4109
@jacksonnfokolong4109 2 года назад
Stephen A. still trying to defend Durant. If that was LeBron we wouldnt be hearing about regular season and fatigue. He'd have agreed with Perk that he got punked
@Zec123ify
@Zec123ify 2 года назад
@@rah6229only irving should be enough for "big" durant, on dalas there is noone , not even close to irving 0 all start players. stop it and go back to school
@shyboom8529
@shyboom8529 2 года назад
You don’t need star players to win. The Mavericks have a strong overall team. The Nets only had two players who could show. The Mavericks have had multiple guys have incredible games during the playoffs. Bruson had incredible games against the Jazz. That’s help. Spencer had big games. So did Dorian Findley smith. Luka had other players show up for him. Also the Mavericks played the Jazz. And the suns would have still lost game 7 if Luka had zero points. It wasn’t like he was playing stellar defense. If you actually watched basketball you’d know Luka has had help from everyone on his team. It’s been a miracle run for them
@mercisadiki
@mercisadiki 2 года назад
@@rah6229 name a supporting player on the Mavs better than Kyrie. He had him all playoffs so...
@JesseVealIII
@JesseVealIII 2 года назад
I love how ppl are trying to down play Luka's supporting cast. Way better roster than the last 1-3 seasons.
@lolwtf9267
@lolwtf9267 2 года назад
It's the same roster apart from Bullock and Dinwiddie
@MrBravoMusic
@MrBravoMusic 2 года назад
Man… how quickly everyone forgets. KD is a beast.
@devrim4928
@devrim4928 2 года назад
Are we gonna talk about the variations on how they are pronouncing the man's name lol?
@taepro64
@taepro64 2 года назад
If we're talking about scoring then yes KD>Luka. But offense isn't just scoring.
@qdamusiq5006
@qdamusiq5006 2 года назад
If only thing you got is passing , foh
@Ronreaxt
@Ronreaxt 2 года назад
Bro keep it a rack there’s players in The Nba Better than Kd
@joshuae4639
@joshuae4639 2 года назад
only one
@gondio447
@gondio447 2 года назад
"Luka Donkich" and "Luka Donchik". Funny how these people have been talking and writing about Luka every single day for 4 years and still don't care about saying his name correctly...
@UnknownPerson-ul1fn
@UnknownPerson-ul1fn 2 года назад
all I know is luka dismantled some of the best defenders in the league at that time.. kawhi, PG, pat bev, bridges... Gobert meanwhile KD, got destroyed by tatum and made him looked like an elite defender.... KD had the greenlight throughout his career, he had MVP teammates, superstar teammates that took away the defensive pressure... how can you leave steph and klay, how can you disregard westbrook, harden, kyrie... luka took all the pressure... mind you, luka is nearly averaging triple double == way better passer than KD... id say this again, luka is the modern day larry bird.. plays at their own pace and willing passers..
@BigTao
@BigTao 2 года назад
Kd has always played with mvp caliber point guards. Let’s see how kd does without one. Kd is a more efficient midrange scorer, but Luka plays with 1 dimensional borderline nba starters and still get it done.
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 2 года назад
The only MVP caliber PG he played with is Harden and Harden aint been that guy since 2018 and he relies heavily on FTs and not his actual game.
@haywood0457
@haywood0457 2 года назад
Luka has what KD doesnt and that is strength and playmaking ability.
@TheHezzii
@TheHezzii 2 года назад
I hate how they make it look like Luka beat the suns all by himself which is straight blasphemous, they make it seem like the 4 other players on the court didn’t score any points and were pretty much cones on defense like it was pretty much suns 5 v 1 Luka the entire game…
@ThePatman1980
@ThePatman1980 2 года назад
Luka has a higher playoff PPG than MJ. Mavs are winning the championship if Boston loses to Miami. Dallas are the only team beating healthy teams. They're not advancing by beating injured teams like the other 3 remaining teams.
@markreadin7124
@markreadin7124 2 года назад
No he doesn't.. small sample size inflates numbers too
@raheemwilson894
@raheemwilson894 2 года назад
@@markreadin7124 a lot of people had small sample sizes and didn’t put up the numbers like luka
@rashonhall794
@rashonhall794 2 года назад
I been saying he was fatigued but at the end of the day some of his turnovers was inexcusable. We’ll see how everything goes next year
@joeljohnson6137
@joeljohnson6137 2 года назад
Fatigued lol dude was out 2 months
@ianrobinson4200
@ianrobinson4200 2 года назад
And what does that have to do with anything? KD is sitting at home watching while Luka is playing
@Bro-yktv
@Bro-yktv 2 года назад
Yes he is a better “offensive player” he generates more points than kd. Kd could score 50 but luka could get 40, 12, 10.
@whereisthelambsauce7753
@whereisthelambsauce7753 2 года назад
Great point and with luka your offense is set for the whole game cuz he can control your offense for the ENTIRE game meanwhile with kd he gives you 35 or 40 points which is great but he dosen't have the same impact that Luka have in the offense
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 2 года назад
Luka's FG% is a lot lower than KD's. KD could get that with better efficiency.
@hashmanboxing6688
@hashmanboxing6688 2 года назад
KD had a 49 triple double you fool
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 2 года назад
@@hashmanboxing6688 How quickly they forget.
@lutilagoo167
@lutilagoo167 2 года назад
@@hashmanboxing6688 This KD slander is blasphemous lol. Just because KD and the Nets suck at constructing an organization doesn't diminish KDs abilities lol
@boosyturnred
@boosyturnred 2 года назад
scoring is scoring , which KD has that advantage. But an actually better offensive player is Luka bc he can score and pass the ball very well
@teetowart2254
@teetowart2254 2 года назад
the only problem with Stephen A.s argument is that KD was stopped offensively by Tatum this year, and Luka is basically playing with role players while KD had Kyrie
@Nate-1989
@Nate-1989 2 года назад
Stephen a you must not be watching the same NBA game that we are.
@manimal9871
@manimal9871 2 года назад
I disagree as an overall offensive player including playmaking Luka is already superior, he can penetrate and get to the rim at will and doesn’t rely on athleticism what so ever he is cerebral.
@bsexboy
@bsexboy 2 года назад
nah kd is
@levelhickbros
@levelhickbros 2 года назад
How is the biggest knock against KD “misguided loyalty to kyrie” and not “joined a 73-9 team”
@brandonroque2226
@brandonroque2226 2 года назад
You have to turn to intangibles when deciding who is better between two highly comparable players. Durant's intangibles are awful.
@jleww8959
@jleww8959 2 года назад
Why is SAS even bringing up KD lol
@Levi-wj6qo
@Levi-wj6qo 2 года назад
Mad: "Donk itch" SAS: "Don chick" 😂
@user-ew1xu4wq4k
@user-ew1xu4wq4k 2 года назад
Forget the playmaking, its about the amount of skill and footwork and movement to be able to create shots for yourself. KD with his height just needs to pull up and shoot. In terms of using technical ability to create shots, theres a whole lotta guys that are above him when it comes to offensive talent and scoring talent.
@toughmunths
@toughmunths 2 года назад
Fair point but KD being able to just pull up over people is talent in of its itself
@PikeRunner6
@PikeRunner6 2 года назад
Nah u stretched that u must not watch kd play because kd offensive arsenal is unmatched he has excellent footwork, and he definitely has the playmaking skills to create shots for himself
@user-ew1xu4wq4k
@user-ew1xu4wq4k 2 года назад
@@PikeRunner6 im not trying say he cant do it at all. he has great offensive talent and he can create shots and ofcourse has great footwork, but im saying his offensive arsenal is not as deep as other great great players. Thats not hate tho because he DOESNT need to have those extra moves and skills to create shots. He has an incredible advantage with his height and his handles to find his spot and score. We have to give credit that he has those handles and movement at that height, but that doesn’t mean his handles are movement are better than the other great scorers. What im saying is there are lots of players who didn’t have the advantage of having that height so they develop and use certain skills much more than KD. Otherwise Kareem is the greatest offensive talent ever. But no one says that. We look at players like MJ and Kobe and AI, because they had to develop and use so many diff skills and methods to create shots.
@PikeRunner6
@PikeRunner6 2 года назад
@@user-ew1xu4wq4k height doesn’t limit skill and kd is a great and all greats learn new moves to add to the arsenal so they’re game never stays the same, kd has equipped a fadeaway, he does dribble pull ups, he can take it to the racc or pull from curry range. He can do what kd Jordan or so can do
@WalterModel45
@WalterModel45 2 года назад
Yes Against Boston eas clear that KD doesn't creat his own shoots. Same thing with Curry. At last minutes ina game 7 aganist Cleveland 2016 he couldn't make a 3 against Kevin Love. He is too small for that. But he is a extraordinarie shooter and has crazy handeling and good court vision
@callmeshen9754
@callmeshen9754 2 года назад
Lmao, Offense is all the package including playmaking which will make your team BETTER it’s literally even more important than scoring 40. Doncic is clearly better than KD on offense stop that.
@GenkinTheGoat
@GenkinTheGoat 2 года назад
I see a lot of comments siding with Luka because offence isn’t just scoring. I agree. I just don’t see this same energy when people compare LeBron to other players… 🧐
@felixhug6503
@felixhug6503 2 года назад
Actually LB and Luka are in many ways quite similar. Bron is more athletic, but Luka has found his own way to dominate in similar fashion.
@loookaroundyou
@loookaroundyou 2 года назад
CP3 and KD have similar reputations of coming up small under pressure. (They both are also beloved by the media.) It's not just about putting up stats, it's the big moments, getting the job done and elevating your teammates. Luka seems to be making a name for himself in rising to the occasion. Belief is a big one for bringing out the best in your teammates. He seems to be inspiring belief in his teammates. Giannis is another. LeBron has kind of a mixed record, I'd say.
@mikem8230
@mikem8230 2 года назад
He might not have Durants skills…but he has 10x the heart and “killer” mentality
@joshuapowell1092
@joshuapowell1092 2 года назад
He has no championships no MVPs y'all hyping one series
@Wumbology10
@Wumbology10 2 года назад
@@joshuapowell1092 Fr
@jordanbrownlee7667
@jordanbrownlee7667 2 года назад
@@joshuapowell1092 kd got swept in first round. Stfu
@carterervin
@carterervin 2 года назад
@@joshuapowell1092 facts
@de-graftasafo-adjei4646
@de-graftasafo-adjei4646 2 года назад
@@joshuapowell1092 You just dont watch him
@renzodelprado5828
@renzodelprado5828 2 года назад
I get that he can do almost everything in the offensive side of the ball but he just can't execute it when the series was on the line. The fact that his last playoff series he was in, THE SERIES WAS NOT ON THE LINE BECAUSE HE NEVER WIN ONE GAME ATLEAST.
@joshuabosire710
@joshuabosire710 Год назад
Mad dog always finds a way to fit Larrt Bird in thconversation😂😂😂
@josephchung19
@josephchung19 2 года назад
1:12 when the ball drops on his head and he aint fazed
@xx1j
@xx1j 2 года назад
When KD can't even score over 20 pts in a playoff game, while Luka can get the same score by himself against the overall No. 1 seed by half-time...then Luka is obviously better than KD offensively.
@Fabian6980
@Fabian6980 2 года назад
It's about winning kd always had stars by his side and still does and only got two rings 🤔🤷‍♂️ also offense is not just having a nice jumpshot lol Stephen a on his bs like always better scorer than luka maybe better offensive player absolutely not
@donaldlouwe3939
@donaldlouwe3939 2 года назад
Clearly First Take is no longer a debate show, ESPN got rid of Max so that SAS can speak for 80 percent of the segment while rotating hosts politely nod and listen.
@longsalad5334
@longsalad5334 2 года назад
SAS will never say a bad thing about KD after his friendly conversation with Mama Durant 💀
@TraGamer1606
@TraGamer1606 2 года назад
Does Stephen a understand Luka is great because he's been playing professionally since 15
@de-graftasafo-adjei4646
@de-graftasafo-adjei4646 2 года назад
14 please
@rusty111fire
@rusty111fire 2 года назад
KD is the most efficient scorer in the history of the league. No doubt about that.
@OriginalGacole
@OriginalGacole Год назад
lebron
@mercisadiki
@mercisadiki 2 года назад
HERE'S ANOTHER FUN FACT... LUKA Outscored 4th place MVP Booker (218 to 164), Out-rebounded 7'0 Ayton (69 to 57), Out-assisted league leader in assist CP3 (49 to 40), Out-stole DPOY runner-up Bridges (15 to 9) Someone point to when KD has been that productive against a number one team...
@liddaoui5648
@liddaoui5648 2 года назад
The analysts be like: Luka Dončić ❌ Luka donkich✅ Luka donchik✅
@xolisawulana3112
@xolisawulana3112 2 года назад
To be fair even though KD got swept in the first round, he still the best offensive player in the NBA. I mean Boston had to double and triple team the guy the entire series to stop him and dare the others to beat them which is not possible. With KD tripled down the Nets had no chance at all out there cuz that team has no chemistry, with everything they had to endure the majority of the season🤷🏽‍♂️. I mean just last season they walked all over that Boston team so it’s not a coincidence that off court issues impacted their entire run this year. Hopefully next season they can focus only on basketball 🏀 💯🤷🏽‍♂️ and also let go of Steve Nash lmao 😂😂😂
@smoothsavage2870
@smoothsavage2870 2 года назад
Finally a fair answer.
@rex6830
@rex6830 2 года назад
Kd was double teamed 30.6% of possessions to Luka’s 28% and luka averaged 1.37 points per double possession to kd’s 1.26 this shows luka’s ablity to either shoot and make the shot through the double or pass out of the double without having a higher turnover rate. The notion kd was doubled the most in the nba playoffs is ridiculous as showing James harden is in reality the most double player in the postseason per the nbacourtoptix the site ran by the nba
@2oeoenk
@2oeoenk 2 года назад
If you're really a great offensive player, surely you should be able to use those doubles for your team's advantages with your passings, your positionings, and not just scoring?
@xolisawulana3112
@xolisawulana3112 2 года назад
@@2oeoenk KD was doing that last season but his teammates disappointed him and then he ended up playing the bucks himself and ended up losing. BKN shooters are just not to be trusted. They too afraid to shoot and make shots. Maybe KD didn’t trust enough
@bicki60
@bicki60 2 года назад
Luka said himself that KD was the best, but let the amateurs argue about it
@dizzy8175
@dizzy8175 2 года назад
you want a 1-4th year player to say "nah, i'm the best guy out there", "better than Jordan in his prime". gtfoh
@bicki60
@bicki60 2 года назад
@@dizzy8175 relax kid Luka brought it up on a podcast. He wasn’t asked a question. What’s up with your aggressive attitude defending a stranger?
@epixbear5594
@epixbear5594 2 года назад
doncic needs to first win MVP let alone lead a team to a title to be compared to KD
@alex-og.zalez9403
@alex-og.zalez9403 2 года назад
Mad dog always says he needs to see more...but the 1 white player who is also incredible, he's ready to make an all timer...
@angelaquino6755
@angelaquino6755 2 года назад
"He's playing with nobody (Luka)", so Brunson, Dinwiddie and Finney-Smith are nothing to you, not to mention Jason Kidd's great coaching and Dallas role-player's outstanding defense? Give a break. Stop acting like Luka winning alone, just las game Dinwiddie had 30 and Brunson like 22. The best offensive player in the league is Steph, why? Easy and simple, as soon as he steps past half court he opens up the court for everybody else, he makes screens to help his players take better and more open shots, he moves without the basketball throwing defenses off, he's a great scorer on every level, and he averages 6+ assists while not even being ball dominant or the primary play maker. It's crazy to me how Steph is still underrated and boxed a just a shooter. NO ONE IN THE LEAGUE HAS A GREATER IMPACT ON OFFENSE, he's struggled shooting this year in terms of efficiency (by his standards, cause 38% from three is still pretty good, but bad for Steph) and still managed to keep the team's offense going. When Dray didn't play this season the warriors still managed to win over half their games without him with Steph leading them and people where saying "They are struggling because Dray is their most important player", when Steph didn't play THE WARRIORS COULDN'T WIN EVEN HALF THE GAMES WITHOUT HIM AND NO ONE SAYS NOTHING ABOUT HIM BEING THEIR MOST IMPORTANT AND IMPACTFUL PLAYER. Stop the hate.
@ebenezerindi1766
@ebenezerindi1766 2 года назад
The Celtics didn't defend anyone, including Giannis, the same way they defended KD. The always had 3 guys on him whenever he had the ball, and at least 2 when he didn't have it. They wouldn't even let him move around the court. Their whole defensive gameplan was based around stopping KD. Even if it's KD, to him facing that kind of defense for the first time, and with almost no help, there's no player who would not struggle. He overcame that in game 4 but it was too late.
@Zatora11
@Zatora11 2 года назад
Shaddup. You started off saying the celtics didn’t defend anyone and then proceeded to say their whole defensive plan was to stop KD.
@whereisthelambsauce7753
@whereisthelambsauce7753 2 года назад
Exactly why Luka is a better OFFENSIVE player than Kevin Durant cuz there's no way you can put 3 guys on him with the court vision that he has
@ebenezerindi1766
@ebenezerindi1766 2 года назад
@@Zatora11 Read carefully: *"The Celtics didn't defend ANYONE, including Giannis, the SAME WAY they defended KD"*
@brennomachado5585
@brennomachado5585 2 года назад
Yes, because a great offensive player like Giannis makes you pay for putting 3 on you. A great scorer like KD does not. Or are you saying that the Celtics put 3 on Durant because they could ignore Seth Curry, Kyrie, Dragic and Mills, but didnt put 3 on Giannis because they could not ignore Wesley Matthews and Jrue Holiday? Lol, stop being dellusional.
@sakhile6460
@sakhile6460 2 года назад
nah bruh yall gotta stop putting KD on a pedestal and not giving Steph his flowers
@jblock6142
@jblock6142 Год назад
LeBron dropped the blunt in his lap after hearing this while driving.
@enthusiastichawksfan1759
@enthusiastichawksfan1759 2 года назад
Luka ain’t even the best offensive player at his position 😂
@TONEakaSHOW
@TONEakaSHOW 2 года назад
It's Luka by a mile, people forget Luka has zero athleticism and zero speed. Everything he does is slow motion but no one can guard him. Kd without athleticism and speed wouldn't even make the NBA.
@picclo12345
@picclo12345 2 года назад
Mad dog right about this one! 💯
@MusicManJoe
@MusicManJoe 2 года назад
“You can cancel that dream.” 😂😆🤣
@shalom8858
@shalom8858 2 года назад
Luka is the player America needs, America deserves! Look at that beautiful WHlTE skin. 🤴
@TM-NTM
@TM-NTM 2 года назад
KD has 0 wins vs the celtics
@leninbarahona4074
@leninbarahona4074 2 года назад
He beat celtics last yr buddy
@lilrock447
@lilrock447 2 года назад
@@leninbarahona4074 with a super team and with the Celtics missing jaylen brown buddy he’d better win
@twitchplazmagr5941
@twitchplazmagr5941 2 года назад
A series doesn’t fault his skills
@markreadin7124
@markreadin7124 2 года назад
​@@leninbarahona4074 no Jalen brown..
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 2 года назад
Nets 2 starters missing lost 4 -0...celts missing 2 starters see what happens lol
@kamotetops1572
@kamotetops1572 2 года назад
Scoring is UNDER the category of OFFENSE. Scoring - KD Offense - Luka KD can NOT generate offense for his team when the defense focuses on him. (As seen on Nets vs Celtics) You may slow down Luka from scoring if you put multiple bodies on him BUT he can create offense for his teammates.
@nathantobi
@nathantobi 2 года назад
remind me again when stephen A said things about luka before he entered the nba
@jacquonf4925
@jacquonf4925 2 года назад
The KD D riding by Stephen A is next level
@johnsalchak3498
@johnsalchak3498 2 года назад
Stephen rolling with the guy that just shot 38.6% in his last playoff series.
@Ivmeister_
@Ivmeister_ 2 года назад
Luka really posted up everyone on the starting 5 and dropped buckets. He also elevated his team’s level of play while doing so without a superstar on his team KD, it’s safe to say never made his team better. With OKC he had a partner in crime with him. In Golden State, that team was already solidified. And with Brooklyn, they just got swept by Boston out of the 1st round.
@brandonroque2226
@brandonroque2226 2 года назад
Luka is in the WCF whereas Durant is at home in pajamas after the first round of the EC playoffs.
@amamihe6465
@amamihe6465 2 года назад
To be considered the best offensive player, you need to prove it against the best defenses that are thrown at you. KD came short in that situation. What good is having the reputation of “best offensive player” if you can’t live up to it when it matters most?
@pastapapi9768
@pastapapi9768 2 года назад
Agree with you. KD can't win without Steph and Klay and Draymond. KD doesn't have the DAWG in him, he just wants to hoop, he doesn't JUST WANT TO WIN. There is a difference.
@offthewall7371
@offthewall7371 2 года назад
Overrating 1 skill of offense is the problem with media members. KD is a great scorer but Luka has more moves, is a better passer, creates open looks for teammates, has more variability with his scoring. Being a great 1 on 1 scored doesn't mean your the best offensive player.
@nabryankeene2549
@nabryankeene2549 2 года назад
Kevin Durant is a Star though it doesn't matter about his Team being sent Home by the Boston Celtics. That still doesn't make him a Bad Ball Player he's still in my Eyes considered one of the Greats for sure. 🙌
@Grannyknockers
@Grannyknockers 2 года назад
The question isn't who is the better scorer. It's who is the better offensive player. All Stephen A mentioned was individual scoring abilities and completely ignored how Luka sets his teammates up way better than Durant does.
@memeguy0076
@memeguy0076 2 года назад
Its close but for this season, you can argue Luka as a better offensive player. When Luka does get doubled, he can facilitate by passing out to his teammates which we havent seen much from KD.
@piyushmasurkar3804
@piyushmasurkar3804 Год назад
if we talking about scoring, its KD, if its overall offense including playmaking its a much closer discussion that might be in Luka's favor depending on whos surrounding them
@castleford2591
@castleford2591 2 года назад
Let me know when Luka does this on a consistent level for another 10 years. He's great. Right now. Lord willing, he stays healthy and plays for a long time.
@jamesshepley5311
@jamesshepley5311 2 года назад
Luka Trae lebron and jokic are the Mount Rushmore of offensive players rn when taking scoring and playmaking into account
@ethanmoneymuter7284
@ethanmoneymuter7284 2 года назад
Hate it when people think offence is defined by a midrange hesi
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