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Luka Doncic Rookie HGA Submission Update! Grade Reveal and slab comparison to BGS PSA SGC! 

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Here we are folks!! Finally after 6 long months of waiting for a "10 day" grade from PSA. Getting REJECTED and accused of trimming cards! Here we have it!
Full comparison to BGS PSA and SGC
Any my ultimate opinion of which slab is better!
ENJOY!!
Check out the submission video here:
• How to submit to HGA N...
Link to the original PSA video where the Luka came from
• PSA RESULTS. PSA 10 LU...
Link to the video before the sub.
• First ever PSA submiss...
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@Gotmark76NWAWWF2KWrestling
@Gotmark76NWAWWF2KWrestling 3 года назад
So let me get this straight (and I'm not trying to be a troll): PSA rejected the card, but the card moves easily in the case.....coincidence?
@jeffmooney3991
@jeffmooney3991 3 года назад
Thought the same thing
@20byrd
@20byrd 3 года назад
Exactly... Note to self, never buy an HGA slabbed card.
@brianmarshall6534
@brianmarshall6534 3 года назад
We all know psa is inconsistent as F×#k how many times do people Crack 9s and the odd 8 and over 50 percent of time they get 10s . This is some investors main hustle
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I did a follow up video where I compare the movement in the HGA slab to the exact same movement in the PSA slab. It’s IDENTICAL. and yes this card was originally rejected by PSA as trimmed along with several other cards in that group sub. All of which went on to resubmit with either BGS or back to PSA and all cards were graded. It’s one of the reasons PSA is so inconsistent in my opinion and the reason why HGA has an opportunity to take some market share from theM.
@Gotmark76NWAWWF2KWrestling
@Gotmark76NWAWWF2KWrestling 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles please know I wasn’t saying you trimmed the card. Again, I wasn’t trying to be a troll. I’ve seen many people have issues with cards fresh from the pack that were rejected from BGS and PSA for size. I’m returning to the hobby after 20 years away. Grading seems like the best best for cards that I want to keep as pristine as I can. It sticks when you get a really nice (and valuable) card like that, and it doesn’t fit as hoped. Good luck with everything, I’ll be sure to catch that new video!
@cardboardcheddar1674
@cardboardcheddar1674 3 года назад
It’s the card stock that allows enough room to move in the case.
@adamwisniewski2018
@adamwisniewski2018 3 года назад
I have PSA slabs and some of the cards move in them.
@apebitmusic83
@apebitmusic83 3 года назад
People kill me. Just because the card is moving around in there it’s trimmed. Cards float around in PSA slabs too. Also, it assumes every slab and every interior space is identical across all slabs across all companies. People, stop worshipping PSA.
@markluke5573
@markluke5573 3 года назад
Amen!
@PaulHickey
@PaulHickey 3 года назад
Agree.
@chriswolfe5417
@chriswolfe5417 3 года назад
I love what HGA brings. I could see it forcing the other grading companies to go "hybrid" eventually, too. Maybe.
@cantoncardcollector1512
@cantoncardcollector1512 3 года назад
I dig the HGA slab! I can’t wait to send them some cards🤙🏼
@JoesCardStache
@JoesCardStache 3 года назад
Yoooo what’s the scale for??? 🤔
@jakeparnell7
@jakeparnell7 2 года назад
Yeah they look good. I agree. But the market value of them is terrible if your planning on selling. For PC though I say yeah go for it.
@cantoncardcollector1512
@cantoncardcollector1512 2 года назад
@@JoesCardStache for weighing out the grams
@1asktee
@1asktee 3 года назад
the slab is straight-up fire I like it
@MIKESMITH-rp2rs
@MIKESMITH-rp2rs 3 года назад
They need to be tested. Send in a trimmed card, and a reprint. See what their quality control is all about.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Now there is an idea
@TheBreaksFB
@TheBreaksFB 3 года назад
Maybe they will grade it just like PSA and BGS did.. lol
@brianmarshall6534
@brianmarshall6534 3 года назад
That would be a good idea actually if people were serious about changing grading services
@markluke5573
@markluke5573 3 года назад
They have had 11 '87 Fleer Jordans sent in, only 2 were slabbed as authentic
@ezranardoni6946
@ezranardoni6946 3 года назад
I also think that HGA has the potential to beat both PSA and Beckett with the customization options they have. Unless PSA can copy those same options while also guaranteeing turnaround times...Which I honestly don’t see happening any time soon
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I think HGA has the one main thing going for them. Guarantee turn around times. And I think them limiting the number of subs weekly is a huge thing for them. Forget the awesome slabs , I think that is what’s going to put them above the other grading houses. Thanks for watching 👍
@ezranardoni6946
@ezranardoni6946 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles Agreed. Subbed this morning! Keep up the good videos 🙌🏻
@jamellee8890
@jamellee8890 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles hey big bro, is it true they sell out of the subs availability within 1-2 hours? thanks bro
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Very true. They had website issues last time with the amount of traffic they were getting.
@AmazianLinsation82
@AmazianLinsation82 3 года назад
Lol. I know different folks with different strokes. But you are paying for grading the card not the slab. I know i know grading is subjective but like with any collectibles. History and first mover advantage matters. PSA and Beckett been around a long time and they will always be the standard of card grading
@CardManic
@CardManic 3 года назад
awesome Retro Hoops! first time on the channel. i agree the HGA labels are so nice! thanks for sharing, going to give them a try! can't wait to check out your other vids!
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Thanks for watching Champ! I appreciate it!
@TIPPYtoeup
@TIPPYtoeup 3 года назад
I actually like the PSA slab better. As far as looks. But holding them is damn near equally as important. All comps should show subgrades!
@nickelhead89
@nickelhead89 3 года назад
Congrats on the return! Looks great! Looking forward to my first submission.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Thanks for watching and good luck on your sub! 👍
@Zaran15
@Zaran15 3 года назад
Maybe it’s shaking around cuz the card was trimmed lol
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
That would mean that Panini trimmed it. Lol.
@piercegerber365
@piercegerber365 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles not really. it's just a factory defect sometimes.
@platinumpullz313
@platinumpullz313 3 года назад
Yeh it’s not trimmed it’s the factory’s fault but that might be why it’s moving around
@michaels7258
@michaels7258 3 года назад
Maybe it was a miscut by Panini? Then PSA reads it as trimmed and thus the loose fit in the HGA slab. Still looks beautiful in that color match.
@mattyrips7581
@mattyrips7581 3 года назад
Great video with tons of great info! Excited to send some cards to HGA!
@petes2feet
@petes2feet 3 года назад
I heard that the HGA slabs are UV protected, any word on that?
@parabellumgaming5031
@parabellumgaming5031 3 года назад
Been looking forward to this review. Thanks mate for give us your thoughts. Currently now trying to organise a group submission to HGA from Oz.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
not a problem Thanks for watching!
@groundzero270
@groundzero270 3 года назад
These slabs show the card the best! The extra area on the edges really help define the card.
@jbortega1178
@jbortega1178 3 года назад
Hoops cards are some of the thinnest cards printed...
@ezranardoni6946
@ezranardoni6946 3 года назад
I just sent my first submission to HGA. I don’t like that your card was moving around either, but I definitely have a few PSA graded cards that do the same thing. Hopefully they try to improve on that
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I took a look at my PSA Luka and it moves around also.
@ezranardoni6946
@ezranardoni6946 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles With how much money we throw at these companies you’d think they would tighten up the slabs just a bit haha
@jr1434
@jr1434 3 года назад
I may have to submit to HGA - love color, quality and sub-grades. PSA is greedy AF these past couple years. PSA knows that most desire their service and have been taking advantage of their customers.
@David-sw3on
@David-sw3on 3 года назад
And Quit SHAKIN IT! You're freakin me out...it just went to 8.5!! haha Seriously, Great Video my man! ...keep up the Awesome Work; I agree totally with what you are saying.👍😉🇨🇦
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Appreciate it!!
@DavetheFriarCollector
@DavetheFriarCollector 3 года назад
It’s loose in the holder because it’s trimmed 😂. Just kidding man great comparison on the slab I’m definitely thinking of sending them a few cards.
@TalkingBallCards
@TalkingBallCards 3 года назад
I’ve been looking at HGA as well! Nice return!
@midwestsportscardz94
@midwestsportscardz94 3 года назад
I just subscribed love the video and I’ll be catching up on your channel
@schizowallflower
@schizowallflower 3 года назад
It doesn't bother you to shake around the card and potentially damage the corners and edges?
@sportcardcollector9599
@sportcardcollector9599 3 года назад
Great looking slab thanks for sharing 👍
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Thanks for watching 👍
@brandonstebbins7242
@brandonstebbins7242 3 года назад
It was a great reveal. The slab looks amazing. Glad I came across your channel. Just subbed.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Thanks for the sub!
@kyleskards2864
@kyleskards2864 3 года назад
I wondered about how the HGA slabs would turn out. New sub. I like how you can customize it so the label matches the card/team/uniform. Thanks for sharing.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Thanks for the sub!
@craigslattery1901
@craigslattery1901 3 года назад
HGA, BGS, SGC and then PSA for me to look at. Value is the reverse.
@therelicextractors4761
@therelicextractors4761 3 года назад
I really like this but for the same thing you dislike is the card movement inside the slab..But in all reality it's not like we're gonna be carrying them around in our back pockets either lol..A little more stability should be noted however..good video and thanks for sharing
@PaulHickey
@PaulHickey 3 года назад
good stuff. I agree that the HGA label on the SGC slab would be the best. Super weird PSA rejected it for trimming and HGA graded it. Maybe I should submit my PSA rejected cards to HGA? :) LOL - smart move. Thanks for sharing.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Paul i honestly think it was a way for PSA to drastically reduce its backlog. It alot easier to just say "trimmed" or "minimum size" than to grade it. Just my opinion
@PaulHickey
@PaulHickey 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles wow. Wouldn’t that be something. That would definitely be unethical… I may submit to HGA
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Just a tin foil hat conspiracy of mine. Lol
@brianmarshall6534
@brianmarshall6534 3 года назад
But true enough about the movement of the card. At least the future of grading will be done by a cpu and not some lazy person on a Friday saying I'm just looking quick stabbing m grading to meet quota
@tomharrison6607
@tomharrison6607 2 года назад
i have sent tons of cards to bgs beckett and sgc and i find more of the cards move around in psa holders than the other two graders not sure about hga though
@e3takesflight258
@e3takesflight258 3 года назад
Hey man I enjoyed you video I’ve been trying to decide if I want to send one of my Lamelo rookies through the HGA service. These slabs look so nice I think I’m going to go ahead and give it a shot Great Video man
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
send me over the link if you do put it up for sale. im curious to see how it does. Thanks for watching
@e3takesflight258
@e3takesflight258 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles I definitely will!
@DawnBTVS
@DawnBTVS 3 года назад
Cards move around in a lot of slabs in my experience (especially if you physically are tapping the plastic holder on the table/desk and even just tapping with your finger as you showed). It's worth noting but I dunno how big a deal it is, to be honest. How often are you picking up your personal slabs and rattling them/shaking them, y'know? Loved the weight comparisons. Only thing I'm not a fan of on the HGA Slabs is that the player name is so huge and the actual card type - Panini Hoops Base is written so small at the type that you almost have to squint to read it.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
yeah the same card in the PSA 10 slab is also moves around just the same. Thanks for watching!
@jamesestrada82
@jamesestrada82 2 года назад
@David Hunter, my biggest worry with the cards that move inside slabs isn’t my own handling once in my possession, but rather when the card has just been purchased and is in transit to me. The way most delivery services (including USPS) handle packages, is downright scary!
@hossofcards
@hossofcards 3 года назад
Not a good luck for PSA with this one, bottom line. The HGA slab is really sharp, hoping they fix the loose cards in the future. Congrats on the return man!
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
It definitely isn’t. That’s why I wanted to do this sub so bad. It was an opportunity for HGA to grade using their AI a card that was rejected by human eyes from PSA. Thanks for watching Hoss👍👍
@thechado7868
@thechado7868 3 года назад
How is it not a good look? Psa didn't slab it cause it's trimmed so he went to hga and they stabbed it hence why the card is moving around in the case lol
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Watch the follow up video. It moves around just the same in a PSA 10 slab. It’s a bad look because of the circumstance under which it was rejected. Watch my original video where I received my PSA sub. I explain the whole thing there.
@kpreap
@kpreap 3 года назад
@@thechado7868 a psa graded card moves the same so based on your level of thinking psa also graded a trimmed card 🤔.
@briancox7219
@briancox7219 3 года назад
Pretty common for the thinner stock cards (NBA Hoops) to move around in the slab... Wouldnt say it happens with all cards on thinner stock... huge difference between card thickness from NBA Hoops and that Select card you showed
@kramliker
@kramliker 3 года назад
Cards float around in PSA slabs to
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
i didnt notice that until afterwards but you are right. My PSA 10 Luka moves around too. thanks for watching
@jimpc2444
@jimpc2444 3 года назад
So excited about HGA. Slabs look Awesome! Let's hope they can perform.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
They’re off to a good start with turn around times. Thanks for watching 👍
@Deepthoughtsabound
@Deepthoughtsabound 3 года назад
BGS uses an inner sleeve to protect the card inside the slab.
@rarelyaccurate6252
@rarelyaccurate6252 3 года назад
Sweet, now we all know where to send trimmed cards. Winning
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I need to do a follow up video on how the cards also moves around just the same in the PSA 10 slab. Thanks for watching!
@rarelyaccurate6252
@rarelyaccurate6252 3 года назад
​@@RetroHoopCollectibles Yeah, the movement and rattle are very common. I don't think it's a flaw. I'd rather have some movement and rattle than use an internal penny sleeve that doesn't look as good.
@theoemery9682
@theoemery9682 3 года назад
that slab is beautiful and a greater than 9/5 that's awesome the blue label and the blue card looks amazing how long did it take to get it returned and what does it cost for one card? Thanks again I'll be watching more in the future
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Cost total for just 1 card on a 10 day sub was $60 with shipping. It took a total of 6 business days to get the card back in hand. Thanks for watching!
@JoeyTheCollector
@JoeyTheCollector 3 года назад
Great looking slab, I sent them 1 MJ card to see what it’s about.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Thanks Joey. You won’t be disappointed brother. Thanks for watching and supporting. I appreciate it
@andrewg1438
@andrewg1438 3 года назад
Looks awesome!! What do you think the value is?? I know you’re keeping it but my guess it’d be 220-300$. If I’m collecting a player for PC I would buy the card in a HGA slab even w a low grade. I think a HGA 10 will be hard to get, so 9.5 score is amazing. Sick card, sweet slab, and a nice score, cheers 🍻
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Honestly in terms of value I just don’t know. The two other examples I’ve seen are pretty on par value wise with their PSA counters. I happen to be very high on Luka otherwise I’d sell it just to see what the market is. Thanks for watching 👍
@tyleryurasits9352
@tyleryurasits9352 3 года назад
The hga label only looks good with modern cards I feel like...sgc slab with bgs label would be dope
@jeffmooney3991
@jeffmooney3991 3 года назад
Have you seen some of their vintage ones. I thought the same thing, but they use different labels for vintage they look pretty good.
@HiFiPlayer
@HiFiPlayer 3 года назад
Well it would make sense if the card moves around if it was trimmed according to PSA right? That slab is much better looking than the rest though.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I did a follow up video. The PSA 10 version of this card moves around in the slab too. Thanks for watching 👍
@HiFiPlayer
@HiFiPlayer 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles yea. Haha I saw that. I really dig those style slabs. I wonder with the new ownership of PSA ...if they will get nicer looking slabs
@leogonzalez9384
@leogonzalez9384 Год назад
That Luka looks awesome in HGA slab
@midwestsportscardz94
@midwestsportscardz94 3 года назад
You might have pulled it from a pack but could’ve been cut slightly more at the manufacture and that could be why it’s moving in your slab. It could just simply be a manufactured defect. I’d like to know if all cards in these slabs move??? Just a thought
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
So I did a follow up video showing it moving around in a PSA 10 slab as well. I’m 99.9% sure it’s manufacturer sizing. These are after all retail “wax”
@tomharrison6607
@tomharrison6607 2 года назад
also sent tons to psa that is the holder that the cards move the most
@775sportscards3
@775sportscards3 3 года назад
Good grade worth sending it to them nice looking card looks good in there slab
@mannycano3503
@mannycano3503 3 года назад
Does hga charge right away or do they charge after they ship them back to you?
@NextMJ2
@NextMJ2 3 года назад
They charge on the spot
@mansachill4202
@mansachill4202 3 года назад
Can I send in Pokémon cards with basketball cards with hga?
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I think there are still. A few months away from accepting Pokémon. I know the owner Tyler Hitt has mentioned that TCG cards are next on the list.
@wespope9079
@wespope9079 3 года назад
I really like the comparison of all the different slabs. The only thing I see is the HGA price is pretty steep for a new company thats not really established in the hobby. Totally agree they are the best looking, especially with all the options they have.
@bryang119
@bryang119 3 года назад
I do really love the labels on the HGA but it is not perfect, i still overall think PSA's slab is nicer looking for 2 reasons, reason number 1 is on the PSA slab there is very little slab left surrounding the actual card itself which i do like better and the second reason is PSA's slab is not see through (it's kind of frosted so you can't really see through it that much where as the HGA slab you can see right through it. If HGA could improve those 2 factors then i think the HGA slab would be better because i do absolutely love those HGA labels. Great video and happy for you that you got that Luka card back.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Man you’ve really given some good points there. I’ve never really given consideration to the slab to card ratio. HGA still has some room to grow but I think they’re on the right path. Thanks for watching 👍
@taylamayde
@taylamayde 3 года назад
guess its all preference dont hate the frost but i always preferred see thru slabs
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Yeah at some point it comes down to personal preference. Which is why I just wanted to compare them in size and weight.
@braybray2131
@braybray2131 3 года назад
What Is the pricing
@brianstalter6569
@brianstalter6569 3 года назад
I curious to know what color scheme you're going to go with when you submit your older cards. The more plain look of those probably will look best with team colors versus card colors, but I'd like to see the result of each (these are the majority of what I would be submitting myself).
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
When it comes to the older cards I’d always go with team match. I feel like that will always look the best and you can’t go wrong.
@brianstalter6569
@brianstalter6569 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles I think you're right.
@rckslts
@rckslts 3 года назад
Psa is dumb, stick with HGA bud! Good job on the 9.5 grade on that luka card
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
i appreciate that Rick! Honestly from now on...if its for my PC. HGA is where im going dude. Especially once i complete my Hakeem Prizm rainbow. Thanks for watching!
@erickirkland9801
@erickirkland9801 3 года назад
You should definitely look into ISA grading. They have the black border trim, with the blue label. 10 day turnaround time at $ 10 per card. I really like them!! They have graded about 500 cards for me so far.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
i'll take a look at that and do a review. Thanks for the suggestion and Thanks for watching!
@coreypersky927
@coreypersky927 3 года назад
They don't have a pop report. How can they not have a pop report? That literally is a database of all the cards that they have graded.
@cowboyscollecter4
@cowboyscollecter4 3 года назад
HGA 9.5s seem to be selling in close value to BGS 9.5s right now when you look at comps, so HGA has a real shot to make into the "big 3." Hoping they do as I've got a few cards heading to HGA next week.
@kamistad2013
@kamistad2013 3 года назад
You know that is just shill/manipulation.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
the sample size on the selling is so small its hard to tell if they'll ever get there in terms of value. But I hope they become a player in the market for anything just to have healthy competition out there for the consumers. Thanks for watching!
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
could be. sample size is so small out there right now.
@johnschrieber1270
@johnschrieber1270 Год назад
Like the look of the HGA slab for that card. I would almost consider cracking your PSA 8 just to send it to SGC so you have 3 of the same card in 3 different slabs. Also, I've said this before too. SGC needs to buyout HGA and own their hybrid tech plus their label variations. What if SGC had a horizontal slab either in tux or in HGA-style label? Hmmm...
@piercegerber365
@piercegerber365 3 года назад
I absolutely hate the HGA slabs and labels LOL I can't be the only one 😂
@johanrodriguez9420
@johanrodriguez9420 3 года назад
I'm with you. I like the timeliness they offer, but I think the slabs are ugly.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
its all relative to what youre taste is. I really see HGA trying to put themselves in a different arena than PSA when it comes to their slabs. Thanks for watching!
@thechado7868
@thechado7868 3 года назад
Reminds me of the new MLB 2021 series 1 cards lol can't read nothing 😂
@sportscardmania8445
@sportscardmania8445 3 года назад
I really like the HGA slab, it's FIRE!
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Agreed. 👍
@veilight4444
@veilight4444 3 года назад
Man that's a nice slab. I wonder if the edges will eventually degrade because all the movement in the slab
@Joe-rg9yz
@Joe-rg9yz 3 года назад
Is it possible its moving around because it is a little bit smaller, like PSA said? Not sure why no one has suggested that. Not saying its trimmed, just factory made that way.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
It could be. This is after all a Hoops card which is the thinnest card stock. Either way. Awesome slab abs great turn around time. Thanks for watching. 👍
@Joe-rg9yz
@Joe-rg9yz 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles thank you for getting it up so quickly. I've been waiting since you submitted, haha! Nice job
@BA-li5ur
@BA-li5ur 3 года назад
I also wish the HGA website had more examples. They give you like 6 choices on type of label, but they don’t really SHOW you much.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Yeah thats one thing they arent 100% clear about. Thanks for watching
@MrVocalist101
@MrVocalist101 3 года назад
i dont like the labels at all!, thickness and durability of the acrylic looks decent but the labels don't look high enough quality or "special" enough imo. i guess we'll have to see how these sell but i doubt we'll see any MJ pmg greens or 86 fleer rookie cards in these slabs for a looooong time!?
@isaacsalpietra13
@isaacsalpietra13 3 года назад
There's an 86 fleer jordan hga 8 on ebay right now and in my opinion it looks 10 times better than psa
@MrVocalist101
@MrVocalist101 3 года назад
@@isaacsalpietra13 ya know what, i saw a video by "baseball card collector investor dealer" the other day going through weeks card auction sales and he showed a pic of an mj 86 in a hga slab (was up for 50 racks but cant remember grade) and it looked awesome!, the label colour combo with the card looks amazing!! i stand corrected!! lol, lets just see how much they sell for!?....
@m.j.g.o.a.t2383
@m.j.g.o.a.t2383 3 года назад
I'm super stoked with HGA,they are in my Top 3 ,with SGC an Beckett!! PSA will NEVER get another submission from me as they are bias on their grading an not true!!
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Funny you say that....im actually looking to do a big sub, and even though i know PSA is the best when it comes to turn around times, I couldn't get pass their verbiage on their site that said it could be 2-3 months before your cards enter the grading process. and even from there its still another 2-3 months....that's insane.
@gregorymann3431
@gregorymann3431 3 года назад
Those are the best labels when matched to card..no color clashing..
@matthoffman6962
@matthoffman6962 3 года назад
All cards move around in psa slabs. “Well mostly all of them”. Nothing to worry about. Personally I’d use one touches. especially for autographed cards for the UV protection. And no cards will not be damaged in one touches until you violently shake them. Same as with a psa case
@itscoolpapapump3812
@itscoolpapapump3812 3 года назад
Maybe the card is truly trimmed & so it moves.. idk send another & see
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
My PSA 10 Luka moves around also
@thechado7868
@thechado7868 3 года назад
Thats what I said lol he sent it to psa it was shown to be trimmed and HGA stabbed it so it tells me to never ever send a Card to HGA lol
@froggerflipping5125
@froggerflipping5125 3 года назад
Some cards move around in PSA slabs too, so.. 🤷‍♂️
@Teacherguy06
@Teacherguy06 3 года назад
Looks great but I'm sending my Best to PSA.....for now. Damn it looks Good though!!
@downhilltwofour0082
@downhilltwofour0082 2 года назад
So, I understand that if you're selling the cards go to PSA. If you're keeping the card in your private collection, go to HGA?
@MJBB33
@MJBB33 3 года назад
BGS 10 is still the pinnacle of the hobby though.. A BGS Gold label 10 will out sell a PSA 10 EVERY single time.. (I'm not even talking about a BGS black label 10.) I'm also not hating, I'm just speaking facts.. People can like it or hate it, but it doesn't change the truth..
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Yeah I agree. Especially a black label. It’s something about having a card be absolutely flawless that sets everyone off. Thanks for watching. 👍
@amigopuerco
@amigopuerco 2 года назад
I bet that psa moves around in there too. My DeAndre ayton donruss rc does the 35 pt cards
@vinylmine
@vinylmine 2 года назад
I might be just me but it kinda bugs me that the label isn't the same width as the card. SGC slabs would look so much better if the label was the same width as the card below.
@francisnycvideos
@francisnycvideos 3 года назад
HGA looks awesome. Definitely agree that the card moving around is annoying tho
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
Did a follow up video. PSA moves around too.
@francisnycvideos
@francisnycvideos 3 года назад
@Retro Hoop Collectibles yea just saw that lol. How are you feeling about companies that have the 9.5 grading system? Is a PSA 10 always more valuable than a 9.5 somewhere else
@waddles3858
@waddles3858 3 года назад
U did say psa sent it back because it was trimmed so if its trimmed then that would explain the movement. I have seen more psa wobble in slabs then others
@COUGARCARDS
@COUGARCARDS 2 года назад
Good looking slab. Cards can’t be moving in there though. That’s a deal breaker.
@BroPhotography
@BroPhotography 3 года назад
alot of my psa slabs the card moves around
@danielallen8944
@danielallen8944 3 года назад
nice grade. not really feeling the label from HGA that much....not that PSA is great but something about that Ariel type font makes it look cheap to me. I don't know but if they get your cards back quicker they may be an option
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
There definitely doing that. I got this one back in 6 business days total. Thanks for watching
@kpreap
@kpreap 3 года назад
At the end if the day its on market acceptance. People are getting frustrated w PSA turnaround times. Why post a 5 day sub when it takes 2 weeks. Don't even hold your breath for the regular subs, you'll be lucky to get them back in a year
@danielallen8944
@danielallen8944 3 года назад
@@kpreap absolutely
@lowellahee6231
@lowellahee6231 3 года назад
Why is there a handy little scale so close by tho... 🧐😆
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
LOL. Thanks for watching!
@nealarnett9394
@nealarnett9394 3 года назад
Great video! I just found your channel and subbed. I am sending an RJ Prizm base to check this company out. Love their slabs also. Thanks for sharing!! God Bless!
@sneakernerd8458
@sneakernerd8458 2 года назад
Your scale has the lid on it. You gotta move the plastic lid before you use it.
@bluntedout247
@bluntedout247 2 года назад
A moving loose card is what makes me grade with BGS, they don't move around against a hard and card damaging case... smh.
@speedy-jay
@speedy-jay 3 года назад
its moving around in there because its trimmed
@daniellara8007
@daniellara8007 3 года назад
😂😂😂 I’m new here I didn’t know the story lol
@lag9
@lag9 2 года назад
It's trimmed. I send them all my trimmed cards too. They grade everything.
@evan_shym.kollects
@evan_shym.kollects 3 года назад
There is probably a lot of room because they have only 1 mold for all card thicknesses
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
That’s what I’m thinking too. And this is Hoops which is a retail product. Not the thickest of card stocks.
@bobo44donemilking51
@bobo44donemilking51 3 года назад
Some cards do that all makes of slabs ,the card is a little narrower
@BA-li5ur
@BA-li5ur 3 года назад
I like PSA the best. I almost wish the HGA sticker was bigger. There’s almost too much clear real estate. The card clanging around worries me tho. We gotta ensure thats not the norm.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I did a follow up video on the card moving around. It does the same in a PSA 10 case
@BA-li5ur
@BA-li5ur 3 года назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles oh that’s interesting. I feel like most of mine don’t or at least not to the same level. Hearing it clang around in there was a little disconcerting. Haven’t seen any other videos mention it either.
@8mathdaddy
@8mathdaddy 3 года назад
It doesn't matter which slab looks good. It's how much you can sell it for and as of now PSA is king.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
That’s the case for investment pieces. But remember the reason a card value goes up is only because there is nostalgia in the card. Ultimately someone will either buy it and hold the bag or someone is going to buy it that doesn’t care about the value, they buy for nostalgia. At that point, grading doesn’t matter. All my PC is going to go to HGA from now on.
@jamesestrada82
@jamesestrada82 2 года назад
Probably beating a dead horse, but I have plenty of PSA slabs in which the cards move around. Especially the thinner cards from the junk wax era… 😬
@wildwhit5243
@wildwhit5243 3 года назад
The card is moving around because it’s not a normal card size hint why psa said it was trimmed. If it was normal it would fit and not move.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
That’s just simply not true. I have several cards in PSA 10 grades that move around just the same. Including this exact card. Fact is that for some reason PSA was having a hissy fit that day and gave my card that designation, and that is a problem.
@therelicextractors4761
@therelicextractors4761 3 года назад
Maybe HGA just has a larger holding size than PSA..CHECK OUT THE SPECS..you may have your answer
@geogaribaldi
@geogaribaldi 3 года назад
Bro r u ok I can help it it feels like u can barely breath
@oliverortiz8507
@oliverortiz8507 3 года назад
The HGA slabs are good looking.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I think so. They're a big breath of fresh air. Thanks for watching. I'll be getting my HGA and SGC subs back soon so be sure to subscribe
@chriskimmel5227
@chriskimmel5227 3 года назад
Card moves around because it’s not of size
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
I did a follow up on the movement aspect of the slab. PSA does the exact Same thing.
@baller128k
@baller128k 3 года назад
Im glad you pointed this out cuz im def not gonna submit my card anymore....sadly, i love colors so i was willing to start goin to them just for the custom color slabs
@randallrohr623
@randallrohr623 3 года назад
I think the HGA labels are ugly and won’t age well. PSA’s and Beckett’s labels are simple and basic because they know they’ll stand the test of time and look more professional.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 3 года назад
There is definitely something to be said about a basic label and it’s ability to be timeless. But there is also this aspect of art that’s coming into the hobby where people are looking to their cards as display pieces. And I think in that aspect HGA is really hitting it out of the park. Thanks for watching
@jokeralphaoscar
@jokeralphaoscar 3 года назад
Agree the slab-baby
@jameswebb6624
@jameswebb6624 3 года назад
Nice slab, but the ROI is not close. Maybe they can gain traction, but from the investor side I would not send to them.
@kpreap
@kpreap 3 года назад
You say this now until it catches up and you're still sitting around after a year waiting for your PSA card
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