Hellooo everyone, hope your'e well. I finally got my hands on the Panasonic Lumix S5iiX and here are my thoughts. LUMIX S5iiX - MAD MAX Review #gh7 #braw #s5iix
I have a Panasonic S1 and Black Magic Assist but it will not be my A cam for film. Its looks great but just doesn’t leave a good taste in my mouth for film. Music video, commercials video portraits yes, but for film, my Pocket 4k and Cinema 6k just looks better film style videos. Maybe it’s too sharp and I’m not a great colorist but the contrast and sharpness is the difference with the Panasonic cameras. But when you need the low light and sharpness, they are absolute beast.
I love my s5iix and I film on a bunch of different cams. The s5iix is such a beast for the price. The latest firmware this past spring has been so good with the autofocus and ibis.
With V-Log wrapped into ProRes, you need to go on the Clip Attribute and manually change video levels from ''Auto'' to ''Full''. That's why your contrast is different.
Thanks man, yeah it's so good coming off that pro thing and just having fun again traveling & shooting. Really impressed by how much more detailed the ProRes is over the internal 😮
There are also some bonkers deals to be had on S1H kits right now, and that camera has a good OLPF, at the trade-off of worse Autofocus. But if you’re primarily using manual cine type lenses, it still has the better image.
@@Altcine Last time I owned an autofocus lens was back in my GH5S days. But I’m a 1st AC, so manual focus is not a big issue for me. Kolari Vision does make an OLPF for the S-series cameras, but it’s a bit spendy. The Pyxis will probably be the best “cine-focused” implementation of this IMX-410 sensor though, unless someone does a body with ND built in.
@@ForestCinema I see. I honestly agree with you that it's not a big deal...just nice to have sometimes. I saw the kolari filter and the price includes installation I think so not too bad. I will probably make a filter for the S5 at some point but we're bringing p4k/p6k filters out first.
I love mine. I bought it as a travel cam / b cam but it's ended up being my A cam. I take it everywhere with me and shoot so much more because of it. I bought mine with the 50mm 1.8 lens and was blown away by its quality. The image is great. I prefer it to my blackmagic's and I never thought that would be the case.
@@CUTSUK mate, I totally understand, it's one of those cams that has everything. Ok...no cam is perfect but this comes pretty damn close. I'm currently messing with a GH7 so I'll see which one I actually prefer...going to be a hard choice.
@@CUTSUK I'm no expert but I can't see it being much better than a CST. They might have done some mathematics so I'm happy to be proved wrong but I'm gonna comfortably say.... it's all marketing 😅
@@Altcine fair enough, wondered if it was a gimmick. I've using Joe's Famularo's phantom cuts for ages and i'm totally happy them and the node tree I've built around them. Let me know how you get on with the GH7. I love the S5II, just wish it had that articulated screen!
@@CUTSUK yeah I saw that and it's pretty good. There was that other guy who did one too, can't remember his name but it was pretty popular. I'll definitely try drop a short vid soon.
I recently purchased my S5II and I have to say that I’m very pleased and impressed with it, the autofocus has been fantastic for me, I have the A7IV and I’ve found they’re on the same level basically, I would even dare to say that the S5II in some cases was faster, more accurate and better overall than my A7IV, for example with multiple subjects, the S5II highlights their faces with a box and sticks to them, I can select the face I want to focus on and it sticks to it, the A7IV doesn’t do that and it’s kind of a hit or miss when there are multiple subjects. I wanted a FF camera and I was between the A7IV and the S5II, I had to get both to have a better comparison and both are awesome to be honest, both have a place in my kit for different reasons and I feel I have the best of both worlds really. I have my S5II with my GH6 as a pair and I love that combo, and great video btw brother, cheers from Honduras ! 🇭🇳
Hey Andy, That's very good to hear. I definitely think it's as good as you say and possibly user settings error on my part, I will definitely try and play with it some more to find optimum settings. With the FX3 I can usually leave the AF settings on wide and it's fine but you do have to switch settings sometimes...I'm sure that's what I needed to do with the S5. Thanks for the comment and greetings from London 🙌🏾
😊These days, I was thinking about the camera market. I imagined it as a movie about the camera market, where all the other brands gather (or hide) in a cave, thinking and meditating (very angry 😡) about the Nikon Z6III [how could it do that to us? How?... Why?😢... Now everything is complicated for us!! What will we do? It has opened people's eyes! How bad he is with his colleagues!😡 ]
Absolutely. I'm really starting to see where all these camera brands have positioned themselves and Lumix has this small area where they really excell.
@@Behnam_Moghaddam thank you, appreciate it man. I was using the 28-70 f2.8 contemporary, the AF is really good when used natively. It's perfect on the Sony. Ps, I did read up on the 24-70, the weight & AF is why I didn't get it.
Yes!! I'd love a longer term review of this camera since It's the one I'm interested to (I shoot mainly live music and events) heard some complains toward the hdmi latency and moiree but I don't think It'll be an issue for my use case. This could also work for some Independent short movie! Cheers from Italy my brother 🙏🏼
Yeah I'm definitely going to test it again with the B4 mount lens so expect to see more. I'm really don't notice the latency but many people have said it's there but for me it's fine.
Thank you for the review, I never would have considered Lumix as a camera I would buy but it's always good to know what is out there. As for the autofocus issue I thought the S5iiX had the new hybrid contrast/phase autofocus? As a Native American who works a lot with people of color I find that autofocus that uses contrast focusing does not work so well with people with darker skin tones. I don't know really but just a thought. Keep up the great work and please keep creating.
@@ImagenStudios thank you. I'm going to jump straight to the part about people of colour as I think this is a part of the issue. If I'm in good light it worked well but in the shadows it would miss. I know there's lots of people of colour that use them but I'm almost certain that's the case. The DPAF works well in good light like most camera's but the trick is low light and dark skin.
@@ImagenStudios thanks man, appreciate it and I had a lot of fun editing it. I actually changed the title just in case people didn't get the theme of the video 😁
@Altcine As an owner of this camera, I appreciate you making this video to highlight why the s5iix is such a great camera. I'm glad you got to use the Blackmagic Video Assist 12G as well. It's on my shopping list. Also, you mentioned editing vlog files with the M1. Is it powerful enough or would you recommend the M2?
Thank you for the comment. Truly a great all round camera and easy to recommend people to buy one. I think the 12g is a great pairing but the internal ProRes also looks so great and detailed that I think that would suit 90% of what I do. In my clips I showed at the end, I actually like the ProRes better as it looks very similar to what I saw on the day whilst the Braw had slightly magenta tones. That didn't make any difference to the grade but it's something I would probably change in post.
Tbh all modern cameras are great. I would love to play around with the S5II as I’ve had the s5 and it was awesome. As for using crop lenses with fx3 you can always enable the clear zoom and still get a 4K resolution files.
That's the truth, they're all good. Yeah I tried clear image zoom with some APSC lenses and it works well....I actually shot a film like that but unfortunately doesn't work that well for B4 lenses.
@@Altcine I suppose if the original crop is 4 times, even with the internal teleconverter gizmo it will end up closer to x2 :/ Not many FF cameras have two times crop in 4K. Nikon z8/z9 with 45 mpx sensor can. You could even do 3.8K with 2.3 times crop in 100 fps and internal raw. Bit of a beast.
@@LiveMyJourneyTom that's insane man! Never thought I'd need extreme crop like that but here we are. With the Lumix, my plan is to do S35 crop then activate all stabilisation options and I think that just might work.
@@Altcine it should work provided that you can still enable strongest e-Stabilisation in crop mode. Apsc is 1.5 and the crop from high e-stab is 1.4 so together that’s 2.1x
Its funny I think as we are a similar age, somewhere in the 30s, that we saw terrible cameras. cameras and lenses would come out and not even be worth a pot to piss in. Though now people can buy anything from the last 7 years and its decent. for most productions it will do a great job and lenses man people are wild everyone bangs on about this and that and this new lens unlocks creativity perfect optics no breathing and the next month will make a video on why the got a helios. I just side graded my fuji for a c200 to shoot weddings, Gives me raw and NDs XLRs just such a solid camera and when checking the 8 bit footage it actually looks awesome and the Autofocus is good, I dont really use AF but its as bout as good as my fuji was, if not better.
Don’t you find the dynamic range of c200 a bit disappointing? 11 of stops in clog3 and nothing that can be pulled back from the shadows. It has great image but god it needs controlled light. As for the AF I found that it was super solid when it came to tracking humans and rather unreliable for anything else. The 8 bit from it was the best 8 bit I had seen so far.
It's crazy and I've learned that it's 100% not the gear. I've been in that trap where you think the most expensive stuff will produce the best result but I'm going to go out on a limb and say...with camera's it just isn't true. There was a part in this video I cut out and I said that "I've seen work from hobbyists with mediocre gear that would blow away some content creators with high end gear". It's at that point you realise you really can create good stuff with most cams whatsoever the spec.
@@LiveMyJourneyTom I am mostly wanting to use it for a raw workflow and found clog 2 is more than good enough and works absolutely fine, I also believe that has 15 stops though could be wrong and it works on my computer. Storage space is the age old issue though. However with NDs and most situations exposing well (especially in the UK) 11 stops is okay it's not ground breaking and more would be nice. Compared to the Fuji xt4 I had, the pros outweighed the cons and in no means is the C200 perfect and Cfast is still expensive. But it's one hell of a lot potential for the price point on the used market. While I have been super impressed how well the 8 but holds up but also grades and isn't seeing some of the old issues I had with a7s and a7s 2 I had wanted an xh2s for prores and custom modes or a c70 for xlr and NDs. Though I couldn't justify the price. while I was looking found blackmagic cameras massive discount and started to shop around outside of the mirrorless cameras and found the c200 ticked most boxes and I thought this will do the job for now for my business and work. I do want to upgrade and I am looking at a c70 for an A cam and a R8 for a b/c cam with stills. At the end of the day most of my customers will never notice DR and wouldn't know to care for it. So it is more for me and if I can manage for now with the limitation it will be more than good enough for them. Long answer but there we go.
@@heartshapedfilms fair enough. I wanted to see what a proper cinema camera feels like. And I initially quite liked it. In the end whenever I filmed something in contrasty situations I just found that it wasn’t quite up to par with the likes of modern Sony, Lumix etc. Even shooting raw it felt like a step back because while it was grading well and allowed to fix WB etc whenever it came to exposure correction it felt a bit limiting :/ At current prices it’s definitive a lot of camera for the money!
@@LiveMyJourneyTom it's all relative I am not sure I agree that it is limiting in terms of exposure. You can also change the log file from clog 3 to clog 2 it also depends on the situation every camera has limits for me R3D is the best footage I've ever graded. So it will be exciting to see how Nikon will implement that going forward
@@Altcine sounds perfectly fine w me! I told my wife the subject was on green screen and there was no way to expose that sky and subject that good without having some sort of massive lighting setup diffusing the sun on the subject and filling wa bounce or it was all super imposed fake. Those scenes ar so sick! The audio is well all badazz..🤯🫡
@@DroseMr 🤣🤣🙌🏾 I was meant to say in the video that it was all 100% real but forgot. Thankfully I put the clips in at the end. I used fcpx for years but it's been a long time since I touched it...I doubt I'd be able to do this in fcpx.
