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Lumpy Jaw or Abscess? How to tell the difference. 

Enoch the Cow Vet
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Lumpy Jaw (Actinomyces bovis) is very hard to treat. The bacteria hides within bone, stimulating the bone to lay down extra bone, creating hundreds of micro abscesses encased in bone. This makes them very hard to treat. Adding Sodium Iodide to broad spectrum antibiotic therapy can help quite a bit. Abscesses on the other hand are very easy treat and generally heal very easily.

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@heleninglis9961
@heleninglis9961 2 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to explain the differences between the 2 instead of just making a diagnosis, then treating it.
@TheSimba86
@TheSimba86 2 года назад
"First thing I'll do is stick a needle in" Panicky MOO noises
@DeadFront1319
@DeadFront1319 2 года назад
Almost as if he said NOOOOOOOOooo000ooo!!!😁
@LovethroughAbby
@LovethroughAbby 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@dorothyawo9086
@dorothyawo9086 2 года назад
I like the way to talk to the animals & how kind you are. It shows your compassion for them. I'm sure the animals appreciate the way you care for them.
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
Thank you!
@cathybenson5119
@cathybenson5119 3 месяца назад
I agree.😊😊
@beakacalek3765
@beakacalek3765 2 года назад
I’m so glad you are doing more videos. They are always so interesting. I learn a lot.
@NiaJustNia
@NiaJustNia 2 года назад
Loving Enoch's beauty guru presentation of the sodium iodide 😂
@Finallyretired2022
@Finallyretired2022 4 месяца назад
You’re an excellent instructor. A great combo of humor and knowledge. Have to say I’m too sorry it’s lumpy jaw, I was waiting for a great juicy abscess !!
@aprilmatsu508
@aprilmatsu508 2 года назад
I have seen so many vets say lumpy jaw is a death sentence so they put the animal down. I will say it mostly was after the animal had already lost a ton of weight, so I could be wrong that they just diagnosed lumpy jaw and put them down! BUT thank you for showing a different approach and EXPLAINING IT!
@moomoo9611
@moomoo9611 2 года назад
Field class 101 I’m always learning and your always informative. Your simple day to days are our every now and agains (or nevers). Thank you for sharing Love your work
@lynclang
@lynclang 2 года назад
You are always so entertaining and fun to watch, sometimes I forget what what an intelligent, experienced Vet you really are!!
@Betsy-R
@Betsy-R 2 года назад
Love your videos! Your knowledge and sense of humor are both so captivating! I wish you could post more often! ❤️❤️
@Rainybones
@Rainybones 2 года назад
Poor baby. Thank you for taking care of them.
@gormatthew
@gormatthew 2 года назад
Hello from Warwick, England 😂 good video again
@ms.bridges3179
@ms.bridges3179 2 года назад
Thanks for explaining the differences
@theunsteadysteader
@theunsteadysteader 2 года назад
So sorry it was lumpy jaw rather than an abcess. As always, great video Enoch
@johnfulmer740
@johnfulmer740 2 года назад
Poor dude. I had 3 calves this year with abscesses, and I worried each time about it being lumpy jaw.
@donnaviestenz7773
@donnaviestenz7773 2 года назад
Thank you I've learned so much!!!
@sbug2705
@sbug2705 2 года назад
Hey Enoch, I like your channel!
@tanyagarner9015
@tanyagarner9015 Год назад
I appreciate you doing that that’s amazing. I’m curious why don’t you guys give them pain medicine can you imagine how bad that would hurt?
@blazecorp
@blazecorp 2 года назад
Interesting video today, something different.
@porpa282
@porpa282 2 года назад
Very good
@fifipuke
@fifipuke 2 года назад
What concentration is the iodide? What do you dilute it with so producer can give SQ?
@georgejohnsmith
@georgejohnsmith 2 года назад
Have you ever heard about a condition which superficially looks like lump(y) jaw (with a unilateral swelling of the mandible), but the main symptom developing several weeks later is a huge lump under the mandible full of saliva (not pus!)? Literally, a hanging bag of saliva?
@Maya_Pinion
@Maya_Pinion 2 года назад
WOW..... Hope DocE has the time to reply; that's wild.....
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
Howdy George, I reckon that would be called a sialocele. I’ve seen and managed them on dogs and reckon they do happen in cattle as well. When I’ve suspected it, I’ve aspirated a mix of clear fluid and blood… they have been maybe softball sized, yours sounds crazy! They are probably traumatic in origin. I guess we assume they are the result of a salivary gland duct becoming blocked and dumping into tissue rather than into the mouth. Cheers mate!
@georgejohnsmith
@georgejohnsmith 2 года назад
@@EnochtheCowVet Thank you very much! That must be it. When I noted the swelling I immediately suspected mechanical trauma (the animal had to push its head between slanted bars during the winter to feed, the swelling occured on the side where the lower edge of the mandible could hit the bars). I think I own the owner a sharp kick into his testicles. He did not want to pay the vet for a proper examination and treatment, he just decided to slaughter the animal. It could have lived otherwise. Thank you once more, I have learnt something important today.
@angelabullington6116
@angelabullington6116 Год назад
Just out of curiosity, where was the "bag" located exactly, inside or outside the jaw? Was it anterior to the gland?
@georgejohnsmith
@georgejohnsmith Год назад
@@angelabullington6116 See figure 4(A) in this article: pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9c9a/999d784e4548864873b89f1525605bc124c9.pdf
@antoninanderson2015
@antoninanderson2015 2 года назад
Good video doc..lumpy jaw....
@donnaviestenz7773
@donnaviestenz7773 2 года назад
Hopefully he will be ok.
@user-ju8ko3jr8d
@user-ju8ko3jr8d Год назад
where do you buy one of those halters at in the US?
@2nd2non
@2nd2non 2 года назад
So what about the infestations of the Flys will it cause bacteria infection
@dragonthunder2145
@dragonthunder2145 2 года назад
That cow took that iv like crap off a vets back.
@JbirdL2233
@JbirdL2233 Год назад
Can he get well? Or is it managed until the next truck goes out?
@jaybomb8371
@jaybomb8371 2 года назад
🐄 get well soon!!! A happy ending in your videos usually means a baby cow!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha cheers Ausgranny 🇦🇺🇦🇺🤶👍👍👍👍👍🐄
@ismewhat1234
@ismewhat1234 2 года назад
What a super cool video 👍very interesting thanks for sharing MOOOveing 🐮 on 🐄 lol
@max16
@max16 2 года назад
It’s interesting that the cow does not thrash around when it’s head is restrained. It’s like. Oh well. I’m fucked.
@stumpy2816
@stumpy2816 2 года назад
👍👍
@supremium_playa
@supremium_playa 2 года назад
Ohhhh Yess
@___LC___
@___LC___ 2 года назад
Meloxicam doesn’t help that much for me, but hopefully it’s more effective in these bulls.
@SSGTJAB
@SSGTJAB 2 года назад
I know what you mean, I'm on meloxican and it didn't help at all. But now I'm on Percocet and it works great.😁😁
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 9 месяцев назад
@@SSGTJAB Wish you could get that in big glass bottles at the farm store!
@lindasapiecha2515
@lindasapiecha2515 2 года назад
👍😊
@samanthaflynn6140
@samanthaflynn6140 2 года назад
Hey Dr. Did that cow ever heal that you put the castration bands on her neck chest tumor?! Anyone know
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
Yep, there is a follow up video, search “Follow up”
@samanthaflynn6140
@samanthaflynn6140 2 года назад
@@EnochtheCowVet ❤️
@spirityder52
@spirityder52 6 месяцев назад
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@golden51sumlin8
@golden51sumlin8 2 года назад
Why arent they taken care of sooner? Do you have to wait for a certain length of time?
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
Takes a while to get noticed as they don’t come to the yards often. In the big paddocks they live in they tend to move away. Cheers!
@shannonrickard8605
@shannonrickard8605 Год назад
While it's noticeable after he points it out, imagine looking out at a herd of cattle grazing or a herd of cattle moving quickly as a group. Could you pick it out easily? I'm actually impressed the farmer noticed it at all. Dairy cows come through the parlor twice or three times a day and can be looked over closely frequently. Beef cows, not so much.
@jonathanr1891
@jonathanr1891 2 года назад
Is their a way to prevent lumpy jaw in cattle, and I am going assume other feed fed animals?
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
It is caused by sharp feedstuffs such as some plant seeds. Just bad luck!
@jonathanr1891
@jonathanr1891 2 года назад
@@EnochtheCowVet Thanks, was just wondering if it was something could be controlled.
@___LC___
@___LC___ 2 года назад
They are so much more resilient than humans. Osteomyelitis can be fatal for humans, as it’s quick to move on to sepsis.
@leannkennedy6568
@leannkennedy6568 2 года назад
Howdy
@kimwilliamson3615
@kimwilliamson3615 4 месяца назад
Best videos on poo tube!
@user-ze2ux8yq5x
@user-ze2ux8yq5x 3 месяца назад
Hey
@beluxauto5968
@beluxauto5968 2 года назад
The few cases I have witnessed did not end well. To be totally honest, no treatment is started. Do not be offended by that statement. I guess it is a different "business"? approach.
@samanthasimental3788
@samanthasimental3788 2 года назад
How the neck did you end up in Australia.
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
Good luck and a failed engagement!
@samanthasimental3788
@samanthasimental3788 2 года назад
@@EnochtheCowVet lucky us!
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
I had no idea how diverse Australia is! Came for a year… been here a couple of decades!
@user-pq2pq3dy6h
@user-pq2pq3dy6h Год назад
Why do people wait so long before getting treatment
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet Год назад
Often you don’t see lumps etc. until you yard them. They live on thousands of acres and don’t come up to you when you are checking water, feed, or fencing. The good ones do get us out… like this awesome young man!
@user-pq2pq3dy6h
@user-pq2pq3dy6h Год назад
@@EnochtheCowVet thousands of acres now that's a way to live. I am a huge animal lover. I love animals more then people. It really seems hard to find lumps some of them I would imagine you won't see them until you brush them. Thank you for responding and education sir. Give you guys credit that would be to hard for me to do. I would be so afraid I would hurt them. Thank you for your time.
@samschneider9524
@samschneider9524 2 года назад
Looks like burger on the hoof to me
@Maya_Pinion
@Maya_Pinion 2 года назад
OMG 😳!!!!!! The truth hurts 🤕
@lokilvr5387
@lokilvr5387 2 года назад
I didnt know cows could get lumpy jaw. Ive only see vids with kangaroo’s who have had it!….. hope he feels better soon x
@Boyland8692
@Boyland8692 2 года назад
Only happy endings!! 🤣🤣🤣
@jimhenn6197
@jimhenn6197 2 года назад
Didn't mean to stress you out
@devynglass3781
@devynglass3781 2 года назад
Wonder if he’s married. He’s handsome ☺️
@EDungarian
@EDungarian 5 месяцев назад
Do they get euthanized when treatment fails?
@jeremiahmiller6431
@jeremiahmiller6431 2 года назад
Sad that it was lumpy jaw, even if the antibiotics work he's never going to regain his best condition, and that means he's off to the Happy Pasture In The Sky and someone's dinner plate sooner rather than later
@Maya_Pinion
@Maya_Pinion 2 года назад
🤔 hmmmmm,wondering if I would like digging into a juicy 🥩 steak that came from a beast that was culled cause he had lumpy jaw.....looks NASTY 🤢
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
If we catch them early enough, they treatment works. This guy flew under the radar too long. The farmer, (an exceptionally good one), picked him out of the mob as he was starting to slip in condition. But, as you said, it is of the size, we might struggle to get on top of this one.
@ivyproaps8478
@ivyproaps8478 2 года назад
Hey there! Enoch the cow vet ,( or any body!) . I know that you mainly work on cows but I have a horse with a huge cancer like thing on his penis. It just keeps getting bigger .He is an older horse but besides the cancer he is still in really good shape. Got any ideas?
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
Yikes, this could be either a melanoma on a grey horse or a squamous cell carcinoma, regardless I would get a hold of your local vet as soon as possible. There are some therapeutics for both, and some adjunctive therapy to potentially slow it down, radical surgical options (as radical as you might be imagining) and lastly, products to help him once he does become painful if things worsen. Regardless, your veterinarian is your horses best friend, get him or her involved (if you haven’t already). I sure hope they can help you and your horse. I hope this helps.
@ivyproaps8478
@ivyproaps8478 2 года назад
@@EnochtheCowVet thank you so much for answering! We had him to our vet about seven months ago to get his teeth floated ( he was in really ruff shape at that time but has sence bloomed out in spite of the cancer) and he noticed the cancer than. He told us as old as he was he was basically on hospice. He is a good vet but I had just thought I'd get a second opinion. Thank you again.
@Julie-kq7pm
@Julie-kq7pm Год назад
Respectfully, that man is hot AF!
@dianegherman9785
@dianegherman9785 2 года назад
I think this is a bull.... when is life span ends will his meat be viable? What would be for a hefer?
@EnochtheCowVet
@EnochtheCowVet 2 года назад
That is a steer my friend. Hopefully he will recover, then enjoy a beautiful yet relatively short life. If he doesn’t recover he will be euthanized before he begins to suffer.
@constancecondit4349
@constancecondit4349 Год назад
Poor cow hurts.
@CrcclipsfnB
@CrcclipsfnB 4 месяца назад
Why do you not ever wear gloves
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