LUO [of Kenya 🇰🇪] vs ALUR [of Congo 🇨🇩] Language Comparison 

Yeah, the languages are closer than i imagined. I’m just ashamed that they never teach this in schools and so majority of us grew up completely ignorant of the luo presence in Uganda

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😂😂😂. That's true. I've interacted with the Alurs of Uganda and I didnt struggle a bit in holding a convo with them.

I think the Padhola Luo language is closest to the Kenyan Luo than the rest

@@silvanskodingo5221 have you heard jonam

maybe it will be better if EAC is actualised

My prayer too. We are alone in Kenya.

Lango from Uganda I totally agree..

Unless yourè also praying that the borders will also be disbanded some day

My prayer... The system was designed to devide and manipulate

Because he doesn't speak English. He's a francophone while I'm an anglophone. So we had a language barrier to some extent.

All of them?🤔

@@KPtravels001 somehow all u could do a group interview or try elderly people they have another version of most of this luo but the interviewed really tried their best considering most people this days have adopted English and it's widely spoken and slowly it's diluting the little we knew of our language

Yeah, it's surprising how many we are 😊

It's all very interesting. The deeper I go the more I realize how big the luo family is. It's like one episode opens doors to other hidden rooms

it's so fascinating!

@@KPtravels001 I would love to see all groups in one room, I hear there are groups in Nigeria such as the Igbo that may share the same cultural and linguistic similarities?

@@billtev9846 after doing all the subtribes I'll try to do them all together

Iriek omera

Abidek is 8 used in bar el ghazel and among the shilluk in Sudan. Aboro is also 8

Thank you and praise is different I believe. #Apwoyo is praise, #erokamano is thank you. In other words, #apwoyo is a commendation. I maybe wrong.

@@odochokee9856 This is it. You people still hold the original words. Meaning the words "abidek" can be used interchangeably with "aboro"?

@@maasaimaasai2895 if apwoyo is praise, then what's "apako"?

Yeah you are very right. National languages of the various countries have influenced not just the pronunciations but also the alphabet.

you are totally right it has happened to Luo of gambella bin Ethiopia and acholi in ssd

I have already interviewed kumam and Lango. Only Anyuak remaining

But do you speak luo?

Thank you. I'm still wondering how we ended up with "ochiko" 😊

Well, we'll effect that 😊

One day it will happen, 🙂😉

Wacha uongo. Azimio la Umoja was a parralel political development to Tanzania Azimio's. It was a national thinking But of course Jaramogi was keen on bringing various branches of Luos together from even before independence. It had nothing to do with Azimio la Umoja that he later coined.

Glad he failed, only the Kenyan state and the Kenyan project should be preserved, not the Luo nation.

@@thedante7722 bruv seen you all over Kaizo and other channels. Are Luo Men on your mind all day? And they emerging new leaders for the future like me 😂 hopefully I don't fail lol. U probably jealous you just a small kukuyu tribe in only central Kenyan Luo are international 😂

Some claim that luo of Kenya is a combination of small groups from each of the other luo subtribes

@@KPtravels001 that's true eg the Siranga people of Ugenya are descended from Rang'a who was the son of Olum who's the progenitor of the Alur. The Nyakwar( Kanyakwar) descendants of Adhola who's the ancestor of the Padhola(K'Adhola). Effectively, the Nyakwar are Padhola.

​@@KPtravels001Luos of Kenya even assimilated non Luos.

All almost the same as us.

Odoch, in Ja Alur koso Acholi?

@@KPtravels001 an abedo Acoli do.

Luo is a collective term, Luo people came from nuer, but Luo was never used before, it has helped keep the identity.

Nuer people of south Sudan living in kenya,their names are phonetically resembling those of luo ,like nya----,besides riek machar can are luo words.

shilluk is very similar to Acholi. Even Anyuak is closer to Acoli and other luo languages of northern uganda. In grammar as well as in Vocubulary it is almost completely identical with Acholi. In fact an Acholi could understand Anyuak and make himself understood within a few hours. Shilluk is the most difficult of Luo tongues.

Anyuak represents the oldest of Luo tongues

@@odochokee9856 Lol ! you should be interviewd on these, you know a lot already

Migration was in groups , waves or clans. Most clans and groups congregated in Acholi and then dispersed from there

Very right 🙏🙏

Thank you so much😊

Yeah, we're closer than imagined before

Yes brother

Thank you so much Connie

If you speak dhopadhola then you're already 93% fluent in luo of Kenya. Watch my recent video and you'll see this

Thanks "mundu wa nyumba " 😉😉. I've got some suggestions about luos of South Sudan and so yes, I'll try to go for them

@@KPtravels001 try shilluk(collo); Luo in wau wrongly referred to as Jurchol; The Pari just across the uganda birder who some people in error call Lokoro; also other Luo tribes in Bar el Ghazal. Also in uganda you need to interview the Jonam; the JopaLuo sometimes known as chope; the Jabwor (labwor);Nyakwai; Lango ;and Kumam

@@KPtravels001 also particularly pay attention Bor-Belanda and compare it closely with Luo of Kenya

@@KPtravels001 interestingly Andu A Nyumba also have the prefix 'Nya' for someone feminine. I really enjoy such content, and while there is a lot coming from Bantu languages, yours is a much needed effort towards studying Nilotic languages

@AN-Nuke M yeah. Though before colonisation there were internal immigration. However, colonization cemented the national borders and this prevented the tribes from re-interacting as they had to assume their newly instilled national identities

Yeah that's true. The morphological description is accurate. Which language do you speak though?

@@KPtravels001 thanks bro for replaying.. I speak Maba which is apart of Maban subgroup of Nilo Saharic language .. I managed find some similar words between Maba and Luo like in Luo the name for cow is "diang" in my language "deg" ..brother in Luo "mera" in my language "mer" .. my mother in Luo "Minwa" in my language "Minig".. I extracted these 2 words from les than half hour video in Luo what if we sad down and made long comparison.. plus the similarities not only in words but in how sentences are constructed or the syntax also in the tones

@@muddathironly123 maba is in which country sir!

@@hayatimofire4852 Maba are situated between Tchad and Sudan so we both Sudanese and Chadian people.... if you check Nilo Saharic people map you will find we share the a Nile and sub Sahara map

Yes that's kinda true but modern Nilo-Saharans are mixed for a great part. Congo, Kenya and Tanzania Luos are more Niger-Congo in genetics than Nilotic due to their constant assimilation of Bantus, you can see it in the phenotype of these two fellows. The Maba are less admixed but they're still something like 20%Niger-Congo(not from Bantu but Ubangian and other Sahelians)

Erokamano. Please share with friends and family

Yes, Alur (both Okoro and Par Diere), Jonam and Padhola are the closest to luo of Kenya and Tanzania.

Lembe Ber makes umirs

Aaron, are you Alur ja par diere or Jonam?

Greetings from Kenya. Could you give me a source for your information about the Venda in Kenya?

You're welcome. For the love of the luo tribes

Yeah, he was little bit of a city boy and I couldn't rule out language barrier too. He speaks French while I speak English and so it was difficult to make clarifications 😊

Yeah so much still need to be unraveled

Unfortunately I did this video in Goma. I would have loved to go to ituri but the war situation in Eastern Congo is very ugly

Oooh yeah, I never imagined luo being present in Congo

I like sud-kivu. I was in Bukavu in July this year

@@KPtravels001 amazing

Thank you brother. It's a journey of self discovery

Yes, Lango is slightly distant compared to luo of kenya, padhola, Alur etc

@@KPtravels001 But all in all we're one blood 🥰🥰🥰🥰

Ethiopia is my next destination. I might need real people on the ground to help me when I arrive though

Interesting! Let’s see how Anywaa compares to Luo of Kenya when i get there😄

Thank you. Help me reach out to more people. Share with friends

Say no more😂😂

Give me a maximum of 2 days😉😉

I will certainly do this. The clock is ticking

Yes find this person from Ethiopia and compare 🙏

@@KPtravels001 did you do it?

Thank you so much. Erokamano🙏

@@KPtravels001 Machiegni Nyakwar Ramogi. An bende an Ja Omabei Kaonti.

How many Acholi subgroups exist?

@@KPtravels001 there are about 3 main subgroups: each subgroup may be divided into other subgroups. 1. Subgroup 1 whose speech shous some common peculiarities of pronouncing words and verbal forms which may be traced as far South as Luo in Kenya and TZ, Jonam, Alur, . It may be divided into 3 groups (a)Lamogi, Pagak, Paboo, Paweel as well as Atyak, Oruba, oyuu and Palaro in uganda western Acholi (b) then from Acwaa river to the border with south Sudan: Palabeek, Padibe, Lokung, Agoro (c) in south Sudan across the border : Paikwara, Agoro(with opfrika, omeeo , imuru, joigara), magwii, Oboo, Pajok, Palwar, Lomorati, Lobone. 2.The group in Central Acholi in uganda which may be regarded as standard as regards language legal customs relative purity of Luo origin and general traditions. It includes Patiko, Alero, Bwobo, Payira, Paicoo, Paibona, Alokolum, Ariia. 3. The third group is closely connected to the Jopaluo(Dhopaluo) in terms of language elements. They include (a) south and south eastern Acholi comprising of Koc, Koro, Puranga, Minakulu( Pamoa,Kamdini), (b)in Eastern Acholi north of river Acwaa: La-bongo, Pajule, Agago ,Acholi-bur, Gem, Nyadyang, Arumo,Okoor, Pader, Kitgum-matidi, Okaka, wol, Lira Amiel,Lira-Paluo, Patongo, Adilang, Paimol, omia-pacwa, Omia-Anyima, Namokoora, Cwaa mucwini ,Oroom, Okool .Okuti

Hello Rose, Let's hope you'll find some. I'm optimistic

Thank you so much 😘

Asante sana. Bila shaka inawezekana

I find Alur much closer to the luo of Kenya than Acholi.

I’m using luo of Kenya as the point of reference

This is the big question 😂😂

Could "Ochiko" literally mean "towards" 10, considering our number system is pivoting around two key numbers: 5 & 10?

'Towards' makes a lot of sense for me

Thank you so much. Please share my channel with your friends and family. I want to reach as many luos as possible

Hahaha I agree. There’s a thin line between a language and a dialect

Hahahaha I'm looking for an answer to this. The Luo of Kenya are the odd one out...Anyway, I think you meant "abong'wen "

Ochiko in Acholi Luo dialect means he directed himself to... e.g ociko yoo paco means he set himself in the direction of home. Ochiko could also mean he warned

@@KPtravels001 The answer to "Abogwen" is right there. Mathematically 👇 Abich(5) + An'gwen(4) = Abo gi An'gwen (9) Contract the Abich gi/+ An'gwen into "AboGaN'gwen"

@@KPtravels001 Have you visited the Anywak of Ethiopia, they come from Gambela Town in Ethiopia, I think their Luo(Dho Anywak) is the closest to Kenyan Luo, even far closer than DhoPadhola

Thanks for the suggestion Patrick. I will go to Gambella, Ethiopia and then come to South Sudan

Ooh yeah, that's right. I got mixed up 😊

You're welcome nyamera 😊

Yeah just in Uganda and Kenya you count over 13 million alone.

Very big, I get surprised a lot when I do my interviews. Luo is bigger than we think. I do have the responsibility to help every luo in whatever country to know that we are many out here spread out in different countries. Kindly share my videos widely and let every luo get enlightened

More like A Nation than just Community...

I can connect U with many of them are in Uganda

J and R, I already interviewed an Acholi. You can check my second last video

Erokamano osiepa

With the Congolese it was abit difficult because of language barrier. We had no common language 😊

Thank you. Help me share widely.

Yeah, I already do alot with the family relationships

Very international 😂😂

Mr Rowland am seeing u

I think the luo of Kenya use both "niang &tiang" interchangeably

That's right and logical. But, what's the derivation for "ochiko" ?

Hello, I wish we could have but I am out of Kenya already 😭. We might be lucky next time

Watch our RU-vid channel Joluo of bhar el ghazal wau , send me your contact for more information

Thanks so much. I learned more too from conducting these interviews

Thank you😄. Sometimes I get mixed up

One laguage

Yeah, surprisingly so. I was surprised to find luos in Ituri, North Kivu, Eastern Congo 😊

Thank you. Going to the villages in Congo was not easy because there's war going on. Mostly the rebels are in control of the villages in Congo

Thank you Wilsonk

Hello Josh, The best way is to go and live in the Alur regions for sometimes. Or better still watch my videos for some vocabulary build up

Where did you grow up from or among which community? Or which languages do you speak?

In Congo it's not easy because they speak French while I speak English....our only common language is swahili but again, Congolese swahili is different.

Wan wan wan. Luo is bigger than ever imagined.

I need to know more about the luo of South Sudan. Send me a private message on email or Facebook

Alur Okoro to be precise.

Ofcourse😉😉. I have to Interview every single luo subtribe in this planet

What should I use instead?

Amosi is the equivalent of Amoti I.e I greet you. Erokamano is the equivalent of eyo-kong-kumeno which is a farewell expression. Oriti might have originated from riti which means to force someone or put someone under pressure. I am writing from the perspective of Acholi Luo

@@odochokee9856 oriti ="let him/her wait/protect you". The him in this case is God. So oriti is basically "Let him [God] protect you "

@@odochokee9856 let me rephrase what I was saying is Kenyan Luo is a mix since people come from different tribes Acholi, Japadhola, Alur etc. So if a word does not match he can use another one instead of insisting that's what we use here coz we use a variety of words to mean the same thing

@@ms.j970 it was clans not tribes. There were several clans which converged in Acholi land prior to dispersing

Apar acel is 11. Apar is 10 and Acel is 1

@@KPtravels001 both your words for story "hadizi"? In Arabic "Hadith" is a story and Islam they have the hadiths. In Yoruba they call the devil bilisi, in Arabic it's iblis. There's a lot of connection

Yes, that’s true

You're sharp😊

Where did we get the "ochiko" from? 😀

hahaha why? Believe me, I smiled reading this😀.

Is this Anuak?

@@KPtravels001 Yes

@@mesaelo.okongo8586 thanks. I'll have them covered soon

@@KPtravels001 You can find them in Ruiru, Kenya.

@@mesaelo.okongo8586 thanks but I prefer to drink from the source

In South Nyanza, they are used interchangeably

@@KPtravels001 by the young. I also have a foothold in South Nyanza.

I do not know why people keep making mistakes despite efforts to correct them. In Acholi tyaang is really durra stalk I.e tyaang gaya and niang is sugar cane. By people particularly in the town and urban areas keep making mistakes. You correct them but they d not we to listen. My grand parents and Parents spoke the right vocabulary but these at a I a really shocked by the way youths speak and refuse to learn

@@odochokee9856 people are often lazy and don't want to be bothered to change the bad habits they're used to.

@@aduwopbarack1050 yet when it is a language like English or kiswahili people are quick to change their habits

Thanks for this. the only hindrance is that there's a possibility of a language barrier as I go deeper into the villages

Now you do. Luo is bigger than initially imagined

If he was from Nebbi Uganda he could atleast speak English 😂. He's from Ituri, Congo

@@KPtravels001 let’s be very honest here.. I am an Alur from Nebbi padyere county who has done rec business in Congo n their are no Alurs in ituri .. in i jagobi..

@@janamito3713 my sister I don't mean to be rude but have you done a census in ituri to determine there are no luos in ituri. He says he did the interview in ituri, let's leave it at that.

Those are tough questions up there and need answers 😀

Yes and a No. Jonam, want to identify independently. They recently swore in their KER/ Kwar Jonam.