Lutron’s NEW 2022 Smart Dimmers Fix ALMOST Everything! 

Your not wrong...there beyond crazy money now..and this isn't new technology..I mean it has nice features but how often do we really change the brightness level. Usually set it and forget it...sorry lutron

I just use non smart dimmers now. So much better than smart for most situations.

Absolutely agree. The price is outrageous.

this crap is a straight rip off lmao.

@@USNEM ; While I wouldn't call it "crap", if its as good as the current Lutron Caseta line which I consider among the best. Installed many of them here and they've never given me any problems. But I certainly do agree that price is ridiculous.....

Also you can also use the Pico as a three way switch with these new ones too. Sorry if I wasn’t clear about that in the video. But I might be doing the same thing as you.

Not needing a Pico (still have that option but Pico remotes use Maestro aesthetics, not Diva) drastically reduces the device count. Also, the companion dimmer/switch is roughly the same $20 that a Pico remote is so cost wise, it’s a wash, worst case.

Lutron has an add-on motion sensor for there caseta line.

You can pair a Lutron Maestro Occupancy/Vacancy Dimmer Switch with a Lutron Caseta switch in a 2 way configuration to get part of this functionality (not particularly cost effective agreed). The Occupancy sensor status can be seen from the Lutron App and the state can be changed but you don't have app control of the sensor parameters or the dimming level and you can't within the Lutron ecosystem trigger events from it (from other integrations you may be able to).

Tp- link Kasa makes a single pole motion dimmer switch

@@paulnsharon5641 Ah-thanks for the tip! As it would happen, I don’t believe that there’s full Home Assistant support for those, but other than that, those look pretty promising.

Not sure if it helps, but I think Leviton makes a Wi-Fi Decora dimmer with motion sensor

Yep Raj … I’m in the same situation. Ugh

I just spent under a grand for all new Caserta. 😳

@@johndoe6032 this decora form factor for lighting switches has been around for a _very_ long time - well before smart switches were a thing - so I think you're safe with this look.

Raji, just because they made a new version doesn’t mean you have to convert to it.

@@anthonywall1228 I understand that. I’m just saying I would’ve like to have had this version to begin with, but such is life.

LOL, $70 is waaaay less than anything from Lutron's RadioRa 3 line, or their QSX line. It is also less than anything from Vantage or Control4 or Crestron by at least half. Sure there are some off-brand products that are cheaper, but they don't work as well. These things are a bargain at $70.

@@JasonBrown527 I have to disagree, there are a lot of very good smart switches out there if all you are grading it by is functionality of controlling lights. When comparing good switches to good switches what benefit is Lutron offering? Brand name and cosmetics? That's not worth $70 to me.

@@LifeWithMatthew Those cheap $20-30 dimmers typically use wi-fi to communicate. Not a big deal when you only have a few. But Caseta, which is Lutron's smallest system, supports up to 75 devices. Wi-Fi based switches would significantly slow down most networks if you had even 20 or 30 devices. ClearConnect operates at 434 MHz which does not interfere with Wi-Fi or Bluetooth or Zigbee, which are all sharing the same RF space. And Lutron has been making dimmers longer than anyone. They actually patented it in 1959. They have tried and tested more light bulbs for compatibility than any other manufacturer. Chances are that if you buy a dimmable bulb that lists any known compatibility the list of verified dimmers will be 70% Lutron devices. So if you want to buy something and know that it will actually work, but a Lutron. If you want to save a few bucks and roll the dice, have at it. Either way, $70 for this dimmer is NOT "ludicrous".

@@JasonBrown527 happen to know what an RA3 Sunnata dimmer goes for? I’m starting to think Lutron is intentionally withholding the Sunnata devices from the DIY market but then again, it’s available as a “dumb” switch/dimmer for $40. Considering the $10 price difference between Sunatta and Diva dumb devices, and the $10 hike for Diva aesthetics in a Caseta device, I don’t understand why we couldn’t have Sunatta devices on the Caseta platform.

@@JasonBrown527 Hey, I'm glad you found a brand that you love and trust, but you're not going to convince me that my own smart home set up, with quite a few devices, that is stable and very responsive is in fact broken and has huge delays. The only benefit to the Lutron I see over an equivalent device, of which there are quite a few, is the brand name and slightly superior cosmetic design. And since I can easily have equivalent devices for 1/3 the cost ludicrous is the only adjective I feel adequately describes that price point. But you do you, man.

Totally agree. The biggest problem with Insteon was the garbage software. Otherwise it was a great system.

@@peterh222 I use the ISY, and it's hard to use, but does everything. I do wish they had a good app though.

The Caseta ELV+ dimmer (PD-5NE) has the same button layout as the Pico and can handle a 250W LED load

@@VivanShah and have you seen the price is double! ? Should be included.

Inovelli Blue 2-1

I feel your pain!

I love that feature too! But yeah the price is definitely steep.

No way it stays at this level as that is crazy price vs the many, many competing options. Imagine it will be $50 or less very soon.

Chris - is there a wiring diagram you could share? Had an electrician try to wire traditional dimmer with sonoff mini2 and couldn't get it to work.

@@damonwynne2098 The Hookup has done a couple of good videos on this. It doesn’t control the dimming functions though. Just the power. www.thesmarthomehookup.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Shelly1.jpg www.thesmarthomehookup.com/beginners-guide-to-shelly-relays-choose-the-right-relay-for-the-job/

@@curtisbme I doubt anything is changing in the near future. Caseta has always sold on reliability and connectivity. The VAST majority of competitive devices are WiFi and that just isn’t a good solution for dozens of low-bandwidth devices. We are just beginning to see Thread switches and dimmers trickle out and they do not offer much in capability or companion devices compared to Lutron.

About time! I have been quite critical of their old Caseta dimmer switches here and elsewhere as being too cheap and not at all well designed. Also wondered what was holding them back from integrating the smart technology into the Diva design that has been around forever to begin with - maybe they wanted to have a "disruptive design" but I feel if it ain't broken, don't fix it.. If they had introduced the Smart switch in the Diva form factor sooner, I would have invested in those and NOT have as many Kasa light switches in the house. And even now, I would hesitate switching over since the value of the Kasa switches is much better than the Lutron. Will be interesting to see how well these new switches are adopted with so much competition already in the smart switches space. BTW, are these (or going to be) Matter compatible?

It’s not online ????

What's the model number for the dimer and on/off switch or link to Home Depot?

I just bought a GE Cync that's a no-neutral wire as well. About 60% of the price.

@@marcesw35 any link?

I'm planning to try that out soon when it's available!

@@SmartHomeSolver please do a review and compare. The Inovelli has a smart bulb mode to work with smart bulbs. Can also bind to zigbee smart bulbs elimination that Huu

@@SmartHomeSolver looking forward to your thoughts on it!

Preordered an Inovelli white dimming switch. It’s Matter over Thread.

The best you can get but if people complain about $70 then $300 per load is sticker shock. Worth it for those who can afford it.

Worth it until it’s “obsolete” or discontinued like many of there other systems and devices

I agree fully. I have Sunnata and Caseta switches and really wish I could make them all smart Sunnatas. The form factor is incredible.

Yes! Give me smart Sunnatas!

@@DrawTheLine35 they exist, but only in the RA3 and HomeWorks product lines.

@@GoFastGator Good to know!

@@GoFastGator quick question - in a 3-way switch config, can you have a Caseta Wireless Diva Dimmer on one wall and a dumb Sunnata dimmer on another wall and still control that light remotely via Caseta? I'm assuming yes?

I presume they will be coming out with those soon. I'm in the same boat.

If you only want one, $70 is acceptable. It’s way to much for any average homeowner to entertain outfitting a house. They’re pricing themselves out of the larger market.

Just installed the diva today with a halo 4 inch LED recessed lighting fixture. Both are brand new and the LED bulbs still flicker unless I don’t dim them too much. Just fyi.

I feel the pain!

I had high hopes for Zooz, but I just returned a bunch of them and opted for a Caséta system instead. The Zooz switches were a PITA to connect to my smart home, and I gave up after the first few that all gave me trouble. My Caséta switches, on the other hand, all connected immediately to their hub.

Lutron's Caseta (and I assume new Caseta/Diva) switches can do this too. They show instructions for 2-way wiring set-ups with traditional 2 way switches - but don't advertise 3+ way because the Caseta switch cannot be in the middle - however it can be placed at either end (hot feed or load end) and the instructions apply. Realistically it doesn't matter where it is.

@@alanmoore2197 I can’t thank you enough for sharing this. I’ve always liked their build quality and was frustrated that it felt like I was being locked into their ecosystem. Thank you!

@@davidc-l9174 my experience was different. I have heard others state the same, so I’m wondering what I did that others didn’t, or maybe what I didn’t do that other did. Tough to know. Are you using the Lutron hub or something else?