Alex, have to say been researching a large luxury car for years before finally pulling the trigger on a G90. Thank you for bringing this car to light for me!!! I think I watched your review at least 10 times, along with several others, before I took this leap of faith in this unknown car. Is it perfect, no not at all. Is it better than the competition, to me, yes it is! Truly amazing car!! Is value a luxury, well yes I truly think it is! To know I paid $50K for a CPO car with only 6K miles that is pure luxury on all aspects makes me smile every time I drive it! That value aspect for the luxury I am enjoying makes me feel like I can have my cake and eat it too! Even if you have an unlimited budget we all have a sense of wanting the most for our dollar. When we know we have received the best deal on something that is the best product it multiplies the enjoyment quotient ten fold! Just an opinion.
Even in luxury, value and reliability are important to me. I'm definitely not the type of person who would buy a big luxury sedan, but if I were, I would easily choose the G90.
I really like the way you test your vehicle., you do not seem to be biased, you're test are complet and you compared them with the direct competition, I watch everyone of your videos as the come out, they are so interesting and up to date! Peter from Qc.
After researching the ish out of this, I'm going for a V6 RWD G90. I'm pragmatic about luxury--I care about the driving experience, value, and reliability, and don't care at all about brand or what the neighbors think. To answer Alex's question about luxury and value, I think it depends it depends on whether you care about impressing people. if so, luxury and value are polar opposites. For those of us who only care about impressing ourselves, luxury *and* value is the sweet spot. Thanks for targeting me, Genesis! :-)
We own two Lexus vehicles: a 1992 SC300 and a 2015 ES300h. The '92 was considered a "value" when purchased new at $37K back in 1992. It was compared favorably to Mercedes coupes costing much more at the time. Genesis' pricing has definitely caught my eye and they may very well get me on board with them for either a sedan or an SUV in the next few years.
Then you have no appreciation for what REAL quality build and craftsmanship is. You are the guy who sips wine from a $1000 bottle and thinks it tastes the same as something from your grocery store. As an S Class owner for many decades..I have the taste and refinement to know my MB vehicle is built with the best materials and craftsmanship. Unlike a "luxury" vehicle from Hyundai built with cheap materials and electronics. Or..you are just lying and are being paid by Hyundai to post this..since your post sounds like a commercial. Either way..you are wrong and ridiculous to compare an S Class..which is considered the finest luxury vehicle in the world..to the latest cheap "luxury" offering from bargain brand Hyundai.
@@Nightbird. it's funny how you talk about yourself... Well, you got my full name here, you can find me on Facebook or Instagram and check out my vehicles, I own a W222 and a W140 as well as other cars. Don't say the quality of MB when the quality comes only when you pay the extra premium on additional equipment, try the base E class and see how It doesn't really shine. Also, I have a very good experience with the first gen genesis 4.6 V8 that served my father well for over 100k miles with no issues at all, something that I can't say about my W222, which is amazing but comes with many annoying quirks. Quality for me is by the product and not the name alone, now tell me, your car interior squeak, is that another luxury feature?
@@Nightbird. also, I said that I'll pick something else other than a new S class, in order for me to trade my W222 for something similar I'll have to pay 150k, which can cover a G90 and a used R8.
@@Nightbird. "how dare you insult me by saying a cheaper option compares to my expensive toy." Lmao, shut your pretentious ass up dude. Enjoy your car let ppl like what they like.
I had disc replacement surgery in my neck. Driving for me now is uncomfortable. I went to my local genesis dealership here and Michigan and i had a chance to test a G90. I've never been in a more comfortable vehicle. Once I'm medically retired from Ford, this will definitely be a purchase for me.
if you want comfort and smoothness, you should drive the lexus ES that car is luxurious, very reliable, great resale value, has great power, roomy and super super smooth and costs way less then this.
@@hassansmw5634 Does the LS500 have the same kind of adjustable headrest and seat that the G90 does? He drove the Genesis and is happy with it. Are you a Lexus sales rep or something?
@@hassansmw5634 i do like the LS500. But i made one online and it ended up being 105k lol. I'll admit the Lexus has more tech and features. But for the price the G90 is unbeatable. I just wish it had a glass roof.
This is automotive equivalent of a Mob consigliere. The capo might have a S-class, but the Genesis does ALL of the intimidation. Wheels are actually intricate and beautiful. The diamond pattern repeats in the grille, wheels, and interior.....
The Hyundai/Kia group is really moving the needle! My 2017 Kia Optima SXL is so great to drive on long trips or a quick trip to Lake Tahoe from Reno...Lots of sharp turns and huge elevation gains from the valley floor to lake side and the 2.0 Turbo is always ready! Thanks Alex!
This car looks so stunning in person with such a presence. Love the wheels and the NA V8. I'd take this over everything in its class except the S Class which is saying a lot in my opinion as it costs literally double of the G90. Alex should not talk about style or what looks good. It's crazy to think this was only a "refresh" and not the best generation. Can't wait to see what they do next when looking at what they did with the G80 interior
Perhaps in 2021 BUT for 2020, an absolutely surprising winner of "Luxury Car Of The Year"; the Ram 1500 Laramie PICKUP TRUCK! Not my cup of tea in vehicles but the Interior IS absolutely gorgeous.
Lexus what Lexus? I thought Lexus was dead… genesis has essentially ended Lexus altogether. The question is “why does Lexus still even exist? They should have been eradicated off the earth”
I really like the new Genesis lineup. When can we expect an updated G70? One of my reservations about Genesis is that it does not have a separate dealer network, like Lexus, which provides a really excellent buyer and customer service experience. Here, in Texas you buy and service your Genesis at a Hyundai dealer.
I own the 2020 G90 3.3T AWD. She's very nice with plenty of power to get up and go. The interior is truly luxury. I've had the S600 (4 door) and for the price the G90 stacks up nicely. I didn't go for the V8 for I have kids and didn't want them to have that much control from the back seat! ;)
If you go onto Genesis forums, you quickly find out that they have not got the customer service down yet. Many owners are dissatisfied. People who are buying these vehicles expect to be treated well and to not have issues. It seems like a lot of folks can't wait to get out of their leases. As there are not many Genesis dealers, most people will service their vehicles at a Hyundai dealership. And be treated like Hyundai owners. And it's just not working out. And Genesis is in no hurry to fix customer issues.
I had 2 BMW 7 series, 3 S class and 2 GL plus a couples of 5 series, oh almost forgot that I am 63. I just got a G90 ultimate. Besides lack of massage chairs, panoramic roof and manual moon roof cover, this vehicle is actually very nice. Performance and luxury accessories are great. Dashboard layout is slightly antiquated. Otherwise it is a great powerful vehicle. Certainly save me quite a few dollars on three years of expenses including maintenance. Who knows, may stay with this brand for good.
I haven’t driven the Lexus but I would definitely entertain the Genesis. I don’t believe like you said that the G90 competes evenly with the Germans. They’re all more performance oriented dynamically while the G90 seems to be going the luxury focused route. I’m also value minded. I don’t fee like the German luxury vehicles are value buys. They’re emotional buys. You’re essentially paying the car company to make you feel better. I think I can manage that better on my own.
I think they skipped air suspension for durability, it’s one of the most common and expensive breakdowns in luxury cars. There’s few feelings worse than coming out to a “beached” Mercedes or Range Rover in the morning...
Re: Wheels - reminds me of a modern interpretation of the "Road Wheels" that used to be popular on giant American Luxury sedans in the 60s and 70s. A solid disk wheel with logo in center.
It's impressive what Genesis is offering. I think it beats the others hand down if you consider value or don't care as much on brand recognition. I love the new styling direction that kind of has a Bentley vibe or presence.
Gorgeous interior and exterior reliability is a 10! Traditional spring set up is the way to go, Genesis know what it's doing regarding reliability, Mercedes benz S-Class is a nightmare out of Warranty especially the air suspension that's why most if the older ones are sitting on the ground or in the junk yard. Unless you are a car enthusiasts or know someone that specializes in german vehicles, as soon as that vehicle has issues the average person takes it to the dealer they are going to run away from the service bill, when something like especially the air suspension starts having problems raising the vehicle.
Great review Alex. I am not rich lol so I think this is more in line with the Volvo S90 T8 in terms of price and features. How do you think they compare to each other?
Hey MB, BMW, Audi and Lexus take note. This is as good as your stuff for a lot less money! Like the old Packard ads used to say "ask a man who owns one". Well I'm "a man that owns one" and am on my second G90 and I didn't even look at anything else when I replaced my 2017 G90 5.0 AWD with my new 2020 G90 5.0 AWD. Great cars at a great price. If you can live without the "prestige" of a MB, BMW or Audi do yourself a favor and take one for a test drive before you buy anything else.
I think value and luxury are opposites but the ground that separates them is a lot narrower in this case of the LS or G90 pick. I would literally have to drive both and then think for awhile to pick between the two cars, I think it’s that close
@@김동준-t9p Why? Guess you think the Mercedes is a better car. It is not. have owned many MBs. Every one has been plagued with problems. Friend just bought new S560. Been in for service 1.5 weeks out of first 6. Couldn't even inflate the tires correctly upon delivery.
@@normt430 From all these videos I've watched, the CT6 is a better drivers car. If you are being driven, the G90 is more comfortable. So if I was buying one to drive, yeah, I'd probably choose the CT6. Granted, I've never driven either of them, but just basing my opinion off of watching tons of these car reviews.
I have a 2018 G90 5.0 ultimate and love it. My lease is up soon, but I am more leaning on keeping my 2018 vs the updated model- interior not really different sans the real wood, I like the rear end of the '18 better, but the front of the '20 better. I'm averaging 21+mpg combined over 37k miles, so that's not an aberration.
With such a small price difference between the two trims, why does Genesis bother selling the "base" trim at all? $3,000 would hardly matter to luxury car shoppers, wouldn't it? Especially when the top trim has such a great value and much more affordable than any of the comparably-equipped competitors.
American Roads...I don't know, but I'd guess that since they have to produce both versions anyway ( for overseas markets), it costs them nothing to at least offer them to US customers.
German cars are really nice but wayyyyyy to expensive when new and they just cost to much to maintain when you buy a used one,these G90s for the price and all that you get,really seems like the more common sense buy in my opinion,great review my man....I used to be a "BADGE" person,not anymore,as I'm getting older I have to be a lot SMARTER and WISER with my money and truly UNDERSTAND what really makes good COMMON SENSE for the future....
Great review Alex! Very thorough and professional work with character. I love this car. Has so much presence, man. Love the ostentatious exterior-looks special and expensive, very masculine, a bit baroque. Kind of like an awesome Grandfather. I'd call him Pop. :) JV Johnny
Rear design and headlight are classy. I could live with the wheels but that big grill is a deal breaker. A narrow wide grill would complement the rear and headlights. Side note: this may be a much better deal than competition in this class but for this much dough, I would wait and get a Rivian. Probably not as nice on the tush but grin factor must be off the charts.
They need to add a panoramic sunroof and massage seats to the G90 ASAP. It's extremely strange to me that those are both features that are offered in the smaller G80 but not the flagship G90. But I guess that's also because the G90 is just a refresh while the G80 is all new.
I wouldn't compare G90 to LS400 as Lexus LS400 wasn't just chipper than it's competitors it also offered better engineering, more modern and advanced power train, that had much bigger development budgets and more advanced manufacturing process. By the way, LS500 isn't any different as it's 3.4 TT V6 V35A-FTS is supervisor to any turbo 6 engines that competitors offers and Aisin 10 speed is the best on the market too.
Why does Consumer Reports rate the LS500 52 out of 100 and last place in the segment? The new LS is not like the old LS as everyone else has left Lexus in the dust!
@@normt430 Because it's a brand new car and it had few recalls (mostly regarding cvt on the hybrid), just like LS460 did in 2006-2007, because it also was a revolutionary car, but LS460 can easily live to see 300+k miles on it's clock unlike it's competition. Also they include categories like infotainment in their reitings, that aren't important to the reliability aspect and they typically take their quizzes, when cars are basically brand new (like 1 or 2 mo old) and can't have any real issues anyways . But all in all, it's V35A-FTS (tt V6) and 10 speed Aisin have proven to be a lot more trouble free than the competition, hybrid powertrain may be a little worse though. Also, 8AR-FTS (Lexus 200t, 2.0 turbo engine) had proven to be extremely reliable on mileages well over 100k (except for turbo valve problems, on early versions, that had been resolved after a recall). And don't forget that Toyota will be using this V35A engine for a whole bunch of products and they had a pretty big budget for it's development. LS500 has only one real problem - runflat tires on air or even conventional suspension, where only magnetic one can pull them off. As time will g, you'll see that it's a quality machine, just like all of it's predecessors.
I think that the grill is a little overwhelming. I am not sure why designers are putting larger and larger grills on their vehicles. I think that the Genesis vehicles (all models) are very well made and excellent in their equipment levels. In Australia we have number plates on both front and rear so at least, the grill size is broken up by the placement of the plate.
The grille looks bigger in videos. I was at the dealer getting my G70 serviced, I checked out the new G90. The grille is a perfect size for this vehicle. It's not too big. You gotta see it in person to see what I mean. It looks great!
If Hyundai/Kia stay this consistent over the next 5 to 7 years a lot of companies going to see sales loss they are completely killing the auto industry right now
value and luxury can be on the same side of the coin.. i have been around a few people with a fair bit of coin and they buy what they like however if its discounted they'll take that discount too 😅.. For me a Fully load G90 vs a base BMW 7 series basically used a strip down version.. i would go with the G90
If I want a luxury car I would buy a lexus, I tend to keep cars for 7-9 years with putting around 170k-180k miles . Lexus got too comfortable in most of their line up I hope genesis proves its reliability long term.
They gave the G90 amber taillight turn signals but went out of their way to give the GV80 red taillight turn signals? RIP logic in favor of "styling" choices.
I think the G90 looks much better than the G80. The roofline is much more elegant and shaped like a proper luxury car. I do still prefer the way the Lexus LS looks though. The spindle grill isn’t great on many of their vehicles, mainly the GX and LX; but the LS wears it very well. The Mercedes S class is still my favorite though for style. It’s very stately and elegant. I like bold, but simple is sometimes better
That might not be until 2023 I'm afraid. It was released in MY2016 in South Korea and MY2017 for everywhere else. For MY2020, there was this refresh. So 2023 might be the most likely. Same with the G80 - it was released in MY2015 and they refreshed for MY2021. So 2 years behind the G80.
@@charlesdr1981 I don't think you've been in this new G90. Design wise, that's up to individual tastes. But there's nothing more premium in the LS. Not that I could find, anyway. Seats maybe?
@@johnholst I would say the craftsmanship of the Lexus, the full executive package options, seat adjustments and massage etc still put over the top of Genesis. But that's it. As an LS owner I'm disappointed with the current LS and in love with Genesis. like you said just add massaging seats and it's perfection 💯
im not into big luxury vehicles and prefer modern suv's. as far as branding goes its not important. its all about who makes what you like best. for some brand names are very important and will only buy a Mercedes, Maserati etc... 2 things in the news made me rethink about brands a long time ago. once when Mel Gibson was pulled over by law enforcement and he had his incident, he was in his Lexus LS. Michael Bloomberg servant? worker went to get his Lexus LS from the garage and decided to skip town and go to NJ where she was later arrested for auto theft. not like they can't afford to drive anything they want. i would most likely pick the 7 series from this group because i am very familiar with that brand and i would defiantly cross shop it against the genesis and other competition.
When speaking about the price of a new Genesis G90, it is often overlooked that the price of the G90 in South Korea when translated into US dollars is actually $100,000! It would appear that the American market is getting a very big discount from the G90 price in other countries. Could somebody explain to me how this price differential is possible. Does Hyundai feel that it must penetrate the US market for this car to be a success.
2021 Is the Genesis G90 at least as good (as a "whole") luxury class car, what about the 7-Class BMW ,S-Class Mercedes-Benz, Audi A8-class and the LS-Class Lexus ?. 🤔 Pros and cons (with room for improvement) ?. When can the AWS four-wheel steering system be added to the range of accessories...Premium AWD or Ultimate AWD equipment package. 2021-2022?.🤔
I cannot take any luxury car seriously that doesn't have the same adjustments for the seats on the driver and passenger side, I find it unacceptable in a Toyota corolla
I have been interested in a G90 for a while. Look into the owner's forum and you'll see how badly treated current owners have been by Genesis. Owning one is certainly NOT a luxury experience and what Genesis advertises vs. reality is VERY different. For example, Genesis promises a similar Genesis car when your car is under repairs, owners are being given small Hyundai vehicles. Genesis promised annual map updates for the G90 owners and the 2017-2019 G90s have been abandoned by Genesis with no infotainment updates in years. Do your research if you are planning on buying one.
@@cameronknowles6267 Yes, like the one in my 2012 w/333HP, I'm sure they could tune that to 350-360HP coming issues solved. But, unfortunately 'Turbo' has become a checkbox in a lot of your average consumers checklist.
The down fall for the Lexus and Acura brands is pricing. They are getting too expensive for what they are. They should go back to their roots or we will see Acura and Lexus gone.
No Eyes...Totally agree. Acura doesn't even try to compete with real luxury cars. And most Lexus cars are FWD now as well. Feels more like "Toyota Prime" rather than a real luxury car. Although, I think the LS and LC are exceptions. They're very nice!
I usually too cheap and don't watch luxury cars so at first glance I didn't remember why I am clicking this video, and then I realized I click it because of the thumbnail.....with 12 more tabs straight on other reviews
The rear seat in the Continental is cramped? O.o It has more leg room than the G90, if you believe the specs. It's the rear-seat headroom that gets the Continental, being about 2 inches less than the G90.
I have nothing against Genesis. actually like the design of there cars. But Name recognition is something to some people in this class. For me there still Budget based Luxury. But still worth a look. hmmm. Why do some many comments always say " This is gonna be my next car" ? lol ok right. Some of you on other reviewers channels saying the same thing bout A Civic. lol " its my next car" 🙄
