Taking Genesis To The Next Level | The All New Genesis G80 

Exactly! I love Doug but his scores literally makes no sense. The same “cool quirk” in one car is a gimmick in another car for some reason.

@@khoaphan8490 This is not Doug Demuro. This is Alex on Autos.

@@user-zf1ol7op7y Thank god for that.

If you want to know the details Alex is the go to review. He's not entertainment like most of the other channels but I do appreciate some of his attempts at humor such as his often appropriate choice of song on the media system.

@@khoaphan8490 doug is for entertainment. Alex is for education

For the money and that 10 year powertrain warranty and 5 years bumper to bumper,I'll be buying a GENESIS G90 in the near future...

@Der Schwindel lol, people like what they like. Tbh I was thinking the same thing as I watched this video, but I also think the G80 is “complete”. This is going to be the model they move forward with, mostly unchanged for 5-7 years until they release the next generation. The G90 and G70 were “draft models”. The G70 is being dramatically refreshed after just 2 years. It’s going to be way better, and I think they will do the same with the G90. The first iterations were just to make sure they got the overall formula right, before they went all-in and released models. Let’s wait and see.

@Der Schwindel welll, the G90 will undergo an extensive redesign next year. It is due to receive all the technologies of the G80 and GV80, and many more. If the g80 redesign looks and Is this good, imagine how the flagship g90 will be when it gets redesigned. Reportedly the next gen g90 will receive air suspension and a multi LiDAR system to support level 3 autonomous driving. I would wait for the 2022 G90, it will likely be the best vehicle Genesis will ever make.

@Der Schwindel The reason is I'm a luxury car guy,see now your probably more sporty...The G70 and G80 are nice also,that is if your into more of a sporty look and feel...

Until Hyundai/Kia can fix their engine issues, I can think of one very big concern in buying one over ANY other vehicle: I don't need a Genesis Pinto that's going to catch on fire.

Preach! You want the LED lights? $$$ package Premium leather? $$ package but it comes with massaging seats so add'l $$ And the optional sound system? $$$ Oh, that one on the showroom floor? It's fully loaded.

@@chiemekaa even worse, charging for "software" upgrades to unlock stuff already built into your car looking at you tesla...

Agreed. I’m in the market for an entry level luxury sedan and i really like how genesis just gives you all the good features...refreshing

not even close

100k+ cars from 5+ years ago I'd agree but not current ones

It’s not far off from $100,000

@@devn3813 It starts at $48K that's absolutely far off from $100K

@@devn3813 I disagree. what makes a car a luxury car is it's tech and build quality. Even the cheapest G80 has that luxury car build quality, and I've heard good things about how quiet it is as well as how it rides. You don't need to max out a car for it to be a luxury car either, and doing so in the G80 is mostly just getting you more tech + a better engine. I should also add that this car is much cheaper than it's rivals, especially when equipped with tech. This is absolutely a luxury car, as was the first gen Hyundai Genesis Sedan (I drove and almost bought one).

@Der Schwindel True but I was thinking more in just the luxury space. Genesis and Volvo are probably my two favorite luxury automakers right now since they went in different directions than the German players.

@Der Schwindel Yes, I completely agree. Lincoln’s another great, unique player in the luxury space. Love that they’re giving us a modern interpretation of traditional American luxury. Handle well enough but sportiness be damned! Comfort first! And I’ve heard about the Mazda developments, and I actually think they’ll be in more of a tweener, luxury-but-not-quite-tier-one kind of position in the market. That’s a historically difficult place for automakers to put themselves, but I actually think Mazda will be able to pull it off if they do it right. We’ll see, though.

@@williamlong2682 If you're talking Luxury then Tesla definitely isn't it.. pricewise sure but quality wise it's similar to entry level Ford..

@@omgitsme435 Oh, they have a lonnnnnnnnnng way to go on build quality for sure. But they do target their products at the luxury segment.

I had a choice, BMW M340i or Genesis G70. I've got G70 3.3TT AWD top Prestige package. For the same options I would pay $12K-$15K more if I decide to buy BMW. I don't care what beige is on the hood. I would like to drive high performance and comfortable car for reasonable money Genesis gave me that pleasure. Even if in some fields BMW is on top of Genesis, I don't believe that small superiority cost more then $10K.

They won't, lol...

Don’t convince them

Audi A6 sexier 😍

@@Carfan678 save 20k and have a better car, i take that as a win

@@adilsagadiyev5090 nah get a premium plus a6 and it’s like maybe $5k more and I’d rather get that. Mind you I’m comparing both 6 cylinder variants and their actually only about a $2k difference

Forget the GS. Genesis could end up ending Lexus entirely Most automotive journalists including Alex have said they prefer genesis over Lexus by far in all ways. As if Lexus IS now irrelevant

Lil smaller yeah I agree...

The big grill is good on genesis

@Mr.Tweezy007 only if you're insecure about your masculinity. To people with taste, it's vulgar and tacky.

@Mr.Tweezy007 you can have presence and not be intimidated and still not have a tacky fake grille up front. Audis have huge grilles and it looks tame.

@hiroshima thompson that isn't much of a compliment, now, isn't it?

Almost no cars in this class size have fold down seats. Usually just coupes and small sedans. I believe the G70 has fold down seats.

@@sugarkang not true. Audi a6 and thr Mercedes and BMW equivalent have them as optional s.

@@sugarkang The 5 series and E class both have (at least optional) fold down rear seats, which are the two segment leaders for luxury mid-size sedans

The G80 doesn't offer rear folding seats because in other markets like Korea, that space is designed for electrically adjustable rear seats, which the Germans don't even offer in this class. It's the same reason with the Lexus ES. G80 is also a much bigger car than the A6/5-Series/E-Class, the wheelbase alone is the same length as an 8 Series Gran Coupe. The cabin space is also the largest in the segment. It needs more structural rigidity to maintain that large size, which helps if the seats don't fold down.

@@gasstation405 You can make excuses for the car all you want, but Alex said specifically in this video that the car competes with those two German offerings (E class/5 series), and if it doesn't offer this feature, it will definitely hurt sales. And I'm not biased against Hyundai or anything, we've had 3 in our family.

@@samctm Got the idea from The Millionaire Next Door.

I got the 2018 G80 sport 365 hp All weel drive. Had it for 2 yrs today. I am trading it in in one yr from now only because I'm doing other things not car related. So nex yr Nov I will be in a 2021 G80 sport V6 all will drive 375 hp. I drove GS Lexus since 2000. Let me honest the G80 knocked the GS into Lexus not even making them anymore. The GS is discontinued. Believe me I went for a GS in 2018. They tried to get me in a LS that has the same engine as my G80. Negative. My dealer whom I've been dealing with since 2000 told me man go buy that G80. So there. Lexus is a great car. With my opinion like I said I was driving GS. I had 5 of them in almost 20 yrs. G80 is that car or I may go for that GV80. They jus need dealers. I had my problems dealing with these hyundia showroom dealers. Lexus is still number one in my opinion with customer satisfaction. I have family members who drive Mercedes n Beamers n jags etc. They say brother Lexus is number 1 in Customer Satisfaction. Genisis rocks. GV80 is tempting. Time will tell. Life happens..

I couldn't sleep if I missed passenger seat memory, having plastic inserts on the sides of the front panel and with only 2 memory positions for driver seat ☺ Can u imagine how scary it is to have only 2 memory positions???

A Dodge Dart with the slant 6 got me through college.

@@stephenhendricks103 We are finally in agreement on something. I have owned/regularly driven a Slant 6 equipped 73 Duster, 75 Fury sedan and a 1980 Dodge Diplomat. As a bonus, my driver's ed course car was a 1980 Dodge Aspen coupe with a Slant 6.

@@rightlanehog3151 I can top that, my friend. My car in college was a '63 Dodge Dart. Of course, a few years ago I happened to drive a later Chrysler product with the same engine and was shocked how little power it had compared to more modern vehicles. Nevertheless, it's a famous engine for its time.

It's rare to have a rwd based sedan with fold down seats. You need bracing back there to counteract the twisting forces of the engine torque. Especially when you have near 400ft/lbs

Try finding another luxury sedan in this price range that folds now. It'll be awhile. I'll be waiting.

@@michaellim4165 "Try finding another luxury sedan in this price range that folds now" Mercedes C Class, BMW 3 Series, Acura products in general

Might as well wait the Acura Type S if you need the power.

@@MillionMileDrive Bracing seems un-needed since the Lincoln MKZ had 400HP and 400 Lbs of torque with folding rear seats out a transverse twin turbo V6 and Torque vectoring rear dif.

This is the least selling luxury car in America by a larger margin. "Genesis has done a better job..." - You need to sell the cars you make in order to do a good job.

@@kenedtsu Least-selling? The G80 outsold the GS, RLX, XF, S90, Q70, CTS, etc in the years that it's been sold. Now half the cars on this list are straight up dead lol. The G80 straight up spanked out every other car in this segment that isn't German. And it did it without a dealer network.

A business that others are abandoning is often the easiest kind to enter with some success, as long as you do not expect much profit in your definition of success. Luxury sedans are a shrinking segment in many markets, so you need to be among the strongest incumbents, be leveraging products for another large market where you have an advantage or show up with something seen as having a "shiny new toy" factor.

@Der Schwindel They failed just give up. Acura, Infinit, And Lexus took too long in this segment

@Der Schwindel If you're selling in the ~$50K+ range with a car that's about 195" long, you're competing in this class. The RL\RLX was never very good, but it was an attempt to try and compete in the same way that the Volvo S80 was. Their transverse/FWD setup doesn't put them in a different class of car. The ES and GS were targeted at different customers. The ES competes with cars like the now defunct Lincoln MKZ, and the Infiniti I35 when it still existed. The ES is a luxury package Camry, same as the MKZ and Infiniti. The Germans don't make those. The IS is their attempt to compete with what the Germans do make, and I wouldn't be surprised if they ultimately quit that segment as well. The "new" IS is a strong indicator that they do not care about remaining competitive with BMW 3 and M-B C, and are just re-heating an ancient product since all of the tooling is paid for. The fact is that nobody really wants a sports sedan from Lexus. They aren't good at making them, which is why they have given up.

g80 2.5 gv80 3.5 good!

Sales figures are actually rising. A lot of us were waiting for the new cars. Look harder at the sales figures since you know so much😂

@@Playb0ymari 13 years in market and still managed to sell only 21,233 units in 2019. Joke on you buddy.

Engine fires and recalls?

I never got how he gets his decibel measurements? A iphone or a dedicated measuring tool. I just use his measurement pool as a reference. Seems the 2020 K900 is the quietest car he's measured. Seems like all new cars/cuv/truck/suv with new models with focus on NVH at any price point come in around 68.5DB to 72DB at 50mph.

Too bad we didn't get the Korean spec.

Check out Asian Petrolhead on RU-vid, he has an introductory video on G70.

@@asko2677 Waiting for GV70 crossover. :)

@@havok3344 it will be basically the same, just an SUV. But I too am excited to see it when it does come out!

Only if they make the G70 wagon and bring it to north america.

@@barbecuetechtips6024 it would be sweet if they made a G80 wagon to compete with the Benz e-wagon and a6 Avant. Those have gotten too expensive.

JD pOwa doesn't mean shit

Too much cost with little uptake by consumers. It's like the manual transmission.

As long as the demand is truly there.

Exactly, Since they are worth nothing with depreciation. Just get a Carmax warranty.