@Dobin Pantomine Horse there's no editing there, and even if he did not a crime to swear at police to give them the power to start a section 5 or 4a as he used. Easy £1000
That lying female cop should be fired immediately and the auditor can prove it. The cop should be fired also because he could have watched the video and dispelled hid suspicion! He would not watch the video before he got his details!
That's not true just that the bar is higher. But being told to 'piss off' would hardly reach the standard of something in excess of what they are used to.
@@johnnyrichardson902 Swearing at police is no longer a crime because officers hear foul-mouthed abuse too often to be offended, a High Court judge has ruled. The landmark judgement came as Mr Justice Bean overturned a public order conviction of a young suspect who repeatedly used the F-word while being searched for drugs
How can she ever give evidence against anyone again. She cannot expect a judge or a jury to accept anything she says as a known liar. If she stitched anyone up then they should take this video as evidence and get their case re-opened!
This is an excellent example of why there are no 'Good Apples'. The Police will always support their colleagues irrespective of the situation. They lie like cheap bedside rugs and they are all 'Rotten Apples'
Wow, just wow. Conspiracy to pervert the course of justice by the police is a very serious offence and a career buster. He made several clear statements about what he was told by the female officer. She’s in massive bother
I hope she is in massive bother. The only problem is that WYP Professional Standards are employed to protect bent officers like her. I say bent because she has perverted the course of justice and used her position to breach NNY's human and legal rights. I hope this news event runs and runs. Yes she was annoyed he was legally flying a drone but to lie to two officers and get them complicit in her deception was out of order. She now becomes questionable as to other occasions when she has deliberately lied to get someone's details or get them arrested. She would do well to resign now.
It's crazy...the constant BS (and lies) you see from cops, their bosses and also the 'justice system' - and I'm referring to what I've witnessed here in Canada. Same BS in Britain it seems. Thanks for sharing! Watching from North Vancouver, Canada. Regards, Jules.
See this is why I have lost all respect for the police, that Sergeant lied , obviously didn’t know you were recording and that you had your evidence to prove that you didn’t tell her to piss off . He’s just as bad ,didn’t want to look at your recording just in case it proved she was lying . The lies just fall out of their mouths, they can’t help it they are so corrupt .
Abhorrent behaviour this used to happen all the time before body worn and mobile phones ....the amount of lies they all sprurted and abuse of powers was everywhere
Utterly disgusting, how many more lies on people has that plain clothed Sargent told. And clearly there are more than enough police who would blindly follow a lying cop's words even when recorded video evidence was offered for viewing several times, but the male officer new that to view the evidence would prove exactly how the female Sargent lied. No good cops. Great video, hope you complain and get some justice.
Actually, I've thought about this. She deliberately lied to get a colleague to go out and move you on or arrest you; he took her word and refused to investigate the allegation despite you saying you had proof she was lying. This amounts to conspiracy to pervert the course of justice and is a serious charge that carries a penalty of imprisonment. Base your complaint and civil suit on that and they should offer a settlement of at least £5000. You could even demand the CPS prosecute the both and take out a private prosecution if they refuse.
Even if you had said piss off it wouldn't be a criminal offence if it wasn't near any of the public likely to cause distress and alarm. The lying sargent should be sacked or at least demoted.
If I saw a police officer on fire I wouldn’t even piss on them to put them out I will just stand there and laugh at them and film the whole thing. Because of how the police have acted in the last two years
Don’t worry I’ll piss on em for you, who else would save you or your family if the crispy police weren’t there when mr burglar comes to smash your nana in
Just the last 2 years? I guess one positive of the covid fiasco is that it opened a few more peoples eyes to what and who the police really are. Violent information gathering agents of the state that should never be trusted.
I always find it annoying when cops say "go ahead and sue", just shows how little it matters regardless of how needed it is. It's like they never learn.
Its because they know that 99% of the time they will get away with it, the system works for them, and if there is compensation to be made, it will come out of the public purse
Its not their money, not their problem. Even if a complaint IS upheld, what happens to them? Nothing, nothing at all it doesn't effect career, earnings or pension.....
They'll only learn when they have to sell their house to pay legal fees. It doesn't affect them in the least. This needs to be changed and they need to be held accountable for their unlawful actions.
That police officer is telling lies, it doesn't matter how many offences anyone has committed, we all have a common law right to remain silent, and the police tell you that if they ever arrest you.
@@GH-lo8vl If you are arrested you are obliged to give details, however the cop knew that that's why he said you might. you could etc. and it's easy to stand on principles but a night in jail is a night in jail, and that happens, released next day no charges, its a corrupt system but its how they like it
@@robba1234 - The key word being "Obliged", It's not that it's a corrupt system, it's just that people do not know what "Governed by consent" actually means - COMMON LAW (Law of the land) - upheld by a police constable. No one is above common law, and those in breach of common law will be tried in a common law court before a jury of their peers. There must be a victim in common law and they do not need your name, as the victim and/or witnesses will point you out as being the perpetrator. Common law - 1 - You cannot hurt anyone 2 - You cannot steal anyone's property 3 - You cannot damage anyone's property 4 - You cannot defraud anyone 5 - You cannot commit breach of the peace towards anyone 6 - You cannot commit treason (or sedition), towards the crown. And that's common law ☝️, that's it and NOTHING ELSE. ACTS AND STATUTES OF PARLIAMENT (Commercial law, contract law, law of the sea, admiralty law) - upheld by a police officer (office, paperwork). Only applies to certain groups (Road Traffic Act applies to drivers of vehicles etc) and needs your consent to enforce it, of which they will try to get using legalease ("Do you understand" - meaning do you 'under stand' ((stand under)) my authority). They need your name to issue fines and court dates, (as "Mr Hate crime" can't point you out in court - and no court usher ever shouts out "Occupier to court one"), You are the only one who can give or confirm your name, so NEVER give it. Your answer to every question should be - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Your answer to every request should be - "Under protest and duress" (They always "ask you" to do something rather than 'tell you' because then you've accepting their authority). Q - "What's your name?" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "What's your address?" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "If you don't tell me you'll be arrested" A - "I retain my common law right to remain silent" Q - "Well I'm arresting you blah blah blah, 'do you understand'?" A - "No I do not stand under your authority" Q - "Ok well do you want to come this way" A - "Under protest and duress" And before anyone points out that they can get your name from a driving license or passport etc, those are fraudulent documents created from a birth certificate that clearly states across the bottom - "A certificate is not evidence of identity". Let's not forget that the first thing a police constable says to you when he/she arrests you is - "You do not have to say anything", Because, believe it or not - YOU DON'T. You do NOT have to speak to a police constable. You do NOT have to speak to the desk sergeant at the police station. You do NOT have to have a police interview. You do NOT have to attend court. Exercise your God given inalienable common law rights, they're yours and cannot be taken away by anyone, especially by some police officer using his/her uniform to commit treason and fraud by acting as a government bailiff. Police constables swear an oath before God to serve the Monach and protect people and property. They DO NOT swear an oath to protect the government. They swear their oath raising their right hand, and if they went against an oath which they swear to in a court, they would receive two years for perjury.
@@robba1234 remain silent? or like I have done in the past tell the Custody sgt to f@ck right off I am not answering any of your fkin questions and not playing your little game. get the duty solicitor while I get my ed down in the cell, Oh and duty MO while your at it if your not too busy doing paperwork. I still have never been charged with anything, bunch of lying cnuts.
If it’s just you and her there is no public order offence and if she’s lied she needs sacking from her position of trust. More concerning how many innocent people are behind bars because of her lies?
The compo should personally come from the officers wage that way they would start being a bit more professional . He didn't want to see video evidence because all he was fixated about was getting details.
What a lying little tramppy piggy slag, and that knobhead saying show us the video then if that's what u want to do. After the pricks had your name but he never wanted to watch it beforehand. Corrupt mother fuckers. Makes me so pissed off lying cunts.
Unbelievable that he wanted to go down the public order route because another copper had said you swore, when the proof that you hadn't was offered to him. How the hell can he justify being so biased. What a fool.
It was clearly just a lame ploy to get his details. Maybe she never said that in the first place and it was the baldy cop who was lying? He was unaware he was being filmed at the beginning of the interaction.
The difference between the two copper's are one is an over blown EGO on a ignorance power trip... The other a respectful inquisitive minded human being...
This is another reason why cops who lie and falsely make statements to you should be made to pay any compensation themselves. Failing to watch the proof of the any said offence should really be a sackable offence. This copper had no proof himself and therefore is only acting in hearsay. A copper cannot take offence to a swear word whether on duty or off duty. No wonder they earn the hate everyday. Take them to the cleaners NNY
My opinion an officer that make a false accusation to a member of public should be fired we are the one that paid them and i mean in this case specifically when he has proof that he didn’t say that that officer should be dismissed without right to appeal
@@Steves_fish cops are not supposed to take offence when sworn at, they are pussies if they do, they can do you for section 5 if there are members of the public about where your swearing is likely to cause alarm harassment and distress but a cop on his/her own would likely be thrown out by the cps as it would not be in the public interest to take you to court. There have been many cases that did get to court with them being thrown out by the judge. Anyway, what do you expect from Surrey police, nearly as bad as the Met police.
@@Steves_fish You can not be arrested for cursing at a cop in the UK, you can however be arrested for cursing at a member of the public or cursing within earshot of the general public. Crap is not a swear word by the way.
"reasonable grounds" when you offered evidence that you did not commit any offence, which would have allayed any reasonable grounds? Should be a slam dunk case there.
Fat cop was flustered...you had him flustered a few times there. You are well composed and have clear thinking and articulation when under pressure. Great stuff...keep it going.
Sue these unlawful muppets, I’m extremely disgusted by their lack of respect of a member of the public, lies caught on camera. Wow just wow. Big up your future win as these two are going to be on a training Police video. Outstanding audit and thank you for the visuals. Lovely rozzers ✊ in the little paddy, as morons overtook waving for no apparent reason.
@@inportugal2 too true 🐖 s don't just lie once every person she's has a hand in arresting and convicting needs to get her participation in their case investigated she's obviously a serial liar and is bound to have commited perjury in some if not all of her cases. Once a liar always a liar and not a very good one at that.
I hope you do carry this through and report her for making a false report. You were detained and threatened with a public order offence, because she lied unnecessarily. Police Officer lying is no surprise though Sgt Wiltshire/Wilpshire is corrupt. Looking forward to an update.
They don't even care that they're seen to be corrupt. The cop admitted he had no interest in seeing the evidence that the sergeant lied. He believed her 100% and totally ignored the argument of the auditor. That's discrimination. The fact that a sergeant lied in order to get a law abiding member of the public in trouble should be treated as a serious misdemeanour. I'm also concerned that a police officer thinks (quote) 'it's fine' that £1000 of public tax money is being wasted because of a lying sergeant and his incompetence to investigate properly. The body language of the female officer said it all. She was embarrassed, ashamed and guilty.
It’s amazing how they never want to view the footage that would prove the officers claims to be false, they would much rather blindly throw their powers around.
If telling someone to piss off is an offence then this country is full of criminals - ridiculous use of a Section 4a, it would never have stood up in court. In any case given she was a police officer I'm surprised you didn't cite case law on swearing at police.
I think it was the fact she has lied that was in NNY's mindset. Its quite ironic really as Michael isn't anti police. That said neither pro police or anti police individuals deserve being set up.
So you offered to show him the objective unbiased video encounter, but he brushed you off, because he had no interest in finding out the actual truth. TYRANT...
The level of corruption within the Police Force never ceases to amaze me, and even when the PC was presented with evidence to prove NNY’s case, that Sergeant Wiltshire was lying, it was ignored, not once, but multiple times, and they wonder why they are hated.. Fair play to the last PC though, he was open minded during the whole interaction.
They have got to learn! And the uniformed officer abusing his powers wouldn't arrest you but apparently getting your details proves if you were using offensive language in public! The female Sergeant needs to be investigated for lying IF the uniformed officer is telling the truth of course.
he wasn’t even investigating the alleged offense. he threatened to arrest him to obtain his details which he only used to check him out, not at all to aid the investigation. better to go home and sleep in your own bed. complain. sue. demand public apology.💰.
@@inspirationunlimitedltd5814 It's offence, not 'offense', unless you're American. Please use and preserve our proper English language and avoid adopting unnecessary Americanisms. xx
@@pussypostlethwaitsaeronaut8503 - thanks for that. must’ve missed that school day because no matter how many times it’s explained to me now, just can’t grasp the distinction between “ce” & “se”. advice or advise? licence or license? defence or defense?
Officers can do whatever they want as long as they aren’t held accountable. Getting 1,000 pounds doesn’t solve anything because to it doesn’t come from the officers. When the officers have to pay those they violate, it won’t stop. The system is stupid.
Public order. I faced a similar situation recently, a security guard (G4S) acused me of threatening his life which is absolutely untrue. I was subsequently arrested and spent a full day in the cells only to be released without charge. The police need better training it's the lack of funding and overworking them that's causing them to act like robocops.
This is where personal ego's get in the way of good policing. Unfortunately, too many get those inflated egos as soon as they get their military style yellow vests. The same applies to security guards that failed the police temperament test.
In DPP v Orum [1989] 1 WLR 88, [1988] 3 All ER 449, [1989] 88 Cr App R 261 the Divisional Court confirmed that police officers are not unable to be victims of section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 caused by swearing and oth
@@nickmacdonald9535 "However, police officers are expected to display a degree of resilience. For an officer to be caused harassment, alarm or distress, the conduct complained of must go beyond that which he or she would regularly come across in the ordinary course of police duties."
@@nickmacdonald9535 I agree with you but imagine arresting someone for something everyone else just has to pretty much deal with when it happens to them.. The ironic thing is that they'll probably swear at you in the process of arresting you 😂
@@deryckevans8877 nah just a normal bloke who calls a stick a stick, the guys channel is designed to antagonise people/police so he can sue. Yeah, fight the power! …. Or whatever I guess.
The law needs to change so when an officer abuses their powers, and then is told they will be sued, they always reply 'that's fine' because the payment from the law suit comes from the public coffers! There needs to be a petition to change the law so that if an officer abuses their powers they need to be sued personally. This is the only way to put an end to the abuse of powers and put an end to stripping the public from their rights. We all need the police what we do not need is rouge uniform wearers illegally abusing the powers they have been provided with.
I disagree with the statement ,that we all need the police.We all need just laws to be enforced ,but we do not need this can of worms we have at present .Nothing would ever get me to contact the police,under any circumstances whatsoever ,no situation ,however dire ,is made the slightest bit better by the inclusion of unjust corruption in blue uniforms
Thank you, NN Yorkshire. Keeping them accountable for the innocent people like us. Bless you lad. I didn't hear no "Piss Off?"..You tied them up in a Verbal Reef Knot, and sent them packing. Good job.
Its a shame these scumbags don't have to pay compo from their own pockets, if they did perhaps that scumbag would have solved the lie issue by viewing your video when you offered. Everyone contact your local councillios and get that on the agenda.
That's why they do not care and stick together there not hit in there own pockets when he wins the law breakers will not even know this that he won for the behaviour Nothing going to change until these corrupt thugs get charged personally for there wrong doing and at least they might think twice by acting on lies and corruption.
Even if they did their pockets are refilled with taxpayers money, better that they have it deducted from their pension fund that way they loose money and the taxpayer doesn't pay for it ,
@@IBIZABIKE What a great idea, problem being that at current rates of compensation payouts their Pension Fund would already be bankrupt then we wouldn't get any compensation at all.
I'm so Angry just watching this! Well done for keeping your composure during that! Please put a claim in against them both. Keep up great work the drone footage is great! Stay safe 🙏
Exactly never back down if you are right, simply request a solicitor and keep requesting one when they arrest you and make sure all devices are set to charging mode only and locked with a password so the porkies can't access it.
Wow. So he doesn't investigate the alleged offense and does only require a lying officer to threaten someone with arrest. In the US, it also requires an actual member of the public. In the UK a public offense can include a police officer off duty? Who actually lies? Please also file a complaint on him.
Case law says that swearing at cops is not enough to offend them, if no members of the public are in earshot. They have to expect that in their job. If they're offended by words, god help them trying to tackle a real criminal. It astonishes me that they have no shame in admitting to being snowflakes.
It's a criminal offense to say what she did as a police officer and that horrible officer clearly teaches the young female officer how the police lie and force compliance. Both the police officer who lied about the offense AND that piece of garbage with no regard to the law took suspicion to a higher level just to make you comply, This is why we trust police about as far as I can spit Great video much better than the rubbish they put on TV (scripted cop shows where they behave). Keep up the good work
@THE MOST TARGETED CITIZEN yes but she lied to solicit an arrest that's wrong, yes they can lie but not to entrap or give false witness she did but that's police for you citizen or crook they don't care
Criminal offence, not 'offense', unless you're American. Please use and preserve our proper English language and avoid adopting unnecessary Americanisms. xx
In addition to your statement I would also be quite concerned that they have his address now and that's not worth £1000 in anyone's book surely. Harassment springs to mind when the 2 police personnel get their reprimand.
The officer was initially offered to view the footage but turned it down so he could gain personal details, and after the event agreed to look at the footage. It's so corrupt.
For Al the people saying don't give your details you've clearly never been arrested. If the police threaten arrest that's already a violation of his rights. You don't have to get fully arrested
@@vu7419 I dont know what video you just watched but to me the police officer specifically said he legally had to give his details... Quite clearly then if he legally had to give his details and did not then it would lead to his arrest.. I think it was very well played to push the officer as he clearly wanted to be woolly about the whole thing so he could say the details were given voluntarily, but I think even any lay person can see it was not voluntary, he even said I dont want to give me details.. No point in getting arrested, police will just leave you in the cell for hours, no bother to them..
This engagements with dimwits like these are brilliant! It really encourages people NOT to be fearful when stopped and to call them out. Excellent real life role-play.
No, no, no Sir - of course I'm not interested in seeing evidence that will show that my colleague is a little liar - and it's absolutely fine that you make a civil claim cos I won't personally be paying out for it anyway 😆 🐖
When I were a lad, a long time ago, a Police Officer was someone to contact when you have something to report, when your car's been nicked, or some lowlife has kicked in your door and cleared off with the VHS video recorder (remember those?) Now it seems they're only interested in painting their cars with rainbows, or giving grief to anyone carrying out a perfectly legal activity in a public space, then going fishing. What a country we've become, scared of our own shadows. Stand up for your legal rights and don't submit to their tactics.
If that sergeant was off duty and in her rights as a regular member of the public, then she could be offended by offensive language. However, the moment she identified as a police officer (in the process, claiming the powers of an officer) then surely she's no longer able to claim to offended. Surely that's right?
Its very important you follow through on this complaint of that sergeant if you definitely can prove she has lied. She may have given statements or evidence in the past, or may do in the future in court or prosecutions, and judges will convict/ prosecute on her word and integrity as a officer. If she is a proven lier then her statements can not be trusted and the justice system will be better for knowing this.
The P.C is claiming the Sergeant made the statement to him . How do we not know that its the P.C just making this nonsense up in order to solicit your details. If however the Sergeant did lie, then this is a very serious matter that needs action. Decent video, but a very very slow start…editing may have helped. Respect 👍👍
The auditor wasn’t listening, he’s also a rookie! Listen to the officer choice of words carefully.. the officer said POTENTIALLY you COULD be arrested.. he also mentioned he COULD be detained.. that’s the get out of jail free card the officer will try and use to get out of the lawsuit and complaint.. The officer will claim he was never arrested/detained and always free to leave.. 🤦♂️ Next time he should ask the question.. AM I FREE TO GO.. the answer must be YES/NO.. if the officer say potentially, maybe, perhaps.. the court might excuse the officer saying he did not say he WILL/WOULD be arrested or detained!!! The auditor is a rookie.. the officer was playing chess while he playing checkers… he needs to spend more time learning the law.. That officer will compile a PND intelligence report on the auditor.. lying about the danger he pose with the drone etc.. 🤦♂️ To delete that report could take years and thousands in legal fees.. hence, you better off being arrested then as part of the settlement get a court order to REMOVE all your records.. Also, that report is shared to all other police forces and government departments.. police will use it to harass him, it cause him problems with other government agencies..
@@shookoneldn300 I thought he did pretty good .......maybe if you did these things with your amazing knowledge of the law it would be better .....and if you do , I haven't seen any of your vids ?? Are you an auditor or do you just armchair it ?
@@alistairpayne5357 I have over 100 police interactions spanning over 30 years.. I have been stopped and searched more times than I can count for smell of cannabis despite the fact I have never smoked or drank in my life. Assaulted by police a number of times for stealing my OWN car.. keys snatched from ignition and dragged out.. despite police not even running my plates.. 🤦♂️ The very last police interaction I had I was DE-ARRESTED for burglarising my OWN house.. 🤦♂️ NOW, I didn’t know I can steal my own car or burgle my own house, or smell of weed when I’ve never smoked before.. see the pattern of these criminals we pay to protect us!?🙄 A law abiding citizen.. I’ve always complied and gave my details to police(BIG MISTAKE) only for my details to be entered into PND, not PNC.. Police National Database is where police store intelligence (mostly LIES) about people.. it took me over 3yrs to remove all my details that I was never obligated to give in the first place as these bastard fought my lawyer and I tooth and nail.. 🤦♂️ The vast majority of police officers are pathological liars and dangerous criminals most of them should be in prison not on the streets.. They use clever words like you could be, maybe, might be, etc ARRESTED.. in court the police will MOVE to dismiss your case they will claim it was not a lawful order, they never said you will be arrested or are detained.. and you were always free to leave.. 99% of the time the judge will dismiss your case.. you must get a yes/no answer from the police…
@@alistairpayne5357 You only need to give details when driving(not as a passenger), arrested or suspected of a crime under the THREAT of arrest.. Apart from that you don’t have to give details.. An officer might lie on PND saying he dispute your identity.. it actually stopped a man from renewing his passport for 5yrs as the home office relied on the PND report and had to battle the police to remove it.. Another man was stopped from joining the army because of lies on PND.. he spent thousands in lawyers fees to remove those lies on police system… another case, police mixed the details of a innocent stop and search man with another caught with drugs… if you have a negative search you not obligated to give details.. see what happens when you give details when not obligated to!!???🤷♂️ PND is shared by all police forces and all government agencies.. you don’t even have to be arrested or detained.. it’s just mostly lies about people to ruin their lives…
