M1 iMac Base Model VS Upgrade | Should You Pay More? 

Wait !! The prices may be different for students 😂 I know they cut like 100$ off a price of a new iMac or MacBook if you show proof your a college or teacher or something

Correct. I get the military discount and there are others to be had as well.

@@JerrySchulze Thanks for your service Soldier.

I can use 28% gst invoice return

I will be buying the fully upgraded Imac with full specs in about a week or so. Purple. Then, later this year, will be replacing my MBP with a MBA.

very cool!

Which color did you get

Can someone tell me if they actually last that long? Im considering buying one:)

@@thaisse0696 no one knows but how long does a processor in an iPhone or iPad last? 6+ years? Longer because it has a fan?

@@JerrySchulze Probably not, Gen 1 products usually last shorter than later generation products (ie. apple watch series 0)

That sounds great!

Glad it was helpful!

I appreciate that!

Good choice!

Thank you!

You bet!

Thanks for checking it out.

Glad it was helpful!

Wow, really?

@@JerrySchulze well RU-vid takes up a lot of my free time, I think I saw pretty much all videos from major You-tubers and some of the smaller ones on this new device. Good videos but this aspect didn’t come up, you are the first one to notice, at least for me

Thanks so much!

Awesome!

in purple*

The base model are designed for people who just use it for simple work and entertainment. I don’t need a high powered computer if I’m just gonna use it for word documents, researching, calls/chats, and entertainment. It’s customizable to your needs and wants. People demand so much for something they can’t even make themselves 😂

@@georgiarose575 well, u shouldn't have to pay more for more ports, and if u r already paying $1299 for a computer u just want to use word on, that's a problem lol. IMO, u might as well upgrade for the better GPU, u might have this computer for 5+ years before an upgrade, more RAM and graphics power will definitely come in handy in the future, and u can't upgrade later.

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You are so welcome!

lol thanks for watching!

Nice!

I wish I knew more about podcasting but I imagine that running a few audio streams will be no problem at all. I mean they can edit multiple streams of 4k video without issue most of the time.

Great to hear!

Thanks yep it is orange.

If you are happy with the air the base model is probably fine. If you don’t want more expensive keyboard start with base model and add storage or ram as needed. Why do you prefer a wired keyboard?

Seems a really silly decision to spend extra for a model just to use a old wired keyboard & mouse when a nice new wireless set come with the iMac! And you’re a basic user who doesn’t even need the higher end specs?? Get the base model and sell or recycle your old wired peripherals.

Mine is used all the time.

You know I have never tried. You are probably better off moving large files and libraries instead like you music or photo library.

Hey! The computer needs to request the power and if there is already power there is no request. I use it with iMacs all the time.

I really appreciate that!

This are some great questions. Linus Tech Tips did a good breakdown test with the port speeds on the Mini. I would check that out.

I think the base model will perform well, but if you plan on using for many years I would think about upgrading.

No, when you order you can choose one or the other or both.

lol. I think Yellow wins.

all white snowflake color, uh oh, they do not make that one yet.

I bought the yellow and have had it for 2 weeks. Marvelous, bright color!

Got the yellow, the stand is the only bit of full yellow you see from the front and its more of a gold/yellow, but nice. The chin is yellow plastic, still nice and really when using you don't even notice the colours. I do wish they had a space grey option with a black edge around the screen, maybe the bigger iMac will have this option? But I'm pleased with my choice, it was either this on the silver, or a Mac Mini!

Hey, thanks for watching. I spent a few months at Incirlik Air base.

Base Imac, 16gb ram, 256gb is what I want to go for too! Did you purchase it? :) Also I'm a graphic designer and I use Illustrator and Photoshop a lot, with many tabs open on chrome almost always, so would you recommend those specs?

8 is not a lot of virtualization. If you can afford 16 I would go for it.

I use parallels everyday for work with my 16gb M1 iMac. I would strongly suggest going to 16.

In my Premiere tests the 27 was much faster but I havnt tried with the beta.

Thanks! 16gb! Add external storage if you need later.

@@JerrySchulze awesome. Awesome. Much appreciated. Keep up the excellent work.

There’s plenty of touchscreen models available from other manufacturers.

Yep, I recommend 16 if you can get it.

Very nice!!!

So you had that i Mac for a year or less and already getting a new one which is not upgradable and can’t extend the ram up to 64 which you can on the 27 inch which the new one can only go to 16 which you can only do at purchase since everything is soldered onto the motherboard

Nice! I will probably be seeing my i7 2020 for now.

The graphics performance of the base 2020 27" is still better than the M1 but overall speed is better on the M1 than the base i5. Im not sure if I can downgrade is display size, though.

@@JerrySchulze I think your right plus the Intel iMacs are still powerfully upgradeable . Like for the M1 you only have 16GB of ram upgrade but the Intel you have I think even more plus a back part on the 27inch for more ram if you want to save money and so on to upgrade yourself

@@JerrySchulze my conundrum is that it's too big. I would have purchased a 24" option had it been available. 21" way to small and that machine sucked anyway. The 27" was the only real option last year for a desktop. For what I need this will definitely work better and I plan on keeping this one similar to my '11 MacBook. Thanks for your videos! Very helpful!

I don’t think I would be concerned about 80°C but if it were 90s and often maybe I would be. How often are you going to stress the computer like this. If it’s not multiple hours non stop every day I wouldn’t be concerned.

@@JerrySchulze I’m a fellow RU-vidr, so probably doing video editing and photo editing 1-2x a week in addition to all normal computer stuff. I’m guessing that’s not stressing the machine that much relative to the stuff you’re talking about. Thanks for the reply!

Sorry, I dont have a mini.

It will make a difference for longevity of the device.

@@JerrySchulze What does RAM does? What’s it’s job?

did you get it? :)

The single core performance of the M1 is so many times faster than your old i5 and will handle it really well. Not to mention the much much faster ssd.

I think it would be enough compared to what you are using now.

Especially with this model of iMac. I agree.

You basically have an imac, once you add the screen, and an adapter for Ethernet, and a few ports, plus you have a better keyboard, and trackpad, and the ability to be portable, when not using your 4K monitor. It does have you beat on speakers though, so an external speaker with line in will give you the best quality, or even stereo ones, and you can also use bluetooth, when the best quality and latency free is not needed, and use them anywhere. Comparable 4K screens of equal quality from Samsung and LG are but a few hundred dollars, you can even go ultra wide, or 5 k for not much more.

I have the m-1 MBP, I just ordered the 24 inch Imac. I will let you know what i think after a bit of use.

@@Tigerex966 I have to disagree about the monitor. 4K monitors of the quality in the iMac are not that cheap, when you can even find them. The LG UltraFine is closest in performance, and is ~$600 when you can find it in stock. Trackpad is a $50 addition to the base iMac if you don't get the mouse.

@@sundaynightdrunk I will disageree with you on this, there are plenty of superior 4 k monitors 27", if you check sales of course, between $400 and $700 dollars, and they have usbc, hdmi, display port, color accurate, many more adjustments, tilt and swivel, gaming and hdr modes, bright, and you can hook up your mini m1, plus a ps5/xbox, plus a roku or tv tuner, picture in picture, some even add a usb hub for even more ports, and have way more functionality, more ports, taking up the same amount of space, you only lose the great speaker, that any good quality $100 speaker can beat in quality and volume, and you can take those speakers elsewhere when not computing. Sadly none have sd card slots like imacs have had forever almost, or anyway to expand the memory. I wish you could just hook up an iphone or ipad or another m1 through thunderbolt, and be able to access than memory, cpu, and gpu power And you have a black much thinner bezel,

@@Tigerex966 Not a "few hundred dollars," but yeah, I agree with the rest. Then you have the cable situation as well, though. Not anywhere near as neat of a solution as an all-in-one, but if that doesn't matter to you, you can do well with a good monitor...color accuracy and brightness might not *quite* be there, but yes on the other advantages.

Honestly, I wouldn’t worry about it. Like charging a MacBook. Just use it and it will be fine. Unless you are rendering 4k video 22 hours per day.

I covered the fans in the video but I did forget about the 1 GPU core and in regular use it really didn't matter.

Either one will probably be a huge upgrade. I will always recommend you get 16gb if you can afford it. Other than that its up to you on the ports and keyboard.

If the table movement is smooth it should be OK. If lots of jerking motion it possibly could tip.

Either on the side or you need a USB adapter or dock.

Before you do plug in your speakers give the internal ones a listen. You'll be pleasantly surprised at how loud and clear they are and with Apple's spacial audio can do true Dolby Atmos surround. It's incredible. The computer is in the iMacs chin and the rest of the body is speaker ballasts for deep bass.

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Thanks but that didn’t help.

My mbp wouldn’t run the newer version of the app because it’s a mid 2010.

Ah, sorry.

Unless you get refurb and save money you may want to wait till fall to see if there is an update.

I would like to politely disagree. My friend’s dad had a Retina MacBook Pro 13” with 4gb RAM, but it was soldered, so even thought it supported recent versions of macOS it ran terribly [has since been replaced with base M1 Pro MBP 14”]. And my unibody MacBook Pro 13” had to be upgraded to 8gb RAM, otherwise it ran horrendously, and my iPad 6th gen with 2gb RAM was struggling with some multitasking, and that has been replaced with a 9th gen.

Probably but if you are editing a feature length film I would spring for a bit more horsepower.

Thats correct. And for a desktop you could save some money and get an external drive.

@@JerrySchulze Ya, I am already getting a drive and a powered USB hub since I can then also do my Music Production on the go on my iPad (getting the Scarlett 2i2 Studio Bundle and M-Audio Oxygen Pro Mini 32 key Midi Keyboard) so I really don't need to worry about that. Also, I most probably will get this after my Finals at the end of the term so I really don't need to worry about it right now :) But Seriously, thank you for making this video. :)

I appreciate that!

@@JerrySchulze Is an external drive as good as an internal? Why are so many people recommending to never get the 256 ssd model if you use the mac professionally?

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@@JerrySchulze Thanks man, really appreciate your quick response!

Yikes! Maybe look at an external Thunderbolt drive for more space ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TNymDSjkfjY.html

@@JerrySchulze This setup is necessary because I have a huge music collection and digital movie collection in HD. With iMacs not coming with a disc drive, I must buy an external disc drive in order to continue to upload my music collection. So I understand your viewpoint and appreciate your recommendations, certain recommendations don’t apply to every consumer. I’m an above average consumer, when I do pull the trigger on ANY investment, I’m going for the best I can get, and am aware of my financial limitations. Thank you again for responding, and your video was very helpful in the decision I came to. I will go to the site to purchase some items for the iMac when I make the purchase in the next month or so, as I saw things in this video I could use to simplify my iMac experience.

Only you know your requirements. Enjoy!

@@JerrySchulze Thank you again, and please know that your video was quite helpful. The website has lots wonderful things for an iMac, thank you for recommending that site!

I would get 16gb if you can. You will be happier in long run.

Whoop!!

I think so.

I would say 16GB BUT if gaming is important I would look for benchmarks on those games with the M1.

@@JerrySchulze Yes I don't do video editing and I don't play those games like hardcord gamers. I'm more concerned when I open a lot of applications and have 10+ tabs on chrome browsers. In terms of streaming or FaceTime ppl, there shouldn't be much noticeable difference between 7-core and 8-core, correct?

@@uidsid17 not in my use have I seen a noticeable difference between the 7 and 8 core.

Nice, thanks for sharing!

Nope, they sound the same.

@@JerrySchulze Thanks for the Response… Jerry … Appreciate it… I have ordered the basic Model …

I think so. I would suggest the 16gb if you can afford it.

Nope, the sleep mode does what you need.

If using display link for the extra displays I believe that uses CPU so shouldn't really matter.

Not available to order separate yet.

hmmm.....Interesting idea......

@@JerrySchulze Yea, but I guess companies want the continual revenue subscription streaming model, over physical media one time purchase model., as that is why, the media drives have all but been eliminated from electronics, besides gaming consoles, and those that want anything lag free, and at the best consistent quality without an internet collection. And with physical media, the customer can sell it later, so they lose control of you, and consider that used sell, money out of their pocket, toward a new game, or movie, and they cannot say you cannot trade it, or use it without their permission. which again means money out of their pocket. Apple, and others operates in this way, anything added to their computer needs to go through them for additional profit, that is why their is an app store, and soldered ram, and ssds, and proprietary chips, lightning, and a system that makes sure you can only by parts through them through hardware software fingerprinting, to the point if you take two new iPhones, and switch any screen battery or major part between the two new identical phones, it will give you a warning, not genuine apple product, if it works at all, even on the mac installing non apple store apps send you through numerous loops, sure it may help with security, but its mainly their to push you to only use the app store so apple can get 30% of what other developers make. Even some luxury car makes are moving toward the subscription model, as it is basically, renting forever, the benefit is you always have larger selection and the latest greatest, but cannot sell trade, and can only use by permission, and they can take it away at anytime by cancellation, or update. I think it can be done probably over wifi to an extent, but if someone can make a dock, box, or software, that actually let you use thunderbolt/usbc ports on a laptop, or all in one desktop, or even a mac mini, as video in ports to that display or back out through that device or the dock. I can see numerous consumer, and professional uses for it, and since thunderbolt is input and output, it should not be that hard to do. I would love to hook my ipad to my imac wired without latency, or to my macbook pro, bypassing the limits of streaming, and no need for internet, for gaming uhd movies, and what not. I prefer to be an owner not a renter.

Got a video for you in about 14.5 hours.

You found a custom config in stock? Can you buy it and return when you get the one you want?

I would place money on unexpected supply chain issues affecting just about everything now. Hope you enjoyed the video!

@@JerrySchulze I've been using macs since 1984 and sold them for 20 years. My wife is looking at getting a new imac and I told her to wait and not buy a 1st gen. I won't be a test bed for apple.

I like it.

There is no full support for windows on arm using parallels. If you need to run windows I still recommend the 2020 27” iMac. I just made another video about it. It’s the perfect Mac.

@@JerrySchulze Are you saying that Windows can not run on the new Imac yet using parallels?

@@genes6703 it’s running in beta but Microsoft also said they don’t plan any support for virtualization on M1 so it’s really up in the air long term.

Nice!

Even if they didn't sponsor, I still recommend them as you can probably see from past videos.

I can attest to one fact and you can do with it as you please. My 16GB/2TB M1 Mac mini out performs my 8-core Intel i9 MacBook Pro with it's 64GB RAM and 8GB discrete GPU. I'm talking about daily use as well as power intensive tasks like exporting an 8K timeline from Final Cut Pro or working with large 6720 × 4480 RAW stills in Photoshop. The M1's unified pool of memory is a feature, not a limitation. They just work with RAM differently and in a way where a little goes a long way. I am not the man to give the scientific reasons as to how that happens, like I said I'm just giving you a report from the field and commenting from the perspective of a photo/video professional that needs performance in a big way.

No they don't, I had 32Gb in my 27" iMac and with the M1 being so more efficient its not needed in these consumer iMac's. Undoubtedly the bigger iMac will have more RAM options but even the experts are saying 32Gb is all most professionals will need in the new Apple silicone Macs.

Along with 2 more ports and Touch ID ----- 1) one more fan with better cooling thanks to dedicated heat sink, 2) additional gpu core, and 3) ethernet port. So well worth the upgrade

Unfortunately yes you should have, storage can always be replaceable, I got the $1,499 +lus the 16GB ram with the Magic Touch Mouse & just 250 GB, I will definitely but a TB for it. But it’s also not hard to delete things.

Yeah I ordered mine with the extra ram 16gb because you can’t replace the ram but you can always add an external storage

Yesterday.