I don’t think people actually understand how “RIDICULOUS“ this actually is.. a x86 app running with translated software and performing better than in a native system is !CRAZY! 🤯
And that is how apple beats microsoft on arm chip race... this first gen arm chip already blew everything away unlike what happened to Surface Pro X last year
@@USNEM Google used the same camera in the Pixel for 4 years... and just updated it with software... no reason to think that Apple can't do some of that here...
I don’t think people actually understand how “RIDICULOUS “ this actually is.. an x86 app running with translated software and performing better than in a native system is !CRAZY! 🤯
Adding a touchscreen would add 9,999 premium to the price. They just making a breakthrough charging the same for m1 from intel. So why would they want to rush everything? Adding another trillion annually is what they do.
There are rumors that Apple will refresh its 16 inch MBP with 10th gen intel CPUs for one last time before transitioning to Apple Silicon. Don't get your hopes up too soon
Just chiming in to say the team at The Verge is doing an absolutely wonderful job with these reviews in spite of 2020 and all the challenges of wfh. The format of this review is super clever.
I agree! Amazingly slick editing and production, Verge team! Also helped persuade me to buy the MacBook Air (thank you!). QQ - Is the minus 100 nits brightness difference noticeable though?
@@VaibhavAgrawal01 Kyu bheek mang ke india ki image kharaab karta hai be ? Aise chutiyapa karke kya milta be. Kisi ke bhi man me jhaat bhar bhi izzat nahi badhti tereliye jab koi famous youtuber tere comment like karta hai to ulta hazaaro logo ki galiya khayega aise chaale karne se.
3 years in, Rosetta 2 is deprecated, Universal apps are just apps. M3 screams over and above the competition with so much more space and resources for computing.
This is mind blowing. Looking at how well ARM did on Windows, I didn’t have high hopes for Apple Silicon, and yet Apple has completely shattered my expectations.
Late comment but ARM never did well on Windows. Microsoft even stopped using ARM based chips on their Sufrace devices and started using Intel chips instead. Also they discontinued Windows 10X which never did run well on ARM based devices so not sure what do you mean by saying "Looking at how well ARM did on Windows" which never happened.
“Chrom pushes the battery DOWN to 8-10 hrs” ok Apple weren’t kidding when they said the battery life improved. Imagine getting 8-10hrs using chrome on any other Mac/windows laptop 😂
The script of this video, the direction, the editing, the music and of course the review itself can all be summarized with one word: "PRICELESS!". In my opinion, this video outshines almost every other past Verge video. To all the people who put this video together, keep it up! And, thanks.
@@xOogieBoogie3x They should be worse than ZEN 3, if it weren’t, the M1 chip would be insane. Keep in mind that it will be the lowest end Apple Silicon chip for Mac’s so. Still tho, it got a more powerful single-core or at least it matches the single-core scores of ZEN 3 and this is while using 1/5 of the wattage. Apple are off to a very good start with Apple Silicon, now we just need to wait and see if they can scale it up to compete with AMD in desktop as well. If you don’t think the M1 chip is looking impressive than I don’t know what kind of insane performance gains you are expecting.
Yeah, this is the big jump I've been waiting for. I ordered a Macbook Pro today. I might have gotten a MacBook Air if I had spent more time looking them both over, but then maybe not. Better cooling is not a small thing because you never know, you know.
@Dave Chapelle based on this video and my needs as of right now everything I need is in the air and the pro is more beefy in what it can do but both reach expectations. Don’t get me wrong I’d like the pro but given the way things are it would be better for me to save the money and go with the Air.
@@parole1768 Is your livelihood dependent on editing videos or making music? If not take the 8GB memory. Apple has optimised its software to fully stretch out that 8GB memory using their M1 chip so you won't feel sluggish working on it.
iOS apps being available on macOS could be huge for security and privacy. Banking for example. If I can use my banks iOS app on macOS, I don't have to go to their website in a web browser, where I could accidentally mistype the URL, or be subject to a browser exploit, man-in-the-middle or phishing attack etc.
No. Most of the time you get "hacked", it's because you stupidly use stupid password, or put your password unencrypted digitally, or someone social engineers you, which is basically your fault.
See long story short. For a company like Apple, who charges such an exorbitant price for their products and services, they better be the best in class. That is expected from them. Nothing to be so geeked about.
I'm honestly so surprised that this went as well as it did. I wasn't expecting a dumpster fire or anything, but I was not really expecting much better than Intel based macs on non-native apps. Great job Apple. I have to say though, I had much higher hopes for the webcam after hearing about the better image processing. The main reason that webcams look so bad is the lack of a good strong ISP in normal computers. That truly is a dumpster fire.
The problem isn't actually the hardware. It's the distance from the pcb. You see it with windows 2-in-1s. Their webcams are so much better than the laptops because the image data can be processed by the cpu directly. On laptops, the wired runs are via USB 2.0, which is terrible for latency and throughput.
I'm actually using the web cam, (I upgraded from a MacBook Pro i5) it's much better than on the previous Macs, these guys are lying basically, because unexpectedly they couldn't find any other faults with the M1!
@@jackdominiak445 it’s more about the fact that compared to almost every other laptop at similar price points you get a much better camera. It’s also the fact that more people are working at home and would expect a very good camera on a “Pro” machine rather than just an ok one. It’s apple being stingy again, as they are with reducing ports, and expensive r]RAM and storage upgrades. It’s right to call them out on this every single time rather than just accept it. Having said all that, these laptops and the apple mini are impressive, and I’m kind of tempted to get a Mac mini now. I see a lot of comments from windows users who are curious as well.
I was convinced when they launched the iWatch and AirPods. Hopefully this leadership will continue into the future. Apple can best be described in two words: Innovative ecosystem
The move to its own processor is part of Jobs's plan in 2008 just a year after the launch of iPhone. Not only that, he predicted the move before he rejoined Apple
@@The-Heart-Will-Testify Which was a rip of products from another company. Steve wasn’t magic. He just knew what he liked (and that’s probably the biggest understatement here).
Apple hardware engineers have done an amazing job. They got a lot of experience designing chips for the iPhone and now they applied it for the notebooks. Can't even wait for the second generation of these things.
These guys are too good! Been watching these reviews for years now, Nilay is amazing and Dieter is also great and add a new point of view, which is always welcome.
@@theartshow1476 Nah, Mac users experienced it too when Intel didn‘t hold their huge promises on power efficient 10nm chips in 2016, which were supposed to be used for the 12“ fan-less MacBook. It was partly Intel‘s fault that the 12“ MacBook had to be discontinued. And now 4 years later Intel is still trying to deliver on those „efficient“ 10nm chips. *Edit: admittedly, Intel‘s new 11th CPU is quite good and competes with TSMCs 7nm node. But a little too late to be taken seriously at that point. And whether that decent quad core CPU is even scalable remains to be seen. It‘ll have to if they want to have any chance in keeping up with AMD and Apple.
AMD has been demolishing Intel the last couple years too, especially with the most recently released Ryzen chips. It's like Intel isn't even trying any more. The company a shadow of its former self.
@@jeffkung5088 they can easily come out with a laptop that does everything everyone wants to do but then there would be no reason for people to upgrade for a long time
They need to update the aging Surface Pro laptops to look like the Surface X and they and Apple really lost their minds with the prices on their ARM based laptops. I have the 12.9 inch iPad Pro and the 2017 Surface Pro and have no reason to upgrade either for a while so I'm hoping by the time I decide to do so that the very least Surface Pro laptops and the Surface keyboard get refreshed with a bigger track pad and smaller bezels. I'm hoping that Apple eventually gets Mac OS on iPad Pro since they did so well with their that Mac using their own processors.
@@Htrdtte44tyy That has nothing to do with my comment, and with images of the upcoming Surface Pro 8 and is huge outdated bezels Microsoft needs to step up. M1 MacBook Pros have already had Windows on ARM installed and no surprises it wipes he floor of even Surface Pro X2 with the new mobile CPU in it. Once Microsoft start to license out Windows on ARM OS that will definitely be a major step forward in app creation and adoption of developers making and optimizing apps.
@@sourav7162 5$ on Ali express to buy so lmao thanks late, as if a minus even 5$ cost on a computer was a reason for a company to change a design architecture
Back in 2013, I Bought a MacBook Pro 13 inch because it was clearly better than the air. It had a better display, much better performance and it was clearly the best thing for the future This time around it is different, the Air is much much closer to the 13” Pro, and is a fantastic offering.
Same here. Still rocking a mid 2014 pro. At the time it was a no brainer vs the Air, but now that I’m probably going to buy an M1, Air seems the way to go
Air is the clear winner this round. Due to efficiency of the M1 chip, you get similar performance, similar battery life, and a similar screen for significantly cheaper. Based on what I’ve seen in this video, I don’t even see a need for the 2-port MacBook Pro to even exist. For example, Id much rather have the Air with 16GB of Unified memory for $1200, than pay $1300 for a base 2-port Pro. If you’re dead set on the Pro, it would definitely be worth it to wait for the upgraded AS chip with 4-ports and a higher performance ceiling.
Thank you@@Marius_ae! Unfortunately budget is capped as my friend needs to make the purchase to replace their old macbook pro which has died ASAP, so waiting and saving more isn't really an option. They have enough for either of the options mentioned above, but we can't work out if it's worth getting a Pro with less ram than an Air for the same price.
@@shadician short answer it isn’t for an average user :) the performance is similar, but because of the cooling fan in the Pro it can handle heavy work loads over longer time without a drop in performance. It Also has a bit better battery, but the airs battery is Also great at this point. The price difference really isn’t worth it for the average user, and 16 gigs of ram vs 8 gigs is a no brainer. I say go for the 16 gig Air :)
What are you doing with the computer? That’s the question. As they explain in the video, the MacBook Pro can be pushed harder because it has a fan, but the two models are basically just as powerful. When it comes to RAM, it’s not as clear cut. I can tell you the MacBook Pro 8GB model does not feel like an 8GB laptop. It’s hard to believe until you use it, but it can easily handle 4K footage in FCPX without breaking a sweat. You will hit a wall with the RAM if you’re really pushing the machine though.
I like this video a lot, but I was seriously astounded by the editing on those smooth transitions of you both talking about 3/4 into the video! I love the way that there was little to no pauses in between of you both talking and giving your views on the respective machines that you independently reviewing. It's a very good video and the editing is top notch!
Docker just dropped its beta version, they expect it to release in a few weeks. Python, java and everything else works perfectly. Vs code runs on Rosetta for now, Microsoft announced that the native version is coming in a few weeks. Homebrew is also in the works and native version will be out in a week. NodeJS also works perfectly
Sounds like the problem is Chrome, and not Apple. Direct your frustration at Google. While you're at it, switch to the chromium version of Microsoft Edge, it's Chrome without with Google privacy nightmare.
@@mrifan8625 I personally do for 99% of the websites I use. Some however don't like to play ball in Safari, RU-vid being one of them (shocker!). Plus Safari is missing a few extensions I use in other browsers. My browser preference rank is Safari > Firefox > Edge (Chromium) > Chrome.
for web development the chrome developer tools are top of the line, safari dev tools are better then in the past but trust me nobody uses them unless you’re troubleshooting something on an iPhone.
I wouldnt say miles ahead in smart watch or laptop. Id say they are first in smartwatch, but not miles ahead of something like galaxy watch, which had features like variable refresh rate display and sleep tracking years before the apple watch got it, and so the competition is close there. In laptops, apple only competes in a small sliver of the overall market, and even then, its always a question of price when making the comparisons, so once again, even if you want to say they're first, you can't say they are miles ahead of people like Dell and Microsoft.
@@GrymShip M1 isn't mature but Apple have been messing around with ARM for quite some time now. I'm pretty sure it's a good investment already. Even though it'll obviously rapidly improve over the next generations.
Yeah, why would you need a touch screen on a laptop? I don't get it. There's already a really nice trackpad. And if you still want to touch the screen, get an iPad.
If you had an iPad, you wouldn't give a damn for touch laptop. -user. Also they are selling ipad pros as big and powerful as laptops but nobody ditched macbook.
I'm pretty happy with how apple is behaving currently, I'm an apple "hater" if you can say so, but lately they are really doing a great job and Qualcomm, intel, amd etc can FINALLY get some decent competition. Now that Nvidia bought ARM I really want to see some decent arm processor to match/beat the M1
@@rohankauts2339 most recent gen was actually almost debatable i thought, but yeah generally apple ARM chips demolish qualcomm, especially in practical use. intel gave up on the competition last year, until they get out a new line and 7nm they just dont have a hope
@@rohankauts2339 Only in synthetic benchmarks, which doesn't accurately depict proper performance, especially between two different architectures. Geekbench specifically has been caught changing test scores to favor iOS over Android, and Windows/Mac over LInux. In real world use, like basic photo editing or video editing, Qualcom chips, heck even exynos models, generally outperform apple's Bionic.
I’m from the U.K. and I’m a big fan of ARM, they should have never been allowed to be sold to an overseas country.....not sure if ARM’s acquisition by Nvidia will be a good thing, time will tell. ARM tech really has the ability to make waves in the desktop computing world. As can be witnessed by Apples switch to ARM tech, and we are also now seeing AMR based laptops too. By the way Qualcomm chips are also ARM based.
Firefox’s dedication to privacy is on par with Apple’s. And the team is smaller, so it feels more intimate when you receive emails from Mozilla. Plus, their Internet safety newsletters = THE BEST.
I use Bias FX on Ableton live 10 and it's not currently working on Bigsur, I recommend patience don't upgrade yet, you might have some compatibility issues
@@carlitoxb110 seems is not ready for prime time yet. But that’s even the case with OS updates. As always in music, wait a year for the kinks to be ironed out.
