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M1 MAX 16" MACBOOK PRO Review | 9 MONTHS LATER 

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Honest long-term review of my experience with the M1 Max 16" macbook pro and the issues I've encountered. WATCH NEXT: Is the M1 Max 16" good for travelling? • M1 Max 16 inch Macbook...
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@reuven_olszewski
@reuven_olszewski Год назад
Keeping your batterie between 20-80% is the best way to enhance battery life. Sometimes my battery get's below 20% and I charge it to 100% when I am traveling because I need more than 60% of the capacity, but when I am on my desk I always keep it between 20-80%. There are apps like Al Dente which allow to set charging limits, so even if you MacBook is plugged in all the time it will stay at 80%. I just got about 100 charging cycles in 5 month of everyday use and the battery is still at 99% capacity.
@intothedetails1972
@intothedetails1972 Год назад
You have become a master of storytelling Lila - Your videos are entertaining and joyable to watch. The amount of sheer effort and focus you have put into your work is inspirational and greatly appreciated.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Oh wow thank you! Always striving to be better
@jon-uncommoncreator1621
@jon-uncommoncreator1621 Год назад
Lila, your timing is immaculate. I just got myself this exact build and it's great!
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
ooohhh enjoy!!
@Phungtastic
@Phungtastic Год назад
Hey Lila, have you ever worked on the same project / transfered projects between your Macbook and PC systems using an external SSD? If so, how was your experience? I'm considering picking up a Macbook Pro sometime in the future so that I can edit on the go because of their durability and efficiency vs Windows Laptops, and then use my PC that I keep for gaming as well, to edit at home since I have a strong build already.
@ConorORegan
@ConorORegan Год назад
The audio editing in this video is subtle but it’s really helpful
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
😇
@cwai_art
@cwai_art Год назад
Thank you for pointing out Software issues and whether they are caused by the hardware or not. And thank you for the battery tip. That really makes me feel comfortable with investing in a laptop of this price.
@Shannon_Vlogs
@Shannon_Vlogs Год назад
Excellent overview! Battery life is super important! Glad it’s going well!
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Soooo important! I would hate to have to plug it in every 2 hours when I’m on the go 😅 I’m way more flexible now
@sxuvenirperu
@sxuvenirperu Год назад
Really nice video !!! I just bought the M1 Max 16" , 64GB of ram and 2TB, mainly for photo editing and music production, was wondering how much storage did you got?
@cwTheDrummist
@cwTheDrummist Год назад
Lila! Your work space is epic. Thanks for such a great breakdown on how the MacBook Pro has been working out for you! Awesome as always! 😎
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Thanks Chris!! I hope this video will be valuable to others who're looking into this laptop. It's a beast!
@k.o.t.o.n.
@k.o.t.o.n. Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube try the zyphyrus m6 2022 with 3080ti 12900h and 100w usb-c pd power bank, you get narly the sam experience, expect it is faster with 240w power bank at exporting and not much slower with 100w power, also it can game, lighter, more comfortable to hold, and if you wna tmore power legion 7i with mini led screen and 135w c charging, has more performance quality materials but heavier and less battery life.
@DoObs
@DoObs Год назад
@Lila I've had my MBP 16 Pro 1tb 16gig for over 3months....really happy with it. Its great to have a mobile powerhouse machine on the go. I have been working for a clothing company where I have been using my machine for their content. So its been pretty sufficient. I've not noticed the fans ramping when exporting etc...but that maybe because I have been using 3rd party software called Macs Fan control. Where I manually set my fans to 2500RPM for idle and then when I am exporting I would push them up to full blast which is the setting name. I did find that the screen panel has this film over over it. So if stuff is sitting inbetween the keys and the screen you are most like going to have tiny indents on your MBP screen. So I put a piece of cloth in between to protect from any further lose whatever that magically gets there. Lastly I added one of those protective plastic shells which clips on the top and bottom of the MBP. Just cause I'm anal about keeping the machine in mint condition for as long as possible.
@gulchugani8686
@gulchugani8686 5 месяцев назад
Hi Lila, great review as usual. I have the same configuration and very happy. I also use the Dell 4919DW external monitor,. I need a technical reply from you, whats the cable exactly called that connects the M1 Max via usb c to the Dell monitor? I hear you mentioned Thurderbold? Could you provide any link as I see many types and getting confused. I need to replace the cable as is giving me some issues with time. The same cable should give video signal and charge the M1 Max same time. Thanks! Happy New Year!
@r0tb3rt
@r0tb3rt Год назад
I was using a Thinkpad X1 Extreme and finally made the decision to switch to the Max Pro which arrives tomorrow. Lookin forward to. Thank you for the good review!
@Whoisrowaters
@Whoisrowaters Год назад
I just enrolled into film school and they said we will be getting this, as well as the iPad Pro for our student work setup. Looking forward to it. I love your videos. Keep up the great work!
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Oh wow, very nice! Your school gets bonus points haha
@Whoisrowaters
@Whoisrowaters Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube lol so far so good. I can not complain haha
@ThomasHaydenDJ
@ThomasHaydenDJ Год назад
Your video editing and the way you presented this video is great. Keep being awesome! Cheers :)
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Thank you so much 😁
@shaneparent3114
@shaneparent3114 Год назад
Thanks for the great video! I'm a photographer but i want to get into video eventually. Will the M1 Max 10-24, 32gb and 2tb be enough or should I stick with 64gb and 1tb?
@glokkjhit4749
@glokkjhit4749 Год назад
If you want to video edit ram is very important, it will allow you do do multiple things at once and getting more of it makes sure you don’t run out of ram when doing things like exporting or doing things in the background,and end up loosing your project, so I recommend 64 GB of ram, especially fr video editing, but it’s obviously up to you,
@StianTorp
@StianTorp Год назад
Great video, Lila! I did buy the 16’’ m1 max in february, and still love it! I did aldo have the same issues, but thats when I havent restarted the mac for a while. IDK, but I do like the machine a lot😉👍
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Haha it’s easy to never restart it!
@AriMWeinstein
@AriMWeinstein Год назад
Very informative. Makes me think about getting one with a third-party monitor like yours (looks amazing!) instead of a Studio desktop.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
The apple store adviced against getting the new Mac studio because they said my MacBook is powerful enough to handle it all. I like the ultrawide a lot, although it doesn’t have Retina display. If we could get an ultrawide with a Matte retina 5k display, heck yes 😂
@WKANALE
@WKANALE Год назад
Thanks for this review Lila. Have a nice day!☕🍰
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
you too!!
@djleechcraft
@djleechcraft Год назад
Nice production yo
@manikandanviswanathan
@manikandanviswanathan Год назад
Nice to learn from you🙏🏻
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
😊
@dougcooper4917
@dougcooper4917 Год назад
Great Video. Thank You Lila.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Thanks Doug!
@KrishnenduKes
@KrishnenduKes Год назад
I am having exactly the same reactions, plus and negatives as you. Amazing work process. But it runs out of memory. I am on 12.2.1. Also, I am using the 16 inch 64 Gigs 2Tb version. I have become a big fan. And my fans have come on just once and that was today. This is despite using massive uses on Premiere with Stabiliser working on 10 clips at a time lol! What is the keyboard that you are using for your Macbook?
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
the MX keys amzn.to/3PLp3UA
@dissidentart5603
@dissidentart5603 Год назад
I got the base model 16’ MacBook Pro and I knew it would be amazing for video editing in resolve, my biggest concern was using my chosen photo editor Darktable but it worked well on Rosetta and even better now that the program is native. Honestly I think Rosetta has been the most under appreciated part of the new Macs
@TylersEclectic
@TylersEclectic Год назад
Oh! I love my M1 max 16”!! Quick question where did you get that dope wallpaper for your MacBook??
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Google 😂
@TylersEclectic
@TylersEclectic Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube well played 😆 cheers!
@BrannonNod
@BrannonNod Год назад
Hey Girl... Looking pretty Legit on your channel 👌 I see we're still using Adobe Premiere Pro So question do you ever find your self lagging with all the transitions sound effects etc. And have to close out Adobe and re launch and it clears it out for a bit but then happens all over again about a hr of work later?
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Thanks Brannon! Adobe and I are happily married lol. I haven't really had the issue you're describing, but like I mentioned in the video, motion graphics froze a couple of times which was very annoying. Have you tried deleting cache??
@BrannonNod
@BrannonNod Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube lol yeah about that... Thanks for reminding me..I do that like I forget to save my project predicatlly...until it crashes🤪 Thanx Darlin...Keep on Keeping On⚘️
@tombuck
@tombuck Год назад
Awesome long term review! Glad you’re enjoying the MacBook! My 14” is running like an absolute champ 👍
@boxofchocolates2362
@boxofchocolates2362 Год назад
of course it is, that's what it's designed to do.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
haha long term reviews >>>>> do you have the same configuration?
@tombuck
@tombuck Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube I have the 14” version but I love it.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
@@tombuck same config? 64gb ram and 2 tb? I really wish I maxed out the storage 😅
@jurrydevries4006
@jurrydevries4006 Год назад
Hi, I like the 9 month real life review a lot. I recognize most of your observations. I bought the 16 inch M1 Max 32 Gb, with 2 TB storage. Didn’t go for the 14 inch because that model is throttling back too much with the higher end chips. Plus I love the screen of the 16 inch plus the speakers of 16 inch are better as well. What do I regret? I should have gone for the 64 Gb version. My bad
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
I regret not maxing out the storage. 2 tb is so easy to fill up with the a7siii 😅
@jurrydevries4006
@jurrydevries4006 Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube True, but I only do photos so the 2 TB is ok for me. With your line of work I can imagine you want as much storage as possible
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Ah I get it! 2tb sounds like enough space in that case. But yes 64gb of ram and 8 tb of storage would have been perfect (and painfully expensive haha)
@ConorORegan
@ConorORegan Год назад
The b roll for this video is clean!
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Thanks conor!
@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife Год назад
This was a great review and is actually helping me make a M2 Macbook decision hopefully later this month. Can I ask about your Apple wallpaper with multiple apple logo silhouettes in different colors? Where did you get that? It's awesome!
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Thanks! Got it from google images haha
@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube I found kind of a muted one and took it into photoshop to make it pop more like yours... but yours is still way cooler ;). I'll keep looking. I just discovered you, loving your content.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
@@TheThaiLife thanks! i found the wallpaper on my laptop so if you want it, shoot me an email :)
@TheThaiLife
@TheThaiLife Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube Oh my gosh, you rock!
@RobiKrsnik
@RobiKrsnik Год назад
Nice vid! Those colors actually look cool and are perfect for you 😁💪🏻!
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
I love black but I also really liked this setup haha 😂
@RobiKrsnik
@RobiKrsnik Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube yeah i must admit it looks really nice 😁 but black is also a must 😁
@vincentwilliams363
@vincentwilliams363 Год назад
Got the same MBP, M1 Max w/64, 2TB. Took almost two months to arrive... well worth the wait! It replaces a Mac Mini late-2012, so obviously a continental leap forward. My work is mostly print-related (labels, manuals, direct-mail) so it's technically more muscle than actually needed, but I want this to last 10 years like its predecessor. It's already paid for itself in the first month, the sticker-shock wore off quick. The only issue I have noticed is the trackpad not immediately responding when opening up to start working (usually out on the road). I use a mouse with it anyway. Even though the 16" screen is awesome on the road and fits everything for the most part, I use a 4K 32" at home; the MBP is capable of powering more if I had the deskspace. Very happy with this machine.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
oh interesting, i haven't noticed the (un)responsiveness of the trackpad. I'll pay attention to it to see if it's happening on my laptop too. I'm glad you made the right decision! I honestly forget i'm working on just a laptop when i have it hooked up to my monitor
@vincentwilliams363
@vincentwilliams363 Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube I think I figured out what the issue was ... I have a Magic Mouse in my carry bag that I use only when out on the road. It was left on, and in the bag, the mouse button was pushed down by the sides of the bag itself, so the trackpad wasn't responding to ME because it was responding to the mouse in the bag instead. :P
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
😂
@SuperFilmregisseur
@SuperFilmregisseur Год назад
I got the m1 max 16 inch after watching 1000 reviews saying it was a futuristic spaceship, I started doing as much of everything at once and the fans kicked in not that long afterwards. App launch time takes a few bounces before it starts up, so it's not like a light switched like so many people said without a doubt. Also, I saw a lot of people (myself included) having a problem with the speakers crackling as if the computer is choking, when there is cpu of gpu intensive tasks. I can't help but be bummed out, cause I had to wait 4 months for it to arrive and did nothing but watch reviews on it and people kept insisting that it was absolutely perfect time and time again
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Oh wow that’s bad! Sorry to hear that. Could it be that you got a faulty one? My speakers haven’t crackled once. I think that for a laptop it’s really powerful, but it’s not perfect. Is it possible fo return it?
@SuperFilmregisseur
@SuperFilmregisseur Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube well, the speakers are fantastic of course, but when for example I'm loading an after effects ram heavy timeline and playing spotify or youtube or movie or anything with volume, speakers start to crack every 10-20 seconds as if it's telling me to not lay such a heavy load upon it or it can't keep up. There's a youtube video with Beethoven playing on the m1 max where it's crackling and TONS of comments all say the same thing. I'm afraid it was a big batch of factory faults released into the world :( I got it 2 months ago, and there is a 1 year warranty by default, so I might be able to return it..
@glitchinthematrix9306
@glitchinthematrix9306 Год назад
@@SuperFilmregisseur thats definetely cpu related
@makingtheweb6620
@makingtheweb6620 Год назад
Sales people are selling on RU-vid as they influence minds.
@TechTherapyGuy
@TechTherapyGuy Год назад
Hi Lila! long time ha? I have the old model and I had few problems, I have both mac and Dell XPS and I have less problems with Dell XPS, I use mostly my Dell because at Work everything is Windows base and its such must easy using my Dell, anyways I love your video and take care yourself!
@ride66
@ride66 Год назад
Does the display reflects a lot?
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Hmmm I haven’t really experienced that because I set it to full brightness. I can imagine this might be more of a thing if you dim the screen
@Mbro-dq2do
@Mbro-dq2do Месяц назад
I rebuilt my old 2011 17" intel Macs. Beefed with 16GB RAM and tyore out the old mechanical harddrives and put in SSD's Patched them with Open Core Legacy. running sonoma flawlessly on the 2011. I want Apple to make new 17" displays. Id buy them in a heartbeat.
@JustRupes
@JustRupes Год назад
I have a ROG Strix that I daily drive for creating and for work (IT Support) i7, 64gb with 3 SSD drives for Prem Pro, but have just bought the M2 13” MacBook Pro as a smaller option to take with me on shoots for reviewing footage and basic editing, mainly for the battery life, so far it’s been awesome.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Oh that’s exciting! How do you like the smaller screen?
@JustRupes
@JustRupes Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube It's limited, but fine as a small powerhouse. I have got a big 4k monitor in the office for when I get back and a lovely little USB C adaptor that a certain awesome youtuber gave me :-D which connects them. I have a USB colour calibrator so the monitors are all pretty close for colour grading. I like the fact that I can use the big monitor to have all the editing stuff open and then use the MacBook LCD as a full screen preview window. It's early days, as have not touched a Mac since 2013, and run a PC IT support business so going with a Mac is totally unprecedented, but I have to say so far I really like it.
@gutekf
@gutekf Год назад
Came for another Macbook review to reassure myself about my buying choices (16" M1 Max 24-core, 32 GB- just rulez) and ended up with a solution for mystery of washed out exported videos with QT Gamma Compensation. Love your work, Lila. Not only do you deliver promise from the video title but also include loads of useful tips and advices. Many thanks.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Appreciate your comment! I’m glad I was able to help a little by mentioning the LUT 😊
@AntonioCamunas
@AntonioCamunas 6 месяцев назад
Whoa awesome
@Dmogul
@Dmogul Год назад
I recently picked up the 13 inch M1, because I needed a new one faster than I could get enough money to get the 16inch Pro, I definitely need to get a monitor, I feel the same way about screen space, I’m use to having a 16inch so going down to a 13 is brutal 😂
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Oh man that is brutal 😂
@Penguinandpear
@Penguinandpear 8 месяцев назад
Does it edit ok?
@Dmogul
@Dmogul 8 месяцев назад
Heck yeah, I’ve edited 8K Raw on it a few times. It handles 4k log 10bit just fine
@cesardelrio2908
@cesardelrio2908 Год назад
20% of all the projects I’ve worked on Mac and 80% on Windows. Both are amazing machines, love a lot more the apple screen though, but I’ll stick to Windows just because I’ve used it my entire life and know how to deal with pretty much all the problems it may present during shootings.
@karanj99
@karanj99 Год назад
Which laptop are you using? I’m confusing between mac & windows laptop
@cesardelrio2908
@cesardelrio2908 Год назад
@@karanj99 Dell XPS 15
@jaywalker.
@jaywalker. Год назад
@@karanj99 The XPS line is great. You might also consider the Lenovo Slim 7 Pro X if you want a slim productivity machine.
@TuckerPearce
@TuckerPearce Год назад
3 times in 9 months getting a memory leak doesn’t sound too bad. An annoyance of course. I have the 14 inch M1 Pro with 32GB of Ram and I’ve had zero issues with the computer. I hear so many complaints about Premiere. Wondering is it really Premiere or Plugins that people are using that cause the issues. Then again I’m not using 10bit video. I shouldn’t say I have zero issues, sometimes when I layer in GoPro footage I have to scale down the video playback quality. Great video by the way. Love the quick flow, the lighting and the awesome edit. I hope you are well.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
I honestly haven't had many problems with premiere, except for the memory leak thing which seems to be MacOS related. I don't really use a lot of plugins so when premiere is slow, it's def premiere and not plugins. But again, that rarely happens as I edit 10 bit 4k footage in full res in premiere without issue. thanks for the compliments tucker! I hope you'll continue to enjoy the M1 pro!!
@TuckerPearce
@TuckerPearce Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube 10bit 4K with no issues without proxies, love it. Use to hate using proxies. Thanks again!
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Haha yeah I never use proxies. Good stuff :)
@AVA21398
@AVA21398 Год назад
I see you've got a 64 GB RAM memory but the latest I can find on the official site is M1 Max 32 GB . How come?
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
I don’t work for Apple lol. The 64gb is the highest M1 Max model they hsve
@Interpreterify
@Interpreterify Год назад
Is it good for medium gaming please reply
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
I only play sims and it’s great for that. Haven’t played other games.
@Interpreterify
@Interpreterify Год назад
@@lilafromyoutube would it be possible if asked you to try something like valorant or paladins 😅
@skypeguitarman
@skypeguitarman Год назад
I've got MAC PRO but it does not accept Adobe Pr -- so I use Microsoft Levano
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
huh??
@Daan_Spieard
@Daan_Spieard Год назад
I literally jumped at 01:00 when I heard the agenda notification.. Afraid I had forgotten an appointment.. 😅
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
HAHAHA
@Joeofalltradess
@Joeofalltradess Год назад
So no computer specs?? Or did I miss it?
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
I think I mentioned most specs. M1 Max, 64 GB ram, 2 tb SSD storage
@pharmokan
@pharmokan Год назад
lol at that pauseface
@sijilo
@sijilo Год назад
☺️
@GeorgeChristofi
@GeorgeChristofi Год назад
16 inch screen is a bit small. The wifes alienware is a lovely machine with a 17 inch screen.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Would love a 17 inch MacBook!
@benloschnigg9275
@benloschnigg9275 Год назад
Just wanted to say that I love this video. I work in Mechatronics and hobby wise do video editing. I recently purchased the 16” Macbook Pro M1 Max and it is now my main tool every day for mechanical and software design. Because of Apples new chip architecture Apple Macs do have bad compatibility when it comes to CAD design like Solid works and Creo. Even with parallels you wont get those programs running. There are alternatives like Fusion 360 though. I’ve had a windows for a few years to use certain CAD programs, so don’t call me an apple fag, but I will pick my mac pro always unless I don’t have a choice. All in all (in my opinion) an amazing machine.
@merrh8819
@merrh8819 8 месяцев назад
According to your experience, do o you think it's still worth getting a MBP M1 max now?
@benloschnigg9275
@benloschnigg9275 8 месяцев назад
@@merrh8819 From what I've seen now, the new MBP M2 max does not boast the performance boost which would justify paying multiple thousand more for it. So if you're talking about getting a used MBP M1 max, that would in my opinion be the way to go. My MBP M1 max has still had no problem with anything I've thrown at it to this day. It will also most likely have no problem for a long time.
@jjjjjkkkkk
@jjjjjkkkkk Год назад
drink every time she says creative
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
How drunk are you?
@silverscreenentertainers
@silverscreenentertainers Год назад
First comment🥰
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
winner!!
@ed3osp
@ed3osp Год назад
Alien tech.
@pharmokan
@pharmokan Год назад
lol @ that pauseface
@mrrolandlawrence
@mrrolandlawrence Год назад
the 16" is the best by miles. the 14" is for bloggers & people who like to browse the internet. if you need to work, its the 16"...
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
yeah I definitely need the screen size
@trakahamid
@trakahamid Год назад
👍👍👍👍
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@shihab7857
@shihab7857 Год назад
Plz give me ur laptop
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
Absolutely
@desirenadia5478
@desirenadia5478 Год назад
Adobe is the problem
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
thankfully 99.9% of the time it's smooth sailing.
@SebastianSchachner
@SebastianSchachner Год назад
I would say you didn't even need it to begin with. If you are not a apple only fan, you don't need mac anyways. I will unless i have to for work never go apple. Don't need it, don't see a use for it. Also definitly not for that price tag
@benowa
@benowa Год назад
When you want a reliable, efficient and beautiful machine that will last more than 5 years you NEED a Mac.
@lilafromyoutube
@lilafromyoutube Год назад
it's a lot of money but I am confident this macbook will last me a while
@heirloomportrait9562
@heirloomportrait9562 Год назад
Well that is a statement from people not sure what they are talking about. I had adell xps 15 9510 i9 came with 1tb of ssd and 16gb ram. That was £2700 to start with. By the time I upgraded it to 2x 2tb of ssd and 64 gb of ram it almost cost as much as the pro max 16 with 64gb of ram and 4tb of ssd. This laptop broke down totally in Aigust. 6 months. Dell. Got into service waited over a month to get it back, after a week broken. Again. For over 4000. Thanks but no thanks. Not anymore. Fans are loud as hell, laptop is burning hot, and I used it for mainly photo editing, nothing demanding less than 100 hours. Looking at all these reviews seems like the pro max is waaaay better investment long or short term, no matter what with only a bit of extra cash on top.
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