Like the journalistic neutral tone of the title and voice over. No drama. The audio is sub par to draw me to pay closer attention. Short, sweet, and non polished. Back to basics. Well done. m2 pro Mac Mini 1TB and 32GB ram for me.
The base model m1 Mac mini I have is 2455 and write 3002 now it goes down some after I continue but Apple did not do the SSD nans and put it all on one chip instead of two 128GB.
Companies cheap out all the time. From the houses you buy to the cars you drive to the food you eat. They also do price anchoring, demand-shaping and other tricks I don't even know about. I wonder too how the longevity is affected. It may be that the NAND outlasts the capacitors and varistors in the power section. As for performance, one way to look at it is that a minimum performance spec is more than adequate for 95% of users. If no one told us the SSD was half as fast as it could be, most of us would never know. The way I see it is the first $200 upgrade should be the RAM. The next $200 is harder. Probably SSD.
Bullshit. Typical Sata 15 years ago was 80mb/s at 200 iops. Your 1500 mbs is _fantastic_. But I don’t care about mbps, it’s all about iops. And yes, for 99% it’s more than enough. You will pay for typical “ssd” in the cloud with 500 iops with some boosts. While at home this one will deliver 30-50x more. Those imbecile reviewers saying base m2 for casual usage have no clue. This pc beats 10k machine 5 years ago. Don’t say your Facebook RU-vid browsing demands more now. As if it requires 10k 5yo machine for browsing
@@Dede_Stepas It still does not beat an AMD Threadripper or Epyc. Yes it beats a 10k Apple machine from 5 years ago. But that has to do with the MacPro prices. If you count GPU (for calculations not creator video encoding/decoding) it's still pretty bad compared to any PC. Even CPU is far less than my 12900k (which is at Mac Studio Ultra level). The GPU is why i think we will never see a MacPro with this design. It just don't scale well enough. Prove me wrong on March 14th
@@llothar68 my comment was not about niche requirements and corner cases. Just about “slow” 256gb disks and basic m2 being “good enough for browsing and casual basic needs”. Even crappy celeron or intel “j” series are good enough for this. And last 20 years I was solving real life performance issues. It was never cpu. Always IO speeds and DB backends with lame queries 1st and sometimes lack of memory 2nd. All those GPU related ones are niche to say the least.
can you do a stress test video ? For example opening as many tabs in safari as you want while watching 4 4K videos? Just to see how far does this base model go.
It won't go that far with 256 GB of storage but will beat out 100% of mini PCs. It will have the exact same power as the M2 Macbook Pro and will not have any more so you can compare it to that model if you don't find any other information cheers!
@@llothar68 The M2 13 inch Macbook Pro is exactly the same as the M2 mac mini. The Same M2 with 8 CPU cores and 10 GPU cores and the same PCI 3.0 SSD speeds. Not the New 14 and 16 inch M2 Pro or M2 Max models which have better SOCs and faster PCI 4.0 SSDs speeds.
@@joesalyers WTF are you talking about? Apples M1 or M2 do not use any kind of PCIe of any version but Apple Fabric for communicating with the NAND chips directly. We have enough videos that show that the base models can't improve speed by interlacing access to multiple NAND chips because they have only one. Thats the problem. Looks like Apple Silicion has a quad interlacing. So it would need at least one TB storage for highest 6000mb speed (4x256gb chips).
@@llothar68 . You are repeating marketing garbage. Yes using 2x256gb chips will double the speed we all know that. Apple Fabric is a marketing term, it is actually PCB-PCI traces known as NVMe-oF not a physical slot. Apple holds NO patent for "Apple Fabric" its a marketing term for an open source standard. NVMExpress is the standard and Apple Fabric is a marketing term for NVMe-oF. Also if you looks at APFS and the underlying BSD tech of storage containers the lower M1/M2 chips have the same speed as a PCI gen3x4 drive and the larger M1 & 2 Pro/Max have PCI 4x4 speeds which when used with APFS will result in faster speeds due to a software container format similar to RAID. This is all done over NVMExpress controller. Apple Fabric is NVMe-oF but the controller is still NVMEexpress. How you get to the controller is irrelevant since it will be the same since it is all PCIe whether its a slot or traces on a PCB. Let me help you out this is. Directly from the NVME implementation manual. NVM Express (NVMe) is a specification defining how host software communicates with non-volatile memory across a PCI Express (PCIe) bus. It is the industry standard for PCIe solid state drives (SSDs) in all form factors (U.2, M.2, AIC, EDSFF). NVMExpress is the non-profit consortium managing and marketing NVMe technology. In addition to the NVMe base specification, the organization hosts other specifications: NVMe over Fabrics (NVMe-oF) for using NVMe commands over a networked fabric and NVMe Management Interface (NVMe-MI) to manage NVMe/PCIe SSDs in servers and storage systems. So now you know that Apple Fabric is just PCIe storage using NVMExpress right?
I will keep my current M1 base Mac Mini. If you are going to go M2 mini you are best served upgrading to the faster 512gb storage. Just ashamed that will cost you more if you don’t want it simply for the speed.
Damn, my 2015 iMac with its 512GB SSD is still a bit faster reading at 1800 MB/s is still faster than the base M2. Write speeds are "only" 800-1000 MB/s. No wonder it's still kicking some butt 8 years later.
I agree that the base model downgrade is lame, but I also find it funny that 1500MB/s is now considered “slow” after several decades of using computers with noisy drives 1/20th that speed. Us old nerds are eating good these days. 😂
untill 4 years ago a m2. ssd branded Samsung 970 Evo granted 1500Mbps read and 500Mbps write, about 80€ for 250GB, this in theory, under windows it never reached that speed due to lots of bottleneck, at that price you should say thank if you have 200Mbps W/R
Apple is in a weird mess atm with their M1-M2-series. They must artificially limit features and gimp performance which is very evident as these devices are reviewed by normal end users.
Nobody cared until tech RU-vidrs were looking for things to complain about. It doesn’t impact many users who are using the M2 Mac mini. Let’s be honest right now.
@@RealJoseph123 no of course. But for people who want to spec it up slightly to say 16gb memory for creative tasks/applications now have to deal with slower memory swap speeds… all to save Apple some pocket change. The 2 Nand chips on the M1 version shouldn’t have been downgraded to 1…
@@damir7097 of course it’s the budget/cheapest version. Just annoying that they’ve changed something to downgrade part of the performance from the previous generation
