M2 MacBook Air vs. The Rest 

Absolutely, just like with the iPhone X $1000 phone trend

Windows 11 also boosted the Windows laptop sales so Apple’s pricing is just wrong. They might regret it and make it cheaper on other stores like Amazon.

12th gen intel also put intel back in the game although we need an cpu architecture update..

gosh the apple fan shit is back again. look, your dear m2 can beat whatever Intel amd you want but most don't give an F about Mac

Lots of Ryzen U and H (without dgpu) laptops are coming this year. Please make a video like this in December. I'd really really appreciate it. 🙏

you guys are the real MVPs

Thanks buddy, you’ll find me here, struggling, whenever you need a shoulder to cry on.

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Yes Apple has some amazing engineers, im not going to say otherwise. However, i think part of why the M1 was so receptive and amazing, was that TSMC's 5nm was pretty much just allocated a huge margin of its production to apple for its first 2-3 years. The latest offerings from AMD laptops, 6nm, are starting to get there, however the true test will be Zen4 vs M1 / M2. Same Node (5nm, and only to some extent each company will have their own internal secret sauce), same year release, different companies. If Apple moves to 3nm at TSMC and secures another huge exclusivity agreement, then that again will keep Apples lead. Regardless of how good the architecture actually is.

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@@jesuschristwithwifi8181 Bruh XD

It is me right there 😂

I'm still using a 2011 MacBook Air for most of my browsing and daily low intensity tasks. The things age incredibly well.

I’m looking to get an m1 right now. It’s better imo

@@mowgli6345 as long as your os is on an ssd and you have at least 4 cores, then most computers age well.

Whats the price for refurbrished?

@@princecat91 US$850 but you can check your local online store. Stock just came back a few days ago too. They prepare those refurbs fast! As fast as repair turnaround times. Must have gone back to the same subcontractor factory for refitting.

Do you mean the AMD Advantage laptops?

AMD advantage laptops price to performance ratio are getting better compared to competition 😯

@@juusomaenpaa7236 not even the advantage edition just the ryzen 6000 APU's they seem to have excellent integrated graphics and are really powerful while being efficient and delivering almost m1 levels of performance

I agree, If I buy a ultrabook, I will consider to buy Ryzen 6800U APU because it has powerful multi core performance and gaming/igpu performance(2x more powerful than Intel XE iGPU). Intel sucks when you look at an ultrabook which hasn't discreate GPU.

I need thunderbolt on AMD

Thats perfect upselling from Apple 🤷🏻‍♂️. Nonetheless, i agree that the 14" MacBook Pro is the better deal 👍

I wish I could get that air for that cheap...

I got it on that same deal. As good as the Air is, the Pro 14 inch smokes it. Good buying while its on sale right now.

@Bzake with how the euro is going, that's about $1750 usd

ya the moment you get a highly upgraded config of the m2 air, the value element just melts away

That is not because they raised the price, but the general market demand increased it with inflation

Inflation sweetie

I just got the Pro M1 for 1,000 dlls tax included

Buy second hand.

The M1 is still a generation or more ahead of any other non-Apple offering. So, as long as it remains super competitive they won't lower the price. Shoulda got in on it.

most users just don't need all that extra horse power i think the m2 air with the 10 core gpu is plenty for most users.

Future proof? You do know that small business, corporations, educational institutions, nonprofits, and ngos across the entire planet keep their computing devices for 5 to 7 years.

14" Laptops 🤮

Not sure if future proofing is all that great honestly, given the usual use case for users who use it as a web browsing machine, and to read documents, take video calls and what not. They won't be utilizing much space, let alone the ram. M2 is in a weird spot I agree, but would it not make sense to end up just getting the lowest spec machine the next year anyways and still expect it to perform well? Buy used, or certified refurb from Apple and still save some money that way and get good performance.

@@kairefeare Yes, to a point, but if you are spending 1200 to read documents, web browse and make calls then jesus what are you doing!!!! We know that things will be more demanding in a year or two so it would be a good idea to get the extra RAMM, but then you are at 1400! to do those tasks you mentioned, 1400!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My base macstudio only cost me 1780, sure no screen etc etc, but come on!

Yes, we do. Lol

I also bought a second-hand MBA back in 2013 (a 2012 model). I'm still using it for work now!

I wish same thing can be said for iphone people..

Same here, just be careful that you dont get scammed

where did you buy it from?

i 100% agree. as dave said, if you can sacrifice not getting the latest and greatest, just go with the gigachad m1 air. i myself just purchased the base model m2 air, but was able to get it at around $1000 with educational discount, making it much more palatable. that being said, i also could have purchased the m1 air for around $800 with the same discount, which is a damn right steal.

Yep, I would've gladly paid more for 16GB/512GB. But doing that on top of the flat price increase for the base? Guess my XPS 13 will be kicking around a little longer.

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I really don't understand Apple's pricing strategy. When the M1 first came out, the pricing was unreasonably reasonable. They all were priced to sell, especially the $700 Mac Mini and the Air. Now with the M2, the pricing is just reasonable. You do get a lot of screen, but little RAM and storage for the price.

@@bobweiram6321 I think that might have to do with boosting adoption. If the Air hadn't come at the price it did back then, people wouldn't have adopted Arm based laptops with such open arms (pun intended). Now that people know it's good, it makes business sense for them to charge more?

If you look at his older videos, he used to make way shorter videos. But he is still very good with information/minute

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@@Slada1 yes absolutely agreed Adam!

@@thejaideeparora thanks for the warning

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I mean, compared to XPS 13 and MBA, the ZenBooks series are an absolute _steal._ They have an Intel 12th Gen model of ZenBook OLED model that starts at $649 in the US (walmart), and

Yeah and it isn't intel.

@@lars2894 they have to work on look and feel of some of the things . Many people think macbooks and xps have better everything because they're built more premium. But other than that Asus is killing it . I hope someone like Dell or HP makes a premium laptop that's all amd

@@vedaryan334 agreed! Asus is kinda killing it RN It's a shame that most big tech tubers don't look at the lesser premium asus models like the vivobook The vivobook 14X available in my country has a ryzen 7 with an RTX 3050 with a 90Hz oled panel. All that for 1000$. That laptop alone blows any MacBook Air out of the water in all segments (except battery life of course)

Agree on the looks. Every Zenbook I’ve seen just looks kinda cheap. Idk what about it, it just doesn’t feel as well crafted as a MacBook nor does it make you go wow at the gorgeous design of the XPS. It just looks cheap and generic.

what was the SSD usage? That defines the longevity of these unified memory machines.

I can't agree with you enough. Second hand M1 macbooks and mac minis are some of the best deals out there. If you don't want to deal with a sketchy used market, you can go for Apple refurbished too, which is slightly less of a good deal, but you get a guaranteed great product for a decent discount.

You can also literally still just buy one brand new from Apple

@@zeus1117 it was used normally for a year. It was a late 2020 model with applr care until next year. Battery health is still 100% and less than 30 cycles.

@@connorhd3201 yup, with the m1 having a price drop along with an edu discount, it's tough to beat.

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@@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX is jesus more power than M2 tho? 😂

@@aaron.nguyen Not under load

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no actually the acer swift x is a pretty even competitor with the m1 air. its just too much under shadowed idk why. it costs $999, has a Ryzen 7 5800U, RTX 3050 (40W), 16GB LPDDR4X 4246MHz, 512GB SSD, a brilliant 1080p display (100%srgb, 80% adobe and p3), a premium feeling magnesium-alloy chassis, a very good keyboard, an average trackpad. its value for money factor is a behemoth in my opinion but sadly it isnt advertised so well by reviewers. it was launched in may 2021. I have it and have compared it to my friend's mba and to be honest, even its speakers arent too much behind. in loudness theyre on par if not louder than the m1 mba but the mba wins in sound quality and bass.

What's the surprise there? They're giving it to Dave for the video it's not like he's buying them all and then doing the comparison. In that case Dave could go on and compare whatever device of whatever company he wanted to compare and the companies couldn't decide a thing.

@@gauntr I think the surprise is that it's not Dave choosing to put laptops in this (which he was already given as a review unit for prior). Instead it's the companies choosing what they want to "enter" into the competition.

@@gauntr I mean, Dave gave opportunity to company to give a shot the latest and the most product instead of relying on 2nd or 3rd hand information It's not like they were not aware with Apple

That's cause he's out there begging for free stuff. If he spent money on the laptops then he could test what ever he wants.

M series has 40% more transistors and is on a better node. Based on numbers vs 4700u/5700u/6800u I think it's pretty clear that apple's advantage was transistor and node count. Zen 4 will certainly close the gap, although not in single threaded.

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Any ideas where to get it for the best(or even good) price? Looking for one because of blackouts, but prices are extremely disappointing.

Yeah, by default most windows laptops will severely throttle the cpu and gpu when on mobile power. Maybe that’s different for these new ones, which I haven’t tried. At least MacOS has great battery life even in normal mode, and you can choose if to use low power mode.

@@Ferrichrome yeah; but the setting is inconveniently hidden, and can’t just be toggled like on iOS devices. But their default is full power all the time so long as they’re not on fire. So it seems maybe an unfair fight that they win anyway?

@@iZian yes, macOS would do even better if you enabled low power mode. On my MacBook Pro it goes down to a low refresh rate and maybe does some other things but I can’t tell. The battery is good even without that though, I just run it on regular mode all the time

@@iZianwdym hidden, isn’t it in the battery tab on the menu bar?

@@liamsz unless the latest update has added a toggle there: no The setting up until 3 weeks ago was only in the battery lane in preferences and can’t be toggled on demand or for a set time; it’s either off, or always on, or always on when battery. I don’t use it but I know from experience that when I tried it that the battery was lasting longer, at the expense of frame rate in a game I was playing.

I tested the newer 13.6” MBA in a store and I 100% prefer the prior wedge shaped Air design (the 2015 MBA is even thinner at the front than the later wedge shape and yet still has more ports than any new MBA). It’s easier to pickup and carry and it’s MUCH nicer to use, thanks to the low approach angle for your wrists that makes the machine far more comfortable. It’s classic change for the sake of change. Unjustified change. The wedge shape feels more comfortable and looks more advanced. No doubt Apple will return to the wedge shape one day. I believe MBP should also be wedge shaped, albeit a thicker relative wedge. And MBA needs more ports, not more USB-4, but SD Card and HDMI. There are many out there who love thin and light be still require the convenience of not needing dongles without needing great power, giant SSD or large RAM or 120 Hz display. The old MBA (2015/2017) was the best machine out there at the time because it had both wedge thinness and port practicality and a great keyboard and a not too big trackpad (I think trackpads are too big now).

Look at Just Josh’s review on that. Absolutely decimated by the MacBook Pro 14 (that actually has gone on sale to around $1800). Horrendous battery life and way worse thermals, it’s a joke for the $1930 RRP, no wonder they need to discount it for it to even sell.

@@User-cb4jm I don't own the Yoga, so that's good info!

@@User-cb4jm jesus christ a $1930 lenovo yoga??, get that shit outta here lmao

$1930 is definitely overpriced for those features, lenovo yoga series has to be the most overrated of the 2 in 1's. The best lenovo yogas are the thinkpad variants or the lenovo yoga 2 pro and lenovo yoga 3 pro. Those ones actually competed HARD with the macbook air in its era because of its 3200 x 1800 display and having almost identical dimensions to the MBA. As well as processing power, etc for about the same price and having a touchscreen. Currently I would say Lenovo yoga 9i 14" would be overshadowed massively by the acer spin 5 SP514-51N that will give you a 2560 x 1600, I7 1260P, 16GB LPDDR5, 1TB SSD and included stylus pen that docks inside of the device.

Honestly the webcam is not that big of a deal. It’s still better quality than the XPS tiny sensor they had to fit in that bezel, and now you can clip your phone on for a 4K quality webcam.

You can now use your iPhone as a webcam and get the best webcam there is

​@@User-cb4jm Yeah, I have been using Camo Studio and EpocCam, just pointing out the considerations.

@@tjadejoh Yeah, I have been using Camo Studio and EpocCam, just pointing out the considerations. It is a bit annoying to have a stand to set up or prop on your screen with the new MacOS Continuity Camera and it will drain your phone battery. I took a MagSafe compatible hockey puck charger and hot glued it into tripod so I can keep my phone powered while using it as a web cam easily, and it just snaps via magnets onto the mount easily.

@@sloanNYC cool. Nice solution. You felt like the battery drained faster with continuity camera rather than with those other options?

Which Lenovo model

Lenovo killed the 1.8mm key travel distance keyboard from all of their 2022 Thinkpad lineup… Lenovo killed its business brand completely. Fkn garbage products for 2022

No because windows OS is trash

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we pay premium on all apple products.. even the base iPhone is way too expensive here

I got my base model M1 Air for $850 brand new in April. Didn’t feel bad at all even when the new M2 model came out.

@@adityancs which ones did they start manufacturing here?

@@patricksantos4199 only if they sold it here at that price.

is the haptic trackpad good? Very interesting to see a Windows laptop using haptic technology that only Apple MacBooks have been using for years.

Does it have usb and hdmi ports

@@lawrencemolokwu7175 like most modern laptops, they've ditched USB A ports and HDMI in favor of USB C. It has 4 USB C ports that are all capable of charging, HDMI, or whatever else you can find a dongle for.

He has done the review of those laptops in the past

@@bhavyajain2427 No you didn't get it, nobody does it better than him. It's his style of doing explaining 5 laptops in less than 10 minutes.

it does have a bigger battery size to compensate, but power consumption is very close with light use

@@Dave2D While the OLED panel and the APU not being as efficient as the M2 make for the delta in power consumption, something to consider is the fact that OLED's power consumption is highly dependent on the content means that it can last a lot longer under certain conditions. Weird that Samsung didn’t get onboard with their Galaxy Book2 Pro 360s; they also have really good value for OLED equipped laptops.

@@victordanielhernandezarzola it will last longer if you watch dark background movies all day, but most people who are going to use this for productivity app/browser work, it’s going to have a white background on most of the time.

@@User-cb4jm To give you a good example: Programmers spend most of their day using dark themed editors; people editing in say Photoshop/Lightroom do lose due to the higher cpu/gpu usage but gain due to the lower consumption of the screen; and those are pretty common usage cases.

got mine but with the base screen option recently, battery life is good with the 1200p screen. The weight alone made me choose this over the MacBook Air. Agree, it's more than enough for me as a software engineer.

Would u suggest aero for decent amount of gaming tho?? I'm confused which one to get but want something for office use and gaming which must be light weight and super fast with not much off fan running

@@joelwilson5024 i dont use aero for gaming, but if you really want to play games on it, it will get hot, depending on your games, resolution and preset gaming you would at least get 45 fps

How long does the battery last? Can you recommend this laptop to buy now?

m2 replacement? you already have an m2 machine and is already looking for something better?

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@@arthurtiradentes My bad, edited.

I have one. There's no screen like it. No going back from OLED. It's certainly fast enough for everything I want to do and the battery seems to last the whole day if I'm not gaming.

Z13 sucks.

energy consumption and heat. intel chips in the xps chassis just run hotter than it should

Dell implements the worst Apple features

I use them at work. they're awful. they all have super hot Intel chips. and Dell basically doesn't test them before they send them out so they all break and overheat. I've had to RMA like four out of the 15 that I've deployed at work. and I get constant complaints about the fan noise and how hot the chassis is. and they crash. The XPS along with the Microsoft surfaces that I have are like 25% of my tickets.

ASUS tends to make great products in general.

yes. agree to this. I own several laptop from Asus and eventhough with regular update and file cleaning, my laptop still always slow and yes super laggy. I ended up sold them.

Weird none of my windows laptops ever do that. Do you happen to download a lot of stuff from shady websites? People who say their Windows machines get laggy over time either have no idea on how to maintain their PC or fill it with junk software which run on boot time and eat up resources in the background.

@@ufukpolat3480 no I’m a software dev. And a pc should not get significantly slower just by installing regular software. Sure, when you download loads of Trojans it’s no wonder your pc slows down. But I was using it mainly for MS office and just simple tasks made it super hot. 11th gen i3, sure not the best, but come on. M1 air was double the price but like 4x the user experience

@@SandwichMitGurke I'm fairly impartial towards Mac or Windows but you're truly comparing apples and oranges here.

@@SandwichMitGurke well you picked a terrible CPU to boot on a cheap yet overpriced machine.... what did you expect? mac users always compared a 2010 Avenger to a 2010 GTR.... entirely different brackets of products and yet somehow are surprised