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M855A1 vs Ar500 Armor 

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An AR500 steel armor company recently made the claim that steel armor is better than ceramic.
We put AR500 armor to the test versus M855A1 to find out.
ERRATA:
We made the mistake of calling M855 and M855A1 "AP rounds". Neither are specifically designated as AP, but have some AP like qualities. We spoke to this as people who frequently compete and shoot at steel targets, and while M855 and M855A1 are not officially AP rounds, they might as well be by our standards. So please note this correction - M855A1 is an "enhanced performance" round, and still considered ball ammunition by technical standards.

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@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 19 дней назад
We made the mistake of calling M855 and M855A1 "AP rounds". Neither are specifically designated as AP, but have some AP like qualities. We spoke to this as people who frequently compete and shoot at steel targets, and while M855 and M855A1 are not *officially* AP rounds, they might as well be by our standards. So please note this correction - M855A1 is an "enhanced performance" round, and still considered ball ammunition by technical standards.
@sirjacobthe8
@sirjacobthe8 19 дней назад
Maybe I missed it but what rating was that AR500 plate? I do definitely agree with the conclusions of this video. Thank you for helping share this information.
@SinistralRifleman
@SinistralRifleman 19 дней назад
“Uhm ahktually M855A1 isn’t AP” cries out the neckbeard as his AR500 plate is penetrated by it
@Sableagle
@Sableagle 19 дней назад
It's not armour-piercing. It just has enhanced performance against armour. I guess if you're living in a green suit and your idea of armour is Oddball and his friends rolling up in three Shermans, it's really not AP. It just has enhanced performance against armour that you could reasonably wear.
@tyleradkins7294
@tyleradkins7294 19 дней назад
What about using ammo from commercial side, something like the hornady 55 gr cx superformance?
@paulwheeler3723
@paulwheeler3723 19 дней назад
It is AP it’s just LAP. Meaning soft armor or pistol round safe armor. It is literally called Light Armor Piercing. You’re thinking of AP like we think in the movies and most Americans which would be black tip AP ammo or rounds with a tungsten bolt in the round
@lutherpayne9957
@lutherpayne9957 19 дней назад
Right bullet with the right barrel equals a bad day on the wrong side of a false belief.
@tomh.648
@tomh.648 19 дней назад
Man, that's an eloquently stated, profoundly accurate sentence.
@christianwilliams1690
@christianwilliams1690 18 дней назад
Awesome phrasing, neat imagery
@BrassBashers
@BrassBashers 16 дней назад
I used to have steel plates.. Cause sayings like "ceramics get hit multiple times they disintegrate!!!" Then, after years of shooting, I realized... If you're hit in the plate 5 times, you're hit everywhere and your armor is the LEAST of your worries!
@ForOne814
@ForOne814 19 дней назад
What's funny, is that old Soviet 6b5 DID stop M855A1 from a 20 inch barrel in Oxide's test. A mass-produced, mass-issued ceramic armor from 1985 performed better than this.
@nickl7488
@nickl7488 18 дней назад
also massed flogged on ebay, so a lot of russians only have emotional support armour left
@Skuggan84
@Skuggan84 18 дней назад
And my experience in russian steel is that another identical plate might be soft as butter. The quality is just so varied you can never tell if it's hard or soft.. it's a toss of the dice.
@ForOne814
@ForOne814 18 дней назад
​@@Skuggan84 one more point in favor of ceramic then?
@Skuggan84
@Skuggan84 18 дней назад
@@ForOne814 if made in russia. Yes. If compared to russian steel plates.
@ForOne814
@ForOne814 18 дней назад
​@@Skuggan84 if compared to the plate in the video as well, lol.
@TheOz91
@TheOz91 19 дней назад
Hot take: an AR with a 20" barrel is the best looking
@austinsmothers6581
@austinsmothers6581 19 дней назад
The truth is the m16 had Drip.
@trapmouth
@trapmouth 19 дней назад
Not to poo poo the beautiful 20” but Imo, the shorter the better looking. Performance aside obviously.
@scottanddebranelson8419
@scottanddebranelson8419 19 дней назад
i think it looks scarier. so that's a plus in my book. jk but i'm sure it does to idiots like that rep who said it was heavy like a box or some such lol.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 19 дней назад
Bicth to carry Prefer 16 inch
@scottanddebranelson8419
@scottanddebranelson8419 19 дней назад
@@tomhenry897 if you think the rifle is bad try runnin and gunnin with a saw. it sure was fun though.
@matteoorlandi856
@matteoorlandi856 19 дней назад
in today's episode of "karl makes people upsetti" karl will upsetti all the steel lords of metal superiority.
@jamesbrisendine
@jamesbrisendine 19 дней назад
Yeah, all 3 of them.
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 19 дней назад
Karl makes people upsetti spaghetti more often than not… with a side of Cheddar Bay biscuits
@kellyalger2394
@kellyalger2394 18 дней назад
Only reason I use em is it's what I could afford, otherwise, ceramic all day. Lighter and better
@Jason-fm4my
@Jason-fm4my 18 дней назад
That's three potential album covers in one sentence.😂
@fen3311
@fen3311 16 дней назад
Well the only reason people would be upset is 'cos they didn't prove jack or shit, using an III plate compared to a ceramic designed, specifically, to defeat steel penetrators.
@bigghoss762
@bigghoss762 18 дней назад
*Starts shopping internet for M855A1 and an A4 upper*
@aquablaster86
@aquablaster86 16 дней назад
Be prepared to pay at least $2.50 per round.
@WarPigArmory
@WarPigArmory 9 дней назад
you can get some at War Pig Armory!
@michaelhill6451
@michaelhill6451 19 дней назад
3:28 Now you can use the left over water for a mud test.
@tastychunks
@tastychunks 19 дней назад
Babe wake up, new InRange armor test just dropped
@thatguysky123
@thatguysky123 19 дней назад
How many different videos are you going to comment this on?
@tastychunks
@tastychunks 19 дней назад
@@thatguysky123 Yes.
@deusvult7947
@deusvult7947 18 дней назад
Your girl is busy right now. Ill send her over when I'm done.
@tastychunks
@tastychunks 18 дней назад
@@deusvult7947 Thanks bro you're a real one
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw 19 дней назад
Wish you described the level of armor. Was this just level 3? If so, it makes sense.
@vertigo4236
@vertigo4236 16 дней назад
It's AR500 That are the specs, AR500 is a type of steel alloy and the name of the company is AR500 Armor. You can look them up in this thing called internet.
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw 16 дней назад
@vertigo4236 You do realize they have different levels right? LOL. Yikes dude.
@crossfox1991
@crossfox1991 16 дней назад
Probably 3
@MrMagnaniman
@MrMagnaniman 15 дней назад
I'd guess 3A. Kind of annoying they don't tell us. If their ceramic plate was level 4 and this steel plate was 3A, then they haven't really demonstrated anything.
@99John99
@99John99 14 дней назад
@vertigo4236 "AR500 is a type of high-carbon steel alloy that's known for its hardness and durability. The "AR" stands for "Abrasion Resistant" and the "500" refers to its Brinell Hardness Number (BHN), which is a measure of its hardness and ability to resist deformation under high pressure."
@superclutchify
@superclutchify 19 дней назад
Beside all the tongue and cheek from both sides, lots of context to consider: - Expiration date of ceramic/steel plates - durability of ceramic/steel plates, in regards to getting dropped/banged on while wearing - rating of the plates, lots of ceramic and steel plates are made to an exact standard needed to be met. - If your worried about M855-A1, buy a plate rated for it. Wear armor. Getting shot sucks more than having to work out to carry said protective armor.
@Stand_watie
@Stand_watie 19 дней назад
they should have tested a level 4 steel plate since the ceramic was also level 4 or maybe I'm wrong i dunno.
@hailexiao2770
@hailexiao2770 19 дней назад
​@@Stand_watie Do Level 4 steel plates even exist?
@skyhop
@skyhop 18 дней назад
@@Stand_watie Level 4 steel plates would be about 20 pounds per plate. You aren't realistically wearing that, and it's going to ruin almost any carrier out there.
@Klovaneer
@Klovaneer 18 дней назад
If you are worried about ceramic ruggedness there's titanium that's the best of both worlds. Expensive for military, might be okay for an individual.
@skyhop
@skyhop 18 дней назад
@@Klovaneer That might work in videogames, but that's not how it works in real life. Titanium armor is more of a light flak vest rather than proper rifle rated armor, until you're dealing with something almost as ridiculous as steel.
@mclethin
@mclethin 19 дней назад
Some of my favorite InRange content
@craighansen7594
@craighansen7594 17 дней назад
I remember an old Eastwood movie where he has a rough piece of train boiler plate slung across his chest. Looked pretty heavy!
@kenofken9458
@kenofken9458 17 дней назад
There was an old west gunfighter and outlaw called "Deacon" Jim Miller who regularly wore such a thing under his frock coat.
@1970bosshemi
@1970bosshemi 17 дней назад
Great video. Short sweet and to the point!
@fen3311
@fen3311 16 дней назад
But ultimately, factually inconsistent so. Take it as a meme rather than a real world application.
@aelsi1337
@aelsi1337 17 дней назад
LOVE the keffiyeh!!! ♥🍉
@bikerbobcat
@bikerbobcat 7 дней назад
Never heard of this M855A1 so this is a cool thing to learn.
@pilotmiami1
@pilotmiami1 16 дней назад
Bravo.thenks
@alanfender123
@alanfender123 19 дней назад
isn't shooting steel with steel ammo at 15 yards dangerous...?
@SinistralRifleman
@SinistralRifleman 19 дней назад
Not when it punches right through 😂
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 19 дней назад
yes, don't do that.
@glockparaastra
@glockparaastra 19 дней назад
I have a shoulder wound that agrees! Be careful!
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 19 дней назад
Kinda:):)
@andycraig6905
@andycraig6905 19 дней назад
​@@InrangeTv damn so steel armor has thorns enchantment?
@BreakChannelZero
@BreakChannelZero 19 дней назад
It can be said that the difference between M855 and M855A1 for overall penetration against harder material is quite impressive.
@carpentb17
@carpentb17 19 дней назад
Very interesting
@Moredread25
@Moredread25 18 дней назад
I gotta go back and watch that old video.
@natemccord1860
@natemccord1860 18 дней назад
Should also try hitting the plate with 55gr out of that 20in barrel. I was able to punch through 3/8 ar500 resting against some wood with 55gr out of a 20in barrel at about 25 yards
@williamED15
@williamED15 19 дней назад
Oh karl. Not destroying a meme while creating a new one at 3:07
@DisappointedSon0813
@DisappointedSon0813 5 дней назад
Since you didn’t explain what level this steel plate was, I’d call this test: invalid.
@pickinthatbanjo
@pickinthatbanjo 3 дня назад
Would have been nice to know how thick that plate was as well
@SNOUPS4
@SNOUPS4 10 дней назад
I like it when SinisterRifleman laughs in the videos, once in ten years; feels like a blessing and it's welcome
@greglincir9037
@greglincir9037 18 дней назад
Thanks for the video. Is this their AR500 (level 3) steel plate or their AR650 (level 3+) steel plate? I would love to see a follow-up video testing both the level 3 and 3+ plates, using different barrel lengths (14.5”, 16”, 20”).
@gunswnc
@gunswnc 19 дней назад
it would be great to see a video with various bbl lengths. How much barrel does it take to punch thru armor?
@theblindsniper9130
@theblindsniper9130 19 дней назад
We really have entered the point in time where the caliber argument is dead, as bullet type and selection matters far more than the cartridge you are using. The M855A1 is a fantastic example of what a 5.56 can really do, against both hard and soft targets. Expensive, but very worth it. Many people preach 308 superiority, but if I have plates, I'll take getting hit by an M80 FMJ over an M855A1.
@xc8487
@xc8487 19 дней назад
Just imagine a .308 sabot penetrator
@kamatong
@kamatong 10 дней назад
I have seen videos of m855a1 stopping on ar500 steel with a 16 inch barrel, honestly crazy that a few extra inches is really making this much of a difference.
@eargesplitten9876
@eargesplitten9876 19 дней назад
Karl Bad Man. Finally beat that other guy to it.
@trofchik9488
@trofchik9488 19 дней назад
0:34 A while back when you put 6B13 plate into 6B45 and wondered why it was so damn heavy :D Note that, 6B13's front plate is rated at Class 4 ~ Lvl 3 NIJ usually.
@Uberragen21
@Uberragen21 17 дней назад
I'm curious about this same test against AR550 and AR600 plates.
@greylocke100
@greylocke100 19 дней назад
I wonder how the A1 behaves out of a 14.5 M4 barrel. Will it still penetrate the AR500?
@calebdean2440
@calebdean2440 19 дней назад
I doubt it. Velocity makes a huge difference. If you look on the internet you can find testing from the 50s/60s where they were shooting armor plate off an M3 half track and it stopped 30-06 AP and 8mm AP but regular old 22-250 fmj punched straight through with its much higher velocity than the other 2.
@wurfyy
@wurfyy 19 дней назад
@@calebdean2440 On the other hand, the A1 is designed to be fired out of a 14.5" barrel, and gets the vast majority of its velocity within that amount of barrel, unlike the M855 which was made for 20" barrels.
@humanbass
@humanbass 15 дней назад
​@@wurfyyit still loses some performance. The original powerpoint of the A1 already showed that some barriers could only be pierced with a 20" barrel. But yeah, only testing can tell
@wurfyy
@wurfyy 15 дней назад
@@humanbass Of course it loses some performance. And if you really try, you can tailor a barrier that requires a 20" barrel in order for the bullet to penetrate. The point, though, is that the M855A1 is designed to lose a lot less performance than the M855 when fired out of a short barrel.
@WarPigArmory
@WarPigArmory 9 дней назад
Watch buffman range's latest video on it
@ergofoxxxy
@ergofoxxxy 19 дней назад
do one with the anti spall sleeve and one where you shoot it at a 45 deg angle
@BassJunkie200
@BassJunkie200 19 дней назад
M193 next!
@KurtAustin2448
@KurtAustin2448 19 дней назад
Why? It's not going to do better than normal green tip.
@lamontcranston6999
@lamontcranston6999 19 дней назад
193 out of 20” will defeat ar500. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ibL50XtsxBM.htmlsi=VE6jx-3IJJIat4md
@9770G
@9770G 19 дней назад
@@KurtAustin2448cuz why not? Why not show what m193 would do?…
@MannElite
@MannElite 19 дней назад
@@KurtAustin2448 M193 out of a 20" upper will punch through those steel plates, its better at defeating steel armor than M855 because of the increased velocity.
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 19 дней назад
Point is??
@awesomepawn2
@awesomepawn2 18 дней назад
i would have never in a million years expected this result holy hell i had no idea those lil plinkers i was playing with downrange had that kind of penetration.
@X4Alpha4X
@X4Alpha4X 17 дней назад
the exposed steel tip on A1 doesnt deform as easily as copper and lead so when it hits a hard but brittle steel plate it basically just breaks a small hole to pass thru
@edbangor9163
@edbangor9163 12 дней назад
Level IV ceramic plates rated for multiple hits from M2AP (actual armor piercing ammo) is only marginally more expensive than steel. I don't know why people buy steel at all.
@lukejolley8354
@lukejolley8354 18 дней назад
Whaat?? I’ve watched all the InRange armour videos and this comes as a surprise! More on this kinda stuff would be awesome, thanks!
@fen3311
@fen3311 16 дней назад
Why is this a surprise? They tested armour that wasn't rated for anything with steel in it.
@aquablaster86
@aquablaster86 16 дней назад
Wish you would have brought out a 16" to test after the 20" went thru! Maybe next time.
@jg-ub4ek
@jg-ub4ek 19 дней назад
Neat!
@scott2228
@scott2228 17 дней назад
I’d be interested to know the change in velocity from 20” to 18” Barrel. And if that reduction is enough to prevent the M855A1 from passing through.
@dualsportrider3221
@dualsportrider3221 18 дней назад
Mayb it needed more bed liner!
@dorianhinkle5595
@dorianhinkle5595 17 дней назад
With regards to the meme: it's wild how people who grew up during the console wars would evolve into other kinds of format/material wars now.
@JasonBelliveau
@JasonBelliveau 19 дней назад
so at what length barrel does the M855A1 stop going through?
@bobjones5674
@bobjones5674 19 дней назад
Would be curious to see at what angle the ar500 eventually deflected the m855a1. I remember watching a video awhile ago (I think it was demoranch lol) where he tested shooting .308 ap at an ar500 plate set at either 25 or 30 degrees, and it deflected the bullet with no penetration.
@ferretapocalypse
@ferretapocalypse 18 дней назад
Well fortunately there won’t be any 855a1 around for long since there suiting to the .277 unless they make a .277A1
@kenofken9458
@kenofken9458 17 дней назад
5.56 is going to remain in use with the military for a long time yet. As far as the new Sig round is concerned, a Level III plate will be about the same as a fishnet shirt when it comes to stopping that beast.
@juanthelawnmowerthief1641
@juanthelawnmowerthief1641 18 дней назад
XM193 out of a 20 inch barrel will go through AR500 plates. Also 52 grain GMX will makes nice holes as well.
@saintsinningsword
@saintsinningsword 4 дня назад
Who ever said Steel is better than Ceramic? AR500 Official Company? How High Were They? I'm cheap and own Spartan AR550 steel and even I know I wouldn't rely on it without extra coating, a kevlar spall capture sleeve, trauma pad and a prayer.
@eatsleepdrift4494
@eatsleepdrift4494 19 дней назад
level 3 plates aint gonna stop the 44pen 55a1
@markr9730
@markr9730 18 дней назад
I'd choose ceramic every time, but I'm curious as to the thickness of the steel you used.
@ACamaroGuy
@ACamaroGuy 15 дней назад
I wish AR500 had to recall/refund their plates they've sold within the last 20 years. At least give a company credit for new plates that actually work as labeled. Who's going to start the lawsuit?
@Just_Some_Person
@Just_Some_Person 19 дней назад
I used to have some of this armor in my carrier, but the spalling concern was enough for me to take it out. Ceramic all the way!
@ZennZennster
@ZennZennster 19 дней назад
*frag
@Sableagle
@Sableagle 19 дней назад
@@ZennZennster I guess a person could be concerned about either. Getting splash fragments up under your chin and into the medial sides of your upper arms would suck, but getting pieces of plate between your ribs because a 1 oz slug spanked it would suck too.
@KeterMalkuth
@KeterMalkuth 18 дней назад
@@Sableagle Ceramic generally crumbles upon impact, and with how the backing layer of PE reacts, it'll catch almost anything that could try to follow a bullet aside from fine particulate. All of that said, slugs don't penetrate any halfway decent ceramic armor in the first place, at least not without specialized AP ammo.
@TheIamfrustrated
@TheIamfrustrated 19 дней назад
Question, what rating was the steel armor just out of curiosity
@mangrumpyold1871
@mangrumpyold1871 18 дней назад
2 questions 1) How would that plate hold up against M193? 2) How would UHMWPE plate compare to the steel and ceramic?
@paul_reislaufer
@paul_reislaufer 5 дней назад
M193 penetrates steel armor at like 30ish yards.
@danbradley6553
@danbradley6553 7 дней назад
The OD Green KP-15 Lower Receiver wears the BRN 601 upper (brownells Retro repro of Colt 601 from early Vietnam) like a match made in Heaven
@Budget_Prepper
@Budget_Prepper 18 дней назад
The US Army uses 14 inch barrels now. 16 inches is the most common civilian length. How do those rounds perform at those lengths?
@vernonarmstrong3738
@vernonarmstrong3738 14 дней назад
I have a side plate that stopped 855A1 from 10 yards out of a 16" barrel. Cratered it really bad, very clear that a 20" would have gone through.
@rg8521
@rg8521 18 дней назад
should have included m193 in the experiment
@lexedmonds9075
@lexedmonds9075 18 дней назад
Not that it matters in literally any way, but just out of curiosity, who manufactured your green tip? And more importantly: _Where can I get a pair of Karl's awesome glasses?_
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 18 дней назад
The standard M855 in this video was Lake City. The glasses came from Amazon, tbh.
@MrUnl33t
@MrUnl33t 19 дней назад
Was it their 3 or 3+ level? Because as far as I remember 3+ stops 55a1
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw 19 дней назад
That's what I'm wondering. I use 3+ lightweight plates myself.
@adamthompson626
@adamthompson626 18 дней назад
wondering same thing.
@randomm9683
@randomm9683 18 дней назад
3+ lightweight is not rated for 855a1 and has a v 50 rating for all 5.56 of 3100fps. I have a set of plates advanced swimmers cut 3+ lightweight from about 8 years ago
@vortex2598
@vortex2598 18 дней назад
I also was wondering. Pretty sure this isn't the 3+
@billgutierrez9573
@billgutierrez9573 18 дней назад
The meme says ar500 is better than ceramic. Ceramic is level 4.
@jondavidmcnabb
@jondavidmcnabb 19 дней назад
I think a better test is two uppers 16" and 20" and a chronograph. The velocity difference might be interesting.
@traillesstravelled7901
@traillesstravelled7901 19 дней назад
Military Arms Channel did a velocity, accuracy and ballistic gel test . Gel was awesome, everything else was disappointing.
@traillesstravelled7901
@traillesstravelled7901 19 дней назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K1qPBrhmJHI.htmlsi=zQs297KV_YY88dRs
@acester86
@acester86 14 дней назад
Jesus that 855a1 is espensive
@waterboy330
@waterboy330 12 дней назад
Should have tried 55 grain out of the 20" barrel. Sometimes that does punch through.
@adamthompson626
@adamthompson626 18 дней назад
Level 3 or 3+? This matters with the ar500 brand
@Mitsurugi2424
@Mitsurugi2424 19 дней назад
What lvl is the plate?
@aidangartner8786
@aidangartner8786 19 дней назад
Ok, but what about two Ar500 plates?
@MPotato888
@MPotato888 6 дней назад
Try it against the AR600 plates with the heavy spall liner.
@FactoryFugitive
@FactoryFugitive 13 дней назад
I've had M193 out of a 20 inch get through coated AR500 honestly. It would be a sad state of affairs if M855A1, out of a 20 inch didn't get through. Also M855A1 did not get through even My SKARR ceramic plates (which are great budget option for ceramic plates)
@Fred-rv2tu
@Fred-rv2tu 19 дней назад
Steal armor is better than no armor. But there’s a reason expensive ceramic exists….
@partyrocket859
@partyrocket859 19 дней назад
Good Ceramic armor can be bought for only slightly more than steel. If someone already fell for it and bought steel, it's better than nothing. But they should be trading up ASAP.
@patrickbateman312
@patrickbateman312 18 дней назад
Heartily disagree. Going slick is better than steel.
@ribtips305
@ribtips305 19 дней назад
Subbed yesterday and today I’m getting good fashion advice… I knew I made a good choice.
@jimmieburleigh9549
@jimmieburleigh9549 19 дней назад
Test the 855 traditional penitrator with steel then lead to the reverse stuff the marines use or did used with lead then steel
@madshad3351
@madshad3351 19 дней назад
What level plate was that?
@axmajpayne
@axmajpayne 19 дней назад
Level 3, because a level 4 steel plate would be absurdly heavy.
@madshad3351
@madshad3351 19 дней назад
@@axmajpayne Ty👊
@eargesplitten9876
@eargesplitten9876 19 дней назад
@@madshad3351 For reference the level 3 steel plates are already about 7-10lb IIRC, depending on the size. That's as much as a cheap level 4 ceramic plate, just thinner. Also, IIRC the NIJ certifications require multiple hit with most ammo even for ceramic, although I think for the blacktip .30-06 at .300 Win Mag velocity it's just one hit.
@madshad3351
@madshad3351 19 дней назад
@@eargesplitten9876 thank you. 👊
@Motoguzzi2231
@Motoguzzi2231 17 дней назад
Interesting, in the "worst case" scenario it fails the latest 855A1 from a 20" barrel, how would it hold up to the much more common 16" AR barrel? Either way it is affordable protection against many of the more common threats, and is better than nothing!
@kenofken9458
@kenofken9458 17 дней назад
Straight Level III is dicey against any 5.56. It might stop it IF they have a mild enough round, a short enough barrel, a long enough distance etc. Given that 5.56 is the platform of choice in this country, it seems like a poor gamble to me. Level III is very good against 7.62 and that's still in use, but Level III would have been a much better go-to in 1960 than it is today.
@HorstMichel-mh7gv
@HorstMichel-mh7gv 19 дней назад
As the M855A1 go though the chap-o-type AR500 plate what do an 995, know it's hard to find. But, yeah kind wanna see the test.
@fen3311
@fen3311 16 дней назад
Kinda pointless since a 995 will glide right through it. It can pen IV ceramics, let alone III steel.
@WarPigArmory
@WarPigArmory 9 дней назад
You can get this m855a1 at War Pig Armory!
@thorsmith59
@thorsmith59 18 дней назад
What level was the plate? 3 or 4? Makes a big difference!
@angusmotorsports4715
@angusmotorsports4715 18 дней назад
Now try using a conventional bullet out of a 270 Weatherby
@coleraymond4002
@coleraymond4002 7 дней назад
M855a1 is the vibe check of all rounds
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m 19 дней назад
Is this level 3 or 3+ because there is quite a significant difference in protection levels between the two from the company “AR500”. Their 3+ is rated to stop black tip rounds up to 2700 fps
@adamthompson626
@adamthompson626 18 дней назад
Want to know the same thing. If you are going to test something at least describe exactly what you are testing. I am assuming because he said ar500 by ar500 its just standard lvl 3 which isnt even rated for m855.
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m 18 дней назад
@@adamthompson626 my guess is it’s regular level 3 because the green tip even managed to dent the backside which it should not be able to do with any 3+ armor even from a 20”
@KeterMalkuth
@KeterMalkuth 18 дней назад
​@@user-oy9zy4ds9m Where is it listed that their 3+ plates can stop M2 AP at 2700 FPS? If it stopped that, it could easily stop M855A1, but their plates don't have that listed as a special threat.
@kenofken9458
@kenofken9458 18 дней назад
III+ is not even a real NIJ rating. It's an overbuilt NIJ Level III which tends to keep out the 5.56 threats that regular III does not do reliably. It also pushes the weight up to 8 pounds a plate and beyond.
@user-oy9zy4ds9m
@user-oy9zy4ds9m 18 дней назад
@@KeterMalkuth midway USA has them for sale description says rated for m61 at 2800 fps. M61 is black tip 7.62x51 . However m855a1 may still penetrate because of its higher velocity, and smaller diameter.
@MrAdamwashere
@MrAdamwashere 18 дней назад
Karl please tell me where I can get those glasses
@MetalAsFork
@MetalAsFork 17 дней назад
I like your scarf 🤠
@user60521123
@user60521123 17 дней назад
That was fast!
@cannonlove2
@cannonlove2 19 дней назад
The other test on ceramic was with a shorter barrel not that I doubt ceramic is better but wish it was the same test for science
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 19 дней назад
No, it wasn't. I used my 20" NRA High Power A2.
@DanielFrotscher
@DanielFrotscher 18 дней назад
Years ago, when I had only shot my grandad's H&R 999, a friend invited me to shoot his Marlin lever action carbine in .44 Mag. He took me through all the necessary safety instructions and then fired first. Our target was a gallon milk jug filled with water. He nicked the sides but did no significant damage. Three rounds. Reload and now my turn. I took aim, let out half a breath and BOOM! The milk jug flew a part. I had split the jug in two, including the body and handle. My friend was definitely irritated because he immediately announced game over. I KNOW this was beginner's luck but I still chuckle to this day about this match up. Thank you for the entertaining and informative content.CHEERS!
@codypaul4181
@codypaul4181 11 дней назад
I think the point of the memes is that I’d rather go into a gunfight with armor that can take more than one round than a one and done plate
@Johnny-jr2lq
@Johnny-jr2lq 16 дней назад
Why didn’t you try m193 through that 20” tube. I have been told real m193 will poke a clean hole In body armor apparently the 55 grain ball going around 3000 fps defeats steel armor body armor as well.
@stevet7522
@stevet7522 16 дней назад
How would this armor stand up to more common 55 grain fmj and 62 grain 855?
@ericunderdown1555
@ericunderdown1555 19 дней назад
I wonder how much range effects these rounds. it would make sense that at 15 yards these rounds would penetrate, but how far till they dont? 500 yards? id love to get my hands on some and see!
@Sableagle
@Sableagle 19 дней назад
Not far. I think a 20" barrel is equivalent to a 10" barrel 60 yards closer, so if it won't go through when shot from a 10" at 1 yard it won't go through when shot from a 20" at 61 yards. Air resistance being proportional to the square of the velocity can be a real bitch, huh? If you want this effect at range, you might have to cook up something special like a 111 grain 5.56 x 51 mm with 1 km/s at the muzzle, or go for the meme value with 6.66 x 66.6 mm and a 666 mm barrel length, 154 gr at 3281 fps, and scare the heck out of the Catholics and Evangelicals. That second one'd be 12% more kick and 26% more energy than a .30-06, by the way.
@the1andonlySherlock
@the1andonlySherlock 19 дней назад
The velocity bleeds off very quickly, I wouldn't be surprised if it failed to penetrate at even 100 yards, and surely by 200 yards it would fail to penetrate.
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 19 дней назад
Buy karl a plate and request
@thelastminuteman7513
@thelastminuteman7513 13 дней назад
I'd like to see what M855A1 does from a 14.5" barrel or less as to my knowledge it was designed to get 20" performance from a short barrel.
@brandonlorance8584
@brandonlorance8584 17 дней назад
That meme really struck a nerve lol
@wodinloki9504
@wodinloki9504 4 дня назад
M855A1 is rougher on barrels I have been told. A1 is more accurate and better all around.
@DrFredism
@DrFredism 16 дней назад
I miss this type of content
@InrangeTv
@InrangeTv 16 дней назад
Well here it is! 😀
@BillyONeal
@BillyONeal 11 дней назад
Which video is the one from 2018 which had the ceramic testing?
@xman577
@xman577 13 дней назад
Ouch, that’s some nasty ammo. The military is using right now.
@WarPigArmory
@WarPigArmory 9 дней назад
Yup, civilians can get it too. War Pig Armory
@kevinstarlike
@kevinstarlike 19 дней назад
Maybe I don't know about the topic and "AR500" itself already gives someone more educated enough information, but I missed hearing what armor class the steel and ceramic plates were (or at least their thickness) To me as a common idiot it was not clear if these two plate are even supposed to have the same level of protection on paper
@FurnishedIgloo
@FurnishedIgloo 18 дней назад
it didn't matter - AR500 implied steel was better than ceramic *period*
@X4Alpha4X
@X4Alpha4X 17 дней назад
@@FurnishedIgloo most people would say a corvette is better than a corolla, but how do they compare when driving the same speed on town roads?
@_Scipio__Africanus_
@_Scipio__Africanus_ 18 дней назад
Ive been scrounging for m855a1 ammo and havent found anything. Just want a clip of the stuff for collection
@Justin-rq6kf
@Justin-rq6kf 18 дней назад
Hi Scipio
@_Scipio__Africanus_
@_Scipio__Africanus_ 18 дней назад
@@Justin-rq6kf sah dude
@Justin-rq6kf
@Justin-rq6kf 18 дней назад
@@_Scipio__Africanus_ You need a 20" barrel for your VHS, it's zased.
@_Scipio__Africanus_
@_Scipio__Africanus_ 17 дней назад
@@Justin-rq6kf idk I feel the 16in is perfect. Guns super compact with it
@AppliedGats
@AppliedGats 18 дней назад
Crazy that even 855 is borderline. Ceramic is clearly the way to go especially on weight, I’d be interested in a steel backed ceramic to improve multi hit performance.
@X4Alpha4X
@X4Alpha4X 17 дней назад
steel or titanium backers on ceramic plates dont do anything to improve multi hit capabilities, they're there to limit back face deformation.
@rahealharisshabbir
@rahealharisshabbir 19 дней назад
You guys should've gotten some M993
@Juronumo
@Juronumo 18 дней назад
Id be interested to see what it does against a2 ar500
@smitty3624
@smitty3624 18 дней назад
Interesting video. Ironic, cause I’ll never own either, because one’s too expensive and the other because it’s too cheap.
@accordsamurai
@accordsamurai 12 дней назад
So wait my level four plates will let that pass??
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