Ma Lin - the god of table tennis (part 3 - flying forehand flick) 

Wang hao be like hold my beer 🍺

@@tabletennisgoosebumps1104 The BEST Reverse Penholder Backhand ever! No one can do it better and more effortless. Probably the most difficult shot to master in Table Tennis today.

I agree with almost everything, except the part where you mention that it's impossible to do using Shakehand Grip, I'm Shakehand and I do (logically with less power and accuracy than Ma lin), what I mean here is that a Shakehand player can do this technique, it's not impossible.

@@kioka2 Maybe I would better say that it should not somewhat difficult but not impossible, but due to the lack of flexibility to the wrist by the shakehand grip. The loose movement and the variety of range would be greatly hampered. Just like the Strawberry Flicks. Perhaps I should reword it a wee bit better. Thank You!

@@canicetang8837 Really, with the lack of flexibility of the wrist the limitations are many, so in my case I use it only after serving with little rotation and my opponent returns at a considerable height, I believe that at a professional level it will be better to use the backhand flick, stay safe man :)

@@kioka2 I am a penholder just like Xu Xin and Ma Lin, but definitely not even 1 percent at their level hahaha! Anyhow, both the shakehand and the penholder grips have both their good points and bad. Penholders are more devastating with their forehand and their much wider range of movement with the wrist. Simply put, most shakehand grip players must hold their paddle only with a few fingers to have the similar flexibility of the wrist on their serves. Otherwise, that snap of the wrist motion to direct the paddle for the initial contact with the ball can NEVER happen. Just saying. Backhand flicks are a little bit safer, but incorporate both the forehand and backhand flicks into your arsenal will give so many layers of surprise for your opponents. It is always good to keep them guessing. Deception is really an important key here.

@@canicetang8837 I think the penholder style is very beautiful to see playing, even more penholder vs penholder (Ryu vs Ma lin or Ryu vs Kaii Yoshida)! About the Shakehand style, unfortunately the lack of flexibility in the wrist is great compared to Penholder :/ And I agree, having these two techniques in your arsenal is devastating for the opponent.

As with all power generation of the modern chinese technique power comes from the leg to a straight arm to wrist. The jump is a result the the leg power to generate the force. Not using his hips waist back much.

That is because the limitation of your wrist. You can tried yourself, if you don't jump, you may not be able to do the full stroke of forhand flick.

@@xq3169 well put.

The leg is where the power comes from, you need to jump to create that much power.

@@Microwaved_Lego No, the power of forhand flick came from the wrist.

Shakehand players use the forehand flick too, but it's more natural for the penhold grip because in your neutral arm position, your blade is pointed down already, so you have more room to accelerate your arm upwards for the flick.

Penholder grip is extremely natural when it comes to attacking because of the angle at 90 degrees compared to parallel with the Shakehand grip. As well, the range of your wrist are extremely flexible to create side to side motions. This will generate extra deceptive spins on your shot, particularly with the sidespins. As well, most penholders do not need to flip the paddle constantly on the backhand side if they need to use their forehand rubber to attack. This fraction of a second gain helps the penholders to have a bit more time for their preparation of the shot, which is extremely crucial in table tennis to buy yourself more time. Therefore, when it comes to attacking on the forehand side. Penholder can use for more power than Shakehand grip. Then again, the Shakehand is extremely balanced on BOTH the forehand and backhand respectively. Also being parallel to the table on the grip position greatly helps with the defensive positioning. Also before the invention of the Reverse Penhold Backhand (RPB) in the 2000s. Penholders were known to use short pips on their backhand to short slice and chop. While using the fast punch push blocks to compensate for the attacks on their weak backhand side. Generally, most penholders are naturally weak on the backhand. Some have often stepped out of their positions by using their forehands to compensate for their all or nothing attack forehand loop, but leaving a lot of their side of the table wide open for the reply but their opponents. If they manage to return the shot with any decent quality, even with a simple block by returning the ball with the heavy loops created by the penholders, then it would easily be game over. Just like majority of the correct guesses by Ma's opponents able to return his "Flying Forehand Flips". RPB is an extremely difficult shot to master, because it calls for a different grip on the paddle (front and back fingers) at the beginning phase of the shot. Your paddle angle must be varied according to the height being hit after the bounce of the ball on your side of the table. Be sure to tuck your elbow in with your wrist like a spring, loaded at the lock position. Then unleash the shot by uncoil and reversed the motion with a short follow-through. Depends on the rally itself, if the RPB is not needed, then you must changed your penhold grip back. This is in a way similar a shakehand grip player only have two fingers on the paddle to have the flexibility of their wrist like the penholder with their serve before fully holding back with their normal grip styles. But the execution of the RPB is much more detailed. This is why even a Penholder God like Xu Xin at times have poor RPB in many tournaments as a result.

Hi 👋 have a 👍great Sunday.