Mac Studio M2 Ultra Review - It DESTROYS my MacBook Pro! 🔥 

I agree, had they limited the new M2 ultra to be only attainable through specing the Mac pro instead of the Studio it mightve given it more leniency. But they essentially killed their own market for the Mac Pro by giving both the same maxed out processor

Sure. Bought a mac studio instead

⁠​⁠​⁠@@yoaiouthe market for Mac Pros is those that need a Mac with PCIE slots, end of story. It has been frustratingly slow for this to happen.

Why did you choose words like “mere mortals” i think it feels out of place

@@yoaiou I think they released the pro knowing it would make the studio look even better. Either way, Apple wins.

Glad it was helpful

@@Thetechchap So the M2 Ultra can use both of it media engines simultaneously where the M1 Ultra could not?

​@@ssaini5028 yes, the M1 Ultra can only do that if one is saturated

Agreed. If I pay $9K, I expect 3X to 4X speed increase not just 50% and sometimes 100%.

My m1 ultra 16 with 32gb of ram handles everything great so far

… and how much more convenient it is to work from a coffee shop, or anywhere you want.

@@genxtechguy Excellent point. Spending $8-9K and still not having portability?! I rather split the money and get a fairly powerful box for the office and have some money left for a computer for the road. I almost bought the MacBook M1 Max with 64GB RAM but decided to keep my old MacBook Pro (circa 2014) for the rare outings and invest most of the budget into the most powerful machine I could afford for the office.

So they sent you a maxed out Mac Studio for free to review?

I have the M1 Studio Max with 1TB SSD and 64GB RAM. It is doing great with Photoshop and Davinci Resolve. If I had a chance to buy it again, I would go to 96GB or 128GB for RAM. Apple's SSD is too pricy. I built my own very fast NVMe SSD for half the cost.

@@boristahmasian9604 sounds epic machine

​@@boristahmasian9604how would you connect it ? Nb here. With mac usb3 ,ethernet and thunbolt 2 ports . Need speeder storage for music production with kontakt . Thanx

8:30 yeah I mean comparing to Intel AMD and Nvidia you get 50-100% improvements all the time comparing R7 7700X 8C16T single CCD with Ryzen 7950X 16C32T dual CCD…isn’t that the same comparison as M2 Max vs M2 Ultra?…

the trick is when they make it 13-15% faster for a 5% or almost same price replacing that m1 people gonna feel the value..it feels apple makes it intentionally slow

@@NightKreators That's right, apple makes it intentionally slow without any doubt. Because apple tries to sell more devices.

yep sadly I don't have one - but yes!

See artisright videos for a detailed comparison of different models.

Yeah me neither!

How about running animation programs on this? Does it run unreal/blender smoothly as well?

Ohh a 2023 mac beating a 2018 mac.. what a surprise

Good luck replicating the size of the thing. It’s impossible given the thermal headroom nvidia and Intel cpu… hell, even the ssd have massive heat sinks nowadays it’s comically stupid

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu PC has always been about repairability, modular, upgradable. I don't see mac studio excelling in this area.

⁠@@lalnuntluangachhakchhuak5767 That is legacy hardware and has only been that way due to the slow progress of Intel and Windows OEMs. There is no Devine rule saying that modular>soldered, just what people are used to having been brought up in such times. Making an easy assumption that ARM-based hardware is resilient and will last the length of the PC, then upgradable is the main complaint. That is always peculiar to me, and mainly resolves around consumers wanting to buy a base model and upgrade RAM themselves to save money (just use TB4 SSD if you need more storage). That does not work with ARM as it is a SOC with shared memory. So just buy what you need. Say in three years time your business has prospered and you need more RAM to make more money, just buy a new machine, as you will also upgrade the CPU, GPU and co-processors to maximise profits. The old machine can be sold on eBay or suchlike. Ergo: soldered does not mean e-waste and does not mean that you cannot upgrade, you just need to understand the basis of how ARM works so well. Also, businesses that run these Studio Macs will use far less wattage than an Intel machine doing the same workload, which over a year could save hundreds of dollars, especially in the UK with our electric prices.

@@andyH_England That's also why the used Mac market eventually consists of base model M1s, because they bought it with too little RAM, because that was more affordable. Can't put a new RAM stick in it, so have to replace the whole computer.

That 13900ks requires about 4x the power (250w) to reach a similar level of performance to the M2 Ultra (60w). A similar form factor is simply not possible. You could move to water cooling but the radiator alone would require more room than the Mac Studio. Regarding the comment about repairability Macs are significantly more reliable than any PC so this is a non-issue. The idea of modularity and upgradability is also a myth as most people will never do this even with the option. As your PC ages newer components will usually have compatibility issues with your existing system. If older compatible components are still on the market it doesn't make much sense to sink additional funds into something that's already obsolete. I love building PC's as much as the next person but this idea of upgrading components is from the 80's and obsolete. Tightly integrated SOC's provide performance, power efficiency, and increased reliability.

That’s the nightmare we live in 😅

I want to know the same thing. Also do you know if talking just about the timeline performance on Premiere pro will a mac beat a similar speced pc? (I don't care about the export timings but that's all I find on youtube)

@@PritishBharti From what I've seen from looking into this, it appears the single threaded speed is identical between the Max and the Ultra, but also that they beat a similar speced PC on this one metric (not on others), I think this is because of the specific encode/decode engines the Mac Studio has built in. So, for my purposes I have ended going with a speced out Max, 38Core GPU with the 96Gb RAM. But who knows, it's hard without testing with your specific use case. I made a mistake assuming the 2013 Mac Pro was going to solve my issues back in the day, it didn't really - I'll report back whether this one does (it arrives in 2 weeks).

@@PritishBharti Now that I have the Mac Studio Max, the timeline performance is great. There's still a short lag (a quarter of a second) if I for instance do a select forward on an hour of the timeline and shift it, but with the mixed formats I'm working with, the Mac Pro was taking 6-7 seconds to do this sort of operation, which is pretty terrible when you're trying to fine-cut. Unfortunately I don't have Ultra to do a comparison. But this has been a game-changer for me.

Are you loaded? 😅

If you have the pro display xdr your like RICH

No but im a working photographer & videographer. I ended up getting the 16in m3 max macbook pro.

I disagree. Faster than 24C and 3090?. Need to see that on screenvideo

@@Teluric2 speaking in terms of video encoding and decoding with H265, ProRes, and BRAW. 3D tasks 3090 wins all day of course.

Airplay 2 for 4K 60fps

I recently bought M2 Max studio 2023 , I used it for editing in Final Cut Pro and is working well for me. The cpu is definitely a good buy from my review. I added external memory too.

You’ll need the full 192gb ram

Go for the Mac Studio. Max is a faster chip. If you are going to start adding stuff the price difference will be small. For example Select the top m2 10 core, 19 core GPU 32GB of ram and 1TB of storage and 10GB ethernet you pay $2299. On the other hand a 12 core Mac Studio (8 high performance) 30 Core GPU, 32GB of ram 10gbit ethernet and 1TB of SSD cost you $2199. You can see it makes no sense, go for the studio. If you can pay the 64GB of ram it will help a lot with the longevity of the machine.

@@jaimeduncan6167 hey thanks for your reply I really appreciate and Value your advice!. Yea I was thinking the Mac Studio was probably the way to go, I did what you said but with the m2 Mac pro mini but added the the extra ram to 32gb which is £400 and the upgraded 19core gpu, 12core cpu and the cost came out at £2099 the exact cost of the m2 max studio base model. To be honest my absolute maximum budget is for the base model of the m2 max studio even then I’m stretching because the mini pro base model was my total in reach price. I’m not going above my means like I’m buying either outright.. but adding the extra storage and ram I’d really be go going beyond. I’m guessing the base storage will be one chip even on this unfortunately but I’m like it should be okay. Of course ideally like you said I’d/you’d get the 1tb. I’d wait for the M3 chips but that could be q1 2024 or q3, or even q1 2025 for another Mac Studio. But yea thanks thanks really great helpful advice that I will bank!.

@@dejavuking You can get away with the Mini Pro, but you would get more longevity out of the Studio. I got the Mini Pro to use in the mean time. It’s great and fully capable of what you are trying to do. But the Studio gives you more room to grow, and I will eventually upgrade to the Studio when I see a deal on the refurbished store. But the reality is the M2 Pro Mini base model is faster on single core than the original Studio Max. So it’s more than enough and I saved 700$ for now, and for me using FinalCut it’s perfect. But it’s the Ram that makes the Studio shine. It’s totally worth it, but you can definitely get by with the Mini pro for now if money is tight.

Nothing revolutionary lol

It's not Revolutionary lol.... HP's Z2 Mini's are €1000 and are the same speed as this, also the new 14th gen i7 chips are about as fast as a modern AMD Threadripper. I'm interested to see what M3 Ultra looks like though.