FINALLY got my hands on the *i9 2018 15" MacBook Pro* , so here's my *In-Depth Test, covering Video Editing, 3D Rendering, i9 Throttling, i9 vs i7 & more* ! Hope you guys enjoy this! Wasn't an easy one to make but I really hope this clears things up, about the 2018 i9 MacBook Pro, especially.
Would love to see a battery life comparison of this i9 using Fcpx vs the Dell XPS 9570 using premiere (with the 4k display). For portable video editing both appear to be great, the Dell more powerful but the Mac more optimised for its specific software. Great video!
It does reach 4.8 Ghz as advertised, that figure is only for one core performance and you can test it by running instruments app which allows you to run the whole system with one core by changing the preferences within Instruments. Try setting it to 2 cores ( in reality 1 core with 2 threads) and run the intel power gadget with cinebench, and I guarantee the clock speed will maintain 4.8 Ghz for one core performance.
You do a great coverage and explanation of the throttling issues on 2018 MacBook Pro. Well illustrated and explained. I really enjoy you coverage of Apple products. A goldmine for those considering a purchase.
This was most definitely one of the most informative evaluations you have made. I love the way you cooperate with all those other RU-vidrs. Big thumbs up. (Calling from Hamburg, Germany)
This is a really thorough video about the Macbook pro 2018 and i really think you deserve more props and recognition for doing such a great job ! Keep it up man
It looks like a good machine, I’m glad Apple has been fixing the issues that have come up, hopefully they continue to do so. As a casual user, though, I will stick to my MacBook Pro 2016 13 inch
I’m wondering if the differences in performance between the i7 and the i9 is because of the generation. What would be interesting to see would be the 2018 i7 vs the 2018 i9, because the jump is $300, almost 10% of the price. Would you get 10% more performance? Anyways great video.
Well made, clear explained test results! Great job with this small thumbnails in lower left corner :) Love your "peacefull" way while talking about tech :) cheers
Tbh is not forgivable that we the users have to be doing these tests. Apple is supposed to do all of this crap before launch, I mean they've had to know how the thermals would of behaved. I still have to see one of these laptops hit it's "advertised" clock speeds, false advertising at its finest lol
I love this Macbook. It allows me to edit RED footage or any 4K footage with out choking. My old 2017 laptop would constantly choke. I'd have to put it on half resolution. But it was still sticky when moving the mouse on the timeline. Now the 2018 is much better. Unfortunately until more time passes it'll take time for updates to actually use the power the computer has built into it.
Nice stuff Daniel. Frankly I don't need such a machine because I am not an artist or creator but I do so love your videos. You explain so well. You say it like it is without gimmicks. Glad to see you again. You're the only one I really trust with Apple product assessment. Keep up the good work!
Salut Daniel, my problem with the new MacBooks is the “charging” issue and i don’t understand why no one doesn’t discuss it. It’s clear that you need an TB dock to seriously use an MacBook at a desk with external storage, display and peripherals. All the good docks continously charge the battery. Also the eGPU enclosures and TB or USB-C displays. As a long time user of MacBooks i have changed enough batteries to know it is bad to work 8-10h/day continuously charging and not discharging the battery. Solutions exist, but compromising maximum performance with lesser TB 2 or cheap USB-C docks and forget retina (LG Ultrafine 5K display is the last 27’ 5K display on the market, all the others being discontinued). And newcomers deserve to be made aware about this issue.
Well done vid! Thnx! Good that you show actual percentage improvements near the end, although at some moments you just show improvement in seconds and minutes. Just make it percentages everywhere or even better mention both!
Very good review .. good job ! The main question remains for Jose who are looking to purchase a 2018 MAC . Would you get the i7 2.2 /2.6? Or the i9? From what I’ve seen you are better off with the 2.6 as even with throttling you can get stable frequencies of around 3.1/3.2 ghz exporting . So is the extra $$ worth getting the i9 compared to 2018 i7 models? I don’t think so especially with that case , you’ll eventually kill that i9 chipset as time goes on. Let me know what you think zonetech.
Another cracking video. Torn between a 13” and 15” at the moment - and plans to review the i7 2018 hexacore MacBook Pro? Specifically the 2.6ghz model.... perhaps a comparison between the 13” & 15”?
The i9 looks like an incredibly bad buy; can you try something? I use a Rain Designs iLap stand for my current macbook pro and I believe it lowers the temperature somewhat (I find the fans go on much less). Do you have a "heatsink stand" to try the i9 on? Also have you tried manually turning up the fans to max while doing the worst case tests? Just wondering if we know we're rendering etc if we temporarily maxed out the fans. Wonder if this is going to lead to a 3rd party "cooling tray" solution lol
Nice video, thank you for your explanations, however i wanted to let you know that the link (Macbook Pro) in your described redirects to the "old" Macbook Pros (quad-core models). Keep your great work up, really interesting to see that you are modeling your 3d-renerings by your own and see some real figures.
Great video, but your percentages were quite misleading. When you said "32% improvement", that 32% was calculated by (difference in times)/(after update time). To be more accurate, it should have been (difference in times)/(before update time) to give a result of a 16% improvement. I only checked this statistic, but I believe you made this mistake with all of your calculations.
Firstly, i think that there wasn't much improvement before and after the update with FCPX because FCPX is optimized anyway for the Mac, but it's good to see that the clock frequency and temperature is more stable after the update! I personally have a Mac Pro 2013, which i bought a year ago when Apple updated the pricing on those machines. For what i do, it's a really good machine, most of the time i use FCPX and Logic Pro X. I do use Photoshop and Dreamweaver for graphic (web) design and it all runs more then fine. However, i did expect a faster machine when it comes to web browsing, it really can be slow at some times. But because this machine is more of a work machine (for movie/music production), i'm okay with this. I do hope that the Mac Pro that will come out in 2019 will be modular enough in the way that we can at least change: GPU/SSD/RAM. CPU would be nice but, well, uhm, it's Apple 😜 One can hate over Apple i do not care personally, i like both Windows and Apple for their own reasons. Great video!
Good video. I'm uncertain why your conclusion talks about lower temperatures, since temps appear to be 4-8C higher after the update, although some of the pkg temps were lower.
My favorite youtoube guy was made again a great video. Thx daniel for it again. 👍👍👍. Do u know how expensive your over alll macbook pro now is? With all the software u have on it?
I think Adobe needs to have a big update to address the issues for Apple new MacPro Books. Has anyone emailed them letting them know that their products are not up to par to any Apple equipment. Since we all rent their software at lease they can update their software to run more efficiently on a Mac or PC platform
It wasn’t a hardware issue. It wasn’t even hitting base clock speed before. Not it easily hits base clock speeds and turbos up from there. It was a glitch in the system software, which was patched on not just the i9, but on all of the new 2018 model MacBooks.
what about having boot camp and running native windows and adobe. Would the performance be better with adobe test or you do really need a native windows laptop? Nice work for the testing. It is what I call 'in depth'
Fun fact about that - on the same hardware, Premiere runs WORSE on Windows. It is better optimised for macOS in general, which applies to many other programs as well. macOS is a lighter OS. But Premiere still needs a ton more optimisation.
i returned my laptop before the patch came out. and i complained to apple store and they said they were not aware of any overheating, and once i left the store within 2 hours i started seeing the youtube videos and BuzzFeed news articles on Apples overheating statement and scandal as well as the patch. So i went back to the store and told them about it, and then thats when they admitted but they said that its all fixed and i told them its not true. its not fixed because even without editing video and ONLY playing video on youtube on chrome browser, the bottom of the chassy was getting absurdly hot in comparison to 2015 i7 16gb ram 512gb SSD was significantly less hotter.
Another great video! Thanks for touching down on CAD - you're definitely the first person to open that topic. Knowing you have an 13" MBP I would appreciate if you can find some time to run Fusion 360 and share your thoughts with us. I am using an elderly 2013 13" MBPR with i7 running at 3.0GHz and I am really considering an i7 2018 13" MPB as upgrade - hoping the eGPU would also be supported by Autodesk team. Thanks
I love the mac OS, but their laptop line is not that well designed, specially for the new and more powerful chips, since it can't dissipate the heat properly. That being said, I still love their operating system and I'm moving more towards their iMac line-up now while keeping in check my 2012 macbook pro
92C...I can't wait to see how high it will get and the throttling will reach after a year or two when the thermal paste becomes dust and the user can't replace the paste. Apple and others who release computers like this should be ashamed of themselves.
Great work, much appreciated. Makes me still appreciate my aging (but maxed out with memory, PCI-based SSDs, and dual multicore processors) "cheese grater" Xenon Mac Pros for rendering (which is my business.) But I've been under a lot of pressure over the years to get a portable machine also with some of my clients, so I can work in their space sometimes, but I always suspected the Geekbench results did not reflect the thermal throttling portable macs. Perhaps you could post the project file you used for the 3d test somewhere for us to try on our own hardware??
I’ve gained so much weight watching your videos with all these snacks. Next video can you say “grab a piece of fruit” instead of snacks or popcorn just for laughs.
Great detail video. But bootcamp is a thing in macs. i like to see how it perform under windows using bootcamp. Specially Adobe premier performance and thermal issues.
