MacOS Big Sur: Flawed Design?

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This is an overview of "MacOS Big Sur" BETA 1.
Things will shift a bit through beta iterations, but these are my thoughts on the overall design principles and "language" put forward with the new version of MacOS.
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@JanneWolterbeek 4 года назад

Apple on Fiverr: "Hi, we need a battery icon, budget is $10, thx!"

@jamauai 4 года назад

Hahahaha

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

😂😂

@kingsamvisuals 4 года назад

Underrated comment

@HilmiZul 4 года назад

🤣 i think this what's happen

@j.phoenix 4 года назад

What a coincidence to see you here. I know you from the Tesla community.

@jamauai 4 года назад

Design team: How heavy should we make the shadows? Apple: Yes.

@spaceowl5957 4 года назад

More like YEeNoeEs

@darkspeed62 4 года назад

That sounds like a Mark Zuckerburg response.

@rudra7615 4 года назад

Somewhere Jony Ive is laughing.

@XMattingly 4 года назад

Rudra Somewhere, Jony Ive is facepalming 🤦‍♂️

@shiv5172 4 года назад

I feel like Corona hit the designers cause they experienced a "loss of taste" I'll show myself the way out

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

Jesus 😂

@ViaxCo 4 года назад

Don't leave me! Don't leave me!

@rudra7615 4 года назад

Savage! Truth hurts..

@shiv5172 4 года назад

@@ViaxCo What

@javianjohnson8746 4 года назад

10/10 comment

@snazzy 4 года назад

Great video, dude. Thanks for the shout. Totally agree on the contrast issues. The icons are... well... they are what they are but at least they're readable-unlike the menus.

@SploshBadger 4 года назад

When he says "In summation" and there's still 6 minutes left, absolute king shit

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

Lmao. I can’t stop talking. 😂

@EMKWANREVIEWS 4 года назад

That battery icon is just... 🤮

@smoothiethepotato 3 года назад

About the icon your right. We'll I saw in a video of macOS big Sur someone in the comments section said: The Battery icon looks like a dead 2009 android phone.

@TylerHansenVideo 4 года назад

That QuickTime icon is...wow

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

Uh yup 😂

@Esignam32713 4 года назад

I’m really struggling to understand why they would go backwards in terms of icon design. The gradients make everything look outdated, and being surrounded by cleaner icons makes them stick out even more. Why would they do that?

@spicytaco4214 4 года назад

0:07 My cat after eating some medicine.

@benjaminwhite2795 4 года назад

I personally though the re-design was lazy, they took IOS design and implemented as much as they could with Mac OS, I don't like it.. Apple's answer to this is that "you'll get use to it"... lazy....

@--2 4 года назад

Lazy? of course they took things from iOS, just to make it uniform! So MacOS and all the other OS’s are uniform. And just relax this is the FIRST beta. some icons are just an placeholder that is going to be fixed later on!

@DarcersTech 4 года назад

I like most of the UI. The transparency and rounded corners look really good IMO. But some of the icons really stick out. Forget that they are ugly, they just don't go with the rest of the design.

@Seanonyoutube 4 года назад

Keychain ehem QuickTime ehem ehem

@souperman6196 4 года назад

Window's new design language (fluent design) and Google's design language (Material) demonstrate neumorphism perfectly. Flat iconography with realistic shadows and lighting. Apple's iOS design also demonstrates neumorphism beautifully. What the hell happened here.

@angel2901 4 года назад

Windows is a design mess.

@diyanko_bhowmik 4 года назад

Microsoft is working their ass off for the design. Yeah, the implementation is not smooth but the quality exceeds Apple, imo. At least as of now.

@kamilstudios 4 года назад

I think the Windows design is very messy. Different icon design style everywhere, in start menu, in windows sidebar, toolbar, etc for example.

@anupkhadka5731 4 года назад

@@kamilstudios see new insider build. They completely changed windows design.

@matteialexxandru 4 года назад

I like skeuomorphic design. Flat is shit

@Gosu9765 4 года назад

Exactly my thoughts. I expected something like this when Jony Ive left. After seeing how dark mode was implemented on iOS/iPadOS (complete blackness instead of shades of gray, as in macOS) i knew they went into direction of what people think they want, instead of uncompromised design (and that's weird, because that complete black looks awful in most places - run 2 dark apps, side by side on iPad. They change to light grey and look so much better). If you think about it, this is just going back in time. Widgets, return of 3d. I like overall flatter shell and getting rid of all those gradients from headers, but there is so much wrong there...

@GauraangArora 4 года назад

Best use of claps since ‘We Will Rock You’

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

😂

@DundeeZhang 4 года назад

lol

@Speedbird447 4 года назад

Shitt I cracked up when he couldn’t find the 4k option for Yt😂

@MrBlackout97 4 года назад

It’s only available rn for HDR videos. So lame right 😌

@_justcarlson 4 года назад

Yeah RU-vid only encodes HDR videos in AV1

@willcollins5121 4 года назад

For an update that steals from iOS, they really managed to miss out all of the great parts of iOS design

@emptyunicorn384 4 года назад

Idk why they made a huge update like this I really liked the way Mac os looked before the update, it was a great competitor to Windows but now it looks like iPad os on a laptop or monitor

@CubeartAnimations 4 года назад

Everyone: simple=good Apple: yes but G R A D I E N T

@kaleidoscopeon 4 года назад

I feel like Apple designer are just trolling. They need something that makes others talk about their products as this gives them free marketing. Then they will fix it in future updates.

@spencerrr9878 4 года назад

Well the guy who designed this is also the guy who designed iOS 7, an OS version whos overall design and function was quickly changed within the next update 😂😂

@travyskande 4 года назад

All press is good press

@puddingmango 4 года назад

@@spencerrr9878 But at least iOS 7 was a consistent and uncompromised design, and although people sort of hated the super flat/shadowless design, future versions of iOS only slowly added depth and shadow back over the years.

@spencerrr9878 4 года назад

@@puddingmango well yeah, I dont mind macOS Big Sur (besides that damn battery icon) but ik a lot of people HATE Its design so they at least have hope it will change.

@puddingmango 4 года назад

Spencerrr ah I see your point

@Speedbird447 4 года назад

I love how you pointed the visibility/translation to smaller icons. Def a well vetted review

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

#skeuomorphismisoverparty

@AustinGarner 4 года назад

Getting the popcorn because I know this is gonna be a good one🍿

@dombrownuk 4 года назад

I feel sorry for the person who designed that battery icon and thought they did a good job...

@buzinaocara 4 года назад

that person does not deserve pitty.

@Gabifuertes 4 года назад

Are you really talking about usability on an OS that doesn’t give you a calendar when you click on the time? Big Sur removed the only thing I used the “Notification Center” for: the calculator. Come on. UI/UX isn’t even close to iOS. It’s just the result of the portion of the sales iPhones vs Macs cover.

@Noodles.FreeUkraine 4 года назад

YAY, been crying ever since skeuomorphism left the building. Good thing everything does come back eventually. 👍

@techspace1797 4 года назад

As a massive Apple fan I agree with everything you say. It feels like a windows update, like they’ve spray painted the surface and not actually focussed on uniformity and consistency

@slimreaper-sk 4 года назад

this video was awesome, the editing and humour was on point.

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

🙏🙏

@alxisl 4 года назад

That battery icon is giving me anxiety! Also, the messages & facetime ones look very huawei

@dcaudwell 4 года назад

I agree with you - what a mess of a design! It's like someone walking into the kitchen blindfolded, grabbing 10 random ingredients out of the fridge, throwing them into the pot and saying "Dad daaaaa! Dinner!" A "Dog's Dinner", more like! By the way, just to critique your critique - you talk about redundancy but preface your thoughts by offering us an "initial first look". Redundancy! You can't have a second first look! First is initial! I know it's a thing people say on RU-vid but....redundancy!

@siloPIRATE 4 года назад

If touch is used as control centre, what happens with MacBooks that don’t have a Touch Bar?

@felix_icatap 4 года назад

They still have the actual control keys on the keyboard 🤔

@JanHiebert 4 года назад

How did I not find your channel earlier? Your content looks dope. Keep up the good quality content!

@aathifmahir 4 года назад

Wow, man I really like your style of making the video. I feel lots of natural perspective in your video

@egoriakovlev2752 4 года назад

I can't agree more with everything you said in the video. I just can't understand what happened... sounds like bureaucracy ate everyone's brains at Apple and the designs just went through, nobody cared to check them out.

@kevincruz7790 4 года назад

The 4K option won’t show up if your display can’t play 4K... maybe try hooking it up to a 4K monitor to see if it shows up?

@nikhilmwarrier7948 4 года назад

"Skneuomorphism". That's it. LOL

@jaiskreno 4 года назад

exactly… especially control center, JANKY

@CrackerJoe1231 4 года назад

The safari background got me like 🤦🏻‍♂️ i mean sure, if you want that great. But I’d rather have actually useful features implemented, like perhaps sidecar being improved. Idk, I feel like there’s a multitude of more useful features that could be added. This kind of apple bullshit drives me insane

@H3Freak65 4 года назад

I saw this new design as the first post-Ive steps. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one with this thought :)

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

Yeahhhh I miss Jony boi

@H3Freak65 4 года назад

@@BrandonHavard His narration will never again be matched :(

@rudra7615 4 года назад

💡 You should redesign a window and show what it could look like. Would be interesting.

@adam03957 4 года назад

So I think a simple way to summarise my feelings, Apple you’ve turned my Mac into an iPad, and I’ve tried using iPad and iPad apps to replace my laptop/desktop and I don’t care for it, touch/mouse are very different inputs and they don’t work well together

@lukashagen4403 4 года назад

Privacy is sadly by so many people underrated: like „nice to have, sure, but is it going to improve the usability of the UI?“ 😅 it‘s an aim to protect our identity beeing a product!

@EddyGraphic 4 года назад

You can indeed play 4k videos in safari but only HDR content which is odd.

@User2100 4 года назад

I miss mavericks it was the last one with the skeuformsim design and I loved it.

@Valkalium 4 года назад

What the hell were they thinking? Probably after Jony Ive quit, the rest of the design team just went crazy and did whatever they wanted out of rebellion. Fellas, you shit the bed on this one.

@ercc923 4 года назад

Please make a video just about Iconography.

@lil_shiba5267 4 года назад

Hell yeahh 😂

@ShekharKumar-jh3uc 3 года назад

The messaging and video call icon are fantastic

@buzinaocara 4 года назад

Your rant is 100% warranted. And I mean 100% where the "100%" text is hovering over a three dimensional cylindrical version of a flat iconographic representation of a batery with a semi-cilinder on it's side that you cant't really tell if it is really meant to look like it sticks up higher than the volumetric batery icon's outer hairline or if it's just a failure in conveying that shape's volume, which seems like not even the designer knew exactly where exactly anything over there stands.

@whytushar 4 года назад

Solid guy with a solid video. I just love the way you make videos. 🌊

@spoompls42069 4 года назад

We're all gonna get used to this eventually. This was the exact same reaction when iOS 7 ditched the skeuomorphic 3D icons for flat, colorful icons. And we all got used to that. Same thing applies to OS X Yosemite.

@buzinaocara 4 года назад

Nah. iOS 7 was almost universally embraced and welcomed by most designers. Most naysayers were laymen. This is completely different.

@User2100 4 года назад

Yep i didnt like io7 design either when it came out but eventually got use to it to me ios6 looked a lot nice.

@siimlaasnurm 4 года назад

iOS 7 was very confusing when it came out but iOS design and usability is so much better now. Same thing could happen to macOS in a few years. Also, iOS 14 had new icons and widgets in keynote but they aren't in iOS 14 beta yet.

@Sam3x5 4 года назад

6:47 Livingbobby always husslin😂😂

@NiCo-87 4 года назад

People in 2013: "iOs 7 design sucks. These icons are poorly designed" Same people in 2020: "Big Sur's design sucks. We want a design more like iOs 7" Me: 🤷🏻‍♂️

@vianvalentine 4 года назад

haha true, I don't know it's look always wrong for everyone, but I think apple do a great middle ground by using neumorphism, just implement it in bit wrong way.

@arilohr5641 4 года назад

what’s the point of putting a square border around every icon? safari, quicktime, settings.......? why? it’s the absolute worst and it makes it so much harder to differentiate between the icons. it’s also just ugly and messes with the balance

@javianjohnson8746 4 года назад

6:26 "one of Apple's pride-and-joy icons" lol too funny. I LOVE your visual example at 10:09 too lol I HAVE to sub now

@davidbatbold 4 года назад

That intro is clean, nice job

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

🙏🙏

@carloslemare6060 4 года назад

Wow, the best Big Sur design evaluation. Love you man!

@louwaars 4 года назад

Does it have the same iOS control panel crap that turning off bluetooth doesnt really turn off bluetooth

@everythingtheone6110 4 года назад

why is no one talking about the fact that this can be viewed in 5k like what

@Clodd1 4 года назад

Apple should see this video.

@mcmh9523 4 года назад

Jony Ive has long left Apple. And Big Sur is a prime example that shows us how far Apple can ruin its software design without him.

@keegzwhittal 4 года назад

Can they please bring Jony Ive back

@VMYeahVN 4 года назад

I don't hate it. I like the idea of it. I agree with most of what you pointed out. All of it can be fixed and made to be consistent if they hear enough criticism and choose to adjust. We can only hope.

@usman9582873245 4 года назад

Not upgrading to Big Sur! Let them fix this shit.

@Joe1339 4 года назад

Why do we have a slider for brightness? I have a Touch Bar

@tamim.a 4 года назад

i loved this vidéo the passion for design 🥺

@kinfilmdiaries 4 года назад

The thing with watching 4K video natively in RU-vid is probably going to be an update. It's happening, just not in beta one apparently. :)

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

Fair enough. I’ll be counting on it. It’s all I want. Just gimme that 4K pls

@marckyokay 4 года назад

Just a thought... this weird control center... on Macs with a Touchbar, can't they just after clicking on it make the control center appear in the Touchbar? They could make every option appear in the row... and the sliders would make sense suddenly. What's in there now seems a substitute for Macs without Touchbar. EDIT: OOOPS you mention that too 😂

@cesssuyat8428 4 года назад

Didnt know I can learn some design principles by watching your videos. Love you!

@RowanHumphreys 4 года назад

This is his W̶o̶r̶s̶t̶ best video yet

@maikwei8402 4 года назад

Besides the battery icon, i really like the new design

@mvmns 4 года назад

One more fun fact : Apple will never change touch bar strip icons and... Now you can think about it.. Why keyboard button look different?

@AssafChriqui 4 года назад

I'm applauding you, finally someone speaks truth! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@amirg9716 4 года назад

Face Time and iMessage icons actually look amazing. Finally some 3D effect

@omerlatifi5984 4 года назад

Yeah... It's evolving just backwards!😜😂

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

Not wrong

@Rohan-cr5np 4 года назад

Yo does Brandon seem a lil more jacked to you guys??

@IAmAPhan 4 года назад

His arms got a nice work out, after all the table pounding they were doing during the Keynote.

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

Lmao. I’ll take it. 😄

@THEUnboxing 4 года назад

I dig the basic setup in this video, just the Mac and good info!

@damien2198 4 года назад

For sure It will be a touch screen next year (I quite like the concept that is floating around of an Iphone 13 that can run MacOs and be plugged in a Laptop frame)

@djross95 4 года назад

"It looks like Android Gingerbread"... Ouch!!

@gywghhb 4 года назад

Worse thing is, he's RIGHT! The whole drop shadow and texture feels like Android design from 2010s. Not that they are the worst, but Apple can do better.

@thelambsauce2015 4 года назад

10:26 when my teacher finally finds out that I have zoned out during class

@VinhDang 4 года назад

Notifications icon looks like it could be from Windows XP 😂

@BrandonHavard 4 года назад

You’re not wrong 😂

@DJAJ101 4 года назад

Design for software hasn't been front and center since Steve passed away. He seemed to be the only one with the eye for every detail in design that no one has stepped up to the plate on since. iOS 7 was the first stumble and hasn't been consistent since iOS 6. Now the Mac will follow in iOS 7's footsteps. IMO.

@janottlinger 3 года назад

Big Sur looks so great, surely subjective, but it’s the best looking macOS in my opinion and I just think they did a great job. Especially those animations.

@frontlinebreakthrough5723 4 года назад

i look forward to his follow up video, and if the final version changes in any way

@ammralhalabi7363 4 года назад

This is windows 8 by Apple, I think they might be going to unify OSs with the usage of ARM chips in the near future, same for example for the new thermal design of new macbook air, I am so excited and I think this is so not apple but if they made it right I think it could be an amazing future experience.

@3dpixel583 4 года назад

The Mouse option in System Preference is gone?

@marco.dallago 4 года назад

I completely agree with you. It's is not functional and simply beatiful at the same time. That's a shame. The key power to Dieter's Rams design, embraced later by Ive, was to create something very clear to interact with in such a clear and simply way to just looks beatiful. Those overall design seems leading to a strange direction. I mean, maybe simply use the same language to iOs and macOS. I usually have concerne about neumoprhism, since those examples you brought in lack on relations between elements, hierarchy, which lead to confusion. Generally speaking this looks like an "in progress" work, that needs to be fine tuned following some main principles.

@SigmaXcelsior 4 года назад

Newmorphism. Never heard the term before. Thanks!

@YattirSmith 4 года назад

looking at more and more of BIG SUR it looks like we will get a touch screen mac at some point

@aherprasad 4 года назад

Appla innovated the 3rd Axis of dimension this year. *Revolutionary*

@HiFiInsider 4 года назад

I will not update to macOS 11 if this ugly AF design stays. the dock icons look like a child drew it. The control center is stupid bc there’s a TouchBar already.

@OfficialKonSite 4 года назад

You made clear, and valid points. I hope Apple takes heed, and makes changes. They sometimes forget how to implement design effectively. I like Apple, but I’m not sure they have the same designers like they did. And yes, Jony Ive left.

@wiandryadiwasistio2062 4 года назад

they did my boys dictionary, quicktime, and font book dirty

@Zhiar 4 года назад

I’m glad I bought my Mac on Catalina. Never updating 😷

@maxtaylor3531 4 года назад

4k on ios and tvos (pending youtube updating their apps) but not macos safari yet

@mvmns 4 года назад

Fun fact : Apple will never gonna change these icons whatever we do or say, afterall we'll have to be used to it and time by time they slowly update them